L Bell - What about that knee??? (1 Viewer)

[Harvey Ryan]

I know that he finishes his suspension this week and he is free to return, BUT... just because he is allowed to return, does this mean that he is ready? Look at J Charles or D Lewis. These injuries take longer than you think, and it's not like D Williams has been stinking up the joint. What do we know about his status of recovery from last seasons injury?

 

[Franknbeans]

He was ready Week 1

 

[VaTerp]

Bell played in the pre-season, something obviously neither Charles or Lewis did or were ready to do.  And according to him, he was ready a month and half ago.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000681235/article/leveon-bell-i-feel-that-i-got-all-my-speed-back

 

[Interseptopus]

I'm not worried a smidgen 

 

[nittanylion]

It's very interesting, the dynamic in play as we prepare for LeVeon Bell's return...I purposefully don't own him anywhere, and am not looking to acquire him, because, in my opinion, there are factors in play that could surpress his productivity, and maybe his availability, this year:

1. Bell himself: I'd love to hear the other side of the argument, but I'm firmly in the camp that Bell is a knucklehead of the first order. I think his knuckleheadedness runs so deep that it's inevitable that before too long, he finds a way to get in his own way again. Human nature scares me a lot more than the knee. Particularly, his own human nature: against the better judgement of the Steelers and his representation, he acted very stupidly in his absence, when he should have laid low, done his time, and even if it was only acting, portrayed an attitude of humble contrition. Instead, he's made himself a target before he's even stepped on the field.

2. The Steelers Organization: My opinion on Bell doesn't mean squat, but I'm an old man who has followed football passionately for a long time. I'm fairly certain that the Steelers Organization (over time) / Mike Tomlin (in the moment) concurs with my opinion of Bell, and they will take a defensive approach with him, conjecturing that he may likely engage in behavior that will impact his availability moving forward. The NFL plays into this as well. I think Bell will be very much on Goodell's radar, and subject to extreme scrutiny for the entire Season. Goodell is a 'Paladin' - he's very righteous about the Shield, and possesses a vindictive streak/righteous indignation regarding those who thumb their nose at him and the League, and Bell has acted quite stupidly in that regard.

3. The Steelers Organization is definitely in a 'window' right now, in relation to Big Ben's career arc. In my opinion, they are smart enough not to mess with something that's working, and are going to be very protective of their Super Bowl aspirations. DAW has been playing lights-out football in Bell's absence, both this year and last. This gives them the ability to be 'flexible' with Bell, meaning from a team chemistry/in-house disciplinary standpoint. His behavior messed with the Team (big no-no) and his replacement has played every bit as well in his absence, making it less important for them to just hand him back his old role on his return. The Steelers/Tomlin could certainly take an initial approach, under the guise of 'being concerned about the viability of the knee/easing him back in' - of rationing his playing time and forcing him to 'earn back' the carries share he enjoyed prior to behaving stupidly. DAW has, quite honestly, given them a perfectly legitimate excuse to manage his behavior and playing time from a defensive approach. They are certainly NOT an organization in crisis, 'just dying' for Bell The Savior to come riding in on his white horse to salvage a Season in turmoil...

In the NFL, talent almost always wins out, and Bell certainly has it, in droves, his return will warrant deserved playing time because having him on the field makes the Steelers better...but so does Williams, and I'm fairly certain that the Steelers have a locker room dynamic similar to what the Ravens had during the Ray Lewis era, and the Players themselves are going to be very protective of their window and team dynamic as they welcome him back. It's not like he was a victim - he engaged in stupid behavior that theoretically impacted a Super Bowl-run year. Strong team leaders know what to forgive and what to forget, and who and how to hold accountable. I dont' think Ben and others welcome him back with an 'all is forgiven' approach. More like 'great to have you back man, but we've got a good thing going on here. We've proved we can do it with, or without, you. You can make it better, but you'd better not make it worse'. Based on what I think I know about the NFL, the Steelers Organization and Tomlin, I drafted DAW in several High Stakes Entries when he fell to a reasonable slot (8th-9th Round), and I'm working every Owner in my trade Leagues already, trying to pre-emptively acquire DAW the minute Bell is reinstated...because early on, I don't think DAW's role diminishes that much, over time I still think he carries stand-alone value as a PPR RB2, and I think Bell is a ticking time bomb of 'I-don't-get-it-ness' that's one easy (IMHO) step away from being put on lockdown again by the League for a very long time.

