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***Kyle Turley Agrees To Terms In KC*** (1 Viewer)

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OT Turley Agrees To Terms

Source: KCChiefs.com

Original Article: http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/2006/06/11/ch...t_kyle_turley2/

Summary: Kansas City Chiefs President Carl Peterson announced on Sunday that the club has agreed in principle on a two-year contract with T Kyle Turley. As per Chiefs policy, no other terms of the agreement were made available. “We are very pleased to acquire the services of a player of Kyle Turley’s experience and stature,” Peterson said. “We were very impressed with his recent workout for us and are confident he is ready to resume his NFL career. He will compete at the right tackle position for us and we believe he has the ability to perform at a high level.” The contract has yet to be signed but the Chiefs brass expects Turley to arrive at the Chiefs complex on Monday to complete a physical, and sign the contract.

 
Well that can't hurt anything there. If his head's on straight he can be very effective.
Definite mean streak there.I take it he's bulked up some? Last I heard he was going to play TE since he didn't have his RT size anymore.

Guess he's hit a few all you can eat buffets.

 
Well that can't hurt anything there. If his head's on straight he can be very effective.
Definite mean streak there.I take it he's bulked up some? Last I heard he was going to play TE since he didn't have his RT size anymore.

Guess he's hit a few all you can eat buffets.
And reportedly, he looked good too. You gotta like having an OLineman as athletic as a TE.
 
Well that can't hurt anything there. If his head's on straight he can be very effective.
Definite mean streak there.I take it he's bulked up some? Last I heard he was going to play TE since he didn't have his RT size anymore.

Guess he's hit a few all you can eat buffets.
And reportedly, he looked good too. You gotta like having an OLineman as athletic as a TE.
Are you thinking the "Tackle Eligable" play?
 
As long as they didn't pay him a bundle of guaranteed money, this is a pretty sound signing by the Chiefs. He'll provide much needed competition at the right tackle position.

 
Well that can't hurt anything there. If his head's on straight he can be very effective.
Definite mean streak there.I take it he's bulked up some? Last I heard he was going to play TE since he didn't have his RT size anymore.

Guess he's hit a few all you can eat buffets.
And reportedly, he looked good too. You gotta like having an OLineman as athletic as a TE.
Hes reportedly still in the 255-265 range. Hes got aways to go.
 
good signing by the chiefs. i didn't see carl peterson being the gm to give him an opportunity though

 
I think the really important aspect of this though is the fact that he has played left tackle for 19 games in his career. He would be a reliable backup for Willie Roaf and has played with Willie also in the past. Look at what happened last year when BIG Willie was absent.

We still need to get Michael Bennet and TY Law:)

 
Fantastic signing! Kyle can come in and play either RT or LT and provide depth and insurance for a great line. KC needs to keep the O-Lineman coming though to insure LJ a great fantasy career and a smooth transition to a new QB. A #1 WR wouldn't hurt either. Although Kennison has been underrated money for quite some time.

 
I don't see why people are excited about this. If NFL teams thought he could play Tackle, why was he forced to try out for the Dolphins at TE? He looked pretty small lately too...someone said 255-265...which sounds about right. The guy was also basically run off from his last two teams because of attitude issues and hasn't played in over a year because of back issues. If this is a "we have nothing to lose" signing, then fine; but if they are relying on him to compete as a starter or as a key back-up then I have to wonder why no NFL team thought he was worthy of a shot at tackle up until this point.

 
I don't see why people are excited about this. If NFL teams thought he could play Tackle, why was he forced to try out for the Dolphins at TE? He looked pretty small lately too...someone said 255-265...which sounds about right. The guy was also basically run off from his last two teams because of attitude issues and hasn't played in over a year because of back issues. If this is a "we have nothing to lose" signing, then fine; but if they are relying on him to compete as a starter or as a key back-up then I have to wonder why no NFL team thought he was worthy of a shot at tackle up until this point.
He was not forced to try out at TE. He wanted to try out as a blocking TE so he could play at a lower weight and try to keep the strain off his back. His is being "forced" by KC to play T. I don't think this is much of a signing as I do not think his back will hold up and ultimately be cut before the season starts.
 
