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Monty Burns
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Seems like the Bronco's will go to almost any resort to win. Watching the replay, all the Bronco's were in their stance for the spike. Plummer was signaling for the spike. The Chiefs just lined up, some, including Igor, not even in a down stance, awaiting the inevetable spike. At the snap Plummer took a step back and spiked the ball. The only other Bronco to move was Nalen who took the cheap shot at an upright Igor's knees. After thinking about it I think Nalen did this intentionally to try to provoke Igor into retaliation. Obviously it worked and the Chargers got penalized 15 yards and Igor was ejected, slightly improving Denvers slim hope to get the tying (assuming a good 2 point conversion) TD. Add this to McCaffrey "got poked in the eye" fake a while back, the 2 league penalties for salary cap cheating and the numerous cut block injuries inflicted by them, and you see a team, IMO, that shows total disrespect for the game, in order to further their teams agenda of winning at any cost. Rant over...... 
Courtjester
The Town Drunk
Alot of 
going on in here.....
going on in here.....
jonessed
Footballguy
Crying? The guy got fined and I don't think anyone was expecting the NFL to notice. I wish there was more to it, but I'll take this. Condoning cheapshots puts you in a pretty low category.Alot of
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pinequick
Footballguy
I've always wondered this--payback of sorts. One DL engages the offending OL, while another DL "accidentally" falls on his knee.DL need to unite and send a message. "We're mad as hell, and we're not going to take it anymore!!!"I still wonder why defensive linemen don't go low on them from time to time. Oops, I tripped!
pinequick
Footballguy
Cheapshots in FOOTBALL? *gasp!!* Now pass me another cucumber sandwich. . .Crying? The guy got fined and I don't think anyone was expecting the NFL to notice. I wish there was more to it, but I'll take this. Condoning cheapshots puts you in a pretty low category, but I would expect you to be bitter.Alot of
redman
Footballguy
I've always wondered this--payback of sorts. One DL engages the offending OL, while another DL "accidentally" falls on his knee.DL need to unite and send a message. "We're mad as hell, and we're not going to take it anymore!!!"I still wonder why defensive linemen don't go low on them from time to time. Oops, I tripped!
Especially with interior linemen who tend to turn one way or another to engage blockers.Hmm.. I don't see a lot of crying going on. I see a couple of comments from people that think that Tom Nalen's actions on a particular play on Sunday were cheap and dirty. And it appears that the NFL agrees with them.Alot of
Courtjester
The Town Drunk
I think it was a cheap shot (and if you look at the in-game thread) I said the exact same thing.I am more responding to the other posters list of Bronco's transgressions when you could do that with any NFL team out there.Hmm.. I don't see a lot of crying going on. I see a couple of comments from people that think that Tom Nalen's actions on a particular play on Sunday were cheap and dirty. And it appears that the NFL agrees with them.Alot of
Mungo Burrows
Footballguy
Because they have gap responsibilities?I still wonder why defensive linemen don't go low on them from time to time. Oops, I tripped!
redman
Footballguy
Yeah, but if you're on the back side of a play going away from you . . .Because they have gap responsibilities?I still wonder why defensive linemen don't go low on them from time to time. Oops, I tripped!
I'm pleasantly shocked. I thought Olshanski might be suspended for a game or two, and nothing at all would happen to Nalen.
The league office actually saw this one for what it was.
The league office actually saw this one for what it was.
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Gr00vus
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Why would you say that?Back on topic, Nalen should have been suspended for a game as well at least - not only was it dirty, it was just plain stupid.
EdwardCat
Footballguy
Don't respond to the trolls and they will have no reason to keep posting.Hmm.. I don't see a lot of crying going on. I see a couple of comments from people that think that Tom Nalen's actions on a particular play on Sunday were cheap and dirty. And it appears that the NFL agrees with them.Alot of
Jack Burton
Footballguy
The worst of it was how Marty completely carved Olshansky right on the field in front of millions. The bast- tard didnt defend his own player, who only reacted instinctively to a dirty rotten no good cheapshot. Marty wont win a super bowl because he doesnt back his players thick or thin. he doesnt trust em to not screw it up.
Dont rip a player on the feild like that. Do it behind the scenes in the locker room or your office jerknuts!
Nalen is a miserable bag of puke!
Dont rip a player on the feild like that. Do it behind the scenes in the locker room or your office jerknuts!