Now, don't get me wrong - I feel Bell is going to be very productive if he stays clean...but I don't think DAW is going anywhere, and barring injury, even in an optimal situation I think it's going to be a time-share moving forward (albeit a very productive one) - enough to produce a low-end RB1 and a high-end RB2 in PPR.

...but I'd bet dollars to donuts that Bell will screw up again before this Season concludes. Just my opinion...

 

[Dr. Octopus]

...but I'd bet dollars to donuts that Bell will screw up again before this Season concludes. Just my opinion...

How often do players screw up in-season? Almost all of these transgressions take place during the offseason when players are not under team control and are not subject to strict team schedules and regimens.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

How often do players screw up in-season? Almost all of these transgressions take place during the offseason when players are not under team control and are not subject to strict team schedules and regimens.

Not true. Him n blount were smoking a jay on the way.to the team plane.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Not true. Him n blount were smoking a jay on the way.to the team plane.

preseason game, but your point is valid as it pertains to Bell. Generally speaking I think my point is valid as well.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

preseason game, but your point is valid as it pertains to Bell. Generally speaking I think my point is valid as well.

More worried about him getting injured than another suspension for this season. It has happened the last three years. 

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Dude in my division in one league took DeAnkelo Williams with a 5th round pick. We all laughed. Dude has been rolling everyone with DeAnkelo's ridiculous productivity - and both wins were divisional. The Bell owner is also in my division, and he's 0-2, soon to be 0-3 from the looks of it. 

It'll throws my division into chaos next week with the soon to be 0-3 Bell owner getting healthy and the (hopefully soon to be) 2-1 DeAnkelo owner getting worse. (he's my opponent this week - my team and matchups are better on paper but we all know how that goes. 

And as the Roethlisburger owner (who's starting Ryan this week) I am just exceited that Big Ben gets Bell back - I can't imagine the Steelers just benching DeAngelo though - will be interested to see how they use them both. 

 

[[icon]]

As a Memphis fan (my good buddy is DWill's kid's godfather) and DWill owner in several leagues I'd LOVE to think that his immense production in the first couple games will earn him a nice share of carries once Bell is back, history has shown that just isn't the case. There's always a chance things go differently this time, but I'm not counting on it. 

 

[tigerz]

My concern is if Williams will eat into bells carries. How long has it been since bell had a full game? I'm hoping he delivers as I feel like it's been so long since his dominant season. 

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

My concern is if Williams will eat into bells carries. How long has it been since bell had a full game? I'm hoping he delivers as I feel like it's been so long since his dominant season. 

As [icon] accurately stated, the last time this happened (suspension/return) DeAngelo became a pure "breather back" when Bell tapped out. 

But last time Bell was not coming off of a serious knee injury. The breathers might be a bit more frequent. 

I'd put the O/U on 7-9 carries/game for DWill after Bell comes back. And probably not important carries like RZ/GL.  Unless Bell has a 40 yard run and it's his 4th run in a row - then I could see them putting in a fresher DWill inside the 20, but that would be about it. 

DWill might not even be a flex-play, IF Bell is 100%. 

 

[DeaLerZ]

It's very interesting, the dynamic in play as we prepare for LeVeon Bell's return...I purposefully don't own him anywhere, and am not looking to acquire him, because, in my opinion, there are factors in play that could surpress his productivity, and maybe his availability, this year:

1. Bell himself: I'd love to hear the other side of the argument, but I'm firmly in the camp that Bell is a knucklehead of the first order. I think his knuckleheadedness runs so deep that it's inevitable that before too long, he finds a way to get in his own way again. Human nature scares me a lot more than the knee. Particularly, his own human nature: against the better judgement of the Steelers and his representation, he acted very stupidly in his absence, when he should have laid low, done his time, and even if it was only acting, portrayed an attitude of humble contrition. Instead, he's made himself a target before he's even stepped on the field.

