League up in arms over my trade for AP (1 Viewer)

[Sebowski]

PPR

Team A gets: Forte, Mendenhall, Palmer, and Garcon

Team B gets: AP

All 4 of of the guys received for AP will start for team A

Team A's new lineup

Palmer

Forte

Mendy

S.Smith (CAR)

Berrian

Garcon

T. Gonzo

Steelers D

Bench:

Matt Ryan (was starter)

Betts(would be starter after losing Ronnie Brown

Feilx

Faulk

Ward

Bruce

A.Gonzo

Kelly Washington (was starter)

My new lineup

Favre

Rice

AP

Colston

Driver

Mason

Celek

AZ/Jets D

Bench

M.Bush

V.Young

Chambers

TO

Royal

Cooley

Finely

 

[numberSE7EN]

Keeper league or Redraft?

 

[urbanhack]

flex rooster?

 

[PantherPower]

Doesn't think it matters what type of league it is. There's nothing wrong with that trade. I've seen so many in leagues this year 10x worse.

 

[Knobs]

They're simply upset they didn't land Peterson. Tell them to shut up and make a move next time. There is nothing whatsoever wrong with that deal

 

[PhantomJB]

You gave up too much IMO

 

[PewterFan]

You gave up too much IMO

Could it be that they are upset that you gave up so much? Either way show them this thread. They are being silly.

 

[Mik789fl]

The question was is it a "legit" trade,I'd say yes,I think you gave up too much for AP,but I see no problem with it.

 

[Sebowski]

Redraft

Flex rosters

Does anyone see there side of it? They are really complaining about it

 

[Follows Closely]

RedraftFlex rostersDoes anyone see there side of it? They are really complaining about it

I assume they are complaining you gave up too much?

 

[Sweet Love]

RedraftFlex rostersDoes anyone see there side of it? They are really complaining about it

I don't see anything wrong with the trade, but if you are trying to find out why they me upset, I will ask this question. What place were you in before the trade an what place was the guy you traded with in? I ask because if they feel you got ADP from a 2-8 or 3-7 team, they may think he gave ADP away because he was out of it. If both of you are in playoff contention (and I am guessing you are at least), then it just made both STARTING lineups better and there is nothing wrong with that.

 

[JMJ]

Are they saying you gave up too much? Or not enough to get AP?

 

[shredhead]

So you gave up 1 of your starting RB's, 1 Fkex player and 2 backup players for AP? Good trade for you! You strengthened your starting lineup for the playoffs, but you gave up all your depth, I think it's a good calculated risk to take with the playoffs looming. I think the trade is fair, I don't know about those saying you gave up too much since Palmer and garcon are backups on your team. I have AP and Rice as my starters on one of my teams, so I'll be pulling for you to have big weeks.

I just want to add, all of my redrafts, the trading deadline is week 10. The deadline is put in place to keep non playoff teams from disrupting the balance of the league. Looking at the rosters, I assume team A is not in very good playoff contention. I'm trying to figure out who he drafted in the 3rd through 6th rounds. He either had a really bad draft, or is bad at in-season team managment.

Why is team A starting Garcon over Ward? Palmer over Ryan? Ok I guess I would play matchups at QB if I were him.

Edit: Is team A's bench Hines Ward or Derrick? If it's Derrick then I see why Garcon is a starter for him.

 

[D'OHtis]

PPR:

Forte & Mendenhall are RB1's in PPR

Palmer's probably a QB1

Garcon's fodder but probably a decent wr4 right now

I see nothing wrong with the deal. I'd question which side objectors favor.

 

[Todem]

Nothing wrong with that at all.

Tell them to ####.

 

[Sebowski]

Ward as in Derrek

Team A is two games back from the playoofs. I am in 4th.

Team A drafted Ronnie Brown in the 3rd

 

[Banger]

fine trade. bunch of jealous babies.

 

[shredhead]

Ward as in DerrekTeam A is two games back from the playoofs. I am in 4th.Team A drafted Ronnie Brown in the 3rd

OK, makes more sense now. Thanks for the explanation.So Team A's draft went something like:1 AP2 Smith3 Ronnie Brown4 T Gonzo5 Matt Ryan6 A Gonzo7 SteelersI'm guessing 4-7 could be switched in a different order, I can see the logic now, although I would guess he could have done better in those 4 rounds.

 

[southeastjerome]

PPR:

Forte & Mendenhall are RB1's in PPR

How do you figure? Forte is borderline RB1 being the 10th overall RB right now in PPR by a narrow margin. Mendenhall is 25th. Over the last 5 games neither are in the top 10 for average ppg. As for the trade, I definitely would want the AP side, but it certainly is not vetoable. Definitely a good and fair deal for the OP. Touche.

