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Getting a foot in the door

Packers meet with Arrington

By TOM SILVERSTEIN

tsilverstein@journalsentinel.com

Posted: April 10, 2006

Green Bay Packers general manager Ted Thompson has said he's not done in free agency and true to his word, he stuck his toe in the water with former Washington linebacker LaVar Arrington, a three-time Pro Bowl selection.

The Packers scheduled a visit with LaVar Arrington before Brett Favre's comments Saturday.

Arrington, who shares the same agents as free-agent cornerback Charles Woodson, met with Packers officials Monday to discuss the possibility of playing in Green Bay. Arrington and Woodson, who visited Green Bay last week, are the two biggest names left in free agency and are both seeking a big payday.

Arrington bought his way out of his Washington contract after the season, paying back $4.4 million to become a free agent, and reportedly asked for a seven-year, $54 million deal from the New York Giants. The Miami Dolphins appear to be the most interested in Arrington, but they have not been able to meet his price and so he came to see what the Packers had to say.

Neither of Arrington's agents, Carl and Kevin Poston, was available for comment, but a National Football League source said Arrington visited with club officials Monday and left without a contract offer.

Thompson could be using the visit to show quarterback Brett Favre that he isn't sitting on his hands in free agency, particularly in light of Favre's remarks Saturday that he thought the Packers needed to make a statement with a "Reggie White" kind of signing.

But Arrington's visit was arranged a week ago before Favre made his most recent comments and it's thought the Packers have had interest in him for a while. Arrington, 27, is in the prime of his career and would give the Packers star power and leadership on a defense lacking in both areas.

However, he's coming off two unproductive seasons, one because of a knee injury that sidelined him for 12 games and is an issue for some teams that are considering signing him. Last year, he fell in coach Joe Gibbs' doghouse for unspecified reasons and started only nine of the 13 games in which he played.

He finished with 47 tackles, no sacks and no interceptions.

Thompson needs linebackers in the worst way and Arrington, the second overall pick in the 2000 draft out of Penn State, would be able to fill either outside position. Considered one of the best athletes in the game, the 6-foot-3, 255-pound Arrington had 21½ sacks and three interceptions from 2000-'03.

Aside from middle linebacker Nick Barnett, the Packers don't have anyone guaranteed a starting job or of the athletic caliber of Arrington at the position.

Bringing in Arrington and Woodson is one thing, signing them is another. The Poston brothers always seek blockbuster contracts and often times get them. However, the market has thinned out and the competition for both players isn't that great and so it will be harder for them to get their asking price.

In addition to the Packers, Miami, Cincinnati, Jacksonville and the Giants remain in the running for Arrington, who was scheduled to have a $12.045 million salary cap number before being released by Washington.

The Packers also are considering Baltimore backup safety Chad Williams, who made a free-agent visit on Friday. Williams has played in all 64 games for the Ravens since being drafted in the sixth round in 2002. He has four sacks and eight interceptions in his career.

 
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By the sure fact that "no one" has signed him shows that there are some unseen issues with this guy..................... :2cents:

 
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By the sure fact that "no one" has signed him shows that there are some unseen issues with this guy..................... :2cents:
Yup... and their last name is Poston.
 
Heard on the radio this morning Arrington wants $10 mil in guaranteed money. Mike Sherman has wasted more money than that so I say go for it Ted. If Green Bay did sign him it could throw another twist in the first round and might eliminate the chance of Hawk at #5. Williams, Ngata, Davis, Young, trade...

 
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Arrington and Peterson were the top free agents I wanted to see the Packers pursue. Seattle nabbed Peterson but I would love to see Arrington wind up in Green Bay. He'd be a HUGE upgrade at LB for the Packers.

John Clayton said he expects the Packers to be in the mix to try and trade up to No. 2 in the draft to get Mario Williams. If the Packers signed Arrington, Woodson and got Williams in the draft their defense would sure start to look pretty damn interesting.

 
Took them long enough.
I blame Brett Favre.
Well, atleast they are trying to address the defense. Might be a logjam at LB if they signed him since they also brought in Ben Taylor.
Logjam? They really only have Barnett and Taylor....others are coming back from injury...and even I question how good Taylor really is.That said...the took long enough had nothing to do with Favre....they have plenty of money to spend.

As for Arrington...I would not mind it for the right price. TT seems good about not overpaying a guy...we will see.

 
I think I'd prefer to see Woodson signed, but with all the cap the Packers have it needs to be spent somewhere. Which leads me to wonder...if they don't sign either of these guys, I assume they'll redo some contracts with some serious signing bonuses. The question then becomes who? I think he may have already burned his last bridge in GB, but Walker would be a perfect candidate...

