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I just visited KFFL and a number of Pats fan are reporting that they heard ol Lawyer was released over the radio.I am trying to search as much as I can to see if there is any truth to this. But I just want to give everyone a heads up on this.

 
There HAS to be another move coming by the Pats. They were already under the cap to begin with. All I can think of is maybe trading draft picks for Duce Staley...

 
It's probably to pick up a RT or RB.I would have like to seen a trade but his Cap was way high.I would have thought McGinnest before Lawyer.Wow it's going to be strange days in the Pats secondary. The brass must really think the 2 rooks can get the job done long-term.

 
Wouldn't it be a STUDLY move by the Pats to release Milloy in order to clear the space to trade for Walter Jones...Belichick press conference coming in 20 minutes...

 
I'll bet there are 16 teams trying to get ahold of this guy's agent.AFC EAST: Miami, Buffalo, and the Jets will all try for him even if they are full.Pittsburgh and Cinci could use him. So could Cleveland.San Diego needs major help. NFC: Giants and Cowboys. Vikes, Lions, and Bears. THE SAINTS! Almost the whole NFC West too.What was New England thinking. I really am starting to think that cinderella slipper from 2001 is fading and Bellicheck is being shown for what he is. Great DC but a very so so head coach. Dilfer won a SB and is an average QB at best. Maybe you can win a SB and be an average HC too.

 
The safeties on the roster who could replace the 6-0, 210-pound Milloy in the starting lineup are Aric Morris, Chris Akins and Antwan Harris.
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Harris is a pretty nice player. Doesn't hit nearly as hard as Milloy but is quicker in pass coverage. Akins is a much more traditional safety.Still, this one is a TOTAL shocker. If I were the Bills, I'd find a way to add Lawyer to the roster STAT! He's already got the gameplan for this weekend. :wall:
 
Weird move indeed...I guess a lot of teams will hunger to sign this guy. He would be an upgrade to just about any team out there. Which teams still possess the cap space to sign Milloy?

 
Great DC but a very so so head coach.
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This has more to do with cap management (a GM duty) than coaching. Are you honestly of the belief that anything other than coaching won that Super Bowl?
 
I'm pretty sure Arizona is well under the cap. However, it's not thier style to scramble to fill a need so I'd put money down he's not going there.The ONLY think that makes sense to me is that they cut him to clear cap space for another signing. I was also pretty suprised that the Pats cut Patrick Pass too. He was starting to look like he'd pan out.

 
Peter King on WEEI right now...Milloy went from making $500,000 last year to over $4.2 million this year. But King is stunned since keeping Milloy was the only reason to let Tebucky Jones go to the Saints. He says that cutting Milloy is for NEXT YEAR. Brown, Colvin, Brady, McGinest, Phifer, Vrabel, etc... cap numbers next year are VERY ugly. Still, why not deal with that problem in the offseason?

 
Peter King on WEEI right now...Milloy went from making $500,000 last year to over $4.2 million this year. But King is stunned since keeping Milloy was the only reason to let Tebucky Jones go to the Saints. He says that cutting Milloy is for NEXT YEAR. Brown, Colvin, Brady, McGinest, Phifer, Vrabel, etc... cap numbers next year are VERY ugly. Still, why not deal with that problem in the offseason?
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You're right. The cap thing doesn't make any sense unless they have a signing or trade to announce.There's obviously something going on here that we don't know about. Either that, or BB was hitting the sauce pretty heavy this morning.
 
Ty Law's cap number for next year is over NINE MILLION DOLLARS.Methinks the handwriting is on the wall for Mr. Law after this development...

 
Add the Skins and thier boy wonder owner to the list of teams who could use Lawyer. Unlike the Cards, signing him WOULD be Danny's style.

 
cutting Milloy is for NEXT YEAR. Brown, Colvin, Brady, McGinest, Phifer, Vrabel, etc... cap numbers next year are VERY ugly. Still, why not deal with that problem in the offseason?
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This may be exactly the reason: renegotiate a couple key players, give them big 2003 salaries in return for cutting their 2004 (and future) salaries, and you don't have to scrimp and save next year.Harrison fills the Milloy role, not the Tebucky role. Neither is good at pass defense, but Harrison is cheaper. The Pats may feel they are now good enough on run defense with the additions of Harrison, Colvin, Warren, Klecko, etc. that Milloy was an expensive luxury. I don't think this downgrades the Pats defense much, since they should still be much improved on run D, and Lawyer wasn't much of a help on pass D. One speculation: As happy as they are with their young corners (happy enough to release O-T-I-S), I wonder if this signals a move to a 3-4-1-3 defense?
 
