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Briggs contract negotiations broke down in April when he and agent Drew Rosenhaus (gulp) were asking for Urlacher money (more even).
Keep tabs on this situation for the long term picture at WLB.
Hillenmeyer was only re-signed to a one year deal, and im not sure he fits in the long term plans.
Keep tabs on this situation for the long term picture at WLB.
Hillenmeyer was only re-signed to a one year deal, and im not sure he fits in the long term plans.
boubucarow
Footballguy
Williams would be hard pressed to become a quality will linebacker in the cover 2 system. I think that replacing Hillenmeyer at strongside will happen sooner rather than later but that would most likely be his future. Leon Joe is a decent option at will down the line but I see the Bears addressing this position in the draft or free agency next offseason if Briggs is not resigned.
Mr. Peterson
Footballguy
Is there any chance for a hold out?
boubucarow
Footballguy
There has been no talk of holding out from Briggs or Rosenhaus as of yet. He has one year left before becoming an unrestricted free agent.
Williams can play all three positions, and has the skills to possibly stay on the field in passing down packages (long term). While he is not the automatic successor to briggs in the event that he leaves, he's certainly a player that would get a shot at the job, assuming his development goes well. I wouldnt anoint him the next big thing, but I certainly wouldnt dismiss him either.
boubucarow
Footballguy
It seems as though Briggs might be skipping Bears mini-camp. He did not take his physcial according to the NFL Network.
Miggity
not a phallus
boubucarow
Footballguy
He did end up reporting to mini-camp but Thomas Jones and Briggs are in sketchy situations with the team right now. I don't think there will be a problem come Week 1 but it is worth keeping an eye on.
pretender
Footballguy
KFFL
Bears | L. Briggs practices with second unit
Fri, 2 Jun 2006 16:19:16 -0700
Larry Mayer, of ChicagoBears.com, reports Chicago Bears LB Lance Briggs practiced with his teammates Friday, June 2 at the team's minicamp. "It was good to have our entire group on the football field," head coach Lovie Smith said following a two-hour practice. Briggs worked with the second team Friday behind LB Leon Joe. "We have a starting rotation," Smith said. "In order to be at the top of the starting rotation, you have to be here. So that's how it is. Leon Joe worked with the ones at the linebacker position and we'll go from there."
Bears | L. Briggs practices with second unit
Fri, 2 Jun 2006 16:19:16 -0700
Larry Mayer, of ChicagoBears.com, reports Chicago Bears LB Lance Briggs practiced with his teammates Friday, June 2 at the team's minicamp. "It was good to have our entire group on the football field," head coach Lovie Smith said following a two-hour practice. Briggs worked with the second team Friday behind LB Leon Joe. "We have a starting rotation," Smith said. "In order to be at the top of the starting rotation, you have to be here. So that's how it is. Leon Joe worked with the ones at the linebacker position and we'll go from there."
cracKer
Shawn Culcasi
FBG Bolgger
LB J. Williams Put On IR
Yahoo.com - [Full Article]
The Chicago Bears placed rookie LB Jamar Williams on the IR Tuesday after hurting his shouldler during Sunday's game at Minnesota. LB Rod Wilson was signed from the practice squad to replace him.
LB J. Williams Put On IR
Yahoo.com - [Full Article]
The Chicago Bears placed rookie LB Jamar Williams on the IR Tuesday after hurting his shouldler during Sunday's game at Minnesota. LB Rod Wilson was signed from the practice squad to replace him.
chook
Footballguy
So with Okwo now in town, it sounds like this what FBG IDPers should be doing:
1) Hold on to Jamar Williams for now in case Briggs does hold out for half the season (or traded).
2) Draft Okwo late to have Chicago's WLB when Briggs leaves at the end of the season if Williams is a dud.
1) Hold on to Jamar Williams for now in case Briggs does hold out for half the season (or traded).
2) Draft Okwo late to have Chicago's WLB when Briggs leaves at the end of the season if Williams is a dud.
May compete. While there is a little bit of FBG love around for Okwo, do any of you guys think he can beat Williams before Williams even gets his shot? He was drafted 25 spots higher than Williams, but the latter obviously has a year in the system. This link has Lovie saying:
At the same time, Lovie comments about their size (Owko 5-11, 232 / Williams 6-0, 234)
These two seem very simliar but one of them has to win out eventually. OZ and Jene have previously been on record in this forum saying that Williams doesn't have the talent and would simply be a product of the system, likely a one-year filler at that. Conversely, everything on Okwo seems to suggest the kid can play so my money is on him to be this years' Keiaho.......which I'm sure means a lot since I've only ever read about Owko and never seen him play
Tick
Footballguy
I'm on the lookout for places where you have to waste two roster spots on a position where nobody knows who'll win. In Zealots where it's possible to hold extra players between the rookie draft and the regular season, it makes sense to go for these situations. This one fits the bill - both players are cheap right now and the winner could be really valuable.So with Okwo now in town, it sounds like this what FBG IDPers should be doing:
1) Hold on to Jamar Williams for now in case Briggs does hold out for half the season (or traded).
