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Voice Of Reason
Footballguy
I'd look for him to be the #1 after this weeks game.
The_Burning_Bush
Footballguy
He's been hurt, give him time.
Breesisdaman
Footballguy
No he is not droppable. He has the best hands of any of the Saints Wr's. He will be huge in Philly.
The_U
Footballguy
Yes. Absolutely. The guy plays on a high octane offense where he will get plenty of snaps this season and *only* posted what, 900+ yards and 10 TDs last season? Yes. Absolutely drop him after one game.Then watch him kill you when you play the guy that adds him without blinking an eye.R-E-L-A-X.
Cecil_Pooples
Footballguy
Why on earth would you drop him? He's got as high of upside as you'll find in a reserve fantasy WR.
Depends on your needs. As a long time Saints watcher, I doubt he will match last season's yardage or TD totals. I wouldn't be afraid to cut him for a need at another position, or for a higher upside WR. You've already seen Moore's high water mark. He is useful, but not undropable.
cubbie5150
Footballguy
Just to pile on, but there are so many weapons for Brees to utilize... I own Colston & am disappointed he had only 3 catches (but at least w/ a TD), but I know in that offense he'll get his by the time it's said and done. I think Moore will too
As a Colston owner last year-- I remember the frustration from several weeks after he came back from his thumb injury as he was in and out of the lineup, hardly targeted, etc.... Eventually- he broke out and was huge for me... I think the coach is doing a similar thing here, easing Moore in.... the Saints have SO MANY weapons.... that being said,,, I think it is such a spread offense- it's hard to get consistant huge #'s out of one guy every week--except for Brees..
puckalicious
Footballguy
Would you be complaining if he'd caught those 2 targets that would have ended up as TDs? Shockey won't get 2 TDs every week.
Darth Cheney
Footballguy
He's a guy who will blow up some weeks and be silent on others. That's what will happen with him. Is that reliable? No...of course not....but he's not droppable yet. He's a sell high guy.
Doctor Detroit
Please remove your headgear
Based on some of your fantasy football posts from the past, I'd probably suggest doing the opposite of whatever you think is the best idea.
Do you honestly think Peterson will surpass LT in the next few years? I dont, and I wouldnt be able to look past a few years IMO.How many years of top 5 performance does LT have left in the tank though?If you believe in Peterson's talent, its a legitimate question. I understand the appeal of a proven commodity like LT, but you have to like the talent youth combo that Peterson has.I have Peterson in a couple of leagues. I'd move him for LT in the redrafts, but in my keep1 league, I think I'm going to roll with him for the next 5 or so years.at people who would take Peterson over LT in a dynasty format.
ThePittbully
Footballguy
I was at the game, its true that Moore wasnt in much. That being said, he's not a 100% healthy and when he was in the game he made some GREAT grabs. He probably does have the best hands on the team and Brees trusts him immensely. Im not sure of the exact reason he wasnt on the field much today, but there will be weeks this year where he comes up huge and there will be weeks where he doesnt do much. This is a high powered offense with several weapons and a QB who can work through every read on the field, the ball is going to be spread around
How is that even remotely possible in a 14 teamerJust scooped him off waivers in a 14 team ppr. Had not done any research on the situation at all as I had no inkling he would be dropped. I would rather have a solid piece of a great big, yummy pie (Moore) than an unknown piece of a crappy pie (Hixon)
Football Jones
Footballguy
This could be a nightmare, LOL. That said, I'd be extremely leering of giving up on Moore. I'm not prepared to come to any conclusions concerning Moore based on 1 week even though Henderson got a lot more snaps. There definitely could be a reason(s) for that.
The only thing I'm willing to predict right now is Colston will be their most productive WR. Whoever turns out to be their 2nd-most productive WR could really help a lot of FF teams. I don't believe the Saints' WR production will be as fluid as it looks like at the moment.
Gun to my head, I still think Moore will be their WR2. I very well could be wrong, though. We'll have a much better guess in a couple weeks.
