Landry over Willis and Posluszny? (1 Viewer)

[Lord of the Rings]

Posted this in the AC Forum. Thought someone in here might be interested in the discussion as well.

12 team heavy IDP league: start 3 DL, 3 LB, 3 DBMy offense isn't stellar, but most impact players have already been drafted.My current DL: C. Grant, D. Burress, O. Umenyiora, J. Abraham, M. Anderson (Chi)My current LB: K. Bulluck, Z. Thomas, L. Briggs, M. Peterson, C. Crowder, B. Ruud, D. Smith (Jax)My current DB: T. Polamula, D. Robinson, D. Grant, K. LewisI am deep at LB and have been trying like crazy the last few months to trade some of them, but nobody is interested (not a big trade league). I obviously need DB help.My pick is coming up soon and all 3 of Willis/Poluszny/Landry could be available. I'm definitely leaning toward Landry to fill a pressing need, but passing on those top 2 LBs seems 'wrong'. Somebody either change my mind or make be feel better

 

[redman]

what's your scoring, and what are your possible options for starting IDP configurations e.g. number of each position that you can start?

 

[Lord of the Rings]

what's your scoring, and what are your possible options for starting IDP configurations e.g. number of each position that you can start?

Sorry, forgot to include scoring:sack=3pt, tackle=2pt, assist=1, fmbl forced=4pt, fmble rec=6pt, int=6pt, pass def=2ptrequired to start: 3 DL (DT or DE), 3 LB, 3 DB (CB or S)

 

[Jene Bramel]

Posted this in the AC Forum. Thought someone in here might be interested in the discussion as well.

12 team heavy IDP league: start 3 DL, 3 LB, 3 DBMy offense isn't stellar, but most impact players have already been drafted.My current DL: C. Grant, D. Burress, O. Umenyiora, J. Abraham, M. Anderson (Chi)My current LB: K. Bulluck, Z. Thomas, L. Briggs, M. Peterson, C. Crowder, B. Ruud, D. Smith (Jax)My current DB: T. Polamula, D. Robinson, D. Grant, K. LewisI am deep at LB and have been trying like crazy the last few months to trade some of them, but nobody is interested (not a big trade league). I obviously need DB help.My pick is coming up soon and all 3 of Willis/Poluszny/Landry could be available. I'm definitely leaning toward Landry to fill a pressing need, but passing on those top 2 LBs seems 'wrong'. Somebody either change my mind or make be feel better

Tough decision.I share your concerns with passing on the linebacker. It's possible that none of the Briggs, one of Peterson/Smith, Crowder and Ruud group will produce LB3 numbers this year. And I see your concern that you really don't have a solid group at DB in a tackle heavy league.I like Landry and think he can have as much relative impact as Pos and Willis. If you truly can't get a biter on a player like Peterson or Briggs, then adding another LB may not be the best idea. If you feel Landry is every bit the player those two linebackers will be, then I think Landry is an okay pick. I might try to trade back a couple spots and pick up some extra value if you're unsure or if you think you can get Landry a pick or two later.If you've got the picks, you might get more mileage by drafting the LB and maneuvering yourself into a position to get Weddle or Piscatelli a little later and then taking some fliers on the Rouse/Gattis/White/Wilson/Stone crew later if it makes sense from an overall roster standpoint.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

I'm always a fan of taking BPA and then trading if need be.

Willis or Poz has more value than Landry, IMHO.

I think you can manage without taking a S, but surely there's a team in need of a LB that would want either Poz, Willis or a guy you already have to fill the S or another team need.

 

[msommer]

Enough people have said eloquently no so I won't pile on...

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

Is this a defense only league?

I would say the correct answer is "none of the above"

go with offense.

edit to add: looking at your scoring system, high tackle LBs are gold - I guess Willis/Puz is still going to be worth more than waiting on a Drew Stanton, Craig Davis, or Anthony Gonzalez

 

[Lord of the Rings]

Is this a defense only league?I would say the correct answer is "none of the above"go with offense.

