Larry Johnson update (1 Viewer)

[VICK-tory]

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Exclusive: Larry Johnson update

Draft Sharks Exclusive: Today we talked to Lance Allan, sportscaster of WTMJ in Milwaukee about Chiefs RB Larry Johnson's pending holdout. Allan has followed LJ's contract impasse ever since the Packers were mentioned in trade rumors last April. "I know the Packers are very interested and they’re watching the situation," said Allan. "But with [Colts DE] Dwight Freeney getting a $30 million signing bonus, LJ is going to want a lot. Plus I heard Kansas City wants a 1st and possibly a 4th... and they asked about Donald Driver... so the price is steep!" By now it's become very clear that Kansas City is open to shipping LJ rather than give him the megabucks he wants. They "asked about Donald Driver" in a potential deal? Juicy stuff.

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[cobalt_27]

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Exclusive: Larry Johnson update

Draft Sharks Exclusive: Today we talked to Lance Allan, sportscaster of WTMJ in Milwaukee about Chiefs RB Larry Johnson's pending holdout. Allan has followed LJ's contract impasse ever since the Packers were mentioned in trade rumors last April. "I know the Packers are very interested and they’re watching the situation," said Allan. "But with [Colts DE] Dwight Freeney getting a $30 million signing bonus, LJ is going to want a lot. Plus I heard Kansas City wants a 1st and possibly a 4th... and they asked about Donald Driver... so the price is steep!" By now it's become very clear that Kansas City is open to shipping LJ rather than give him the megabucks he wants. They "asked about Donald Driver" in a potential deal? Juicy stuff.

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That's insane. A 1st a 4th and Donald Driver. Plus, GB would have to spring for a gazillion dollars. No way this happens. Not in this market, not with this team, not for that exchange.Doesn't sound like KC is ready to trade him, yet, unless they can bend someone over.

 

[Keith Lewis]

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Exclusive: Larry Johnson update

Draft Sharks Exclusive: Today we talked to Lance Allan, sportscaster of WTMJ in Milwaukee about Chiefs RB Larry Johnson's pending holdout. Allan has followed LJ's contract impasse ever since the Packers were mentioned in trade rumors last April. "I know the Packers are very interested and they're watching the situation," said Allan. "But with [Colts DE] Dwight Freeney getting a $30 million signing bonus, LJ is going to want a lot. Plus I heard Kansas City wants a 1st and possibly a 4th... and they asked about Donald Driver... so the price is steep!" By now it's become very clear that Kansas City is open to shipping LJ rather than give him the megabucks he wants. They "asked about Donald Driver" in a potential deal? Juicy stuff.

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That's insane. A 1st a 4th and Donald Driver.

Before calling this "insane" go back and read what VICK-tory wrote. Let me know if you have a hard time understanding that it is not a 1st/4th AND Driver.

 

[cobalt_27]

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Exclusive: Larry Johnson update

Draft Sharks Exclusive: Today we talked to Lance Allan, sportscaster of WTMJ in Milwaukee about Chiefs RB Larry Johnson's pending holdout. Allan has followed LJ's contract impasse ever since the Packers were mentioned in trade rumors last April. "I know the Packers are very interested and they're watching the situation," said Allan. "But with [Colts DE] Dwight Freeney getting a $30 million signing bonus, LJ is going to want a lot. Plus I heard Kansas City wants a 1st and possibly a 4th... and they asked about Donald Driver... so the price is steep!" By now it's become very clear that Kansas City is open to shipping LJ rather than give him the megabucks he wants. They "asked about Donald Driver" in a potential deal? Juicy stuff.

http://www.draftsharks.com/content.php/news/list

That's insane. A 1st a 4th and Donald Driver.

Before calling this "insane" go back and read what VICK-tory wrote. Let me know if you have a hard time understanding that it is not a 1st/4th AND Driver.

Technically, VICK-tory didn't write any of it."Kansas City wants a 1st and a 4th...and they asked about Donald Driver."

Clearly, KC isn't going to trade LJ for DD.

They might agree to a 1st and DD for LJ.