I don't see why people are excited about this. If NFL teams thought he could play Tackle, why was he forced to try out for the Dolphins at TE? He looked pretty small lately too...someone said 255-265...which sounds about right. The guy was also basically run off from his last two teams because of attitude issues and hasn't played in over a year because of back issues. If this is a "we have nothing to lose" signing, then fine; but if they are relying on him to compete as a starter or as a key back-up then I have to wonder why no NFL team thought he was worthy of a shot at tackle up until this point.
Ever heard of Brian Waters before he was a Chief? Nope. Unless you went to North TX I bet you didnt know who he was. Now he is a top3-5 OG in the NFL. And Waters was signed as a TE I believe, was sent to NFLEL, converted to G, and took off.Casey Weigmann was an unheralded FA, Dante Hall was a 3rd string RB at one time, Priest Holmes was a FA that no one wanted after the 2000 season.......

Catching the drift here, KC finds diamonds in the rough. They have to becuase they bomb 50 percent of their draft picks! :D

 
I don't see why people are excited about this.  If NFL teams thought he could play Tackle, why was he forced to try out for the Dolphins at TE?  He looked pretty small lately too...someone said 255-265...which sounds about right.  The guy was also basically run off from his last two teams because of attitude issues and hasn't played in over a year because of back issues.  If this is a "we have nothing to lose" signing, then fine; but if they are relying on him to compete as a starter or as a key back-up then I have to wonder why no NFL team thought he was worthy of a shot at tackle up until this point.
Ever heard of Brian Waters before he was a Chief? Nope. Unless you went to North TX I bet you didnt know who he was. Now he is a top3-5 OG in the NFL. And Waters was signed as a TE I believe, was sent to NFLEL, converted to G, and took off.Casey Weigmann was an unheralded FA, Dante Hall was a 3rd string RB at one time, Priest Holmes was a FA that no one wanted after the 2000 season.......

Catching the drift here, KC finds diamonds in the rough. They have to becuase they bomb 50 percent of their draft picks! :D
especially WRs ...... Snoop Minnis anyone?
 
I don't see why people are excited about this. If NFL teams thought he could play Tackle, why was he forced to try out for the Dolphins at TE? He looked pretty small lately too...someone said 255-265...which sounds about right. The guy was also basically run off from his last two teams because of attitude issues and hasn't played in over a year because of back issues. If this is a "we have nothing to lose" signing, then fine; but if they are relying on him to compete as a starter or as a key back-up then I have to wonder why no NFL team thought he was worthy of a shot at tackle up until this point.
Ever heard of Brian Waters before he was a Chief? Nope. Unless you went to North TX I bet you didnt know who he was. Now he is a top3-5 OG in the NFL. And Waters was signed as a TE I believe, was sent to NFLEL, converted to G, and took off.Casey Weigmann was an unheralded FA, Dante Hall was a 3rd string RB at one time, Priest Holmes was a FA that no one wanted after the 2000 season.......

Catching the drift here, KC finds diamonds in the rough. They have to becuase they bomb 50 percent of their draft picks! :D
Totally different here, and you know it.Turley is a known commodity with back issues. Not some diamond in the rough. He'lll be lucky to make the squad.

 
I don't see why people are excited about this.  If NFL teams thought he could play Tackle, why was he forced to try out for the Dolphins at TE?  He looked pretty small lately too...someone said 255-265...which sounds about right.  The guy was also basically run off from his last two teams because of attitude issues and hasn't played in over a year because of back issues.  If this is a "we have nothing to lose" signing, then fine; but if they are relying on him to compete as a starter or as a key back-up then I have to wonder why no NFL team thought he was worthy of a shot at tackle up until this point.
Ever heard of Brian Waters before he was a Chief? Nope. Unless you went to North TX I bet you didnt know who he was. Now he is a top3-5 OG in the NFL. And Waters was signed as a TE I believe, was sent to NFLEL, converted to G, and took off.Casey Weigmann was an unheralded FA, Dante Hall was a 3rd string RB at one time, Priest Holmes was a FA that no one wanted after the 2000 season.......