The only thing I'm willing to predict right now is Colston will be their most productive WR. Whoever turns out to be their 2nd-most productive WR could really help a lot of FF teams. I don't believe the Saints' WR production will be as fluid as it looks like at the moment.
Gun to my head, I still think Moore will be their WR2. I very well could be wrong, though. We'll have a much better guess in a couple weeks.
steviey
Footballguy
Dunno. Like I said, I pulled the trigger real fast without thinking about it. I really had no idea what Moore's situation was so I am trying to catch up now and figure out what his value is the rest of the year. I guess the other owner bought into the idea that he has dropped down to 3rd or 4th on the WR depth chart. The WR situation seems a bit murky for the Saints but he was still a 6th round pick in our draft. Could be a good scoop or he could end up being just another in a long line of mediocre WRs on my roster. Who knows. I definitely did not hesitate.How is that even remotely possible in a 14 teamerJust scooped him off waivers in a 14 team ppr. Had not done any research on the situation at all as I had no inkling he would be dropped. I would rather have a solid piece of a great big, yummy pie (Moore) than an unknown piece of a crappy pie (Hixon)
I think the bottom line is that you have to hold onto him for what he is capable of in that offense. last year, he excelled when Bush and Colston were dinged. Plus, he's coming off labrum surgery......no need to rush him when you have colston, schockey, meacham, henderson, etc....
Bring him out when some injuries strike their position players.....
Bring him out when some injuries strike their position players.....
Is Moore even startable this week? I've looked around at a few sites, a couple seem to put him in the top 25, but others have him way down on their lists. I guess it's hard to gauge what New Orleans is going to do with him... he's either going to be a wes welker or he's going to be a bum...he looked like a 5th option bum in the 1st game.
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ExtraPoint
Footballguy
Any WR who isnt a stud is droppable. Many many times I've ran fantasy teams without a WR fixated to my bench.
Superbowl Shuffle
Footballguy
Think he could be a good play this week? I do, assuming he gets/stays on the field.
Philly will bring max pressure on Brees. He'll be forced to go to the hot reads more often, and this was Moore's specialty last season. If Brees does have a little bit of time, I like Moore to find the soft spots in Philly's coverage to move the chains. I think he's a nice WR3 in PPR leagues this week with 5+ catches for 60+ yards and potential for a TD.
Philly will bring max pressure on Brees. He'll be forced to go to the hot reads more often, and this was Moore's specialty last season. If Brees does have a little bit of time, I like Moore to find the soft spots in Philly's coverage to move the chains. I think he's a nice WR3 in PPR leagues this week with 5+ catches for 60+ yards and potential for a TD.
I think if everyone stays healthy, he'll wind up 3rd on the team in recepts (behind colston and bush), and probably 5th in TDs (behind colston, hendo, shockey and either bush/meacham). He'll have some weeks like last week, and some 6/75 weeks, maybe 3/4 TDs.
The key is if colston, shockey or henderson gets hurt, he'll shoot up in value.
The key is if colston, shockey or henderson gets hurt, he'll shoot up in value.
JamesTheScot
Footballguy
Wow, only giving Colston a two week window to get hurt or Moore gets cut? I've heard of a short leash before, but geez.I know you didn't mean it that way, but it struck me as funny.
JamesTheScot
Footballguy
Bingo.Thinking of cutting him after one or two outings is pretty much a confession that you over-valued him in your draft.
Cenobite
Footballguy
So, one should wait to cut him before it is readily apparent he was overvalued? I'd rather cut a player (a/k/a confess that he was overvalued) than have him rot on my bench waiting to break out. Sometimes it is better to cut bait earlier while there are still decent options on the ww. The trick is knowing when to cut bait.
Moores problems in week one are due to a couple of reasons.
1) he is a possession receiver. he runs the checkdown routes and finds the soft spot in the zone and gets the balls if the deep threat is covered.