But, the way the broken up sentence reads, it's ambiguous where the the Milwaukee hack is taking this. It's just garbage speculation.

Regardless, this isn't going anywhere. GB would give up a 1st and a 4th, but they're not going to trade away DD to bring in a malcontent, absurdly over-priced RB.

 

[VICK-tory]

Yeah dont look at me i didn't write it. Just spreadin' the butter.

Man I hope LJ doesn't go to Green Bay. That means Mr. "I love to hear myself talk" Favre will hang around for 2 more yrs.

 

[Chunky Soup]

Technically, VICK-tory didn't write any of it.

"Kansas City wants a 1st and a 4th...and they asked about Donald Driver."

Clearly, KC isn't going to trade LJ for DD.

They might agree to a 1st and DD for LJ.

But, the way the broken up sentence reads, it's ambiguous where the the Milwaukee hack is taking this. It's just garbage speculation.

Regardless, this isn't going anywhere. GB would give up a 1st and a 4th, but they're not going to trade away DD to bring in a malcontent, absurdly over-priced RB.

How are the deals from OP overpriced? He's one of the best RBs in the game right now. I'd say he's worth a lot.

 

[cobalt_27]

Technically, VICK-tory didn't write any of it.

"Kansas City wants a 1st and a 4th...and they asked about Donald Driver."

Clearly, KC isn't going to trade LJ for DD.

They might agree to a 1st and DD for LJ.

But, the way the broken up sentence reads, it's ambiguous where the the Milwaukee hack is taking this. It's just garbage speculation.

Regardless, this isn't going anywhere. GB would give up a 1st and a 4th, but they're not going to trade away DD to bring in a malcontent, absurdly over-priced RB.

Why is he overpriced? He's one of the best RBs in the game right now. I'd say he's worth a lot.

Whoever signs him will bent over on a longer-term contract than what he'll be worth in, say, 3-4 years. He is one of the top backs now. But, he's had the benefit of a massive O-line. Put him in a different situation, already close to 30, a malcontent...I'd just try to invest my money and draft picks elsewhere.

 

[bcr8f]

Rumor was they wanted 2 #1's before the draft but had no takers.KC sure wants a lot for players they no longer want.

 

[BLOX]

Yeah dont look at me i didn't write it. Just spreadin' the butter. Man I hope LJ doesn't go to Green Bay. That means Mr. "I love to hear myself talk" Favre will hang around for 2 more yrs.

Favre hasn't been in the news for a while now, yet someone has to say this every day. Is it really Favre talking so much, or the fact that some can't seem to stop thinking about him when he's not making headlines?

 

[fruity pebbles]

Technically, VICK-tory didn't write any of it.

"Kansas City wants a 1st and a 4th...and they asked about Donald Driver."

Clearly, KC isn't going to trade LJ for DD.

They might agree to a 1st and DD for LJ.

But, the way the broken up sentence reads, it's ambiguous where the the Milwaukee hack is taking this. It's just garbage speculation.

Regardless, this isn't going anywhere. GB would give up a 1st and a 4th, but they're not going to trade away DD to bring in a malcontent, absurdly over-priced RB.

Why is he overpriced? He's one of the best RBs in the game right now. I'd say he's worth a lot.

Whoever signs him will bent over on a longer-term contract than what he'll be worth in, say, 3-4 years. He is one of the top backs now. But, he's had the benefit of a massive O-line. Put him in a different situation, already close to 30, a malcontent...I'd just try to invest my money and draft picks elsewhere.

Green Bay would be a better situation than he had last year and I'd hardly call 27 close to 30.

 

[Routilla]

I'd like to revisit the scenerio where DAL trades J. Jones and a 1st rd pick in '08 for LJ.

 

[rdstorm]

I think Gruden wants to trade for him and convert in into a QB.

 

[phthalatemagic]

'd just try to invest my money and draft picks elsewhere.

With LJ Green Bay is an instant contender. What is that worth?

 

[softball]

'd just try to invest my money and draft picks elsewhere.

