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Lawrence Maroney (1 Viewer)

Picked up Maroney on the cheap in a dynasty this year. I think his FF value would go up if he is on another team and away from the Pats RBBC. He has shown enough flashes that he could produce on another team as the lead dog in a 2 man RBBC, IMO.

 
I've always viewed the Patriots and Belichick as a team and coach that exploits player's talents better than most. I also want to believe that Maroney is still a very talent RB based on what I remember of him in college and what he had shown his rookie year. The two just don't seem to match right now.

Since Maroney turns 24 this February I won't give up on him completely yet, and if there is a dynasty owner looking to get rid of him at a decent price I'd still be willing to buy. Even if I need to wait for Maroney to find a new team.

 
I've always viewed the Patriots and Belichick as a team and coach that exploits player's talents better than most. I also want to believe that Maroney is still a very talent RB based on what I remember of him in college and what he had shown his rookie year. The two just don't seem to match right now.

Since Maroney turns 24 this February I won't give up on him completely yet, and if there is a dynasty owner looking to get rid of him at a decent price I'd still be willing to buy. Even if I need to wait for Maroney to find a new team.
Exactly correct, and yet BB couldn't find any talent in Maroney to exploit...should trade him to Shanahan.
 
He plays with no heart. I wouldn't be surprised to see him go the way of Chad Jackson.
Do the Patriots ever get any flak locally or in the national media for their "misses" on Jackson and Maroney...all we seem to hear about them is that they always find players who play the "Patriot way", but yet in that logic would've missed recently on two 1st-rounders
 
I've always viewed the Patriots and Belichick as a team and coach that exploits player's talents better than most. I also want to believe that Maroney is still a very talent RB based on what I remember of him in college and what he had shown his rookie year. The two just don't seem to match right now.

Since Maroney turns 24 this February I won't give up on him completely yet, and if there is a dynasty owner looking to get rid of him at a decent price I'd still be willing to buy. Even if I need to wait for Maroney to find a new team.
Exactly correct, and yet BB couldn't find any talent in Maroney to exploit...should trade him to Shanahan.
This is a great point. BB knows how to get the best from his players ability, much like Parcells, and given what has happened with the Pats I think Maroney is a wash-out. IMHO if he goes to another team then he will be worse than what he has shown as a Pat.
 
I dunno... if I own him (and I do in one league), he's definitely a hold.

Remember, most thought very little of Deangelo Williams not all that long ago - same draft class (right?), almost identical pedigree, same high hopes... was a bust until around mid season this year.

Not saying Maroney is going to break out or anything - just something to think about. He had a decent enough rookie season, got hurt last year (but finished the year very strong), and got hurt this year. I'm not ready to write him off yet.

 
He plays with no heart. I wouldn't be surprised to see him go the way of Chad Jackson.
Do the Patriots ever get any flak locally or in the national media for their "misses" on Jackson and Maroney...all we seem to hear about them is that they always find players who play the "Patriot way", but yet in that logic would've missed recently on two 1st-rounders
you have to look at the body of work when evaluating personnel ability to acquire talent. Consider Jackson and Maroney exceptions to the rule, which is that Scott Pioli is the best in the business.
 
Assuming Maroney is still with the Pats and he comes back recovered from whatever mystery ailments he's had (both of which carry a fair amount of doubt):

- He's played in 36 out of a possible 54 games (post season included).

- He's had a 4.25 ypc on a very potent offense (Faulk 5.23, Morris 4.61, Jordan 4.5 in the same timeframe).

- He's averaged a TD every 30 touches (BGJE 14.4, Jordan 20, Morris 26.4, Faulk 32.9).

- He's had 20 carries in a game 4 times (out of 54) and has averaged 14.1 touches per game.

- He doesn't fit the mold of what the Pats look for in a back (they like hard-nosed, between the tackles, move the pile guys when Maroney is more of an off the edge, good in space, soft, finesse type back).

Long story short, he's not been as productive as other guys in the same scheme and doesn't really fit the offense that hte Pats are running. He would likely have more luck and opportunity on a team that would be willing to give him more touches in an offense that could get him more room to run in, but who knows when and where that might be. The Pats will probably keep him at this point given that he's not that expensive and they have more pressing needs elsewhere that would cost them more to fix.