 
Arrington and them Drafting Hgati COuld shore up some serious questions about their Defense...
Ngata would help some. They like Colin Cole however and just signed Pickett in the middle. Ngata is more in the mold of the classic Jim Bates defense (that Bob Sanders will try to continue with).Arrington is a great specimen, and I'd like to see him in Green Bay but only if his contract can be structured to take the bulk of the money out of this season's cap instead of future caps. Same with Woodson. I wonder how Packer backer would view him bringing in Woodson, Arrignton, and Mario Williams or Hawk. That might shore up the defense sum. Add to that Pickett and Marquand Manuel, an it would be kind of be tough to say he is Tightwad Ted then huh?

 
Arrington and them Drafting Hgati COuld shore up some serious questions about their Defense...
Ngata would help some. They like Colin Cole however and just signed Pickett in the middle. Ngata is more in the mold of the classic Jim Bates defense (that Bob Sanders will try to continue with).Arrington is a great specimen, and I'd like to see him in Green Bay but only if his contract can be structured to take the bulk of the money out of this season's cap instead of future caps. Same with Woodson. I wonder how Packer backer would view him bringing in Woodson, Arrignton, and Mario Williams or Hawk. That might shore up the defense sum. Add to that Pickett and Marquand Manuel, an it would be kind of be tough to say he is Tightwad Ted then huh?
Signing Arrington and Woodson and drafting Williams would be a huge statement for Thompson to make. Plus he'd still have money under the cap to address the major problems on the interior of the offensive line.
 
Arrington and them Drafting Hgati COuld shore up some serious questions about their Defense...
Plus he'd still have money under the cap to address the major problems on the interior of the offensive line.
Who is left to sign? Maybe they get lucky and Mangold is still there at 2.5, move Wells to G (can he play G even?)...I dunno. Seems TT missed the train with the interior line already.

I'll temper my expectations - Woodson, Hawk, and someone to fill one of the three OG/G holes at 2.5 still leaves us thin inside. But maybe Brett would still be excited knowing the D will be looking better than it has in quite some time.

I would be shocked and awed (and probably a little concerned) if the Pack signed both Woodson and Arrington...surely that would be a LOT of long-term cash spent. Not sure if either are guys we want forever and ever. FA signings are always so risky.
 
Arrington and them Drafting Hgati COuld shore up some serious questions about their Defense...
Ngata would help some. They like Colin Cole however and just signed Pickett in the middle. Ngata is more in the mold of the classic Jim Bates defense (that Bob Sanders will try to continue with).Arrington is a great specimen, and I'd like to see him in Green Bay but only if his contract can be structured to take the bulk of the money out of this season's cap instead of future caps. Same with Woodson. I wonder how Packer backer would view him bringing in Woodson, Arrignton, and Mario Williams or Hawk. That might shore up the defense sum. Add to that Pickett and Marquand Manuel, an it would be kind of be tough to say he is Tightwad Ted then huh?
NGata would be a waste given the dept at DT and the needs elsewhere.Pickett, Jenkins, Cole, Washtington, Williams. All solid...all young.

 
Who is left to sign? Maybe they get lucky and Mangold is still there at 2.5, move Wells to G (can he play G even?)...I dunno. Seems TT missed the train with the interior line already.

I'll temper my expectations - Woodson, Hawk, and someone to fill one of the three OG/G holes at 2.5 still leaves us thin inside. But maybe Brett would still be excited knowing the D will be looking better than it has in quite some time.

I would be shocked and awed (and probably a little concerned) if the Pack signed both Woodson and Arrington...surely that would be a LOT of long-term cash spent. Not sure if either are guys we want forever and ever. FA signings are always so risky.
I agree. I doubt he signs both. He is not a big free agency fan. He may have missed the boat on the guards as well. But this will be a zone blocking system now so it will be interesting to see how the current players adapt. Also, they are very high on Junius Coston, who missed his rookie season with injury last year.Also, starting interior linemen can often be found after round 1. Recently, players not selected in round 1 like Dan Buenning, Dan Koppen, Dave Diehl, and Montrae Holland all had excellent rookie campaigns. Heck Ron Wolf selected Chad Clifton and Mark Tauscher both after round 1 and both started for the Packers their entire rookie campaigns.

 
I don't think he'll sign both either but adding Arrington, Woodson and Williams would be a major statement to make and would certainly get a lot of the critics off his back IMO. I would be happy if he signed Arrington and moved up to get Williams.

With regard to the line I don't know if there's anybody out there either but it's obviously a MAJOR problem area and needs to be addressed. He's going to have to bargain hunt in free agency and/or address it in the draft. He has a lot of work to do, no question about that.