With LJ Green Bay is an instant contender. What is that worth?

It's worth a 1 and a 4 if they can pay that.The Packers D' is pretty damn good IMO and with some help from the offense would be very good. What this says to me though is that GB is not as "happy" with Morency and even Jackson as we may all be speculating.

 

[jeter23]

I would think that Morency would be going to KC in any deal for Johnson. They can't be comfortable with Bennett/Smith/Ross and there is not much left out there? Dillon? Nah...

 

[clinton_c]

If I was dallas I would try to work this deal:

1st (not the browns first but the dallas first), the 4th, and Julius Jones.

Dallas gets an elite back in the prime of his career that could spring them to the superbowl.

KC gets the 1st and the 4th they covet as well as Julius Jones to take the place of LJ for 1 year before he hits FA.

Dallas will be giving up a first round pick most likely in the 20's...its possible to get a player of Johnson caliber there, but the odds are not with you. In Johnson you know what you are getting. Giving up Julius Jones is an afterthought to me since he is as good as gone at the end of this year.

 

[jeter23]

If I was dallas I would try to work this deal:1st (not the browns first but the dallas first), the 4th, and Julius Jones.Dallas gets an elite back in the prime of his career that could spring them to the superbowl.KC gets the 1st and the 4th they covet as well as Julius Jones to take the place of LJ for 1 year before he hits FA. Dallas will be giving up a first round pick most likely in the 20's...its possible to get a player of Johnson caliber there, but the odds are not with you. In Johnson you know what you are getting. Giving up Julius Jones is an afterthought to me since he is as good as gone at the end of this year.

This makes sense to me. Let's make it happen.

 

[BoltBacker]

Rumor was they wanted 2 #1's before the draft but had no takers.KC sure wants a lot for players they no longer want.

Agreed. Of course you also have to remember they opened negotiations asking for a 2nd rounder for Trent Green and settled for a conditional 4th rounder.

 

[cobalt_27]

'd just try to invest my money and draft picks elsewhere.

With LJ Green Bay is an instant contender. What is that worth?

I dunno. Contending for what? A Super Bowl? If so, give him a blank check.But, that's not what they'll be gunning for. Hopefully a playoff spot. And, then next year, they'll have a raw QB, a shift in offensive philosophy, and nowhere near the parts up front to match the O-line play of K.C. that sprung LJ for many a big run.

 

[BoltBacker]

If I was dallas I would try to work this deal:1st (not the browns first but the dallas first), the 4th, and Julius Jones.

I must be the only one left that thinks KC would(and certainly should) jump at the offer of a first rounder, period. What was Shaun Alexander worth in his prime due a giant contract? I thought they were asking for a 2nd and didn't even get any nibbles. If Jerry Jones really wants LJ all he has to do is wait a year and give up nothing except that gigantic signing bonus which he'll have to give LJ even if a trade is made.

 

[phthalatemagic]

'd just try to invest my money and draft picks elsewhere.

With LJ Green Bay is an instant contender. What is that worth?

I dunno. Contending for what? A Super Bowl? If so, give him a blank check.But, that's not what they'll be gunning for. Hopefully a playoff spot. And, then next year, they'll have a raw QB, a shift in offensive philosophy, and nowhere near the parts up front to match the O-line play of K.C. that sprung LJ for many a big run.

GB has a decent defense as it is. LJ creates a good running game on his own, and this takes pressure off of Farve and the passing game. I'd say with LJ, Green Bay is generally as good as any team in the NFC. They'd definitely be a super bowl contender IMO.

 

[nygiants56]

Technically, VICK-tory didn't write any of it.

"Kansas City wants a 1st and a 4th...and they asked about Donald Driver."

Clearly, KC isn't going to trade LJ for DD.

They might agree to a 1st and DD for LJ.

But, the way the broken up sentence reads, it's ambiguous where the the Milwaukee hack is taking this. It's just garbage speculation.

Regardless, this isn't going anywhere. GB would give up a 1st and a 4th, but they're not going to trade away DD to bring in a malcontent, absurdly over-priced RB.