 
I've always viewed the Patriots and Belichick as a team and coach that exploits player's talents better than most. I also want to believe that Maroney is still a very talent RB based on what I remember of him in college and what he had shown his rookie year. The two just don't seem to match right now.

Since Maroney turns 24 this February I won't give up on him completely yet, and if there is a dynasty owner looking to get rid of him at a decent price I'd still be willing to buy. Even if I need to wait for Maroney to find a new team.
Exactly correct, and yet BB couldn't find any talent in Maroney to exploit...should trade him to Shanahan.
Shanahan would have taken him but traded up for Cutler instead.Maroney would do well in Denver.

 
Assuming Maroney is still with the Pats and he comes back recovered from whatever mystery ailments he's had (both of which carry a fair amount of doubt):- He's played in 36 out of a possible 54 games (post season included).- He's had a 4.25 ypc on a very potent offense (Faulk 5.23, Morris 4.61, Jordan 4.5 in the same timeframe).- He's averaged a TD every 30 touches (BGJE 14.4, Jordan 20, Morris 26.4, Faulk 32.9).- He's had 20 carries in a game 4 times (out of 54) and has averaged 14.1 touches per game.- He doesn't fit the mold of what the Pats look for in a back (they like hard-nosed, between the tackles, move the pile guys when Maroney is more of an off the edge, good in space, soft, finesse type back).Long story short, he's not been as productive as other guys in the same scheme and doesn't really fit the offense that hte Pats are running. He would likely have more luck and opportunity on a team that would be willing to give him more touches in an offense that could get him more room to run in, but who knows when and where that might be. The Pats will probably keep him at this point given that he's not that expensive and they have more pressing needs elsewhere that would cost them more to fix.
VERY VERY VERY :banned:
 
I've always viewed the Patriots and Belichick as a team and coach that exploits player's talents better than most. I also want to believe that Maroney is still a very talent RB based on what I remember of him in college and what he had shown his rookie year. The two just don't seem to match right now.

Since Maroney turns 24 this February I won't give up on him completely yet, and if there is a dynasty owner looking to get rid of him at a decent price I'd still be willing to buy. Even if I need to wait for Maroney to find a new team.
Exactly correct, and yet BB couldn't find any talent in Maroney to exploit...should trade him to Shanahan.
Shanahan would have taken him but traded up for Cutler instead.Maroney would do well in Denver.
Hillis did well, Pittman did well, Bell did well (again), Mike Bell did well, Henry did well...saying Maroney would do well isn't really saying much.
 
I would say Maroney's future as a starter, let alone a reliable RB is tenuous at best. When you factor in Belichick's history of going with a RRBC and playing games with the injury report, Maroney is not worthy of consideration as anything more than a gamble as a late round pick next year.

 
He plays with no heart. I wouldn't be surprised to see him go the way of Chad Jackson.
Do the Patriots ever get any flak locally or in the national media for their "misses" on Jackson and Maroney...all we seem to hear about them is that they always find players who play the "Patriot way", but yet in that logic would've missed recently on two 1st-rounders
Patriots have never been known as a team that was solid in building through the draft, but they have one of the best FA records in the league.
 
I asked today and Maroney is expected to both be back with the Pats and healthy enough to participate in the start of training camp. That may give us some direction as to where the Pats are headed (at least draft wise).

 
He plays with no heart. I wouldn't be surprised to see him go the way of Chad Jackson.
Do the Patriots ever get any flak locally or in the national media for their "misses" on Jackson and Maroney...all we seem to hear about them is that they always find players who play the "Patriot way", but yet in that logic would've missed recently on two 1st-rounders
Patriots have never been known as a team that was solid in building through the draft, but they have one of the best FA records in the league.
Completely off topic, but Todem's Chris Johnson prediction in your sig is pretty amazing. A bit short on yardage but 2 more TDs, and 43 catches. As for Maroney... not worth drafting in redrafts, in dynasty I'd hold because what else are you gonna do with him right now?
 