Catching the drift here, KC finds diamonds in the rough. They have to becuase they bomb 50 percent of their draft picks! :D
Every team has FA wins and losses and you are going back 5+ years to come up with this list. What about Joe Horn? The team has needed a good WR for years and they let him get away. With respect to Waters, I am sure he gained a ton of weight. Turley's problem has been back issues and the fact that the can't take the weight anymore...now he has to add weight and take the pounding of an NFL tackle?Turley doesn't have un-discovered talent. He is a known quantity--including the problems that an injured back will cause an NFL lineman.

 
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Well that can't hurt anything there. If his head's on straight he can be very effective.
Definite mean streak there.I take it he's bulked up some? Last I heard he was going to play TE since he didn't have his RT size anymore.

Guess he's hit a few all you can eat buffets.
no, last i heard he lost a lot of weight and he needs to bulk up again to play all 16 games
 
I don't see why people are excited about this.  If NFL teams thought he could play Tackle, why was he forced to try out for the Dolphins at TE?  He looked pretty small lately too...someone said 255-265...which sounds about right.  The guy was also basically run off from his last two teams because of attitude issues and hasn't played in over a year because of back issues.  If this is a "we have nothing to lose" signing, then fine; but if they are relying on him to compete as a starter or as a key back-up then I have to wonder why no NFL team thought he was worthy of a shot at tackle up until this point.
Ever heard of Brian Waters before he was a Chief? Nope. Unless you went to North TX I bet you didnt know who he was. Now he is a top3-5 OG in the NFL. And Waters was signed as a TE I believe, was sent to NFLEL, converted to G, and took off.Casey Weigmann was an unheralded FA, Dante Hall was a 3rd string RB at one time, Priest Holmes was a FA that no one wanted after the 2000 season.......

Catching the drift here, KC finds diamonds in the rough. They have to becuase they bomb 50 percent of their draft picks! :D
Every team has FA wins and losses and you are going back 5+ years to come up with this list. What about Joe Horn? The team has needed a good WR for years and they let him get away. With respect to Waters, I am sure he gained a ton of weight. Turley's problem has been back issues and the fact that the can't take the weight anymore...now he has to add weight and take the pounding of an NFL tackle?Turley doesn't have un-discovered talent. He is a known quantity--including the problems that an injured back will cause an NFL lineman.
He won't have to anchor the line as there is a ton of veteran talent. The Chief's certainly don't need a savior or anything. He has the experience to complement that line. He doesn't have to take 60 snaps a game and any time you can add a little meannasty to your O-line its got to be a good thing. You have valid points but its a little too early to completely write him off.

 
I don't see why people are excited about this.  If NFL teams thought he could play Tackle, why was he forced to try out for the Dolphins at TE?  He looked pretty small lately too...someone said 255-265...which sounds about right.  The guy was also basically run off from his last two teams because of attitude issues and hasn't played in over a year because of back issues.  If this is a "we have nothing to lose" signing, then fine; but if they are relying on him to compete as a starter or as a key back-up then I have to wonder why no NFL team thought he was worthy of a shot at tackle up until this point.
Ever heard of Brian Waters before he was a Chief? Nope. Unless you went to North TX I bet you didnt know who he was. Now he is a top3-5 OG in the NFL. And Waters was signed as a TE I believe, was sent to NFLEL, converted to G, and took off.Casey Weigmann was an unheralded FA, Dante Hall was a 3rd string RB at one time, Priest Holmes was a FA that no one wanted after the 2000 season.......