Why is he overpriced? He's one of the best RBs in the game right now. I'd say he's worth a lot.

Whoever signs him will bent over on a longer-term contract than what he'll be worth in, say, 3-4 years. He is one of the top backs now. But, he's had the benefit of a massive O-line. Put him in a different situation, already close to 30, a malcontent...I'd just try to invest my money and draft picks elsewhere.

already close to 30? come on now..LT has 2050 carries; he's 28, and treated like a GOD...LJ has 892 carries;he's 27, and treated like yesterday's newspaper.

the reasoning people have for disliking LJ is comical..they love a guy like LT, with 2050 carries ( not to mention receptions), but they loath LJ as being old, etc..

it cracks me up every time!

the fact that LJ ran for over 1700 yards last season, when his LT abruptly retired in camp, says a lot about his ability. They had Turley playing LT, freshly off being waived by Miami as a TE ( he was at roughly 260 lbs trying out as a TE in Miami before KC called). Guys on the O-line were playing out of position. Green got hurt. Huard started 12 games.

and LJ STILL rushed for 1700 yards.

just because a guy is near 30,doesn't mean his NFL career is over..especially a guy like LJ who has a relatively low amount of carries compared to Tomlinson's 2050.

at the ripe old age of 31, C-Mart rushed for 1697 yards for the Jets ( under Herm Edwards), reeling in the NFL rushing title.

at the ripe old age of 30, C-Mart rushed for 1308 yards.

at 29, 1094,

at 28 he rushed for 1513,

at 27 he rushed for 1204.

Mike Anderson - at the age of 31, rushed for 1014 yards and 12 tds.

Emmitt Smith - at the age of 30, Emmitt ran for 1397 yards.

at 31, he ran for 1203.

at 32, he ran for 1021...

Payton - at the age of 30, Payton rushed for 1684 yards, statistically, his second best rushing total,ever.

at the age of 31, he rushed for 1551.

at the age of 32, he rushed for 1333.

Fred Taylor - rushed for 1146 yards last season, avg of 5.0 per carry, at the age of 30.

yeah, 30 is a death sentence.

 

[Snotbubbles]

Technically, VICK-tory didn't write any of it.

"Kansas City wants a 1st and a 4th...and they asked about Donald Driver."

Clearly, KC isn't going to trade LJ for DD.

They might agree to a 1st and DD for LJ.

But, the way the broken up sentence reads, it's ambiguous where the the Milwaukee hack is taking this. It's just garbage speculation.

Regardless, this isn't going anywhere. GB would give up a 1st and a 4th, but they're not going to trade away DD to bring in a malcontent, absurdly over-priced RB.

Why is he overpriced? He's one of the best RBs in the game right now. I'd say he's worth a lot.

Whoever signs him will bent over on a longer-term contract than what he'll be worth in, say, 3-4 years. He is one of the top backs now. But, he's had the benefit of a massive O-line. Put him in a different situation, already close to 30, a malcontent...I'd just try to invest my money and draft picks elsewhere.

already close to 30? come on now..LT has 2050 carries; he's 28, and treated like a GOD...LJ has 892 carries;he's 27, and treated like yesterday's newspaper.

the reasoning people have for disliking LJ is comical..they love a guy like LT, with 2050 carries ( not to mention receptions), but they loath LJ as being old, etc..

it cracks me up every time!

the fact that LJ ran for over 1700 yards last season, when his LT abruptly retired in camp, says a lot about his ability. They had Turley playing LT, freshly off being waived by Miami as a TE ( he was at roughly 260 lbs trying out as a TE in Miami before KC called). Guys on the O-line were playing out of position. Green got hurt. Huard started 12 games.

and LJ STILL rushed for 1700 yards.

just because a guy is near 30,doesn't mean his NFL career is over..especially a guy like LJ who has a relatively low amount of carries compared to Tomlinson's 2050.

at the ripe old age of 31, C-Mart rushed for 1697 yards for the Jets ( under Herm Edwards), reeling in the NFL rushing title.

at the ripe old age of 30, C-Mart rushed for 1308 yards.

at 29, 1094,

at 28 he rushed for 1513,

at 27 he rushed for 1204.