Nalen is a miserable bag of puke!
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
Bronco's oline have been cheap shot artists for years.
i remember a few years back they took out Jamal williams with dirty play, cracked his ankle.
i remember a few years back they took out Jamal williams with dirty play, cracked his ankle.
That is the exact opposite of Vince Lombardi's style, by the way. (Not that that makes it right or wrong. Different coaches have different styles. But Lombardi's way -- humiliating players in front of their teammates, but encouraging them in private -- definitely worked for him.)
KnowledgeReignsSupreme
Footballguy
That's only acceptable in jail.redman said:I still wonder why defensive linemen don't go low on them from time to time. Oops, I tripped!
KnowledgeReignsSupreme
Footballguy
I agree with Nalen getting fined. That was a cheapshot plain and simple, although it did have it's intended penalty 
effect.
effect.
Wadsworth
Footballguy
Cato June twice in the Jags/Colts game this year played past the whistle and then flopped when Jaguar players responded. Both times the refs rewarded him play with a flag on the Jaguars. I really hope this kind of garbage doesn't become common in the NFL. It can change games and by the time the NFL reveiws the tape it's too late.I agree with Nalen getting fined. That was a cheapshot plain and simple, although it did have it's intended penalty
MSULions
Footballguy
THat is awesome! 
Has anyone considered the possibility that Nalen was just trying to draw a flag? Nalen didn't even touch the guy. Nalen has been a pro bowl player in the past and I for one believe that if he really really wanted to take a guy out, that he would have gotten the job done. I think it's a possibility that he was not trying to hurt him at all. He was trying to draw a penalty and it worked. He didn't even make contact for God's sake.For the record: I am not sure I agree with what I just typed above. I just felt compelled to at least offer up another possibility that I haven't seen mentioned before. I also don't know if it is appropriate for a guy who missed on an apparent attempted cheap shot deserves a bigger fine than the guy who connected on his cheap shot. Oh yes, Igor's shot at Nalen was a cheap shot whether you feel Nalen deserved it or not. I can't argue with the people who believe Nalen should be suspended, you have a legitimate argument. However, Igor was caught red handed (smoking gun you could say) In my opinion, any player who punches another player should get a 1 game suspension no questions asked.Cato June twice in the Jags/Colts game this year played past the whistle and then flopped when Jaguar players responded. Both times the refs rewarded him play with a flag on the Jaguars. I really hope this kind of garbage doesn't become common in the NFL. It can change games and by the time the NFL reveiws the tape it's too late.I agree with Nalen getting fined. That was a cheapshot plain and simple, although it did have it's intended penalty
OK, Yeah, but barely. I still think that if Nalen was as cheap as everyone is making him out to be that he would have hit him harder. I don't think his intent was to injure but was to draw the penalty. But like I said in my last post, I am far from certain, just need to consider all possibilities.
pizzatyme
Footballguy
Cato June twice in the Jags/Colts game this year played past the whistle and then flopped when Jaguar players responded. Both times the refs rewarded him play with a flag on the Jaguars. I really hope this kind of garbage doesn't become common in the NFL. It can change games and by the time the NFL reveiws the tape it's too late.I agree with Nalen getting fined. That was a cheapshot plain and simple, although it did have it's intended penalty
What a load of crap, coming in here making a claim like this without providing a clip?! However, this seems like something I'd expect from you. 
Wadsworth
Footballguy
Didn't you see the game?Cato June twice in the Jags/Colts game this year played past the whistle and then flopped when Jaguar players responded. Both times the refs rewarded him play with a flag on the Jaguars. I really hope this kind of garbage doesn't become common in the NFL. It can change games and by the time the NFL reveiws the tape it's too late.I agree with Nalen getting fined. That was a cheapshot plain and simple, although it did have it's intended penalty
mad sweeney
Footballguy
While I agree in part, Igor needs to keep his head. His retaliation put the Broncos in a better position to tie. Personally, I don't blame his actions especially since he just got back out on the firld last week. But you have to use your head and NOT take stupid penalties. It's also very likely that Marty didn't see the cheap shot and was going off on him for a personal foul at a stupid, critical time. A team needs discipline to go far in the playoffs. And whether Nalen deserved it or not, the retaliation is almost always going to draw the foul and hurt the team. If you lose the game because of it, who cares that the NFL deemed it somehwat justifiable. And after seeing the replay I'm sure Marty had some mitigating words for Igor. But bottom line, keep your head.Jack Burton said:
Ghost Rider
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His comments about Nalen were on the money, as it was a cheap shot, but his comments about Denver only being able to run the ball because they hold is a laugh. Someone should tell him that every team in the league holds at some point on running plays. To single the Broncos out for it is pretty dumb, but he was probably still a bit aggravated about the cheap shot, so I can understand his frustration.
