League setup question (1 Viewer)

[Rig24]

I Play in a TD-only league made up of mostly long time friends, the league has been around for 11 years. Four teams make the playoffs each year. This year one of the division winners had a fairly poor team that just squeaked into the division championship. According to the league power rankings, this team was in the bottom 4th.

The commissioner of the league played this team in the first round of the playoffs. On Saturday, after the Thursday game, the commissioner posted a suggestion that the league should change its format at not allow a bottom 4th team into the playoffs. Instead they should be replaced by the highest power ranking team that didn't make the playoffs. Not this year of course, but next year and on.

Has anyone ever seen this type of league rule before? Does anyone see an merit in it? This has the potential to tear the league apart.

Opinions appreciated.

 

[Swamprat]

Let me get this straight. He wants to eliminate a division winner if they have a bad record?

Let me guess, he lost to this bad team

 

[Rig24]

Let me get this straight. He wants to eliminate a division winner if they have a bad record? Let me guess, he lost to this bad team

Not because they have a bad record, but because they are a weak team. Kinda the opposite of when you are leading the league in points but still have a losing record. They are at the bottom of the league in points and have a winning record. He is referring to this team as an unworthy playoff team that should be eliminated from playoff competition. And yes, he did lose...

 

[theToes]

If you win your division you should be in the playoffs regardless of record. He can't go changing rules just because he lost in the playoffs.

In one of my leagues I was 11-3. 4 teams make the playoffs. Two other division winners were 7-7. I went in as the wild card and lost to the other 11-3 team. ##it happens.

 

[mwaldo13]

If you want to eliminate a winning record with lowest rank team (usually low scoring), then you might as well put in the team with the most points scored, even if they have a losing record.

Why even play the games head-to-head? You just make it a rotisserie league.

 

[Rig24]

If you want to eliminate a winning record with lowest rank team (usually low scoring), then you might as well put in the team with the most points scored, even if they have a losing record. Why even play the games head-to-head? You just make it a rotisserie league.

I don't think the sarcasm is needed there. It is basically doing the exact same thing!

 

[mwaldo13]

If you want to eliminate a winning record with lowest rank team (usually low scoring), then you might as well put in the team with the most points scored, even if they have a losing record. Why even play the games head-to-head? You just make it a rotisserie league.

I don't thing the sarcasm is needed there. It is basically doing the exact same thing!

That's my point. If you are going to have divisions, then the division winners -- all of them -- should make the playoffs. If you want to eliminate a weak division winner, then what's the point?

 

[Swamprat]

Let me get this straight. He wants to eliminate a division winner if they have a bad record? Let me guess, he lost to this bad team

Not because they have a bad record, but because they are a weak team. Kinda the opposite of when you are leading the league in points but still have a losing record. They are at the bottom of the league in points and have a winning record. He is referring to this team as an unworthy playoff team that should be eliminated from playoff competition. And yes, he did lose...

My bad, I need to learn to read but I still give his idea a If you're playing H2H then the division winners should go to the playoffs regardless of total points or record.

 

[Ned]

Let me get this straight. He wants to eliminate a division winner if they have a bad record? Let me guess, he lost to this bad team

Not because they have a bad record, but because they are a weak team. Kinda the opposite of when you are leading the league in points but still have a losing record. They are at the bottom of the league in points and have a winning record. He is referring to this team as an unworthy playoff team that should be eliminated from playoff competition. And yes, he did lose...

and if he wouldve played the team that fit this new rule he wouldve won, right?

 

[Resident A]

I've been playing FF for 15 years. Every year in my league, a top team gets upset by a low seed that "shouldn't have even made the playoff" in most owner's minds.

The team who was just beaten by a lesser team always starts a fuss & wants to switch to a total points league next year, or some other nonsense. They get over it after a few weeks & all goes back to normal.

The reason for H2H leagues is that any team can win on any given Sunday, just like the NFL.

 

[Foosball God]

If you're going to have a league like this, why even have a won/loss record? Just use total points for the season.

 

[code]

And yes, he did lose...

Then I'd say the team is question couldn't be that bad now could they

 

[Rig24]

Let me get this straight. He wants to eliminate a division winner if they have a bad record? Let me guess, he lost to this bad team

Not because they have a bad record, but because they are a weak team. Kinda the opposite of when you are leading the league in points but still have a losing record. They are at the bottom of the league in points and have a winning record. He is referring to this team as an unworthy playoff team that should be eliminated from playoff competition. And yes, he did lose...

and if he wouldve played the team that fit this new rule he wouldve won, right?

That has been brought up. He is stating that it is not about him or his team. He just wants to see a worthy team win the league. Worst part is that the "un-worthy" team is a new owner who will most likely not be back next year as he is feeling attacked by the commish.

 

[Rig24]

If you're going to have a league like this, why even have a won/loss record? Just use total points for the season.

Actaully there are a few teams that are now pushing for it. I really don't want to wake up on Tuesday mornings as think "great, I just moved 10 points closer to a playoff spot". H2H is what makes the league fun, you get to taunt buddies when you beat them. Where is the fun in saying "I outscored 10 teams this week"?

 

[Rig24]

Another reason the commish is using, is that he is trying to eliminate the "luck factor" in fantasy football.

 

[garyd]

So called "weak" teams with winning records and the luck factor are inherent aspects of the H2H format...that's just the way it is and you live with it if that's the format you use. However, it is OK to try to minimize those aspects with changes to the format if your league wants to go that way. But the change your commish has proposed is not the way to do it. In a H2H league it would be more unfair to exclude a team from the playoffs that had a winning record and won its division than for a team that scored a lot of points but lost too many games to make it.

 

[Rig24]

Thanks for the replys, I wanted to make sure I wasn't being unreasonable.

Now comes the question on how we can satisfy everyone as there are now 4 owners wanting a change (thanks for staring this commish!)

As of right now we have 4 teams each in 3 divisions. I came up with the solution of having all teams in one division and the schedule should work things out. The "bad" team that got in plays in a pretty bad division overall.

If anyone has a better idea that doesn't end in going to a point system I would love to hear it.

 

[Swamprat]

Thanks for the replys, I wanted to make sure I wasn't being unreasonable. Now comes the question on how we can satisfy everyone as there are now 4 owners wanting a change (thanks for staring this commish!)As of right now we have 4 teams each in 3 divisions. I came up with the solution of having all teams in one division and the schedule should work things out. The "bad" team that got in plays in a pretty bad division overall.If anyone has a better idea that doesn't end in going to a point system I would love to hear it.

In one of my leagues the wildcard team is the team with the highest total points that doesn't win its division. However you can have the opposite situation where a team with lesser record makes the playoffs. Are your other 8 owners against changing the format? If so, you don't have anything to worry about.

 

[Rig24]

Thanks for the replys, I wanted to make sure I wasn't being unreasonable. Now comes the question on how we can satisfy everyone as there are now 4 owners wanting a change (thanks for staring this commish!)As of right now we have 4 teams each in 3 divisions. I came up with the solution of having all teams in one division and the schedule should work things out. The "bad" team that got in plays in a pretty bad division overall.If anyone has a better idea that doesn't end in going to a point system I would love to hear it.

In one of my leagues the wildcard team is the team with the highest total points that doesn't win its division. However you can have the opposite situation where a team with lesser record makes the playoffs. Are your other 8 owners against changing the format? If so, you don't have anything to worry about.

Nah, we have 2 or 3 on the fence and a few that really don't care and just want to have a league with their friends. So I could really see two of the change owners talking others into going with what they want.