2. The Steelers Organization: My opinion on Bell doesn't mean squat, but I'm an old man who has followed football passionately for a long time. I'm fairly certain that the Steelers Organization (over time) / Mike Tomlin (in the moment) concurs with my opinion of Bell, and they will take a defensive approach with him, conjecturing that he may likely engage in behavior that will impact his availability moving forward. The NFL plays into this as well. I think Bell will be very much on Goodell's radar, and subject to extreme scrutiny for the entire Season. Goodell is a 'Paladin' - he's very righteous about the Shield, and possesses a vindictive streak/righteous indignation regarding those who thumb their nose at him and the League, and Bell has acted quite stupidly in that regard.

3. The Steelers Organization is definitely in a 'window' right now, in relation to Big Ben's career arc. In my opinion, they are smart enough not to mess with something that's working, and are going to be very protective of their Super Bowl aspirations. DAW has been playing lights-out football in Bell's absence, both this year and last. This gives them the ability to be 'flexible' with Bell, meaning from a team chemistry/in-house disciplinary standpoint. His behavior messed with the Team (big no-no) and his replacement has played every bit as well in his absence, making it less important for them to just hand him back his old role on his return. The Steelers/Tomlin could certainly take an initial approach, under the guise of 'being concerned about the viability of the knee/easing him back in' - of rationing his playing time and forcing him to 'earn back' the carries share he enjoyed prior to behaving stupidly. DAW has, quite honestly, given them a perfectly legitimate excuse to manage his behavior and playing time from a defensive approach. They are certainly NOT an organization in crisis, 'just dying' for Bell The Savior to come riding in on his white horse to salvage a Season in turmoil...

In the NFL, talent almost always wins out, and Bell certainly has it, in droves, his return will warrant deserved playing time because having him on the field makes the Steelers better...but so does Williams, and I'm fairly certain that the Steelers have a locker room dynamic similar to what the Ravens had during the Ray Lewis era, and the Players themselves are going to be very protective of their window and team dynamic as they welcome him back. It's not like he was a victim - he engaged in stupid behavior that theoretically impacted a Super Bowl-run year. Strong team leaders know what to forgive and what to forget, and who and how to hold accountable. I dont' think Ben and others welcome him back with an 'all is forgiven' approach. More like 'great to have you back man, but we've got a good thing going on here. We've proved we can do it with, or without, you. You can make it better, but you'd better not make it worse'. Based on what I think I know about the NFL, the Steelers Organization and Tomlin, I drafted DAW in several High Stakes Entries when he fell to a reasonable slot (8th-9th Round), and I'm working every Owner in my trade Leagues already, trying to pre-emptively acquire DAW the minute Bell is reinstated...because early on, I don't think DAW's role diminishes that much, over time I still think he carries stand-alone value as a PPR RB2, and I think Bell is a ticking time bomb of 'I-don't-get-it-ness' that's one easy (IMHO) step away from being put on lockdown again by the League for a very long time.

Now, don't get me wrong - I feel Bell is going to be very productive if he stays clean...but I don't think DAW is going anywhere, and barring injury, even in an optimal situation I think it's going to be a time-share moving forward (albeit a very productive one) - enough to produce a low-end RB1 and a high-end RB2 in PPR.

...but I'd bet dollars to donuts that Bell will screw up again before this Season concludes. Just my opinion...

There are a lot worse things than smoking a joint or missing a few drug tests... drinking and driving, domestic violence,and rape come to mind... i seriously doubt the Steeler's have Bell on thin ice when their "talented" QB took advantage of women under the influence

and this.. 

After his suspension was announced, Bell apologized to his fans and teammates in a video he posted to Twitter that was removed a short time later. He stated in the video that he missed drug tests in December, January and April. "I put the blame on myself," Bell said.

Bell ended the video by stating "after this whole situation is done, you'll get a better person and a better player out of it."

