Ladainian Tomlinson HoF? (1 Viewer)

[Koya]

Please refrain from mentioning LT unless you are referencing Lawrence Taylor. LT2, good as he was, is not even close to LT in terms of his impact on the game nor his place amongst all time greats at his position

LT2 would have to go for nearly 20k rushing yards before coming close to usurping the LT monicker from the greatest linebacker ever and quick possibly greatest defensive player in the history of the game.

Why is there not room for two guys called LT? No one is going to confuse the two when you are discussing them because they played on opposite sides of the ball.

Just ain't. It's my own personal let me overact on a message board pet peeve. There is only one LT, and until someone at least approaches his greatness, which as good as LT2 is, he has not nor will, then the moniker is LT's to keep.

 

[Bri]

Please refrain from mentioning LT unless you are referencing Lawrence Taylor. LT2, good as he was, is not even close to LT in terms of his impact on the game nor his place amongst all time greats at his position

LT2 would have to go for nearly 20k rushing yards before coming close to usurping the LT monicker from the greatest linebacker ever and quick possibly greatest defensive player in the history of the game.

Why is there not room for two guys called LT? No one is going to confuse the two when you are discussing them because they played on opposite sides of the ball.

Just ain't. It's my own personal let me overact on a message board pet peeve. There is only one LT, and until someone at least approaches his greatness, which as good as LT2 is, he has not nor will, then the moniker is LT's to keep.

Same with me too. Actually became numb to it around here for a time. If Tomlinson had a season of all 4 TD games then I'd rethink it but...I just don't think the younger guys can quite understand how the fastest most athletic guy was also the scariest and RBs and QBs were scared of him-250 lb muscle bound guys scared of him!When Haynesworth is on his A-game and his presence was holding RBs to under 50 yds and he's catching Greg Jennings or Reggie Wayne from behind (once Wayne on other side of field AND from behind) that's a glimpse of LT-like dominance and speed IMO. Haynesworth's tackles injured 6 or 7 QBs one year, that's a glimpse of the fear. STILL it's not close for me but it was the closest I've ever seen for a moment or two.

 

[switz]

Please refrain from mentioning LT unless you are referencing Lawrence Taylor. LT2, good as he was, is not even close to LT in terms of his impact on the game nor his place amongst all time greats at his position

LT2 would have to go for nearly 20k rushing yards before coming close to usurping the LT monicker from the greatest linebacker ever and quick possibly greatest defensive player in the history of the game.

Why is there not room for two guys called LT? No one is going to confuse the two when you are discussing them because they played on opposite sides of the ball.

Just ain't. It's my own personal let me overact on a message board pet peeve. There is only one LT, and until someone at least approaches his greatness, which as good as LT2 is, he has not nor will, then the moniker is LT's to keep.

LT changed the way the game was played... LT2 was a great RB, one of the all time greats IMO, but the NFL is the same NFL he entered. When Taylor left the NFL, many teams had changed their entire OL philosophy due to his play.

 

[ckl81]

Please refrain from mentioning LT unless you are referencing Lawrence Taylor. LT2, good as he was, is not even close to LT in terms of his impact on the game nor his place amongst all time greats at his position

LT2 would have to go for nearly 20k rushing yards before coming close to usurping the LT monicker from the greatest linebacker ever and quick possibly greatest defensive player in the history of the game.

Why is there not room for two guys called LT? No one is going to confuse the two when you are discussing them because they played on opposite sides of the ball.

Just ain't. It's my own personal let me overact on a message board pet peeve. There is only one LT, and until someone at least approaches his greatness, which as good as LT2 is, he has not nor will, then the moniker is LT's to keep.

LT changed the way the game was played... LT2 was a great RB, one of the all time greats IMO, but the NFL is the same NFL he entered. When Taylor left the NFL, many teams had changed their entire OL philosophy due to his play.

I never really understood this problem with Tomlinson using the LT "nickname." LT isn't a _real_ nickname, it just happens to be the initials for both Lawrence Taylor and LaDainian Tomlinson. I can understand the griping if Lawrence Taylor had some nickname like "LT. Murder", or something more unique, and Tomlinson came along and wanted to claim that same nickname, but it's far from the case. Everyone's allowed their own pet peeves though...