2) detroit wasnt able to cover the deep threat, so why would Brees look to the checkdown play? The deep threat was open all day, and he took what the defense gave him.
3) Moore is also recovering from injury. While I dont think this played a huge part in the decision, I'm sure he was downgraded from the 2nd read to the third read on some plays to ease the wear & tear on him.
against a better defense that can keep the deep guy covered, Moore will get more love. Just hold tight a week or two. You'll be fine.
1) he is a possession receiver. he runs the checkdown routes and finds the soft spot in the zone and gets the balls if the deep threat is covered.
2) detroit wasnt able to cover the deep threat, so why would Brees look to the checkdown play? The deep threat was open all day, and he took what the defense gave him.
3) Moore is also recovering from injury. While I dont think this played a huge part in the decision, I'm sure he was downgraded from the 2nd read to the third read on some plays to ease the wear & tear on him.
against a better defense that can keep the deep guy covered, Moore will get more love. Just hold tight a week or two. You'll be fine.
You forgot the most important one. He played the leadt out of any of the WRs
MarcO
Footballguy
Haberdasher
Footballguy
One reason for Moore's reduced snaps could be that the Saints are trying to run the ball more effectively and have more offensive balance this year. Meachem and Henderson are bigger, faster dudes that are much more powerful blockers than Moore (Meachem is considered the best blocking WR on the team, btw). Moore always gives 100%, has fantastic hands and is very consistent- but he will never have the physical tools of the other two guys.
Also, Shockey may be taking away some of that over the middle stuff.
Also, Shockey may be taking away some of that over the middle stuff.
JamesTheScot
Footballguy
You're right.But if you were that wrong about him a week ago, it's an admission that you may not know what you are doing, which means you may not know when to cut bait on him any better than you knew when to draft him. You may be swinging back to undervalueing him after overvalueing him at the draft.
He's got nice upside if the number of open mouths in that offense gets reduced and he gets a bigger bite. Given the history of Colston, Shockey and Bush, I think that'll happen at some point this season and he does have the trust of Brees. Depending upon you rsoter and the free agent pool, he's probably a hold if you already have him on your roster.
Whom are you going to drop him for? Chasing points after week 1 isn't that different than chasing Moore's 2008 points. So has the light really come on for you in the space of two or three weeks? You're still chasing points without knowing the backstory. That's all I'm saying.
When I say "you" I'm speaking generically and not at you personally.
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Black
Footballguy
When the Saints can throw at will, they will. Brees will take his shots downfield at Meacham, Henderson.
When the Saints need to move the chains against a tougher opponent, you'll see Moore with the money shots.
Also, when Re Bush is out, Moore gets those short looks.
All this AND like another poster mentioned, he's a great #3WR with upside.
When the Saints need to move the chains against a tougher opponent, you'll see Moore with the money shots.
Also, when Re Bush is out, Moore gets those short looks.
All this AND like another poster mentioned, he's a great #3WR with upside.
FFdork
Footballguy
Depends on the league and roster sizes. IMO he's dropable in leagues who only start two WR and/or with short rosters. He still has a great chance to be productive when he gets healthy compared to some of the waiver wire darlings of the last few weeks--he's a dependable target in a prolific offense. Plus, Bush, Shockey and Colston don't exactly have great histories when it comes to injury, and if one or more of those guys get hurt, his value shoots way up.
He's out there in a couple of my leagues where I would love to stash him, but I can't until I get through some bye weeks.
I have dropped him. but the leagues I play in do not have much in the way of extra roster spots. There are starters and bye week players/backups and nothing more.I may look to pick him up again in 2 or 3 weeks. I think he will be out of the lineup at least that long and may take some time to find his way back into the lineup due to the depth the saints have at WR.
toxic
Footballguy
I'm always hesitant to drop a player with his upside, but there are just too many red flags in his situation at the moment so I pulled the trigger. Perhaps more importantly, no one in my 12-team PPR league has even bothered to pick him up.