On Saturday, he elaborated on his comments while speaking to reporters after practice.

"I own up to everything," Bell said. "It's all my fault and I can't blame anyone for anything.

"Obviously, I've got to learn from this and move on."

More worried about the potential for injury than anything.. and you are in good shape as long as you have DeAngelo Williams who recently stated... 

"No! I am an insurance policy," Williams said. "I'm driving the car till L-Bell gets back. I'm trying to keep us in good position till he gets back. That's good with me. When I came here, I came here to win a Super Bowl. That's the only thing I care about."

 

[Warhogs]

I'm trying to recollect from my old mind but I thought there was some talk this spring and summer that DeAngelo would have a fair amount of work even when Bell was healthy.  I think he has earned it.  I think his play allows them to ease Bell in a bit.  This suggests to me that both might be decent flex plays but I think it will take Bell a few games to become a must start option.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I'm trying to recollect from my old mind but I thought there was some talk this spring and summer that DeAngelo would have a fair amount of work even when Bell was healthy.  I think he has earned it.  I think his play allows them to ease Bell in a bit.  This suggests to me that both might be decent flex plays but I think it will take Bell a few games to become a must start option.

That would make the most sense. But what makes sense and what teams do are often far apart. I would say for the 1st game back they're both must-starts. People who took Bell with a 1st or early 2nd have to start him....and DWIll has been so productive how could the DWill owners bench him? 

Will be interesting to see, that's for sure. Someone's gonna get burned. I'm glad I stayed out of that mess. 

 

[Dezbelief]

I agree with HSG, DWill will not be flexible when Bell returns. I do expect Bell to get dinged again and for DWill to be playable again when that happens.

 

[Steeler]

I don't think DAW is going anywhere, and barring injury, even in an optimal situation I think it's going to be a time-share moving forward (albeit a very productive one) - enough to produce a low-end RB1 and a high-end RB2 in PPR.

Tomlin prefers a workhorse back and has used one ever since he has been the Steeler's coach.  Back when Willie Parker was the starter Tomlin said he would "run him until the wheel's fall off" and he did just that.  This year will play out exactly like last year after Bell's suspension - Bell will become the bell cow (he he) and DWill will be relegated to a backup roll with limited touches per game.  If there is some kind of timeshare between Bell and DWill it will be a departure from how Tomlin usually operates and I will frankly be shocked if that occurs.

 

[Franknbeans]

Word out of the burgh is it will go back to the way it was the last time Bell came off suspension with Bell getting most of the work. Why do you think Tomlin is running Williams into the ground? He will get a much deserved rest once Bell returns.

 

[Bayhawks]

But last time Bell was not coming off of a serious knee injury. The breathers might be a bit more frequent. 

Last time Bell WAS coming off a knee injury; he injured it in the final regular season game & missed the playoffs as a result

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Last time Bell WAS coming off a knee injury; he injured it in the final regular season game & missed the playoffs as a result

Oh snap - you're right! Did he have reconstruction that offseason as well? I don't recall....

 

[Bayhawks]

I'm trying to recollect from my old mind but I thought there was some talk this spring and summer that DeAngelo would have a fair amount of work even when Bell was healthy.  I think he has earned it.  I think his play allows them to ease Bell in a bit.  This suggests to me that both might be decent flex plays but I think it will take Bell a few games to become a must start option.

If this talk did occur, it was only on FF message boards, not from Pitt coaches, players; there wasn't any talk like that around here during the off season, pre-season, or during DWills great start.

 

[Bayhawks]

Oh snap - you're right! Did he have reconstruction that offseason as well? I don't recall....

Oh snap - he didn't.  But that isn't what you posted or what I replied to.

 

[cheese]

Williams gets a lot of credit from me. It's not this easy to step in and dominate, then sit bench, then step in and dominate, then welcome back this guy and be a great teammate. 

As others have said, Bell finishing the season seems to be the outlier. If anything happens, I'm not betting against Williams doing it again. 

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Oh snap - he didn't.  But that isn't what you posted or what I replied to.