 

[kolejo]

unreal that anyone would vote no

They aren't serious votes.

he also ran out of holes that were big enough for a semi to drive through, a great O-line made emmitt although he was a good running back worthy of the HOF, there is an arguement if he is even a top 10 RB in my opinion.LT2 on the other hand, much better skill set and much better player, definite first ballot HOFalso the 15 no votes i'm guessing are all denver, kc and oakland fans that have been tortures for years by LT2

 

[kolejo]

Please refrain from mentioning LT unless you are referencing Lawrence Taylor. LT2, good as he was, is not even close to LT in terms of his impact on the game nor his place amongst all time greats at his position

LT2 would have to go for nearly 20k rushing yards before coming close to usurping the LT monicker from the greatest linebacker ever and quick possibly greatest defensive player in the history of the game.

Why is there not room for two guys called LT? No one is going to confuse the two when you are discussing them because they played on opposite sides of the ball.

Just ain't. It's my own personal let me overact on a message board pet peeve. There is only one LT, and until someone at least approaches his greatness, which as good as LT2 is, he has not nor will, then the moniker is LT's to keep.

LT changed the way the game was played... LT2 was a great RB, one of the all time greats IMO, but the NFL is the same NFL he entered. When Taylor left the NFL, many teams had changed their entire OL philosophy due to his play.

I think that is the first time i've heard lawrence taylor mentioned as the best linebacker ever, one of the greatest yes, but the greatest, no way.

 

[fissure man]

I think that is the first time i've heard lawrence taylor mentioned as the best linebacker ever, one of the greatest yes, but the greatest, no way.

You're kidding right?Name three better? Ray Lewis could be mentioned. And....... um.....

 

[spider321]

Ray Lewis can probably be mentioned as a top-10 LB, but LT is THE greatest LB to ever play the game.

FWIW- I agree. Please do not refer to Tomlinson as LT.

On a side note, it always pissed me off when broadcasters referred to Pete Sampras as "Pistol Pete". There is only one "Pistol Pete", and his last name was Maravich.

 

[BassNBrew]

LT! LT! LT!

1st ballot

 

[Chase Stuart]

I think that is the first time i've heard lawrence taylor mentioned as the best linebacker ever, one of the greatest yes, but the greatest, no way.

You're kidding right?Name three better? Ray Lewis could be mentioned. And....... um.....

Comparing the responsibilities of a 4-3 MLB, a 3-4 OLB, a 4-3 OLB and even a 3-4 ILB is a somewhat ridiculous task. Taylor probably had more in common with someone like Jason Taylor than Ray Lewis, despite playing the same position according to football nomenclature.That said, Taylor certainly is in the discussion of best LB of all time. You could make a good argument that he was, but you could do so for about 10 other guys, too. Looking at just in the last 60 years, Chuck Bednarik, Bill George and Joe Schmidt, Bobby Bell, **** Butkus, Jack Ham and Jack Lambert, Mike Singletary, Derrick Brooks, Ray Lewis and Junior Seau. Taylor is unquestionably the best 3-4 OLB of all-time; Derrick Thomas, Pat Swilling, Kevin Greene, Clay Matthews, Greg Lloyd, Andre Tippett, Robert Brazile, Ted Hendricks and Rickey Jackson, among others are all fighting for #2.

 

[Chase Stuart]

Ray Lewis can probably be mentioned as a top-10 LB, but LT is THE greatest LB to ever play the game.FWIW- I agree. Please do not refer to Tomlinson as LT.On a side note, it always pissed me off when broadcasters referred to Pete Sampras as "Pistol Pete". There is only one "Pistol Pete", and his last name was Maravich.

LaDainian Tomlinson is seven syllables. I really don't think it's offending anyone when someone says "LT", which happen to be his initials. If some amazing LT came along with the name Tundricke Orenbachle, I wouldn't be offended if people called him "TO" for short.

 

[fissure man]

I think that is the first time i've heard lawrence taylor mentioned as the best linebacker ever, one of the greatest yes, but the greatest, no way.

You're kidding right?Name three better? Ray Lewis could be mentioned. And....... um.....