2) Draft Okwo late to have Chicago's WLB when Briggs leaves at the end of the season if Williams is a dud.
May compete. While there is a little bit of FBG love around for Okwo, do any of you guys think he can beat Williams before Williams even gets his shot? He was drafted 25 spots higher than Williams, but the latter obviously has a year in the system. This link has Lovie saying:
At the same time, Lovie comments about their size (Owko 5-11, 232 / Williams 6-0, 234)These two seem very simliar but one of them has to win out eventually. OZ and Jene have previously been on record in this forum saying that Williams doesn't have the talent and would simply be a product of the system, likely a one-year filler at that. Conversely, everything on Okwo seems to suggest the kid can play so my money is on him to be this years' Keiaho.......which I'm sure means a lot since I've only ever read about Owko and never seen him play
Any others out there? Last year I lucked out with SJones/BPool and flopped with Kiel/Hart. I still like the idea since you can often get these guys off the scrap heap or late in the rookie draft.
KellysHeroes
Footballguy
This just shows some people who post here have no clue as to what is going on in the football world..someone want to help him out.
fantasylifer
Footballguy
KellysHeroes
Footballguy
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
I knew there was a reason no one jumped on him...
why bring this back then..
Just start a new one
I knew there was a reason no one jumped on him...
why bring this back then..
Just start a new one
Burning Sensation
Footballguy
Ruffrodys05
IBL Representative
June 26, 2007, per Len Pasquarelli, ESPN
Bears Holding Firm With LB Briggs
FBG News Blogger Summary:
Even though the Chicago Bears have recently signed cornerback Nathan Vasher to a 5-year, $28 million contract extension and it is believed they have offered a similar deal to CB Charles Tillman, there has been no change in the teams negotiating stance with disgruntled linebacker Lance Briggs. Chicago has not budged from a one-year qualifying offer for their franchise linebacker, a tender that carries a price tag of $7.206 million. A much more pressing priority for the Bears is a long-term extension for defensive tackle Tommie Harris, who has 2 years remaining on his rookie deal signed in 2004.
Bears Holding Firm With LB Briggs
FBG News Blogger Summary:
Even though the Chicago Bears have recently signed cornerback Nathan Vasher to a 5-year, $28 million contract extension and it is believed they have offered a similar deal to CB Charles Tillman, there has been no change in the teams negotiating stance with disgruntled linebacker Lance Briggs. Chicago has not budged from a one-year qualifying offer for their franchise linebacker, a tender that carries a price tag of $7.206 million. A much more pressing priority for the Bears is a long-term extension for defensive tackle Tommie Harris, who has 2 years remaining on his rookie deal signed in 2004.
DenverBroncos
Footballguy
It's all about Okwo at the WLB in Chicago!
Warpig
Footballguy
I'm hoping so. But I'm not too optimistic. There have been several articles stating how well Williams has looked in the WLB spot while running with the first unit.
chook
Footballguy
Warpig
Footballguy
This isn't the link I read when I posted my message, but this is from the Chicago Tribune and it is actually a little more informative than the one I read.Link - http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sp...bears-headlines?That link guy has too much of an angry face.
bcr8f
Footballguy
Wishful thinking. They like Williams in Chicago and he has been in the system.
chook
Footballguy
Yeah there was a few articles around with this particular story a month ago. I thought something new may have come about since. Cheers thoughThis isn't the link I read when I posted my message, but this is from the Chicago Tribune and it is actually a little more informative than the one I read.Link - http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sp...bears-headlines
bcr8f
Footballguy
Haven't really seen anything but them saying Okwo is much like Jamar Williams.chook said:Yeah there was a few articles around with this particular story a month ago. I thought something new may have come about since. Cheers thoughWarpig said:This isn't the link I read when I posted my message, but this is from the Chicago Tribune and it is actually a little more informative than the one I read.Link - http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sp...bears-headlines?That link guy has too much of an angry face.
Penguin
Footballguy
I can't understand how they feel this will help Briggs longterm
lions327
Footballguy
That was just "agent speak". Personally, I believe Briggs will be there in week 1.
stevegamer
Footballguy
Rosenhaus doesn't always make the best moves - but realistically, Briggs can hold out. When it comes down to the carrot or the stick, I don't see Rosenhaus as a carrot user, so he'll use the stick. He's got a stick, and is using it.
lions327
Footballguy
Briggs doesn't have any leverage. The Bears are not going to extend his contract and they know it. They aren't going to trade him. The Bears will easily win the division with or without Briggs. If he sat out, he would be playing when it mattered...the playoffs. I don't see the Bears being overly concerned about this situation. The only thing that will happen if he sits out is he will lose about 4-5 million dollars.
bcr8f
Footballguy
Substitute TO for Briggs and you will see Roesenhaus' hardball tactics often hurt the players instead of helping them.
bcr8f
Footballguy
Well of course. A few of my 37 LB'ers have to be in the top 40.I agree with Lovie. They are close and both in the mix.reread post 13 and check the references there.May be wishful thinking from a Williams owner
He has a lot of talent,” Smith said. “He’s what we’re looking for at that (weakside) linebacker position. He doesn’t have great size, but he has skill, good quickness, good speed, his change of direction is real good and he’s been a playmaker. We’re anxious to put him into the mix.”