I think the Vikes have room under the cap, and they've been talking about adding a safety. This would be an immediate fix to many of the Vikes defensive woes.

 
I really am starting to think that cinderella slipper from 2001 is fading and Bellicheck is being shown for what he is. Great DC but a very so so head coach. Dilfer won a SB and is an average QB at best. Maybe you can win a SB and be an average HC too.
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I don't even know where to start, except to remind you that the GM decides who gets cut, not the head coach... so it's still possible that BB is more than "an average HC" even if you don't like him as a GM...
 
Point taken, Fred. But why so late? I mean, the cap implications that they are dealing with would have been the same if they had done this on JUNE 1st!!!! King is saying that there are very few teams who could afford Milloy at this late date since he won't sign for anything less than a multi-year deal with a big signing bonus.

 
BREAKING SPORTS NEWS: With less than a week to go before their first game, the Patriots today cut Pro Bowl safety and team captain Lawyer Milloy. -- Developing This is what is being reported on the homepage of boston.com. Seems to be true.

 
cutting Milloy is for NEXT YEAR. Brown, Colvin, Brady, McGinest, Phifer, Vrabel, etc... cap numbers next year are VERY ugly. Still, why not deal with that problem in the offseason?
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This may be exactly the reason: renegotiate a couple key players, give them big 2003 salaries in return for cutting their 2004 (and future) salaries, and you don't have to scrimp and save next year.
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So is this a concession that the Patriots are in rebuilding mode?Teams that expect to do well in the upcoming season seldom release pro-bowlers. Next year's salary cap be damned.
 
Arizona and Dallas wouldn't go for Milloy. They have that spot covered and most likely can't afford him. Chances are Milloy will go to a team like Oakland or even St Louis before he'll go to a team like Arizona or Dallas.As for the Vikings, they have about $10 million so they have the room but not the brains, unfortunately.

 
Belichick just stated in the press conference that they do not have someone lined up to come in today or tomorrow. Seems like it is just a cap move to save future years.

 
Belichick just stated in the press conference that they do not have someone lined up to come in today or tomorrow. Seems like it is just a cap move to save future years.
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I was watching the press conference, too. Absolutely mind-numbing. I am speechless.Edit to add: Speechless in a happy way. :yes:
 
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I can't remember the last time a transaction in the NFL actually made me feel ill, but this has done it.

 
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Wow. Not that BB is known for showing his hand but I really hope this is not the case. Again, it just comes down to "why now"?I've always thought the Pats make good moves so I have to believe they know what they are doing. But.... :thumbdown:

 
Point taken, Fred. But why so late? I mean, the cap implications that they are dealing with would have been the same if they had done this on JUNE 1st!!!! King is saying that there are very few teams who could afford Milloy at this late date since he won't sign for anything less than a multi-year deal with a big signing bonus.
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At this point how can he hold out for a multi-year deal with a signing bonus. Wouldn't he be smarter to sign a 1 year deal and then try the FA market in the offseason. If he is too demanding, he could end up sitting out the entire year and that will only hurt him. Just my thoughts.Anyway, I would love it if the Steelers would grab him, but I doubt it. It just isn't their style and I'm not even sure they have the cap room for him. :wall:
 
So, as someone who waited until the last round to grab a defense and went with the Pats... should I just hang myself now? Can they be expected to recover from this?

 
Point taken, Fred. But why so late? I mean, the cap implications that they are dealing with would have been the same if they had done this on JUNE 1st!!!!

King is saying that there are very few teams who could afford Milloy at this late date since he won't sign for anything less than a multi-year deal with a big signing bonus.
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I believe him when he says they have been negotiating all this time, and I'm sure Milloy's agent felt that his leverage increased the closer they got to the regular season. His release shows otherwise. This sends a strong signal to the other players on the team - we don't pay players because they are stars. We pay players what we think they are worth. We'll do everything we can to sign you at that price, but there is no player (e.g. Bledsoe, Milloy) that is bigger than the team.

There's a slim chance that they'll get him back cheaper once he realizes there are few teams that can afford him. Belicheck just acknowledged this as a possibility in the press conference. This is way too strong a negotiation move for my tastes.

 
So, as someone who waited until the last round to grab a defense and went with the Pats... should I just hang myself now? Can they be expected to recover from this?
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it is a bizarre move, but I wouldn't downgrade the Pats too much. BB (and the GM) must know something that we don't. Either way, that is going to be a good fantasy D.
 
Ty Law is due to make in the area of 9 million next year. It is not confirmed, but it has been stated that they have the same agent.

 
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