Oh snap! No need to be sarcastic. 

I'd forgotten that he was coming back from an injury last time as well.

Seems relevant that this injury was worse, but who knows.

imdidnt draft either of these players - as a Roethlisburger owner I'd prefer Bell since he's seemingly a better receiver out of the backfield. 

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Williams gets a lot of credit from me. It's not this easy to step in and dominate, then sit bench, then step in and dominate, then welcome back this guy and be a great teammate. 

As others have said, Bell finishing the season seems to be the outlier. If anything happens, I'm not betting against Williams doing it again. 

Agreed - he's been underrated everywhere he's played after Carolina. 

The Panthers era was riddled with ankle injuries - but then it's not like JStew is the epitome of health either.

Maybe if the Panthers had DWill they'd have had a better shot against Denver last year. Probably not, but ya never know....

 

[Steeler]

As a steeler fan i love DWill - he clearly works so well in this offense and provides excellent depth for the steelers IRL football.  Also, love his team player attitude!

But for fantasy purposes, he will be unstartable next week when Bell returns.  If i had Dwill on any teams i would certainly stash him in case Bell does get hurt again, but that's what it will take for Dwill to have value starting next week. 

 

[FreeBaGeL]

Why is there the perception that DWill has been playing incredibly awesome the first two weeks?  It seems there is at least a bit of a perception bias based on the fantasy numbers that the volume and scoring opportunities have provided.  He's been solid, but not great.  4.1ypc is just OK.  Bell has averaged 4.9ypc since he broke out in year 2.  In week 2 in particular everyone has been high-fiving over DWill's awesome 20+ point game but he ran for 2.9ypc in that game.

Not saying he's been bad or anything, but a bunch of volume at almost a full 1ypc less than Bell was putting up the last two years seems a far cry from "he's earned a good share of the touches when Bell gets back".

 

[VaTerp]

Agreed - he's been underrated everywhere he's played after Carolina. 

He's only played in Pittsburgh since Carolina.

I don't think anyone has ever questioned the talent.  His dominant stretch back in 2008 will forever live in FF lore.  And I agree that what he's done in Pittsburgh in stepping up when his number is called and then deferring to Bell without complaint is not appreciated enough.

But I still don't have any reason to believe that he doesnt take a full backseat to a healthy Bell as he did last year.  Maybe they give DWill and extra series here and there but this has been a one back offense and I expect it to stay that way.  They have the luxury of having a guy who can step in and not lose much if the starter goes down but all indications are that Bell will continue to be the guy.  As someone else said I think that's why the have no  issue giving a 33 year old RB this many touches b/c he goes back on the shelf next week until needed.

Full disclosure, I am now heavily invested in Bell in all 3 of my main redraft leagues.  But I'm invested b/c I believe in his potential as the #1RB in FF on a ppg basis.  Not the other way around in that I'm propping him up simply b/c I own him.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

He's only played in Pittsburgh since Carolina.

Yes, I realized I phrased that poorly. I meant he was underrated in CAR, but having only one cup of coffee in my bloodstream I probably shouldn't be trying to articulate things. 

The knock on him in CAR is that he couldn't get that ankle healthy, thus the nickname "DeAnkelo", but he did have some amazing seasons there - I had him on several teams. 

I don't think anyone has ever questioned the talent.  His dominant stretch back in 2008 will forever live in FF lore.  And I agree that what he's done in Pittsburgh in stepping up when his number is called and then deferring to Bell without complaint is not appreciated enough.

But I still don't have any reason to believe that he doesnt take a full backseat to a healthy Bell as he did last year.  Maybe they give DWill and extra series here and there but this has been a one back offense and I expect it to stay that way.  They have the luxury of having a guy who can step in and not lose much if the starter goes down but all indications are that Bell will continue to be the guy.  As someone else said I think that's why the have no  issue giving a 33 year old RB this many touches b/c he goes back on the shelf next week until needed.

Full disclosure, I am now heavily invested in Bell in all 3 of my main redraft leagues.  But I'm invested b/c I believe in his potential as the #1RB in FF on a ppg basis.  Not the other way around in that I'm propping him up simply b/c I own him.

