Lamont Jordan (1 Viewer)

[tvaldivi]

I am very pleased with the way Lamont is playing this season. In my 16 team league I was counting on him to be my #3 back and boy is he bringing in some big points for me, unfortunately I am sitting at 1-2 (double header weeks) despite having two excellent scoring weeks from my team, just some bad luck playing others with great weeks. What I'm wondering is if Lamont's touches will be significantly reduced when Dominc Rhodes comes back and if so, is it a good time to sell high on Lamont. I really am torn on this one.

 

[Garts]

I am very pleased with the way Lamont is playing this season. In my 16 team league I was counting on him to be my #3 back and boy is he bringing in some big points for me, unfortunately I am sitting at 1-2 (double header weeks) despite having two excellent scoring weeks from my team, just some bad luck playing others with great weeks. What I'm wondering is if Lamont's touches will be significantly reduced when Dominc Rhodes comes back and if so, is it a good time to sell high on Lamont. I really am torn on this one.

Well, Lamont is better tne Rhodes AND playing great...what is there to worry about. Fargas will be the one without touches.

 

[gman8343]

His role will be the starting RB for the Raiders. The guy has performed extremely well so far. I don't see Rhodes having a shot at taking his job, though certainly he could spell him I guess.

 

[Penguin]

Rhodes looked significantly better than Jordan in pre-season. Had it not been for the suspension (which the Raiders were fully aware of the possibility before picking Rhodes up) Rhodes would have been the starter week one. True, Jordan has looked good so far, but I believe they will start off in a committee when Rhodes is back and go with the hot hand week to week. Jordan is not guaranteed anything at this point.

 

[CalBear]

Rhodes looked significantly better than Jordan in pre-season. Had it not been for the suspension (which the Raiders were fully aware of the possibility before picking Rhodes up) Rhodes would have been the starter week one. True, Jordan has looked good so far, but I believe they will start off in a committee when Rhodes is back and go with the hot hand week to week. Jordan is not guaranteed anything at this point.

Rhodes only looked better than Jordan in pre-season if you ignored both the stats and the actual game film. Seriously, what planet were you watching from?Edit to add: Jordan, 28/126/2 (4.5 ypc) in the pre-season, almost exclusively against starting defenses.Rhodes, 23/55/1 (2.4 ypc), almost exclusively against scrubs.

 

[LHUCKS]

I think he'll lose some touches but not many...Rhodes is not as good as Jordan, regardless of what we saw in the preseason.

Jordan plays hard when he wants to play hard and that time wasn't in the preseason...now that it counts, you're seeing the same Jordan as we saw in '05...tough, powerful runner that has surprising agility and great hands.

Sometimes you have to play the role of psychologist to figure these guys out.

 

[LHUCKS]

Rhodes looked significantly better than Jordan in pre-season. Had it not been for the suspension (which the Raiders were fully aware of the possibility before picking Rhodes up) Rhodes would have been the starter week one. True, Jordan has looked good so far, but I believe they will start off in a committee when Rhodes is back and go with the hot hand week to week. Jordan is not guaranteed anything at this point.

Rhodes only looked better than Jordan in pre-season if you ignored both the stats and the actual game film. Seriously, what planet were you watching from?

I'd have to go back and look at my notes, but in the beginning of preseason Rhodes looked better, but near the end Jordan looked better...off the top of my head.

 

[Penguin]

Jordan's 25 carries for 159 yards in pre season week 4 should probably be omitted from this discussion. He played the entire game, I'm pretty sure it wasn't against the #1 defense.

 

[1970's Oakland Raiders Secondary]

Jordan's 25 carries for 159 yards in pre season week 4 should probably be omitted from this discussion. He played the entire game, I'm pretty sure it wasn't against the #1 defense.

"Omitted from this discussion"? You're the one who included it in the first place. You said the "pre-season". If you didn't mean it, you should have said the first 3 weeks in the 2nd half of games of the preseason, Rhodes looked better.

