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Clearly, he's in a bad situation in New England. BB is almost as lethal to fantasy RBs as Mike Shanahan and there's just too much competition for Maroney to ever be successful in NE.

I'm not going to throw out the bust word but I definitely think next year Maroney will be with another team and we will get a chance to see just what he can do if given the chance.

 
But he doesnt help himself either.

They have tried to make him the bellcow at times and he keeps failing to seize the opprotunity.

 
But he doesnt help himself either.They have tried to make him the bellcow at times and he keeps failing to seize the opprotunity.
So Brandon Jackson is cottonball S-O-F-T and Maroney fails to seize the "opprotunity". I think we found a reverse-jinxer if Maroney blows up next week. :wub:
 
But he doesnt help himself either.They have tried to make him the bellcow at times and he keeps failing to seize the opportunity.
So Brandon Jackson is cottonball S-O-F-T and Maroney fails to seize the "opprotunity". I think we found a reverse-jinxer if Maroney blows up next week. :unsure:
:wub: Each time I had watched Jackson he was soft.Ive never watched Maroney display "softness". I watched him be hesitant. I watched him lack vision.But Ive seen him run very hard and break tackles and display speed in certain instances.
 
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Any chance he has trouble with the playbook? I've seen a couple of interviews with him and he doesn't strike me as the brightest bulb. With the complicated gameplans that BB puts in each week, is it possible that he doesn't feel comfortable with Maroney making decisions at crucial times during the games?

 
Maroney is signed through 2010, so I'm not sure he'll be playing anywhere else next year.
With the total lack of use by Maroney in general, you don't think that the Pats will potentially cut him loose?
Why, so he can go elsewhere and put up better fantasy #'s? He's a productive player given his role, he's not going anywhere. It's very clear that BB is going to use a full scale rbbc and Maroney is an important cog in the system. Also he is one of their best kick returners, see who was returning kickoffs in SB 42. He has no lack of total use in BB's eyes as he fits a role just like the other 52 guys even if he's not toting the rock 25 times a game. In this day and age I don't see how you can have too many productive rb's on the roster.
 
I don't know how anyone could have thought he would be a beast this season. Faulk is generally the 3rd down back, so Maroney is at best a 2-down back. Then you have the fact that Jordan was brought in and they already have Evans, both of whom were more likely to see the goalline work. Maroney isn't exactly known for his pass-catching. Then you have Morris in the mix to get some carries. What does that leave for Maroney?

 
I don't know how anyone could have thought he would be a beast this season. Faulk is generally the 3rd down back, so Maroney is at best a 2-down back. Then you have the fact that Jordan was brought in and they already have Evans, both of whom were more likely to see the goalline work. Maroney isn't exactly known for his pass-catching. Then you have Morris in the mix to get some carries. What does that leave for Maroney?
In the "outhouse" :lol: :hifive: :shrug:
 
Agree with most of the posts in this thread. What I don't get is why NE spent a 1st rd pick on a guy they had no intention of using more than 10 carries a game. They should have traded LM or the pick instead of essentially wasting a 1st rd pick.

 
The issues I see with Maroney are twofold. First of all there's just something missing from his game (i.e. he just doesn't seem to have "it"). Watching Jordan yesterday I saw a RB getting extra yardage that I just don't see Maroney getting. Right now he just doesn't seem to have one facet of his game he can really hang his hat on. This leads me to the second issue...I don't think the Pats use him properly. IMO he's a guy who's most dangerous in open space...he's not really a grinder but the Pats seem intent on running him inbetween the tackles. I think he'd be much more effective if he was used on more screen passes and runs that aren't straight up the middle. He puts a lot of pressure on defenses in the open space but for whatever reason the Pats don't seem to use him too much in this manner.

Right now Maroney is still an effective weapon but he's not even close to what many (myself included) thought he'd be when the Pats drafted him (and after his first year). Fantasywise if Jordan's performance yesterday is a sign of things to come Maroney will be virtually useless because it will be a four-headed monster with all four RBs getting their touches...but there's no way that there will be enough for one to become a fantasy asset.