Catching the drift here, KC finds diamonds in the rough. They have to becuase they bomb 50 percent of their draft picks! :D
Every team has FA wins and losses and you are going back 5+ years to come up with this list. What about Joe Horn? The team has needed a good WR for years and they let him get away. With respect to Waters, I am sure he gained a ton of weight. Turley's problem has been back issues and the fact that the can't take the weight anymore...now he has to add weight and take the pounding of an NFL tackle?Turley doesn't have un-discovered talent. He is a known quantity--including the problems that an injured back will cause an NFL lineman.
He won't have to anchor the line as there is a ton of veteran talent. The Chief's certainly don't need a savior or anything. He has the experience to complement that line. He doesn't have to take 60 snaps a game and any time you can add a little meannasty to your O-line its got to be a good thing. You have valid points but its a little too early to completely write him off.
Fair enough, but the people in this thread were calling him the starter at RT and as Roaf's back-up at LT. That's a big leap for a guy that hasn't played in a couple of years and was trying out at TE just a few weeks ago.
 
I would be thrilled to have the man as the back up for OLD Willie. Someone mentioned the Joe Horn debate. Do you remember the last year Schotenheimer coached the Chiefs? Horn took the fallout along with Vanover, Bam Morris etc. Do we miss Horn yes, but Horn became a much different player in NAWLENS. I feel Turley is a good fit if e gains a few pounds and can keep his helmet on his head.

 
How long does it take someone to put on 60 lbs? Considering last I heard he was about 260 lbs. There are tackles in the league at 310 that are considered "small"! That is why I would assume he needs to get to about 320. Though I reckon he could be effective at 300...just not 320 effective. And he's only 30 years old...could be a huge pick up if he pans out. But what are they gonna do about the left side of the line (for next year assuming Roaf and Shields retire)?

 
Any additional OT depth is worth bumping Gonzo up your rankings. Remember how few balls he caught while Roaf was out? If Turley can take over for the next injury, that would make a huge difference.

 
I predict he starts and plays in all 16 games......and is an above-average Tackle for another 3-4 seasons.
My thought is this--since "above-average" tackles are pretty hard to come by, where was all the hub-bub this offseason about the "Kyle Turley sweepstakes"? Where was all the coverage and the rumors about who would land this guy? People around here are pretty attentive, and this is the first I've read about him. . .I think that this is a low risk/high reward signing for the Chiefs. But to think that he will start? I don't buy it. :no: But that's just me.

 
I predict he starts and plays in all 16 games......and is an above-average Tackle for another 3-4 seasons.
My thought is this--since "above-average" tackles are pretty hard to come by, where was all the hub-bub this offseason about the "Kyle Turley sweepstakes"? Where was all the coverage and the rumors about who would land this guy? People around here are pretty attentive, and this is the first I've read about him. . .I think that this is a low risk/high reward signing for the Chiefs. But to think that he will start? I don't buy it. :no: But that's just me.
I agree. He'll probably be a role player. Its hard to see him putting on much weight once the season starts.
 
Once he gets back on the roids/HGH, he will be fine...
I was thinking exactly that BoulderBob. No way the guy can play RT or LT at 255 - 265 lbs. :no:

The only way he'll be able to add a good 60 lbs (and by that I mean muscle & not flab) between now & September, is with HGH.

 
Yes Edwards was the coach of the Jets when Turley threw his helmet. Edwards was quoted in the Kansas City Star saying he liked his mean streak and the fact that he stuck up for another player in that episode. Maybe not what he did but the reasoning behind it. Another thing to keep in mind is that KC has Turleys old line coach from the St Louis Rams who has endorsed him pretty heavily. I see this pickup as a very solid one for KC. This is a good signing for KC as tackles are so hard to come by. All you weight watchers should keep in mind its probably 70 percent technique and attitude and about 30 percent weight. I say this knowing some idiot will say ok what if he comes in at 210lbs, lol. Seriously if he gets back to 285 to say 295 lbs and is lean and toned for that size he will be fantastic.

 
Turley believes he’s back

By ADAM TEICHER

The Kansas City Star

The numerous tattoos were familiar, but otherwise the newest Chiefs offensive lineman was hard to place on his first day at practice Tuesday.

Kyle Turley’s once long and wild hair was now closely cropped. His once-thick body, 310 pounds when he was one of the league’s best tackles for New Orleans and St. Louis, was down to a tight-end-like 275.