Oh, I think you're right - I've said it before, what NFL teams should do and what NFL teams often actually do are vastly different things. 

But as we've seen with other players, setbacks do happen, and this was a more serious injury to Bell...might be smart to get DWill more touches this time around. I don't think they'll do it, but it would be smart.  

 

[Tommy Collins]

Bell is entering a contract year. So I would HOPE that he stays out of trouble the rest of the season. You know the saying, players typically put in 100% effort during contract years to maximize their value. But there are 3 theories to this. The 4th one is most likely to be the truest.

1. They treat Bell like the Cowboys did with DeMarco. Run him into the ground, give him a ton of carries with no intent on resigning him. After all, the 33-year-old DeAngelo Williams has done just fine. Do they really need to resign Bell, or could they find another RB to perform to a similar ability at a cheaper cost?
   
2. They want to resign Bell and to keep him fresh for the playoffs, they give Williams more looks throughout the season
   
3. Bell continues being the primary workhouse
   
4. I have no clue what I'm talking about
   

 

[ATB]

I'm a Bell owner who desperately wanted DWill but another guy in my league took him ONE pick before me. #######.

Anyway. I want DWill as Bell's handcuff in case he re-injures himself, but I'm not trading anyone to get him.

Here's why: Bell will be the Bell cow (pun intended) and DWill will be his relief when needed. DWill is Tomlinson's insurance policy for Bell just like any FF owner of Bell. DWill needs to stay healthy and fresh in case he's needed.

So anyone who owns DWill is going to be thankful they had him the first 3 weeks, but then they're going to drop him after another 3 weeks of <5pts in standard scoring.

And then I'll scoop him up.

Who knows, perhaps he'll win me the playoffs like he did last year.

 

[Bayhawks]

Oh snap! No need to be sarcastic. 

I'd forgotten that he was coming back from an injury last time as well.

Seems relevant that this injury was worse, but who knows.

imdidnt draft either of these players - as a Roethlisburger owner I'd prefer Bell since he's seemingly a better receiver out of the backfield. 

If your post wasn't meant to be sarcastic, then I apologize for mine.  I read it that way, could have been my interpretation.

I don't see any kind of significant time-share; while Bell is healthy/not suspended, I'd expect him to get the bulk of the touches.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

If your post wasn't meant to be sarcastic, then I apologize for mine.  I read it that way, could have been my interpretation.

It was not but not a big deal - I can see how it could be taken as such. 

I don't see any kind of significant time-share; while Bell is healthy/not suspended, I'd expect him to get the bulk of the touches.

I agree with this. 

 

[Baloney Sandwich]

I'm a Bell owner who desperately wanted DWill but another guy in my league took him ONE pick before me. #######.

Anyway. I want DWill as Bell's handcuff in case he re-injures himself, but I'm not trading anyone to get him.

Here's why: Bell will be the Bell cow (pun intended) and DWill will be his relief when needed. DWill is Tomlinson's insurance policy for Bell just like any FF owner of Bell. DWill needs to stay healthy and fresh in case he's needed.

So anyone who owns DWill is going to be thankful they had him the first 3 weeks, but then they're going to drop him after another 3 weeks of <5pts in standard scoring.

And then I'll scoop him up.

Who knows, perhaps he'll win me the playoffs like he did last year.

As a Williams owner who doesn't own Bell, I can tell you there is no way I'm dropping him.  I drafted him for the first 3 weeks and then will have him on my bench as a huge upside if Bell gets injured or suspended again.  I have to think the vast majority of folks in my position are taking the same approach.

 

[ATB]

As a Williams owner who doesn't own Bell, I can tell you there is no way I'm dropping him.  I drafted him for the first 3 weeks and then will have him on my bench as a huge upside if Bell gets injured or suspended again.  I have to think the vast majority of folks in my position are taking the same approach.

Well, you say that now but, with bye-weeks and potential injuries to your roster, he's only one or two spots away from being dropped if you're in a pinch...