 
I'd jerk myself silly til my goods fell off if they signed Arrington and Woodson and drafted Williams!

 
Arrington and them Drafting Hgati COuld shore up some serious questions about their Defense...
Ngata would help some. They like Colin Cole however and just signed Pickett in the middle. Ngata is more in the mold of the classic Jim Bates defense (that Bob Sanders will try to continue with).Arrington is a great specimen, and I'd like to see him in Green Bay but only if his contract can be structured to take the bulk of the money out of this season's cap instead of future caps. Same with Woodson. I wonder how Packer backer would view him bringing in Woodson, Arrignton, and Mario Williams or Hawk. That might shore up the defense sum. Add to that Pickett and Marquand Manuel, an it would be kind of be tough to say he is Tightwad Ted then huh?
NGata would be a waste given the dept at DT and the needs elsewhere.Pickett, Jenkins, Cole, Washtington, Williams. All solid...all young.
I like their DT's now. It could always be better, but I'd much rather see them go elsewhere on defensive upgrades.
 
Arrington and them Drafting Hgati COuld shore up some serious questions about their Defense...
Ngata would help some. They like Colin Cole however and just signed Pickett in the middle. Ngata is more in the mold of the classic Jim Bates defense (that Bob Sanders will try to continue with).Arrington is a great specimen, and I'd like to see him in Green Bay but only if his contract can be structured to take the bulk of the money out of this season's cap instead of future caps. Same with Woodson. I wonder how Packer backer would view him bringing in Woodson, Arrignton, and Mario Williams or Hawk. That might shore up the defense sum. Add to that Pickett and Marquand Manuel, an it would be kind of be tough to say he is Tightwad Ted then huh?
NGata would be a waste given the dept at DT and the needs elsewhere.Pickett, Jenkins, Cole, Washtington, Williams. All solid...all young.
I like their DT's now. It could always be better, but I'd much rather see them go elsewhere on defensive upgrades.
Exactly. I think Cole will be a future stud...and as I said we have youth and depth there....too many other needs than to waste an early pick on a DT.
 
Arrington and Peterson were the top free agents I wanted to see the Packers pursue. Seattle nabbed Peterson but I would love to see Arrington wind up in Green Bay. He'd be a HUGE upgrade at LB for the Packers.

John Clayton said he expects the Packers to be in the mix to try and trade up to No. 2 in the draft to get Mario Williams. If the Packers signed Arrington, Woodson and got Williams in the draft their defense would sure start to look pretty damn interesting.
Don't you think it's more likely that Thompson will trade down rather than trading up? I think Thompson would rather acquire more picks in a trading down deal (broncos??) rather than losing picks and trading up.
 
Pickett, Jenkins, Cole, Washtington, Williams. All solid...all young.

I give you all young. But all solid?

:unsure:

I don;t know about that. IMO none of them will bring what Ngata could. But I can see your point, make due with what they have and upgrade ina much more needed area... or trade down.

 
I think I'd prefer to see Woodson signed, but with all the cap the Packers have it needs to be spent somewhere. Which leads me to wonder...if they don't sign either of these guys, I assume they'll redo some contracts with some serious signing bonuses. The question then becomes who? I think he may have already burned his last bridge in GB, but Walker would be a perfect candidate...
You are either a Bears, Vikings or Lions fan.
 
I'd jerk myself silly til my goods fell off if they signed Arrington and Woodson and drafted Williams!
If they paid Arrington and Woodson what they are asking currently, you'd need to jerk yourself silly just to get over the pain of vastly overpaying for two questionable talents like Lavar and Woodson.
 
Arrington and them Drafting Hgati COuld shore up some serious questions about their Defense...
Ngata would help some. They like Colin Cole however and just signed Pickett in the middle. Ngata is more in the mold of the classic Jim Bates defense (that Bob Sanders will try to continue with).Arrington is a great specimen, and I'd like to see him in Green Bay but only if his contract can be structured to take the bulk of the money out of this season's cap instead of future caps. Same with Woodson. I wonder how Packer backer would view him bringing in Woodson, Arrignton, and Mario Williams or Hawk. That might shore up the defense sum. Add to that Pickett and Marquand Manuel, an it would be kind of be tough to say he is Tightwad Ted then huh?
NGata would be a waste given the dept at DT and the needs elsewhere.Pickett, Jenkins, Cole, Washtington, Williams. All solid...all young.
I like their DT's now. It could always be better, but I'd much rather see them go elsewhere on defensive upgrades.
Arrington, Hawk and Barnett = :ph34r:
 
Arrington and Peterson were the top free agents I wanted to see the Packers pursue. Seattle nabbed Peterson but I would love to see Arrington wind up in Green Bay. He'd be a HUGE upgrade at LB for the Packers.