The Chiefs are OK with these changes if Turley’s play is recognizable. Turley was out of football for the last two seasons because of back problems, but the Chiefs immediately made him a candidate for the starting right tackle by giving him a handful of snaps there on Tuesday.

Turley will probably win the job if he can show he hasn’t lost his skills. He also must prove to the Chiefs he can play at a weight less than 300 pounds, which he will have to do because of back concerns.

Neither Turley nor the Chiefs appeared worried about either issue.

“I’m not too concerned about the weight,” Turley said. “Football is a technique game. Obviously, you can’t be where I was at 235 pounds to play offensive line. I definitely needed to put on some weight. But once you get up there and your strength is back, it’s basically leverage and quickness and body position. It’s more of a mental game than a physical game for the most part once you get up to 275 or 280.”

Turley initially shed about 75 pounds from his previous playing weight to ease the strain on his back. Some teams looked at Turley this year at the lesser weight as a tight-end prospect.

The Chiefs were interested in Turley only as a tackle. They have a number of candidates to choose from on the right side, but none as polished or accomplished as Turley. He also provides emergency help in case of injury to left tackle Willie Roaf.

The Chiefs struggled without Roaf last season when he missed several games because of hamstring problems.

“When you can get tackles, you get them,” coach Herm Edwards said. “You can’t have enough of them. When one of them gets hurt, all of a sudden you start scratching your head. It’s hard for a young guy to go in there and play right away.”

To accommodate the Chiefs, Turley had to gain weight. If all goes well, he will play at about 285 or 290 pounds.

“The ultimate goal has always been to get back to (playing) tackle,” Turley said. “Obviously, I’ve had a lot of things fighting against that with the back injury and the weight-loss situation. I’ve fought back from that, and it’s continuing to come back very well. The weight is coming back strong and I’m keeping it in a good form, so it’s as much as I can put on and whatever the doctors say my back can handle.

“It’s good weight. It’s not weight I’m putting on eating a bunch of pizzas.”

Turley has generated his share of controversy. While with New Orleans, he was ejected from a 2001 game against Edwards’ Jets when he grabbed the helmet of an opposing player and heaved it across the field.

While with the Rams, he once allegedly threatened coach Mike Martz, though Turley denied he did.

“He’s an emotional guy,” Edwards said.

Turley shouldn’t take long getting familiar with the Chiefs’ offense. He played in an almost identical system with the Rams. His line coach in St. Louis was John Matsko, who now holds the same job with the Chiefs.

All that’s left for Turley is to bulk up and play.

“He’s down on his weight, but that’s OK,” Edwards said. “I don’t think he’s going to be playing over 300 pounds. I don’t think he has to be. He’s a guy that’s a pretty good athlete, a long-armed guy and he’s played a lot in this league.

“One thing about veteran players, good ones: They know what their weight should be and what they should play at. I’m pretty sure if he feels good at 285, 290, he’ll feel comfortable playing there.”

• The Chiefs also announced the signing of veteran defensive tackle James Reed. He played for Edwards for five seasons with the Jets and joins a crowded field competing for roster spots.

To make roster room, the Chiefs released fullback Travis Wilson, who played at Kansas State.

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How long does it take someone to put on 60 lbs? Considering last I heard he was about 260 lbs. There are tackles in the league at 310 that are considered "small"! That is why I would assume he needs to get to about 320. Though I reckon he could be effective at 300...just not 320 effective. And he's only 30 years old...could be a huge pick up if he pans out. But what are they gonna do about the left side of the line (for next year assuming Roaf and Shields retire)?
I do not believe weight = success! A player does not get better as he gets bigger.
 
I don't understand all the Turley hype. To say he was one of the best in the game is a stretch. To say he is a slightly above average RIGHT tackle is more accurate. IMO he was below average when he played LT. Regardless of which side he was playing he was EXTREMELY vulnerable to the bull rush, and that was before he lost weight. He's got decent feet but poor strength. He has also been a major disruption to both teams he has played for with his cry baby antics.

 
Al of you talking about his weight.....check out the KC Center, Casey Weigmann.......see if he looks like you prototypical center.

6'2 285

That sounds undersized to me.