Funny you should mention that. This is a start 2 QB league and because there has been a run on QBs in the early rounds there is still a lot of value on the board in the 3rd round: Olsen, Rice, C. Davis, S. Smith, Wolfe. My problem is that we have a 40 player roster limit. I don't have a lot of room to play with, accumulating more picks, etc. If I could unload some of my IDP talent that would help, but like I said, nobody is biting. So I've been leaning toward filling my team needs (ie, DB).

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

Is this a defense only league?I would say the correct answer is "none of the above"go with offense.

Funny you should mention that. This is a start 2 QB league and because there has been a run on QBs in the early rounds there is still a lot of value on the board in the 3rd round: Olsen, Rice, C. Davis, S. Smith, Wolfe. My problem is that we have a 40 player roster limit. I don't have a lot of room to play with, accumulating more picks, etc. If I could unload some of my IDP talent that would help, but like I said, nobody is biting. So I've been leaning toward filling my team needs (ie, DB).

Rice?You should have said so. That's the pick imo.

 

[Warhogs]

Bloom - I know you are pretty high on Rice but from what I have been seeing he seems to be the receiver that is sliding in most drafts. I agree that he is the pick to go with here. I hope he works out because I have seen him going 15-25 picks into several rookie drafts.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

Bloom - I know you are pretty high on Rice but from what I have been seeing he seems to be the receiver that is sliding in most drafts. I agree that he is the pick to go with here. I hope he works out because I have seen him going 15-25 picks into several rookie drafts.

tsk tsk.If Rice had stayed in school, he would have had a great shot at being a top 10 pick next year. He's only 20. It might take some patience, but he's got a chance to be very very good, and there's absolutely nothing blocking him from becoming the main man in Minnesota's passing game.

 

[Lord of the Rings]

Rice was just selected. So my dilemma remains.

 

[redman]

Bloom - I know you are pretty high on Rice but from what I have been seeing he seems to be the receiver that is sliding in most drafts. I agree that he is the pick to go with here. I hope he works out because I have seen him going 15-25 picks into several rookie drafts.

I haven't seen that at all. The two dynasty IDP & PPR leagues I'm in have both seen him go 1.04.

 

[Chaos Commish]

Bloom - I know you are pretty high on Rice but from what I have been seeing he seems to be the receiver that is sliding in most drafts. I agree that he is the pick to go with here. I hope he works out because I have seen him going 15-25 picks into several rookie drafts.

I haven't seen that at all. The two dynasty IDP & PPR leagues I'm in have both seen him go 1.04.

You're in leagues of lemmings blindly following Bloom? In my only rookie draft there's no ppr, Rice was WR4 1.12. The whole draft in question, seems a little strange to me. In the third round, all the top IDPs are on the board, Olsen and Rice?

 

[Lord of the Rings]

Bloom - I know you are pretty high on Rice but from what I have been seeing he seems to be the receiver that is sliding in most drafts. I agree that he is the pick to go with here. I hope he works out because I have seen him going 15-25 picks into several rookie drafts.

I haven't seen that at all. The two dynasty IDP & PPR leagues I'm in have both seen him go 1.04.

You're in leagues of lemmings blindly following Bloom? In my only rookie draft there's no ppr, Rice was WR4 1.12. The whole draft in question, seems a little strange to me. In the third round, all the top IDPs are on the board, Olsen and Rice?

J. Russell, B. Quinn, J. Beck, D. Stanton...round 1K. Kolb, T. Edwards, T. Smith... round 2Start 2 QB league, but this is the strangest thing I've ever seen. Happens to be one of those years where every team seems to have a severe weakness at QB and so they're gobbling up arms as fast as possible.

 

[Lord of the Rings]

Tough call now. Posluszny is off the board.

Do I:

A. Go with a WR (C. Davis, S. Smith) or G. Olsen (iffy need)

B. Go with Willis (adding to my team's existing strength)

C. Go with Landry (greatest team need)

D. Trade down with possibility of Willis and Landry both disappearing.

Sorry for turning this into a Assistant Coach question.