John Clayton said he expects the Packers to be in the mix to try and trade up to No. 2 in the draft to get Mario Williams. If the Packers signed Arrington, Woodson and got Williams in the draft their defense would sure start to look pretty damn interesting.
Don't you think it's more likely that Thompson will trade down rather than trading up? I think Thompson would rather acquire more picks in a trading down deal (broncos??) rather than losing picks and trading up.
:goodposting: The only way he trades up is if he thinks Williams is the second comming of Reggie White. Now, I know the kid is freekishly good, but he aint that good.

 
Heard Arrington talking about the Packers this morning and he wants to know their QB situation before he would decide to sign with them. Anyone want to defend Favre now that it may cost them a FA signing?

 
I'd jerk myself silly til my goods fell off if they signed Arrington and Woodson and drafted Williams!
If they paid Arrington and Woodson what they are asking currently, you'd need to jerk yourself silly just to get over the pain of vastly overpaying for two questionable talents like Lavar and Woodson.
Probably, but their questionable talent would still be an upgrade. I'd be willing to take a gamble on either since they need the help, however I don't think either will be signed. I also don't know if it would be any worse than the questionable talent Sherman had overpaid for.It hasn't been the most exciting offseason for the Pack so far. Some decent signings, but nothing to get me hard. I'll take anything I can get right now.

 
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Heard Arrington talking about the Packers this morning and he wants to know their QB situation before he would decide to sign with them. Anyone want to defend Favre now that it may cost them a FA signing?
:rolleyes: :hophead: :nerd: you're a loser. we don't need another 'I hate Favre' thread.
 
Arrington and them Drafting Hgati COuld shore up some serious questions about their Defense...
Ngata would help some. They like Colin Cole however and just signed Pickett in the middle. Ngata is more in the mold of the classic Jim Bates defense (that Bob Sanders will try to continue with).Arrington is a great specimen, and I'd like to see him in Green Bay but only if his contract can be structured to take the bulk of the money out of this season's cap instead of future caps. Same with Woodson. I wonder how Packer backer would view him bringing in Woodson, Arrignton, and Mario Williams or Hawk. That might shore up the defense sum. Add to that Pickett and Marquand Manuel, an it would be kind of be tough to say he is Tightwad Ted then huh?
NGata would be a waste given the dept at DT and the needs elsewhere.Pickett, Jenkins, Cole, Washtington, Williams. All solid...all young.
I like their DT's now. It could always be better, but I'd much rather see them go elsewhere on defensive upgrades.
Arrington, Hawk and Barnett = :ph34r:
Do it! :football:
 
I think I'd prefer to see Woodson signed, but with all the cap the Packers have it needs to be spent somewhere.  Which leads me to wonder...if they don't sign either of these guys, I assume they'll redo some contracts with some serious signing bonuses.  The question then becomes who?  I think he may have already burned his last bridge in GB, but Walker would be a perfect candidate...
You are either a Bears, Vikings or Lions fan.
Thanks for straigtening me out. :thumbdown: I suppose you're sold on Ahmad Carroll then? I'm not enamoured with Woodsen, but I'd really like to see Mr. Grabby moved into the slot where he belongs.

I have concerns over Arrington's character. Nothing in the TO level, but any time a guy is benched for half a season due to philosophical differences with his coaches, that's a red flag to me.

I *think* either would help our D out. Arrington undoubtedly is much more talented at this stage of his career, but there's more to it than that IMO.

 
Heard Arrington talking about the Packers this morning and he wants to know their QB situation before he would decide to sign with them. Anyone want to defend Favre now that it may cost them a FA signing?
Why? Because of all the passes he's going to catch? If true, this is beyond idiotic. As is your Favre bashing.
 
Heard Arrington talking about the Packers this morning and he wants to know their QB situation before he would decide to sign with them. Anyone want to defend Favre now that it may cost them a FA signing?
:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
 
Packers have the cap room to meet his absurd contract demands. I believe Arrington will sign with Green Bay, and they will, as I predicted, bypass Hawk to draft Haloti Ngata with the 5th pick.

