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That would definitely piss me off something fierce as well. F'ING club rats. They either don't know their place or you can't find them in the places you go. Either way, definitely understand LJ's frustration better now.
is this what he put on twitter?if so, just shows that twitter is so over rated, who would want to follow this ####
"christopher street boy"? that's a homophobic slur. that could result in discipline by the NFL.
I think there are lots of reasons for the Chiefs condition right now beyond Haley, but I do agree he has done little or nothing to show he has much promise going forward. as far as LJ goes, he's been a headcase most of his career in KC and he probably just shortened what was left of it in KC and most likely the entire NFL.
i understand very little of this
iHateWhiteCoachez
I'd really be interested in hearing what this has to do with Pacman Jones.It's obvious that guys like him are out of control. And when I say guys like him I mean Brandon Marshall and Pacman, all to different degrees. These guys do the same thing repeatedly. They have either bipolar disorders and need medicine or maybe some other kind of mental disorder or ######ation. Pacman was just a straight up crack-baby!
Well, to be fair, the ones this week were right.
If you've ever been to NYC and had to get off at the Christopher Street PATH station, I'd say it is.
And is it equally obvious that Josh McDaniels was a brilliant choice?
Pretty easy to look at the train wreck that is KC right now and read into Haley's qualifications. But take a quick look at some of the rookie HCs that were anointed after one strong season and then seen their star fade quickly thereafter. Or better yet, consider the coaches that had horrible first seasons but went on to be excellent coaches.Jimmy Johnson was 1-15 in his first year with the Cowboys, went 7-9 the following year and then what?Andy Reid went 5-11 as a rookie HC and then rattled off 11+ wins for five consecutive yearsDick Vermeil was a laughing stock upon his return to the NFL in St. Louis, winning 5 and 4 games, respectively in his first two seasons backBill Walsh was 2-14 in his first season with the 49ers, and then 6-10 the next yearTom Coughlin was 4-12 with the Jags in Year One, and 6-10 with the Giants in Year One...I could go on and on and on.You know what one of the biggest differences between Haley and McDaniels is this year? Control. McDaniels was vilified by many (myself included) for making wholesale changes to the roster, many of which were perceived as giving up too much talent for not enough return. But, win or lose, he had say in what his roster was going to look like and it's bearing fruit. Meanwhile Haley accepted Pioli choice of a "franchise" QB [which was the biggest mistake this organization made and likely sets them back years] and had very little input into who went and who stayed. If I'm going to cast aspersions Haley's way, I would say his biggest mistake is believing too much in his former contemporaries. Clancy Pendergast's tenure in Arizona was unimpressive enough to cast serious doubt about his ability to turn around a sorry defensive roster like KC, yet Haley brought him aboard anyway.
I agree with a lot of what you are saying here, JW. However, you have to at least consider how the culture of the NFL has changed. Turnover is the norm, franchises want results, and they want it now. I think they need to give Haley a chance, so we are in agreement there, but franchises are much more willing to change the leader of the club now than they were back then. At least that's the feeling I get (could be wrong).Many of the best franchises have a great foundation in place, forged over years, and bringing in a new guy to run the show is made that much easier for that coach to step into. Look at Mangini...guy went from hero to goat in such a short time. Turnover happens quickly. Should they fire Haley after this season, or even next? IMO, no, but it wouldn't surprised me if they did. They have more concerns than the HC, IMO, and it begins with the O line.And is it equally obvious that Josh McDaniels was a brilliant choice?Pretty easy to look at the train wreck that is KC right now and read into Haley's qualifications. But take a quick look at some of the rookie HCs that were anointed after one strong season and then seen their star fade quickly thereafter. Or better yet, consider the coaches that had horrible first seasons but went on to be excellent coaches.Jimmy Johnson was 1-15 in his first year with the Cowboys, went 7-9 the following year and then what?Andy Reid went 5-11 as a rookie HC and then rattled off 11+ wins for five consecutive yearsDick Vermeil was a laughing stock upon his return to the NFL in St. Louis, winning 5 and 4 games, respectively in his first two seasons backBill Walsh was 2-14 in his first season with the 49ers, and then 6-10 the next yearTom Coughlin was 4-12 with the Jags in Year One, and 6-10 with the Giants in Year One...I could go on and on and on.You know what one of the biggest differences between Haley and McDaniels is this year? Control. McDaniels was vilified by many (myself included) for making wholesale changes to the roster, many of which were perceived as giving up too much talent for not enough return. But, win or lose, he had say in what his roster was going to look like and it's bearing fruit. Meanwhile Haley accepted Pioli choice of a "franchise" QB [which was the biggest mistake this organization made and likely sets them back years] and had very little input into who went and who stayed. If I'm going to cast aspersions Haley's way, I would say his biggest mistake is believing too much in his former contemporaries. Clancy Pendergast's tenure in Arizona was unimpressive enough to cast serious doubt about his ability to turn around a sorry defensive roster like KC, yet Haley brought him aboard anyway.