 

[Steeler]

Most Dwill owners will likely hold due to the massive upside in case Bell does get hurt again.  I'm going to look into a trade for Dwil after this week,  but I just don't see that owner willing to give him up.

 

[ATB]

Most Dwill owners will likely hold due to the massive upside in case Bell does get hurt again.  I'm going to look into a trade for Dwil after this week,  but I just don't see that owner willing to give him up.

That's my plan too. If, after a few weeks of non-production from DWill, his owner doesn't drop him. I'll attempt a trade with a bench player. Unrealized upside shouldn't trump every-week production.

 

[Tommy Collins]

Most Dwill owners will likely hold due to the massive upside in case Bell does get hurt again.  I'm going to look into a trade for Dwil after this week,  but I just don't see that owner willing to give him up.

I'm doubting it as well. I already sent out a feeler this week hoping the guy may be looking to replace that production. I would expect most to want to hold onto Williams to see what the carries split will be once Bell comes back before making a trade.

 

[Baloney Sandwich]

That's my plan too. If, after a few weeks of non-production from DWill, his owner doesn't drop him. I'll attempt a trade with a bench player. Unrealized upside shouldn't trump every-week production.

You said a few posts up you were not trading anyone to get him

 

[ATB]

You said a few posts up you were not trading anyone to get him

Not immediately, I meant. Obviously, is we're approaching the playoffs and some numb nut is still holding him, I'll offer pennies for him.

 

[Baloney Sandwich]

Not immediately, I meant. Obviously, is we're approaching the playoffs and some numb nut is still holding him, I'll offer pennies for him.

let me know how that works out for you 

 

[ATB]

let me know how that works out for you 

I'm sure I will since I care what you think.

 

[VaTerp]

Not to keen on bumping this particular Bell thread but the search function......yeah so....

Feels really good looking at Bell in my lineup after early RB2/3 plans did not exactly pan out but my teams are still positioned relatively well.  For many of us the FF season just became much more exciting.  As long as he can stay healthy he is a top 2 RB the rest of the season.

Tomlin says "rest assured....you are going to see a lot of him Sunday."

http://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/nfl/342953/tomlin-promises-a-lot-of-leveon-bell-in-week-4?ls=rotoIT:topheadlines

Giddy up!

 

[Tommy Collins]

The Williams owner offered me DeAngelo for Will Fuller, then canceled and offered him to me for Jordan Reed. I'm not pulling the trigger on that, but was considering making the move for Fuller, whom I don't have much faith in. I guess that week 3 game put a sour taste in my mouth.

If Bell has a great game, I'm expecting the price on Williams to fall some more. Especially when teams that were counting on production from Williams to be needing to replace those points somehow.

 

[VaTerp]

Asking for Jordan Reed is hilarious.  Can't blame him for trying though.

I own Bell in all 3 of my leagues and am going to wait until next week to start making my offers for Williams.

In my 14 team short bench league I think the owner may have to drop him to cover byes in a few weeks.  But I may still offer him the last guy on my bench.  We'll see.

 

[Tommy Collins]

Asking for Jordan Reed is hilarious.  Can't blame him for trying though.

I own Bell in all 3 of my leagues and am going to wait until next week to start making my offers for Williams.

In my 14 team short bench league I think the owner may have to drop him to cover byes in a few weeks.  But I may still offer him the last guy on my bench.  We'll see.

I'm in a 12 team where we have 14 starting positions and 7 bench spots. I just traded for Rawls (& have CMike) so holding 2 bench spots for backup RBs is a hell of a tough spot to be in. I need at least 1 bench spot for a QB & 1 for a TE, with the rest for RB/WR. So that leaves 5 for RB/WR, with 1 designated for Rawls right now. Another for Williams would give me 3 backups to cover byes/injuries. Having just Williams would be 4 bench spots to cover injuries/byes. I would imagine the Williams owner will be considering dumping Williams in the future if it's anything like the situation in my league. I'm also going to hold until next week.

 

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So happy to see him in my lineup. Too bad I'm 1-2, hopefully he is worth the two losses.