:crystalball:

 
Arrington and them Drafting Hgati COuld shore up some serious questions about their Defense...
Ngata would help some. They like Colin Cole however and just signed Pickett in the middle. Ngata is more in the mold of the classic Jim Bates defense (that Bob Sanders will try to continue with).Arrington is a great specimen, and I'd like to see him in Green Bay but only if his contract can be structured to take the bulk of the money out of this season's cap instead of future caps. Same with Woodson. I wonder how Packer backer would view him bringing in Woodson, Arrignton, and Mario Williams or Hawk. That might shore up the defense sum. Add to that Pickett and Marquand Manuel, an it would be kind of be tough to say he is Tightwad Ted then huh?
I agree with you here. They could look into giving them both substantial roster bonuses for 2006 similar to what the Vikings did a couple of years ago with Antoine Winfield. That boosts their salary up for 2006 while clearing room for subsequent years. This would be an excellent move except both Woodson and Arrington have been known malcontents and you'd worry about their motivation after getting paid. However, if I cleared them both medically, a big concern for both, I'd gamble on it just because of their talent. I see Woodson as a guy who could move to free safety as well, lengthening his career. I find your ananlysis on this possible scenario to be a most excellent plan. :goodposting:

 
Arrington and Peterson were the top free agents I wanted to see the Packers pursue. Seattle nabbed Peterson but I would love to see Arrington wind up in Green Bay. He'd be a HUGE upgrade at LB for the Packers.

John Clayton said he expects the Packers to be in the mix to try and trade up to No. 2 in the draft to get Mario Williams. If the Packers signed Arrington, Woodson and got Williams in the draft their defense would sure start to look pretty damn interesting.
Don't you think it's more likely that Thompson will trade down rather than trading up? I think Thompson would rather acquire more picks in a trading down deal (broncos??) rather than losing picks and trading up.
I think it's possible he trades down - especially if he's not sold on Hawk being a dominant player and doesn't want to go with Davis as a Top 5 pick. Clayton seemed convinced the Packers will be in the hunt for the No. 2 pick. If Thompson does trade down I hope he considers the proposal I threw out yesterday -- Walker and the fifth pick to Denver for Lelie and their two first-round picks. I'm not a big Lelie fan but that's a trade I'd consider if I was the Packers and wasn't sold on the fifth pick.
 
Heard Arrington talking about the Packers this morning and he wants to know their QB situation before he would decide to sign with them.
:link: otherwise :fishing:
:confused:
Where did he HEAR this? Radio, News, or around the water cooler at the office?
No link from me, but I've heard the same thing from other folks. Apparently, Arrington was on Cold Pizza this morning and that's where he talked about the Packers and wanting to find out Favre's plans. He apparently said he plans to call Favre or wants to talk to him personally.
 
Heard Arrington talking about the Packers this morning and he wants to know their QB situation before he would decide to sign with them. Anyone want to defend Favre now that it may cost them a FA signing?
Right on. :thumbup: Favre wants more free agent help, but with his protracted retirement soap opera, is he not costing the team legit shots at premier FA's? Is he or is he not one of the bigger bargaining chips the franchise has when sitting down at the negotiating table during free agency?

 
Heard Arrington talking about the Packers this morning and he wants to know their QB situation before he would decide to sign with them.
:link: otherwise :fishing:
:confused:
Where did he HEAR this? Radio, News, or around the water cooler at the office?
No link from me, but I've heard the same thing from other folks. Apparently, Arrington was on Cold Pizza this morning and that's where he talked about the Packers and wanting to find out Favre's plans. He apparently said he plans to call Favre or wants to talk to him personally.
That's what I wanted to know. Gives credibility to what Dhamon ShadowHawk posted. Thanks for the FYI packersfan :thumbup:

 
Favre wants more free agent help, but with his protracted retirement soap opera, is he not costing the team legit shots at premier FA's?
Nope. Numerous reasons. First and foremost, Arrington represents the first "premier" free agent Thompson has pursued. The Packers haven't lost out on any other premier free agents because Thompson hasn't tried to sign any.Keep in mind if the Favre situation had prevented the Packers from signing a prominent free agent that wouldn't be kept a secret. Agents want to give the impression their clients are getting more interest, not less. So if the Packers were interested in Player A as an example, the agent would let people know. And if the Packers had strong interest in Player A, the agent would also let people know. In both situations the agent is raising the stakes for his client by showing how more teams are interested. And finally, if the Packers did have strong interest and a player signed elsewhere the reason why the player signed elsewhere (for the sake of this discussion let's say it's because of the uncertainty with Favre) would also come to light.

 
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Newsflash guys.  Woodson is garbage.
Have you seen Ahmad Carroll play???Anyone's an improvement over that bum.
Absolutely. I'm under no illusions about Woodson but I do know he'd be a monumental upgrade over Carroll.
So draft one of the 50000 DBs in the up-coming draft who will be an upgrade for a fraction of Woodsons asking price.
 

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