Didn't McDaniels also want that same "franchise" QB as his first choice and Orton was basically his plan b qb? I think its reasonable to assume that Haley felt that Cassel was his guy as well when they brought him in since I never heard a peep from him that he might have felt otherwise before the season.And is it equally obvious that Josh McDaniels was a brilliant choice?
Jimmy Johnson was 1-15 in his first year with the Cowboys, went 7-9 the following year and then what?
Andy Reid went 5-11 as a rookie HC and then rattled off 11+ wins for five consecutive years
**** Vermeil was a laughing stock upon his return to the NFL in St. Louis, winning 5 and 4 games, respectively in his first two seasons back
Bill Walsh was 2-14 in his first season with the 49ers, and then 6-10 the next year
Tom Coughlin was 4-12 with the Jags in Year One, and 6-10 with the Giants in Year One
...I could go on and on and on.
You know what one of the biggest differences between Haley and McDaniels is this year? Control. McDaniels was vilified by many (myself included) for making wholesale changes to the roster, many of which were perceived as giving up too much talent for not enough return. But, win or lose, he had say in what his roster was going to look like and it's bearing fruit. Meanwhile Haley accepted Pioli choice of a "franchise" QB [which was the biggest mistake this organization made and likely sets them back years] and had very little input into who went and who stayed.
If I'm going to cast aspersions Haley's way, I would say his biggest mistake is believing too much in his former contemporaries. Clancy Pendergast's tenure in Arizona was unimpressive enough to cast serious doubt about his ability to turn around a sorry defensive roster like KC, yet Haley brought him aboard anyway.
Yes he did. And wouldn't it be interesting to see how their respective teams fates would've gone in that circumstance? My point being, McDaniels took control over that locker room in a way that most thought was going to blow up in his face. It hasn't. And, for whatever a half of a season means, I'll give him credit. I'm not sure Haley could have (much less would have) done the same thing in KC. Pioli is a strong handed GM who clearly isn't going to hand over personnel decisions. This is a guy that's been THE top GM candidate for years b/c of his association with Bill B, yet he waited until KC to take a gig. Haley is going to have to live with what Scott P wants, which should be fine. Lots of NFL teams have success with a strong GM in place. Look at the Colts. For as great as Dungy was there, he didn't buy the ingredients.Didn't McDaniels also want that same "franchise" QB as his first choice and Orton was basically his plan b qb? I think its reasonable to assume that Haley felt that Cassel was his guy as well when they brought him in since I never heard a peep from him that he might have felt otherwise before the season.And is it equally obvious that Josh McDaniels was a brilliant choice?
Jimmy Johnson was 1-15 in his first year with the Cowboys, went 7-9 the following year and then what?
Andy Reid went 5-11 as a rookie HC and then rattled off 11+ wins for five consecutive years
**** Vermeil was a laughing stock upon his return to the NFL in St. Louis, winning 5 and 4 games, respectively in his first two seasons back
Bill Walsh was 2-14 in his first season with the 49ers, and then 6-10 the next year
Tom Coughlin was 4-12 with the Jags in Year One, and 6-10 with the Giants in Year One
...I could go on and on and on.
You know what one of the biggest differences between Haley and McDaniels is this year? Control. McDaniels was vilified by many (myself included) for making wholesale changes to the roster, many of which were perceived as giving up too much talent for not enough return. But, win or lose, he had say in what his roster was going to look like and it's bearing fruit. Meanwhile Haley accepted Pioli choice of a "franchise" QB [which was the biggest mistake this organization made and likely sets them back years] and had very little input into who went and who stayed.
If I'm going to cast aspersions Haley's way, I would say his biggest mistake is believing too much in his former contemporaries. Clancy Pendergast's tenure in Arizona was unimpressive enough to cast serious doubt about his ability to turn around a sorry defensive roster like KC, yet Haley brought him aboard anyway.
It's Toonicon
can't follow Toonicon now. you have to send a request to him.
I wish you could send a message with your request. I wanted to write something along the lines of "Enjoy watching you commit career suicide. Would like to subscribe to your newsletter".
This is pure speculation on my part, and just my opinion, but what little fantasy relevancy LJ had has all but evaporated.Haley has shown this year he is entirely willing to make an example out of anyone (look how he's treated Dwayne Bowe), and I think LJ's childish actions directed not only at Haley, but towards the fans demand reprimand. Haley will not only need to establish his authority, but this sort of crap cannot be tolerated by management either - it's a PR nightmare. Therefore, I don't think LJ is going to escape any sort of wrath.I think Kolby Smith came off the PUP last week, or at least this week, so I believe he's in the mix.I also believe that they showed faith in LJ by keeping him rostered heading into this year, when it was widely believed his time had come and gone. LJ's actions are the ultimate slap-in-the-face to both the coaching staff and management.I don't know if he'll outright be cut, but I can definitely see Haley deactivating LJ. I guess that will depend on what management wants to do in terms of money.
The only relevance is if Johnson goes to an actual NFL team as a result of this. KC running backs are worthless.
Those don't appear to be from someone named 'ToonIcon', which was mentioned above as Johnson's name?
If that's him, that's really disgraceful...on so many levels.I say he cries hacker and tries to get out of it.
Does Rotoworld count?
It's the only way the dude will 'go off'.