Comparing the responsibilities of a 4-3 MLB, a 3-4 OLB, a 4-3 OLB and even a 3-4 ILB is a somewhat ridiculous task. Taylor probably had more in common with someone like Jason Taylor than Ray Lewis, despite playing the same position according to football nomenclature.That said, Taylor certainly is in the discussion of best LB of all time. You could make a good argument that he was, but you could do so for about 10 other guys, too. Looking at just in the last 60 years, Chuck Bednarik, Bill George and Joe Schmidt, Bobby Bell, **** Butkus, Jack Ham and Jack Lambert, Mike Singletary, Derrick Brooks, Ray Lewis and Junior Seau. Taylor is unquestionably the best 3-4 OLB of all-time; Derrick Thomas, Pat Swilling, Kevin Greene, Clay Matthews, Greg Lloyd, Andre Tippett, Robert Brazile, Ted Hendricks and Rickey Jackson, among others are all fighting for #2.

He said best LB of all time, I wasn't implying they played the same position, but thank you for taking the time to explain it to me. You forgot Ray Nitschke

 

[Chase Stuart]

I think that is the first time i've heard lawrence taylor mentioned as the best linebacker ever, one of the greatest yes, but the greatest, no way.

You're kidding right?Name three better? Ray Lewis could be mentioned. And....... um.....

Comparing the responsibilities of a 4-3 MLB, a 3-4 OLB, a 4-3 OLB and even a 3-4 ILB is a somewhat ridiculous task. Taylor probably had more in common with someone like Jason Taylor than Ray Lewis, despite playing the same position according to football nomenclature.That said, Taylor certainly is in the discussion of best LB of all time. You could make a good argument that he was, but you could do so for about 10 other guys, too. Looking at just in the last 60 years, Chuck Bednarik, Bill George and Joe Schmidt, Bobby Bell, **** Butkus, Jack Ham and Jack Lambert, Mike Singletary, Derrick Brooks, Ray Lewis and Junior Seau. Taylor is unquestionably the best 3-4 OLB of all-time; Derrick Thomas, Pat Swilling, Kevin Greene, Clay Matthews, Greg Lloyd, Andre Tippett, Robert Brazile, Ted Hendricks and Rickey Jackson, among others are all fighting for #2.

He said best LB of all time, I wasn't implying they played the same position, but thank you for taking the time to explain it to me. You forgot Ray Nitschke

I was just implying that best linebacker of all-time sounds like something it isn't; it's probably more like "best defensive player of all-time", where you have to figure out how to weigh the value of different positions. The vastly different responsibilities some linebackers have from others makes it worthwhile to separate them out, IMO.Nitschke was a great LB, led some dominant defenses, and is of course in the HOF. But he also played behind two HOF defensive linemen most of his career and in front of two HOF defensive backs, while usually being surrounded by Pro Bowl caliber linebackers. Early in his career, the writers of that time the best MLBs were Schmidt and George; later in his career, Butkus was considered better. It's possible that Nitschke was under-appreciated because of all the talent on Green Bay, but I think most people would probably consider Huff a better MLB, too.

 

[Koya]

I think that is the first time i've heard lawrence taylor mentioned as the best linebacker ever, one of the greatest yes, but the greatest, no way.

While everyone is entitled to their opinion on whom the greatest is, I can't fathom someone who has been into football for more than a couple years with some understanding of its (recent) history to not have heard that he is the best ever. I would venture to see LT is the consensus greatest Linebacker ever and probably gathers more votes for greatest defender ever than any other player.To have never HEARD that LT is the greatest ever is a shock to me, to be honest - regardless whether or not you agree with that supposition.

 

[Koya]

LT! LT! LT!

1st ballot

I believe he was.

 

[Polar Dude]

LT! LT! LT!

1st ballot

I believe he was.

So you clicked on a thread entitled "Ladainian Tomlinson HoF?" and chose to assume he was referencing Lawrence Taylor? You, sir, are extremely clever.

 

[spider321]

LT! LT! LT!

1st ballot

I believe he was.

So you clicked on a thread entitled "Ladainian Tomlinson HoF?" and chose to assume he was referencing Lawrence Taylor? You, sir, are extremely clever.

Tomlinson can have LT2, but "LT" is Lawrence Taylor.

 

[Buffaloes]

Put Tomlinson in that Dallas offense and I bet he has success similar or maybe even better than Emmitt Smith. That OL was ridiculous.

 

[cobalt_27]

First ballot.

I haven't read past this post #2.This is the only answer.

 

[Polar Dude]

Tomlinson can have LT2, but "LT" is Lawrence Taylor.

So only one person in all of football can have a particular set of initials? And do you also believe that all references to "LT" in this thread, that is clearly about Tomlinson, must be pointing to Lawrence Taylor? It isn't difficult to apply a little context.