 
Agree with most of the posts in this thread. What I don't get is why NE spent a 1st rd pick on a guy they had no intention of using more than 10 carries a game. They should have traded LM or the pick instead of essentially wasting a 1st rd pick.
I suspect they found out after they had him awhile that he wasn't the guy they thought they were getting (or they wouldn't have drafted him).In watching Maroney as a Pat (never saw him as a Golden Gopher), Maroney has usually been hesitent, dances around too much, and frequently does not lower his shoulder or try to move the pile. He normally is not a smash mouth kind of player like Dillon was.IMO, once the Pats realized this, they should have adjusted their playcalling to better suit Maroney's talent base. He is good in space, is very fast, and is not a between the tackles running back. Many times he will juke and dance around in the backfield to try to make a big play, but the team wants him to quickly identify that there's not much there and then simply move upfield into the pile for 2 yards. Instead, Maroney will look to escape, ultimately will go down behind the line, and take a 3 yard loss. That's a 5 yard swing, and that's not what they want. I also don't think Maroney has great blocking skills, so on passing downs they will put Faulk in who is exceptional and picking up blitzers and saving (formerly) Brady's behind.As I have mentioned in probably 20 threads by now, the Pats OL is built to pass protect, not run protect. I do not believe they have a lot of plays where linemen pull and move around very much to run block. They typically have a move the pile philosophy (for the OL) and will use TE and WR to help out (Welker is excellent at this).IMO, that goes against the things Maroney does well, and being soft and an injury risk only emphasizes the problem. I doubt the Pats will get rid of him anytime soon as he carries a low price tag and they can work within the system to be successful. Long story short, as far as the Pats are concerned, if it ain't beoke then don't fix it (they are winning). As far as the fantasy universe, people will say it's messed up, but I'm pretty sure BB could care less about your fantasy team.Morris and Jordan seem to fit the role better for running north and south instead of east and west. The combination of their backs will probably work well for the team, so I would expect they will leave that element of the team alone.
 
Maroney will be a Patriot until the Colts release Joseph Addai; maybe at the end of their rookie contracts?

If you think back to the year they were both drafted, the Pats took Maroney over Addai in part because they thought the Colts were really big on him.

I think the Pats are too stubborn to admit they should have taken Addai over Maroney, so they will keep him until the Colts let Addai take a walk.

 
I cannot see him as anything more than a flex - and that is only with a good match-up.

Does anyone consider Maroney dropable at this point?

Would you drop him for a guy like Darren Sproles, or even Lamont Jordan?

 
Routilla said:
Agree with most of the posts in this thread. What I don't get is why NE spent a 1st rd pick on a guy they had no intention of using more than 10 carries a game. They should have traded LM or the pick instead of essentially wasting a 1st rd pick.
I don't believe that this was their intention on draft day 2006. I think their intentions have evolved as Maroney has encountered problems, and as other guys - especially Morris - have emerged as productive alternatives.
 
David Yudkin said:
Routilla said:
Agree with most of the posts in this thread. What I don't get is why NE spent a 1st rd pick on a guy they had no intention of using more than 10 carries a game. They should have traded LM or the pick instead of essentially wasting a 1st rd pick.
I suspect they found out after they had him awhile that he wasn't the guy they thought they were getting (or they wouldn't have drafted him).In watching Maroney as a Pat (never saw him as a Golden Gopher), Maroney has usually been hesitent, dances around too much, and frequently does not lower his shoulder or try to move the pile. He normally is not a smash mouth kind of player like Dillon was.IMO, once the Pats realized this, they should have adjusted their playcalling to better suit Maroney's talent base. He is good in space, is very fast, and is not a between the tackles running back. Many times he will juke and dance around in the backfield to try to make a big play, but the team wants him to quickly identify that there's not much there and then simply move upfield into the pile for 2 yards. Instead, Maroney will look to escape, ultimately will go down behind the line, and take a 3 yard loss. That's a 5 yard swing, and that's not what they want. I also don't think Maroney has great blocking skills, so on passing downs they will put Faulk in who is exceptional and picking up blitzers and saving (formerly) Brady's behind.As I have mentioned in probably 20 threads by now, the Pats OL is built to pass protect, not run protect. I do not believe they have a lot of plays where linemen pull and move around very much to run block. They typically have a move the pile philosophy (for the OL) and will use TE and WR to help out (Welker is excellent at this).IMO, that goes against the things Maroney does well, and being soft and an injury risk only emphasizes the problem. I doubt the Pats will get rid of him anytime soon as he carries a low price tag and they can work within the system to be successful. Long story short, as far as the Pats are concerned, if it ain't beoke then don't fix it (they are winning). As far as the fantasy universe, people will say it's messed up, but I'm pretty sure BB could care less about your fantasy team.Morris and Jordan seem to fit the role better for running north and south instead of east and west. The combination of their backs will probably work well for the team, so I would expect they will leave that element of the team alone.
As usualy, spot on DY. Thx for weighing in.One question - do you really think BB and Pioli just botched it on their assessment of Maroney? It just seems unlikely Additionally, why haven't they adjusted their offensive gameplan to suit Maroney?
 
Tigerbot Hesh said:
If you think back to the year they were both drafted, the Pats took Maroney over Addai in part because they thought the Colts were really big on him.
lol.
Actually I recall reports about this too. Certainly, the Pats were drafting with their self-interest in mind, but the Colts were at that point their arch-rivals and it apparently was well-known that they coveted Maroney. OTOH, while this was a draft day curiosity two years ago, I don't think this at all affects how the Pats handle Maroney going forward.
 

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