 
Al of you talking about his weight.....check out the KC Center, Casey Weigmann.......see if he looks like you prototypical center.

6'2 285

That sounds undersized to me.
Centers almost always get help from the guards (whom are usually fat blobs). What I think is funny is I was listening to an interview with Turley here in KC and he's talking about needing to put on weight but it's not like he's gonna go out and eat pizza everyday. He's gonna put it on the right way...blah, blah, blah. Given, he won't need to be over 300 lbs to play tackle from what Edwards is saying. But, how in the world do you put on atleast 40 lbs of "good" weight in 2 months...legally? Seriously. Do you just plug an IV into you and mainline Whey protien or something? Either way, I think he might be able to contribute some this year, but unless he gets his weight up to about 315 - 320 I think he will still be susceptible to the bull rush. You have to consider that his strength probably isn't what it once was either. I'd say he won't be a big part of the gameplan until 2007. I do love his meanstreak though. He also mentioned that is doctors were against his decision to gain the extra weight due to his back (which is why he lost so much weight and figured he'd try to be a TE). I hope he is able to make a contribute, but do to his back issues and weight issues I'm skeptical as to how much he'll be able to contribute. :football:

 
Al of you talking about his weight.....check out the KC Center, Casey Weigmann.......see if he looks like you prototypical center.

6'2 285

That sounds undersized to me.
Centers almost always get help from the guards (whom are usually fat blobs). What I think is funny is I was listening to an interview with Turley here in KC and he's talking about needing to put on weight but it's not like he's gonna go out and eat pizza everyday. He's gonna put it on the right way...blah, blah, blah. Given, he won't need to be over 300 lbs to play tackle from what Edwards is saying. But, how in the world do you put on atleast 40 lbs of "good" weight in 2 months...legally? Seriously. Do you just plug an IV into you and mainline Whey protien or something? Either way, I think he might be able to contribute some this year, but unless he gets his weight up to about 315 - 320 I think he will still be susceptible to the bull rush. You have to consider that his strength probably isn't what it once was either. I'd say he won't be a big part of the gameplan until 2007. I do love his meanstreak though. He also mentioned that is doctors were against his decision to gain the extra weight due to his back (which is why he lost so much weight and figured he'd try to be a TE). I hope he is able to make a contribute, but do to his back issues and weight issues I'm skeptical as to how much he'll be able to contribute. :football:
To my knowledge Turley never played @ 315-320. His usually playing weight was @ 305-310.
 
Yes Edwards was the coach of the Jets when Turley threw his helmet. Edwards was quoted in the Kansas City Star saying he liked his mean streak and the fact that he stuck up for another player in that episode. Maybe not what he did but the reasoning behind it. Another thing to keep in mind is that KC has Turleys old line coach from the St Louis Rams who has endorsed him pretty heavily. I see this pickup as a very solid one for KC. This is a good signing for KC as tackles are so hard to come by. All you weight watchers should keep in mind its probably 70 percent technique and attitude and about 30 percent weight. I say this knowing some idiot will say ok what if he comes in at 210lbs, lol. Seriously if he gets back to 285 to say 295 lbs and is lean and toned for that size he will be fantastic.
Everyone in the NFL has "technique". Sure some are better than others, but if he's facing a DE that has weight/strength on him and technique is a push...then they'll be back to calling him turnstyle turley.
 
When he was 28, Kyle hurt his back; badly.

He came back too early and re-injured his back in training camp, doing more damage than the original injury. He sat out the entire season.

After sitting out the entire season, he was still not even ready to consider playing the following year; another season out of action.

Now that he will be 31 in September, does anyone think that his back has really healed?

Has anyone ever recovered from an injury that required two years of rest? I honestly have no idea, maybe it has happened. I don't mean like a torn ACL where the first year back is rusty and the player is really getting back to form in the 2nd year. I mean two years sitting and waiting for a single injury to improve just so they can try to get back on the practice field?

Week One I don't even think Turley will be on the roster; I think it is a little early to think he might challenge for any kind of playing time. His first goal is to play one down in a preseason game.

 

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