 

[Penguin]

Jordan's 25 carries for 159 yards in pre season week 4 should probably be omitted from this discussion. He played the entire game, I'm pretty sure it wasn't against the #1 defense.

"Omitted from this discussion"? You're the one who included it in the first place. You said the "pre-season". If you didn't mean it, you should have said the first 3 weeks in the 2nd half of games of the preseason, Rhodes looked better.

Rhodes was out there in the first quarter, not the 2nd half or 4th quarter. The other poster was saying that all of Jordan's carries & yardage were against starters. Do you really believe starters were playing in week 4, much past the 1st series? But whatever you want to believe. Lamont Jordan is the next coming of Bo Jackson :X If anyone could recognize that Jordan wasn't the best back on the team you'd think it would be a homer.

 

[David Yudkin]

Jordan is currently second in the league in yards from scrimmage with 318 yards, one yard behind Travis Henry. I can't imagine taking a lot of touches away from him unless he started performing at a much lower level.

 

[zamboni]

Lamont has definitely impressed me. I thought we'd never again see the guy that looked so good backing up Curtis Martin and, on several occasions, in 2005. He seems like he's running with a purpose now that the fire (e.g., possible loss of job) has been lit under him.

 

[Duke1948]

Jordan is currently second in the league in yards from scrimmage with 318 yards, one yard behind Travis Henry. I can't imagine taking a lot of touches away from him unless he started performing at a much lower level.

finally a voice of reason.....

 

[thetman]

Rhodes averaged something like 3.3 per carry last year. He's a bum. Jordan is the man.

 

[mdog1967]

Jordan's 25 carries for 159 yards in pre season week 4 should probably be omitted from this discussion. He played the entire game, I'm pretty sure it wasn't against the #1 defense.

"Omitted from this discussion"? You're the one who included it in the first place. You said the "pre-season". If you didn't mean it, you should have said the first 3 weeks in the 2nd half of games of the preseason, Rhodes looked better.

Rhodes was out there in the first quarter, not the 2nd half or 4th quarter. The other poster was saying that all of Jordan's carries & yardage were against starters. Do you really believe starters were playing in week 4, much past the 1st series? But whatever you want to believe. Lamont Jordan is the next coming of Bo Jackson If anyone could recognize that Jordan wasn't the best back on the team you'd think it would be a homer.

Rhodes has never shown Starting Running Back potential, he is a career backup. The Raiders had no choice but to go out and find a seasoned vet to back up Jordan after last year. But lets wait and see, Short of Injury by week 7 we wont have to discuss this anymore. If your spent a pick on Rhodes or you own him in a dynasty, well what can I say. Rhodes is Rhodes. Rhodes is what he is and if he was anything more the Colts would not have went out and drafted Addai. Did Rhodes play well in the super bowl, yeap and the Colts still made little effort to keep him. There are reasons why teams let Co-MVP Superbowl players move on.

 

[Da Guru]

Jordon 75% Rhodes 25%

Jordon was coming off an injury when the Radiers signed Rhodes. It appears he has healed.

 

[denveredge]

Jordon 75% Rhodes 25%Jordon was coming off an injury when the Radiers signed Rhodes. It appears he has healed.

I was at the bronco game yesterday and Jordan looked great, many times he looked finished and just kept going. The only worry I see is if you wasted a pick on Fargas as garts mentioned earlier.

 

[Cookiemonster]

I can see Rhodes being the 3rd down back, as Jordan is clearly a better runner but Rhodes is an equal in the blocking department and that will save Jordan from taking a lot of big hits from blitzing LBs, and for those who say Jordan catches well out of the backfield, get past the stat lines. He's got below average hands, just tons of opportunities. I think Rhoads is in the top 1/2 of 3rd down candidates and Jordan needs the relief to hold up for the long run. I see a benefit to Jordan who may see a slight drop in his game-to-game production but may leave him healthier as the season progresses.