Starting nine games last season as a senior, Okwo registered 95 tackles, five tackles for loss and two sacks.
The 5-11, 232-pounder compares favorably with 2006 fourth-round pick Jamar Williams, a 6-foot, 234-pounder who missed the final 13 games of his rookie season with a ruptured pectoral muscle.
“They are (similar),” Smith said, “and that’s the prototype that we’re looking for at that position. Most of them are (close to) 6-feet. They have some defensive back skills as far as their movement and they have a little bit of strength.”
Achilles
Footballguy
If Briggs doesn't hold out into the regular season, he and Rosenhaus lose a lot of credibility and future leverage. Briggs may not care as this may be his last huge contract extension, but I would guess that unless the Bears budge, Rosenhaus will strongly discourage Briggs from ending his holdout earlier than the first few weeks into the season.
lions327
Footballguy
Of course Rosenhaus is going to tell him to sit out. Rosenhaus doesn't lose any money if Briggs sits out. Briggs has nothing to gain by sitting out because the Bears are not going to give him a long term deal and he knows it. This is just talk now because it isn't costing him anything to talk now. It will cost a lot to sit out during the season, with no real benefit to it. It would be different if there was a possibility of the Bears offering him a long term deal, or if the money long term was an obstacle. But they don't want to sign him long term, so Briggs has no leverage at all.
bcr8f
Footballguy
Trade him straight up for McIntosh.
redman
Footballguy
Bite your tongue! If the reports about McIntosh are true the 'Skins have a good young player who costs a hell of a lot less than Briggs does.
Warpig
Footballguy
Haven't the Bears drafted a potential Briggs replacement the last two years (Williams and Okwo)? I wouldn't understand if they were to bring in ANOTHER LB...unless McIntosh were to be Hillenmeyer's replacement. But I think Hillenmeyer plays his role sufficiently.
BearsFan
Footballguy
...Ah, maybe McIntosh >> Okwo or Williams @WLB?? Chicago would just love a Briggs for McIntosh type deal. However, I seriously doubt that WAS would ever go for it if McIntosh is progressing as they say.
bcr8f
Footballguy
During the trade debacle at the owners meetings it was rumored they were also interested in McIntosh."Chicago would love the Redskins' young linebacker Rocky McIntosh in the deal to play Briggs' weakside linebacker position. Trading Briggs would leave Chicago without a starting weakside LB. However, the Redskins sources contend they do not want to part with McIntosh, even though he'll either have to move positions or wait for an injury to Briggs if he is to get on the field over the next couple of years.
One Redskins official said that, despite the logjam, they view McIntosh as a good young player who has too much upside to part with. Perhaps one option would be for the Redskins to include McIntosh but then ask Chicago for more as well to even it out a bit.
At this point, however, the two sides have hit a stalemate, putting them right back where they started before the NFL Owners Meeting last week in Phoenix.
Link
Keith Lewis
Footballguy
(KFFL) John Mullin, of the Chicago Tribune, reports the agent for Chicago Bears LB Lance Briggs, Drew Rosenhaus, has approached the team with some ideas regarding a new deal that he hopes will interest the team. "We presented some concepts that we think will work for the Bears and for Lance," Rosenhaus said. Rosenhaus declined to elaborate on specifics.
flooredyas
Footballguy
A flickering glimmer of hope returns.
bcr8f
Footballguy
Ths sounds like they have had a good relationship with Rosenhaus lately.
Can someone please pay me $7.2 million to play one year of football? I think I could survive one season with enough body p
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Can someone please pay me $7.2 million to play one year of football? I think I could survive one season with enough body p
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KellysHeroes
Footballguy
So you want me to bring up old post from a yr ago before I post news about a player
chook
Footballguy
No, coming back two months later with your follow up comment should be fine.So you want me to bring up old post from a yr ago before I post news about a player
Keith Lewis
Footballguy
No link, but I saw on NFL total access in the news they said "The bears have initiated talks with Lance Briggs on a multiyear contract". Yesterday it was about Drew bringing it up and now it looks like the Bears are onboard.
Two Bears players told the Chicago Tribune they believe Lance Briggs, not agent Drew Rosenhaus, is leading the way in the linebacker's holdout.
The Trib believes Rosenhaus blinked first in the stalemate by offering a "new approach" in contract dealings. But if Briggs is indeed leading the holdout cause and serious about sitting out, Rosenhaus' blinking may not matter.
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sp...l=cs-columnists
The Trib believes Rosenhaus blinked first in the stalemate by offering a "new approach" in contract dealings. But if Briggs is indeed leading the holdout cause and serious about sitting out, Rosenhaus' blinking may not matter.
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sp...l=cs-columnists
