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Lady Gaga and progressive Christianity (1 Viewer)

I WANT YOUR LOVE AND I WANT YOUR REVENGE YOU AND ME CAN WRITE A BAD ROMANCE WHOOAOAOAOOOOOO
 
YEAH MOTHER####ERS RISE UP!!!  :excited:   :excited:   :excited:  I'm going to the Falcons parade #####es
 
Have to say this SB halftime was mediocre at best at the heals of previous talent, pure yawner.  Like Gaga but she missed the hype.

 
Sure she did a good Gaga show but not up to previous SB standards.  Just seemed off and without energy and true crowd uncoached joy.  Her trip line dives seemed off. Better previous SB performers, yawn factor here tonight.

 
From Paul's letter to the Garoppolans 51: 28-34, "Enter ye not the marketplace, woman, ensconsed in flesh of cud-chewing animals nor dangle ye from the roof of Solomon's Temple on the Sabbath, lest ye be harshly judged"

 
I always liked GaGa and thought she did a good show.  Both GaGa and Brady were very classy tonight and it was refreshing.

 
Great job, I thought it was entertaining.

In the 2010s there have been multi-act halftime shows for six straight years. The last time only one artist/band performed was the The Who in 2010.

I also liked the subtlety of her political statements - This Land is Your Land and Born This Way with no commentary.

 
tommyboy said:
I find it hard to believe she's very religious
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Like others, I'm sure there is an erudite explanation for this opinion and I'm anxious to hear it.

I'm wary in general of organized religion but it's at least a little reassuring to know that not all Christians are right wingers.

 
roadkill1292 said:
I'm wary in general of organized religion but it's at least a little reassuring to know that not all Christians are right wingers.
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One thing I've learned from the FFA over the years is that non-Christians often have a warped impression of what Christianity is about.  That's not entirely their fault.  The most vocal and visible Christians tend to be the right-wing evangelicals.  That's certainly not a small group of people, but those folks aren't completely representative of everybody.

 
Maurile Tremblay said:
And while there may be a role for believing certain things on faith, that role is pretty narrow, IMO. It's almost always better to go with the available evidence rather than against it.
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That's not the way faith works. It's binary. You believe or you don't. You don't pick and choose based on hard evidence at hand.

Captain Cranks said:
I'm OK with strong religious convictions as long as it's paired with a humility that those convictions should remain personal and not impact the lives of others. 
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Absolutely agree.

 
roadkill1292 said:
Like others, I'm sure there is an erudite explanation for this opinion and I'm anxious to hear it.

I'm wary in general of organized religion but it's at least a little reassuring to know that not all Christians are right wingers.
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its not due to her politics, there are tons of liberal christians.    Many non religious people might find this hard to believe but the liberal-conservative exchange of ideas doesn't stop within religion.    

the statement tim posted was that she was very religious,    she just doesn't come across to me that way is all.   she might be religious but when I think of VERY  i think of nuns.

 
tommyboy said:
its not due to her politics, there are tons of liberal christians.    Many non religious people might find this hard to believe but the liberal-conservative exchange of ideas doesn't stop within religion.    

the statement tim posted was that she was very religious,    she just doesn't come across to me that way is all.   she might be religious but when I think of VERY  i think of nuns.
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Like in her mind, I won't burn for all eternity, I'll just be say.....forced to listen to Nickelback in a cell with Eminence for all eternity?

 
timschochet said:
Interesting article on Lady Gaga in advance of today's halftime show: 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2017/02/05/the-gospel-according-to-lady-gaga/?client=safari

She is a very progressive, very religious Christian, which doesn't fit in today's society. Secularist fans and religious right critics both tend to ignore her deep faith. 

Meanwhile, the NRA is warning her not to criticize Trump during her show. I'm sure she'll take that to heart. 
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Whatever you smoke/snort/drink/inject, I want some of that.

 
IvanKaramazov said:
One thing I've learned from the FFA over the years is that non-Christians often have a warped impression of what Christianity is about.  That's not entirely their fault.  The most vocal and visible Christians tend to be the right-wing evangelicals.  That's certainly not a small group of people, but those folks aren't completely representative of everybody.
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My notebook is horrible but from discussions years ago, you're Catholic, right? Just curious. We have a few Jesuits in the family. I guess her background is Catholic.

Is being a Selfist or Selfism a religion? Seems like that aligns more closely to her belief system than any organized religion.

"It’s more self-worship, I think, not of me. I’m teaching people to worship themselves."
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Seems like from what I can find she is a Univeralist, right? Essentially believers everyone goes to heaven. Rejects institutional religion. I'd agree with her on the latter, religion stinks & gets in the way of the relationship.

At other times she has self-identified as Christian during interviews. I thought this short article was pretty insightful - she has a really thoughtful response to an article about her faith (& Curry...could apply to Bieber or whoever.)

http://www.relevantmagazine.com/slices/lady-gaga-defends-her-catholic-faith-after-posting-image-priest

I guess in timschochet's world view of putting a label on everyone, I'd fit into the Progressive Christian box. Most people in our church, which is evangelistic & pentecostal, are very liberal. We had a race relations panel discussion last July & one of the panelists was a BLM founder who attends. I was for Sanders & am a registered democrat.

I was at a SB party last night with about 40-50 young professionals from our congregation. They were singing every word of her lyrics & dancing during the halftime show. Born This Way is a great anthem a lot of millennials identify with & reflects our oft-stated mantra "you don't have to believe what we do just to come here."

Our house of worship has a traditional biblical view of marriage, sexuality, identity, but you might not immediately realize that looking around the venue. We have many LBGT members, several male cross dressers, whatever. We have a policy they cannot be in leadership but they are welcome to attend & many volunteer every week. Our pastors only preach positive messages, and will not condemn anyone from the pulpit.

We have a few FFAers who vitriolic in any discussion of religion. I suppose it has the desired effect - most believers outside of Paddington are too intimidated to engage in any theological discussion.

I highly doubt I'm the only guy here who thinks Jesus was God incarnate or the Bible is the story of Gods unfolding plan of redemption. But in the FFA weltanschauung, there's no room for that discussion. 

 
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