Mike Anderson - at the age of 31, rushed for 1014 yards and 12 tds.

Emmitt Smith - at the age of 30, Emmitt ran for 1397 yards.

at 31, he ran for 1203.

at 32, he ran for 1021...

Payton - at the age of 30, Payton rushed for 1684 yards, statistically, his second best rushing total,ever.

at the age of 31, he rushed for 1551.

at the age of 32, he rushed for 1333.

Fred Taylor - rushed for 1146 yards last season, avg of 5.0 per carry, at the age of 30.

yeah, 30 is a death sentence.

Tiki Barber age 30 rushed for 1860 yards (530 receiving) and 11 TDsage 31 rushed for 1662 yards (465 receiving) and 5 TDs

John Riggins age 33 rushed for 1347 yards and 24 TDs

age 34 rushed for 1239 yards and 14 TDs

Priest Holmes age 30 rushed for 1420 yards and 27 TDs

 

[Ike Turner]

Technically, VICK-tory didn't write any of it.

"Kansas City wants a 1st and a 4th...and they asked about Donald Driver."

Clearly, KC isn't going to trade LJ for DD.

They might agree to a 1st and DD for LJ.

But, the way the broken up sentence reads, it's ambiguous where the the Milwaukee hack is taking this. It's just garbage speculation.

Regardless, this isn't going anywhere. GB would give up a 1st and a 4th, but they're not going to trade away DD to bring in a malcontent, absurdly over-priced RB.

Why is he overpriced? He's one of the best RBs in the game right now. I'd say he's worth a lot.

Whoever signs him will bent over on a longer-term contract than what he'll be worth in, say, 3-4 years. He is one of the top backs now. But, he's had the benefit of a massive O-line. Put him in a different situation, already close to 30, a malcontent...I'd just try to invest my money and draft picks elsewhere.

already close to 30? come on now..LT has 2050 carries; he's 28, and treated like a GOD...LJ has 892 carries;he's 27, and treated like yesterday's newspaper.

the reasoning people have for disliking LJ is comical..they love a guy like LT, with 2050 carries ( not to mention receptions), but they loath LJ as being old, etc..

it cracks me up every time!

the fact that LJ ran for over 1700 yards last season, when his LT abruptly retired in camp, says a lot about his ability. They had Turley playing LT, freshly off being waived by Miami as a TE ( he was at roughly 260 lbs trying out as a TE in Miami before KC called). Guys on the O-line were playing out of position. Green got hurt. Huard started 12 games.

and LJ STILL rushed for 1700 yards.

just because a guy is near 30,doesn't mean his NFL career is over..especially a guy like LJ who has a relatively low amount of carries compared to Tomlinson's 2050.

at the ripe old age of 31, C-Mart rushed for 1697 yards for the Jets ( under Herm Edwards), reeling in the NFL rushing title.

at the ripe old age of 30, C-Mart rushed for 1308 yards.

at 29, 1094,

at 28 he rushed for 1513,

at 27 he rushed for 1204.

Mike Anderson - at the age of 31, rushed for 1014 yards and 12 tds.

Emmitt Smith - at the age of 30, Emmitt ran for 1397 yards.

at 31, he ran for 1203.

at 32, he ran for 1021...

Payton - at the age of 30, Payton rushed for 1684 yards, statistically, his second best rushing total,ever.

at the age of 31, he rushed for 1551.

at the age of 32, he rushed for 1333.

Fred Taylor - rushed for 1146 yards last season, avg of 5.0 per carry, at the age of 30.

yeah, 30 is a death sentence.

Nice 'ownage' there.

 

[fatness]

Johnson is worth every dollar he can get. 892 career carries, and he can provide a hell of a running game even with a poor O-line like he had last year. KC will be stupid not to pay him, and Green Bay would be stupid not to try to get him. A 1st and a 4th sounds cheap to me. And saying someone's a malcontent because they want to be paid in line with their performance and ability is laughable. Johnson has conducted himself well in this situation.