If you can't afford to lose 2-3 ppg on Jordan, sell high. I thik he's worth holding, and tryin to nab Rhodes real cheap after a couple weeks of 3-4 fppg if your roster can hold a solid handcuff.

 

[Cool in the pocket]

I can see Rhodes being the 3rd down back, as Jordan is clearly a better runner but Rhodes is an equal in the blocking department and that will save Jordan from taking a lot of big hits from blitzing LBs, and for those who say Jordan catches well out of the backfield, get past the stat lines. He's got below average hands, just tons of opportunities. I think Rhoads is in the top 1/2 of 3rd down candidates and Jordan needs the relief to hold up for the long run. I see a benefit to Jordan who may see a slight drop in his game-to-game production but may leave him healthier as the season progresses.If you can't afford to lose 2-3 ppg on Jordan, sell high. I thik he's worth holding, and tryin to nab Rhodes real cheap after a couple weeks of 3-4 fppg if your roster can hold a solid handcuff.

As Yudkin pointed out, Jordan is second in yards from scrimmage so far. Rhodes will take backup and relief touches at most until Jordan produce at a lower clip. If he has below average hands, why do they keep throwing the ball to him--he did have 70 catches 2 years ago. Half the battle is opps. He put up solid numbers against a weak D in Detroit and a decent one in Denver. Unless you fear injury, I see no reason why you trade the #2 yardage RB who you prolly drafted in the 6th round or later. He's more than likely outproducing half of the first round RB's right now, especially in PPR. Oakland's WR's are below average and Jordan provides a nice outlet.

 

[JerseyEagles]

I can see Rhodes being the 3rd down back, as Jordan is clearly a better runner but Rhodes is an equal in the blocking department and that will save Jordan from taking a lot of big hits from blitzing LBs, and for those who say Jordan catches well out of the backfield, get past the stat lines. He's got below average hands, just tons of opportunities. I think Rhoads is in the top 1/2 of 3rd down candidates and Jordan needs the relief to hold up for the long run. I see a benefit to Jordan who may see a slight drop in his game-to-game production but may leave him healthier as the season progresses.

If you can't afford to lose 2-3 ppg on Jordan, sell high. I thik he's worth holding, and tryin to nab Rhodes real cheap after a couple weeks of 3-4 fppg if your roster can hold a solid handcuff.

As Yudkin pointed out, Jordan is second in yards from scrimmage so far. Rhodes will take backup and relief touches at most until Jordan produce at a lower clip. If he has below average hands, why do they keep throwing the ball to him--he did have 70 catches 2 years ago. Half the battle is opps. He put up solid numbers against a weak D in Detroit and a decent one in Denver. Unless you fear injury, I see no reason why you trade the #2 yardage RB who you prolly drafted in the 6th round or later. He's more than likely outproducing half of the first round RB's right now, especially in PPR. Oakland's WR's are below average and Jordan provides a nice outlet.

How about the 15th round? Crazy, talk about a value pick. I'm sure most everyone is thanking there lucky stars for nabbing him too, whenever they go their hands on him.

 

[Cool in the pocket]

I can see Rhodes being the 3rd down back, as Jordan is clearly a better runner but Rhodes is an equal in the blocking department and that will save Jordan from taking a lot of big hits from blitzing LBs, and for those who say Jordan catches well out of the backfield, get past the stat lines. He's got below average hands, just tons of opportunities. I think Rhoads is in the top 1/2 of 3rd down candidates and Jordan needs the relief to hold up for the long run. I see a benefit to Jordan who may see a slight drop in his game-to-game production but may leave him healthier as the season progresses.

If you can't afford to lose 2-3 ppg on Jordan, sell high. I thik he's worth holding, and tryin to nab Rhodes real cheap after a couple weeks of 3-4 fppg if your roster can hold a solid handcuff.