 

[Pipes]

Tough call now. Posluszny is off the board.Do I:A. Go with a WR (C. Davis, S. Smith) or G. Olsen (iffy need)B. Go with Willis (adding to my team's existing strength)C. Go with Landry (greatest team need)D. Trade down with possibility of Willis and Landry both disappearing.Sorry for turning this into a Assistant Coach question.

I'd go with Landry. It's your greatest need and while Willis has the potential to be a stud he's not in the best system that would allow it. You have a big hole in your secondary and Landry is just the guy to fill it.

 

[stevegamer]

I'd take Landry. While you can usually find a serviceable DB on the wire, you really have solid LB's, and could use a shot at a top DB.

The O selections don't do much for me, as I don't have a ton of confidence in those guys to be a good starter ever. The league doesn't trade much, so the O player is sitting on your squad, waiting. Sort of the same with the LB, but Zach is old & Peterson is semi-old and coming off injury.

Landry helps you now & later.

 

[SkyRattlers]

I was faced with a similar situation today in my rookie draft. I'm very strong at LB but Beason was still on the board at my pick (19th overall). So I took him and immediately sent a league announcement saying he was available to anyone who thought he might drop a few more spots. I ended up trading him to a guy with a pick a couple after mine and picking up an extra 3rd rounder next year.

 

[Zoomanji]

I'd have to go with Willis even though it is your deepest position.

Hopefully you could move a LB for a DB.

I definitely would not reach for an offensive player here

 

[Warhogs]

I would go Landry and fill the need. I hope these mixed results are helping you.

 

[nortobc]

Geaux with Landry...he is a Tiger.

 

[JoeSteeler]

Your league seems very similar to the one I am in. Do you think you could post the whole draft when it is over?

I say go with with Poluszny. I think he will put up some monster numbers this year. You should be able to add a solid DB next round.

 

[redman]

Geaux with Landry...he is a Tiger.

I'm definitely biased as a 'Skins fan (I don't have him on any fantasy roster though) but I think Landry is going to absolutely shred in the NFL. They're going to turn him loose and let him play downhill in the classic SS role, and I think he's going to be a goldmine in terms of sacks, forced fumbles/fumble recoveries and tackles. It's hard to compare his value to Poz or Willis, but I think all are valuable and essentially "can't miss" fantasy prospects. This may be a situation where you go with your need here because I don't think you can go wrong among the three.

 

[Lord of the Rings]

UPDATE:

I went with Landry. Feel pretty good about it.

Now my pick is up again and Beason is still on the board (as is S. Smith, C. Davis). Trying to trade down, but if I can't then I will have a similar dilemma: go with BPA even if it's a strength area or pick up iffy offensive help (eventhough I could use a young receiver). Roster space is becoming an issue.

 

[noneother]

UPDATE:I went with Landry. Feel pretty good about it.Now my pick is up again and Beason is still on the board (as is S. Smith, C. Davis). Trying to trade down, but if I can't then I will have a similar dilemma: go with BPA even if it's a strength area or pick up iffy offensive help (eventhough I could use a young receiver). Roster space is becoming an issue.

As a Putz and Landry owner I think you chose wisely.... go steve smith he is highly underrated in my opinion,,, i could see him beat out SinMoss for the 2 rather easily by next year...

 

[Zoomanji]

Geaux with Landry...he is a Tiger.

I'm definitely biased as a 'Skins fan (I don't have him on any fantasy roster though) but I think Landry is going to absolutely shred in the NFL. They're going to turn him loose and let him play downhill in the classic SS role, and I think he's going to be a goldmine in terms of sacks, forced fumbles/fumble recoveries and tackles. It's hard to compare his value to Poz or Willis, but I think all are valuable and essentially "can't miss" fantasy prospects. This may be a situation where you go with your need here because I don't think you can go wrong among the three.

Then who is going to cover K. Curtis and H. Baskett going deep for TDs? Sure won't be Taylor

 

[Zoomanji]

UPDATE:I went with Landry. Feel pretty good about it.Now my pick is up again and Beason is still on the board (as is S. Smith, C. Davis). Trying to trade down, but if I can't then I will have a similar dilemma: go with BPA even if it's a strength area or pick up iffy offensive help (eventhough I could use a young receiver). Roster space is becoming an issue.