 

[ookook]

For better or worse, TT is VERY fond of his draft picks. His philospophy is to build a contender through the draft.

So I am not saying he would not be interested in LJ (he would be a fool not be), but I do not think he wants to pay a lot for this muffler.

Moreover, I buy into the conspiracy theories that he does not want to give Favre reason to stay by building the offensive much while he is still around.

I therefore think the LJ to GB scenario unlikely, although I would be all for it. I am not THAT crazy about what TT does with those draft picks anyway. And whoever the QB of the future is, he will need a strong running game.

 

[Roc Pile]

as a packer fan i do want LJ on the packers for this year, however in the long run those picks are very important and i think the money could be spent better. As a fantasy owner of B. Jackson and Morency i do NOT want LJ to come to gren bay

For better or worse, TT is VERY fond of his draft picks. His philospophy is to build a contender through the draft. So I am not saying he would not be interested in LJ (he would be a fool not be), but I do not think he wants to pay a lot for this muffler. Moreover, I buy into the conspiracy theories that he does not want to give Favre reason to stay by building the offensive much while he is still around.I therefore think the LJ to GB scenario unlikely, although I would be all for it. I am not THAT crazy about what TT does with those draft picks anyway. And whoever the QB of the future is, he will need a strong running game.

 

[Hammerage]

I am not a GM but I think that LJ would be worth a first for no other reason than he is a proven commodity and many 1st round picks will never pan out. See the many first round RB's in the last 3 years that have not had a big impact. I would rather have LJ for 3 years than an unknown commodity.

 

[HerbieT]

For what it's worth, I also talked to Lance Allan, albeit this afternoon, about this situation. After we spoke, I called the Chiefs and Packers, but, as expected, received the party line answer:

Johnson rumors resurface in the north

Packers reportedly keeping close tabs

by Herbie Teope

It’s no secret Larry Johnson, in the last year of his contract, is unhappy and may not be present when the Chiefs report for training camp in River Falls, Wis., on Thursday.

Johnson is reportedly seeking a new deal with $28 million in guarantees. Meanwhile, the Chiefs reportedly countered with $11 - $14 million guaranteed.

Kansas City’s star running back’s situation opens the door for speculation and rumors.

One such rumor receiving plenty of attention is in the heart of Packers country, courtesy of WTMJ-4, an NBC affiliate based in Milwaukee, Wis.

“The Packers are keeping their eye on the situation and we’ve reported this a couple times on-air,” WTMJ sports anchor Lance Allan said Tuesday. “First and foremost, the Chiefs want a lot for Larry Johnson, probably a first- and a fourth-round pick from what I’ve heard.

“With Johnson only having one year left on his deal, the Packers would probably have to have some reassurance that he’d be willing to sign some type of contract extension.”

Allan, who has closely followed this story in recent weeks, says he is unaware of on-going negotiations between the Chiefs and Packers.

However, citing a source close to the situation, Allan categorized any potential talks as a “fact finding mission” adding Green Bay is “definitely curious” about the current contract squabble between Johnson and the Chiefs.

Allan believes a deal remains a long shot, but said the Packers have room under the salary cap to make a move if the price was right.

“The story up here got a lot of play,” he said. “I felt comfortable enough to report it that at least if it was a long shot, it was coming from a pretty good place. Obviously if nobody meets the Chiefs’ price, then nothing happens … Let’s put it this way, it’s on the Packers’ radar screen.”

While a trade is not out of the realm of possibility, blockbusters are rare in the NFL.

The last major deal involving players in their prime occurred in 2004 when the Broncos sent running back Clinton Portis to the Redskins in exchange for cornerback Champ Bailey.

Chiefs’ spokesman Pete Moris said Tuesday the team is aware of reports circulating out of Wisconsin, but didn’t appear concerned.

“Larry Johnson is a member of the Chiefs and we expect to see him in training camp,” Moris said.

A Packers spokesman declined comment stating it was team policy to not discuss rumors.

Article first appeared Jul. 24, 2007

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