As Yudkin pointed out, Jordan is second in yards from scrimmage so far. Rhodes will take backup and relief touches at most until Jordan produce at a lower clip. If he has below average hands, why do they keep throwing the ball to him--he did have 70 catches 2 years ago. Half the battle is opps. He put up solid numbers against a weak D in Detroit and a decent one in Denver. Unless you fear injury, I see no reason why you trade the #2 yardage RB who you prolly drafted in the 6th round or later. He's more than likely outproducing half of the first round RB's right now, especially in PPR. Oakland's WR's are below average and Jordan provides a nice outlet.

How about the 15th round? Crazy, talk about a value pick. I'm sure most everyone is thanking there lucky stars for nabbing him too, whenever they go their hands on him. :(

Well, it's still a little early for anointing him the one of the SOD, but he is outplaying his draft spot by a ton regardless of where you drafted him.

 

[BassNBrew]

I think he'll lose some touches but not many...Rhodes is not as good as Jordan, regardless of what we saw in the preseason. Jordan plays hard when he wants to play hard and that time wasn't in the preseason...now that it counts, you're seeing the same Jordan as we saw in '05...tough, powerful runner that has surprising agility and great hands.Sometimes you have to play the role of psychologist to figure these guys out.

Or just apply some common sense and logic. For those who graduated from a LAC10 school you can just take notes from the fbg survivor drafts.

 

[Cookiemonster]

I can see Rhodes being the 3rd down back, as Jordan is clearly a better runner but Rhodes is an equal in the blocking department and that will save Jordan from taking a lot of big hits from blitzing LBs, and for those who say Jordan catches well out of the backfield, get past the stat lines. He's got below average hands, just tons of opportunities. I think Rhoads is in the top 1/2 of 3rd down candidates and Jordan needs the relief to hold up for the long run. I see a benefit to Jordan who may see a slight drop in his game-to-game production but may leave him healthier as the season progresses.

If you can't afford to lose 2-3 ppg on Jordan, sell high. I thik he's worth holding, and tryin to nab Rhodes real cheap after a couple weeks of 3-4 fppg if your roster can hold a solid handcuff.

As Yudkin pointed out, Jordan is second in yards from scrimmage so far. Rhodes will take backup and relief touches at most until Jordan produce at a lower clip. If he has below average hands, why do they keep throwing the ball to him--he did have 70 catches 2 years ago. Half the battle is opps. He put up solid numbers against a weak D in Detroit and a decent one in Denver. Unless you fear injury, I see no reason why you trade the #2 yardage RB who you prolly drafted in the 6th round or later. He's more than likely outproducing half of the first round RB's right now, especially in PPR. Oakland's WR's are below average and Jordan provides a nice outlet.

I'm talking about real football, and why Rhodes will probably be a 3rd down back upon his return. He gets so many opps because of Turner's offense in '05 and it looks like Kiffen is very similar. That and the fact that Porter can't get open and QBs haven't been able to wait for routes to develop downfield.I'm not saying get rid of Jordan, I'm saying I expect him to take a hit of 2-3 fppg upon Rhodes' return. I'm saying that this is an opportunity to sell high right now, not sell at all costs. Personally, I'd hold him unless he's #3 of 4 startable RBs on your team. If you can get a top 7 WR for him and still have viable options @ RB, you do it before he's only worth a top 15 WR.

 

[Whiplash Inc.]

I expect Rhodes to supplant Fargas as the team's #2 RB and share time with Jordan as the 3rd down back. Either way, barring injuries, I highly doubt Jordan will loose much of the carries to Rhodes if he keeps this level of play going.

 

[Toomuchnv]

If you want to know what Dominic Rhodes stats will be just look at Justin Fargas the first 2 games and switch names starting week 6(raiders have a bye week 5) Barring injury of course.

For those that are saying Rhodes had a better preseason than Jordan. That is completely false. I watched every preseason raider game and Jordan looked more impressive than Rhodes. You could tell Jordan was playing for his job.

 

[Toomuchnv]

Jordan's 25 carries for 159 yards in pre season week 4 should probably be omitted from this discussion. He played the entire game, I'm pretty sure it wasn't against the #1 defense.