He's beginning to remind me of a less productive Willis McGahee.
Willis's career>>>>>>>>Maroney. It's more like a less productive Benson.
I chose to compare him to McGahee because McGahee consistently underwhelms every year like Maroney has the last two season, first year playing withstanding...to a greater degree McGahee but Maroney somewhat too. McGahee looks great at times, but the slightest knick and all of a sudden he becomes borderline useless. I see similar things from Maroney, he looks great when he's healthy, but the slightest knick and he crawls into his shell. After getting knicked up and returnign they both seem to go out of their way to avoid contact all too often as well. Benson is soft himself, but I've never seen signs from him in the pros that he is anything better than slightly above replacement level, that's why I didn't mention him...I see what you're saying though.
 
David Yudkin said:
I asked today and Maroney is expected to both be back with the Pats and healthy enough to participate in the start of training camp. That may give us some direction as to where the Pats are headed (at least draft wise).
By "expected to be back with the Pats" does that mean he is expected to make the team and have a meaningful role?
 
David Yudkin said:
I asked today and Maroney is expected to both be back with the Pats and healthy enough to participate in the start of training camp. That may give us some direction as to where the Pats are headed (at least draft wise).
By "expected to be back with the Pats" does that mean he is expected to make the team and have a meaningful role?
Earlier in the year, I had people asking me if the Pats were getting tired of Maroney and would they just cut bait and move on. At the time that was a bit of an unknown.However many months later, it seems that the Pats will be keeping Maroney and he is expected back at relatively full strength for training camp. The full story on Maroney and his issues has not ever come out, but apparently those issues have been mitigated or will be mitigated come next season.I can't speak with any certainty on his role, but I would suspect that it would be similar to what it has been (10-15 carries, very little goal line work, not much in the receiving game).So I doubt the Pats burn a high pick on a RB in the draft. They will probably sign a vet for depth again, whether it's the return of Jordan, Kevin Jones, etc. I still see another year of RBBC in 2009 as it was very effective this year.
 
I've always viewed the Patriots and Belichick as a team and coach that exploits player's talents better than most. I also want to believe that Maroney is still a very talent RB based on what I remember of him in college and what he had shown his rookie year. The two just don't seem to match right now.

Since Maroney turns 24 this February I won't give up on him completely yet, and if there is a dynasty owner looking to get rid of him at a decent price I'd still be willing to buy. Even if I need to wait for Maroney to find a new team.
Exactly correct, and yet BB couldn't find any talent in Maroney to exploit...should trade him to Shanahan.
Once Shanahan has a team you mean...I don't think Maroney's career is over...I look to see him on another team.

 
David Yudkin said:
I asked today and Maroney is expected to both be back with the Pats and healthy enough to participate in the start of training camp. That may give us some direction as to where the Pats are headed (at least draft wise).
By "expected to be back with the Pats" does that mean he is expected to make the team and have a meaningful role?
Earlier in the year, I had people asking me if the Pats were getting tired of Maroney and would they just cut bait and move on. At the time that was a bit of an unknown.However many months later, it seems that the Pats will be keeping Maroney and he is expected back at relatively full strength for training camp. The full story on Maroney and his issues has not ever come out, but apparently those issues have been mitigated or will be mitigated come next season.I can't speak with any certainty on his role, but I would suspect that it would be similar to what it has been (10-15 carries, very little goal line work, not much in the receiving game).So I doubt the Pats burn a high pick on a RB in the draft. They will probably sign a vet for depth again, whether it's the return of Jordan, Kevin Jones, etc. I still see another year of RBBC in 2009 as it was very effective this year.
Thanks David. I really appreciate your extensive and ongoing insight in the NE RB situation. Really wish I had listened to you 2 years ago and traded away Maroney at his pinnacle.
 
He plays with no heart. I wouldn't be surprised to see him go the way of Chad Jackson.
Do the Patriots ever get any flak locally or in the national media for their "misses" on Jackson and Maroney...all we seem to hear about them is that they always find players who play the "Patriot way", but yet in that logic would've missed recently on two 1st-rounders
you have to look at the body of work when evaluating personnel ability to acquire talent. Consider Jackson and Maroney exceptions to the rule, which is that Scott Pioli is the best in the business.
Bill Polian might have something to say about that.
 

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