Elway Lives
Footballguy
I would really like to hear Nalen's take on what happened. If he really was trying to take out the guys knees, he sure seemed to do a half-assed job of it. Almost looked like he didn't know it was going to be a spike, although I have no idea why he wouldn't have known.
flapgreen
Footballguy
flapgreen
Footballguy
That's not what i saw all.
TLEF316
Footballguy
Take off the homer glasses. TIAwatch the you tube video. He snaps the ball, stands straight up, and then dives for his Olshanksy's knee. If you cant see that, you are blind. plain and simple
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TLEF316
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No, Igor's response wasnt a cheap shot. If you do what he did (late dive at a knee after a freaking spike play) you deserve whatever comes your way. A cheap shot, by definition, is an unprovoked attack outside the rules of game. Igor's punches (which hit nalen's helmet, not an unprotected, recently injured body part) were not cheap. Were they illegal? Yes. And as a result, he was fined. However, Nalen was the instigator here and deserves 95% of the blame for the incident. Whether it was intended to injure or just to draw a flag, it was as bush league as bush league gets, and IMO, deserves a suspension.
BusMan
Footballguy
That cheap shot just doesn't seem like the kind of thing you'd do if you had to line up against that same guy twice every year. I'm really not sure what Nalen was thinking there. Anyone know why he didn't get flagged for a penalty? Did the refs not see it?Gr00vus said:
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redman
Footballguy
Exactly. That was arguably the most important division game that San Diego will have played all year. The Broncos were driving for a score. You can't lose your head.
Gargoylez
Footballguy
I agree with the 15 yard penalty, I agree with the fine.But if you saw that play, the offense knew it was a spike. and he STILL went after his legs???I am just a simple man, but to me thats intent to injure. NOT play football. Igor was defensing himself. Yeah he should of restrained, but sometimes when your LIVELYHOOD is on the line you tend to make some rash decisions. I am surprised he didn't body slam the dumb MFer.Again, he should of NOT hit Nalen... I dont condone it. My problem lays with Michaels and Madden. Iw as talking to my friend while watching the game and I was LIKE WTF!!! He tried to take out his legs!! and Madden and michaels were absolutely CLUELESS. Never mentioned ANYTHING about Nalen trying to take out his knees. Just about how Igor was dumb for doing that.... Me and my friend were like.... crackerjack reporting AGAIN... way to go Al and John, way to stay on top of things.Gr00vus said:
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Despyzer
Lousy Attention Whore
It's not an action that is in violation of the rules of the game, but it is in violation of the policy of the league. Therefore, no penalty - just a fine.
redman
Footballguy
This is where the NFL Players Association looks weak. They have one of their members attempting to injure, or at best attempting to bait by looking like they're attempting to injure, another member and they're silent on the matter.
Legally, from a civil standpoint even if Nalen was simply trying to induce the retaliatory personal foul, what he did amounts to assault (again, civil assault, not criminal assault). We come down hard on guys like Haynesworth who intentionally act out and actually connect on the other person (civil battery), so why is civil assault any more acceptable on a football field?
Legally, from a civil standpoint even if Nalen was simply trying to induce the retaliatory personal foul, what he did amounts to assault (again, civil assault, not criminal assault). We come down hard on guys like Haynesworth who intentionally act out and actually connect on the other person (civil battery), so why is civil assault any more acceptable on a football field?
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Man in the yellow hat
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I agree on the Denver scheme thing you're saying here. This is just stupid, and he sounds like a big whiner. The only reason they run the ball is because they hold and the refs don't call it? Yeah, OK Igor. This is the same dumb crap the Vikings D line was saying about Green Bay's new zone blocking scheme. They don't play power football so they're wussies. Whatever. The sheme calls for them to block a certain way. The offensive lineman who play in the scheme are a certain body style. They aren't going to maul you. They're going to cut you, an out-athletic the d lineman when they can.
Apparently, this scheme works pretty well based on the success of Denver and Atlanta.
redman
Footballguy
'Roid rage?
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