L.Jordan preseason week 4: 2 carries 18 yds(all on the first series)and for the record...neither player got a single carry or reception in the 2nd half of any preseason game. Here is the breakdown...not that preseason stats mean a ton:Game 1(against Arizona):Rhodes-8 car 21yds, 1 rec 10 yds and 1 TDJordan-DNP due to back injuryGame 2(against SF):Rhodes-5 car 5yds, 1 rec 8ydsJordan- 8 car 67yds 1 rec 19yds 1 TDGame 3(against StL):Jordan- 18 car 41yds, 1 rec 49yds 1 TD and 1 goalline fumble lostRhodes-DNP(I am thinking due to the fact he was going to miss the first 4 games and they wanted to get Jordan into game shape since he missed a lot of training camp and the first game due to the back injury)Game 4(against Seattle):Rhodes- 10 car 29yds, 2 rec 1yd.(Was stuffed on 1 series on 3rd and 1 AND 4th and 1. Also was tackled for a safety on a run from the 1 yard line.)Jordan- 2 car 18yds. All on the first series.As I said from a previous post. Jordan definitely looked like the better back in the preseason and the way he has played the first 2 games of the regular season I can't imagine Rhodes taking too much away from. Again, I think Rhodes probably just takes Fargas' carries. If something were to happen to Jordan I could easily see Fargas/Rhodes splitting time....

 

[Whiplash Inc.]

If you want to know what Dominic Rhodes stats will be just look at Justin Fargas the first 2 games and switch names starting week 6(raiders have a bye week 5) Barring injury of course.

 

[Cool in the pocket]

I can see Rhodes being the 3rd down back, as Jordan is clearly a better runner but Rhodes is an equal in the blocking department and that will save Jordan from taking a lot of big hits from blitzing LBs, and for those who say Jordan catches well out of the backfield, get past the stat lines. He's got below average hands, just tons of opportunities. I think Rhoads is in the top 1/2 of 3rd down candidates and Jordan needs the relief to hold up for the long run. I see a benefit to Jordan who may see a slight drop in his game-to-game production but may leave him healthier as the season progresses.

If you can't afford to lose 2-3 ppg on Jordan, sell high. I thik he's worth holding, and tryin to nab Rhodes real cheap after a couple weeks of 3-4 fppg if your roster can hold a solid handcuff.

As Yudkin pointed out, Jordan is second in yards from scrimmage so far. Rhodes will take backup and relief touches at most until Jordan produce at a lower clip. If he has below average hands, why do they keep throwing the ball to him--he did have 70 catches 2 years ago. Half the battle is opps. He put up solid numbers against a weak D in Detroit and a decent one in Denver. Unless you fear injury, I see no reason why you trade the #2 yardage RB who you prolly drafted in the 6th round or later. He's more than likely outproducing half of the first round RB's right now, especially in PPR. Oakland's WR's are below average and Jordan provides a nice outlet.

I'm talking about real football, and why Rhodes will probably be a 3rd down back upon his return. He gets so many opps because of Turner's offense in '05 and it looks like Kiffen is very similar. That and the fact that Porter can't get open and QBs haven't been able to wait for routes to develop downfield.I'm not saying get rid of Jordan, I'm saying I expect him to take a hit of 2-3 fppg upon Rhodes' return. I'm saying that this is an opportunity to sell high right now, not sell at all costs. Personally, I'd hold him unless he's #3 of 4 startable RBs on your team. If you can get a top 7 WR for him and still have viable options @ RB, you do it before he's only worth a top 15 WR.

If you can sell anyone that you don't think will continue producing at their current pace for someone of equal or more value you do it--that's what everyone wants to do, right? Everyone's team is unique, but it seems likely that the majority of folks will have drafted Jordan as an RB 3 or higher and he has borderline RB1 upside in him. I'm just saying their is no logic behind thinking Rhodes will take any touches away from Jordan given what he has put up so far. It's possible Jordan will take a 2-3 fppg game hit, but it won't be because of Rhodes, it'll be because of Jordan.