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A 3rd round pick from two years ago? Yeah you can't waive the white flag on that.
He has some value because he is still a starter on an NFL team, but to say you can't cut bait with a guy because you paid a 3rd rounder two years ago is funny.
This is the same thing as said last year. No one thinks Thomas is worth a damn, and he isn't in fantasy terms, but he does threaten Miller's value. Several times last season, Thomas cut into Miller's carries by 10. These weren't games where the starting RB was sitting because the team was ahead. These were losses and close games. We read last season that multiple coaches have been prodding Miller to win the job over, and he doesn't. If the Dolphins didn't have so many OL problems, I would have expected them to take a new RB in the 2nd. Maybe in 2014. For now, Miller can keep trying to win the job, but he needs a tougher mentality or something.
It is either the price he paid or that Lamar is still a starting rb in the nfl. One of those two.A 3rd round pick from two years ago? Yeah you can't waive the white flag on that.
It's both. A lot of people in dynasty leagues seem to value draft position a great deal. Far more than they should IMO. Had Miller been drafted in the first a few years ago you could trade him for more IMO. Given he was a flyer back then it will still linger in people's minds today and you won't get squat for him.It is either the price he paid or that Lamar is still a starting rb in the nfl. One of those two.A 3rd round pick from two years ago? Yeah you can't waive the white flag on that.
As of today, Miller has the better opportunity (will get more touches) and has a stronger track record (not saying much, I know, but it is true). Add in Wilson's injury and I don't really even see much of a debate. Plus, the Giants' Oline in about to get shaky with Diehl gone (retiring?) and a decision needing to be made on Snee.
I'd actually take Wilson -- he's still a complete unknown for the most part. I've seen enough of Miller to know that it's pretty unlikely he's ever more than a change of pace speed RB. You can't sustain a rushing attack with a RB that can't run through first contact. Miller is Jerious Norwood v2.0 IMO. Fast, limited laterally, zero power.
I agree it's a terrible time to trade him - wait for him to have a big game and get rid of Tatum Bell.
That coaching staff that is the same staff as last year?
Still not droppable IMO assuming standard dynasty settings with 80+ RBs rostered. No reason he can't be a decent bye week / bench RB in a COP / big play role, which is where he fits best anyway. And he's still probably got some true believers out there who think that with Sherman gone he'll be given a chance to carry the load.Shutout said:
This is the point that people are missing. I think Lamar Miller sucks, and have argued with the pro-Miller folks long and hard going back to when he was in college. But it's incredibly short-sighted and reactionary to bail on any player when his value is as low as Miller's is. Come on people, you don't cut a guy you likely just paid a ton for last offseason.
I got him for WR Marlon Brown. Semi-turd for semi-turd and I'll wait and see. He did average 5.5 ypc with the previous regime on limited carries.
I keep thinking back to that Patriots game where he had a solid first half and the Dolphins had the lead. Then inexplicably in the second half he got like four carries (or less) and the Dolphins deservedly lost the game.
This is why a new OC can be a big change for Lamar. Maybe not, if Philbin was part of the decision to limit his carries.When you have a bottom tier qb, you have to establish a ground game.
Having a new OC is a positive and the OL will not be worse (new OL coach too). Best thing is to hope Miami signs a couple players on the OL and you can unload before they draft another back.