It would be hard for me to pass up another LB in Beason but depending on your WR depth, I could see the selection of S. Smth here

 

[redman]

Geaux with Landry...he is a Tiger.

I'm definitely biased as a 'Skins fan (I don't have him on any fantasy roster though) but I think Landry is going to absolutely shred in the NFL. They're going to turn him loose and let him play downhill in the classic SS role, and I think he's going to be a goldmine in terms of sacks, forced fumbles/fumble recoveries and tackles. It's hard to compare his value to Poz or Willis, but I think all are valuable and essentially "can't miss" fantasy prospects. This may be a situation where you go with your need here because I don't think you can go wrong among the three.

Then who is going to cover K. Curtis and H. Baskett going deep for TDs? Sure won't be Taylor

Fair jab after Taylor's performance last year, but with SS stabilized and his deep responsibilities solidified, I think he'll return to his old form in pass coverage. Last year he was too conflicted with competing responsibilities between run coverage and pass coverage. He also got some lousing coaching from Dwayne Walker, though Walker's back which concerns me. I'd take him over any other FS in the NFL in 1:1 pass coverage if he gets his head cleared regarding his coverage responsibilities. Frankly, he's better than most CB's.

 

[Zoomanji]

Geaux with Landry...he is a Tiger.

I'm definitely biased as a 'Skins fan (I don't have him on any fantasy roster though) but I think Landry is going to absolutely shred in the NFL. They're going to turn him loose and let him play downhill in the classic SS role, and I think he's going to be a goldmine in terms of sacks, forced fumbles/fumble recoveries and tackles. It's hard to compare his value to Poz or Willis, but I think all are valuable and essentially "can't miss" fantasy prospects. This may be a situation where you go with your need here because I don't think you can go wrong among the three.

Then who is going to cover K. Curtis and H. Baskett going deep for TDs? Sure won't be Taylor

Fair jab after Taylor's performance last year, but with SS stabilized and his deep responsibilities solidified, I think he'll return to his old form in pass coverage. Last year he was too conflicted with competing responsibilities between run coverage and pass coverage. He also got some lousing coaching from Dwayne Walker, though Walker's back which concerns me. I'd take him over any other FS in the NFL in 1:1 pass coverage if he gets his head cleared regarding his coverage responsibilities. Frankly, he's better than most CB's.

I'd like him more if he would cut down on the person fouls.They definitely impoved the secondary this off-season

 

[redman]

Geaux with Landry...he is a Tiger.

I'm definitely biased as a 'Skins fan (I don't have him on any fantasy roster though) but I think Landry is going to absolutely shred in the NFL. They're going to turn him loose and let him play downhill in the classic SS role, and I think he's going to be a goldmine in terms of sacks, forced fumbles/fumble recoveries and tackles. It's hard to compare his value to Poz or Willis, but I think all are valuable and essentially "can't miss" fantasy prospects. This may be a situation where you go with your need here because I don't think you can go wrong among the three.

Then who is going to cover K. Curtis and H. Baskett going deep for TDs? Sure won't be Taylor

Fair jab after Taylor's performance last year, but with SS stabilized and his deep responsibilities solidified, I think he'll return to his old form in pass coverage. Last year he was too conflicted with competing responsibilities between run coverage and pass coverage. He also got some lousing coaching from Dwayne Walker, though Walker's back which concerns me. I'd take him over any other FS in the NFL in 1:1 pass coverage if he gets his head cleared regarding his coverage responsibilities. Frankly, he's better than most CB's.

I'd like him more if he would cut down on the person fouls.They definitely impoved the secondary this off-season

To a degree, I agree with you. Intimidation, however, is still a part of this game as you know from watching Dawkins (who Landry reminds me of a lot) play. I don't mind a few well-placed blows from my safety each season as reinforcement of the idea that nothing is safe in the middle of the field for a receiver. Taylor definitely has more than I'd like, but I truthfully don't want him to reduce those fouls to zero.