 

[D'OHtis]

PPR:

Forte & Mendenhall are RB1's in PPR

How do you figure? Forte is borderline RB1 being the 10th overall RB right now in PPR by a narrow margin. Mendenhall is 25th. Over the last 5 games neither are in the top 10 for average ppg. As for the trade, I definitely would want the AP side, but it certainly is not vetoable. Definitely a good and fair deal for the OP. Touche.

Very easily. Forte is RB11 [shift based on an slight scoring diff} right now for the year.Mendenhall's RB14 in pts since starting Week 4. (Minus Slaton & Ronnie now, you're at RB12). Throw Turner in there too if you wish. Dynasty, I'm sure you'll place Mendy well ahead of Ricky/Thomas Jones [2 others that have outpaced Mendenhall since week 4).

Mendenhall's a Top 10 dynasty back with the possibility of Top 5 seasons. Forte/Palmer aren't chump change for additions & are fantasy starters.

 

[BespokeJort]

flex rooster?

This just shows how far evolution has come; when I was growing up we had chickens and none of them (male or female) could make a serviceable WR or RB

 

[shredhead]

flex rooster?

This just shows how far evolution has come; when I was growing up we had chickens and none of them (male or female) could make a serviceable WR or RB

 

[southeastjerome]

PPR:

Forte & Mendenhall are RB1's in PPR

How do you figure? Forte is borderline RB1 being the 10th overall RB right now in PPR by a narrow margin. Mendenhall is 25th. Over the last 5 games neither are in the top 10 for average ppg. As for the trade, I definitely would want the AP side, but it certainly is not vetoable. Definitely a good and fair deal for the OP. Touche.

Very easily. Forte is RB11 [shift based on an slight scoring diff} right now for the year.Mendenhall's RB14 in pts since starting Week 4. (Minus Slaton & Ronnie now, you're at RB12). Throw Turner in there too if you wish. Dynasty, I'm sure you'll place Mendy well ahead of Ricky/Thomas Jones [2 others that have outpaced Mendenhall since week 4).

Mendenhall's a Top 10 dynasty back with the possibility of Top 5 seasons. Forte/Palmer aren't chump change for additions & are fantasy starters.

As I implied, I'll give you Forte. I disagree on Mendenhall though. He's 14th/15th since week 4, but that includes his monster week 4 game. Since then he hasn't scored more than 18 points and has 2 weeks with 5 or fewer points. Also, I'd put guys who are behind him now (P. Thomas, McCoy, Moreno) ahead of him going forward. Either way, he's borderline at best.

 

[p00h]

my rooster flexes when it's excited...

YEAH BABY!!!

 

[ravnzfan]

No way I'd allow that trade. The league has a right to be upset.

I'm curious as to why?2 RB's in the teens & QB ~12 for RB3not enough for ADP?or was too much given?my experience is when a trade for a player like Peterson is made, the objections come flying because owners felt like too much was given...but if you own Peterson, what would it take to give him up?I know Forte was a top 5-ish back late August, but he just isn't getting into the endzone like a back rated that high needs toMendy has had a couple nice weeks, but Ben has been throwing alot more and the TD's will come via the air moreso than the groundCinncy's M-O has been run the ball and play brutal-D, Palmer isn't a top 5 QBPeterson has been passed the last 3 weeks by the meteor named Chris Johnson, and is nudged by the ever steady MJD (in my basic scoring league)bottom line is I'd want 2 starters @RB and another position player for ADP--minimumgood deal for both sided here...it's called WIN-WIN

 

[bcr8f]

PPR:

Forte & Mendenhall are RB1's in PPR

How do you figure? Forte is borderline RB1 being the 10th overall RB right now in PPR by a narrow margin. Mendenhall is 25th. Over the last 5 games neither are in the top 10 for average ppg. As for the trade, I definitely would want the AP side, but it certainly is not vetoable. Definitely a good and fair deal for the OP. Touche.

Very easily. Forte is RB11 [shift based on an slight scoring diff} right now for the year.Mendenhall's RB14 in pts since starting Week 4. (Minus Slaton & Ronnie now, you're at RB12). Throw Turner in there too if you wish. Dynasty, I'm sure you'll place Mendy well ahead of Ricky/Thomas Jones [2 others that have outpaced Mendenhall since week 4).

Mendenhall's a Top 10 dynasty back with the possibility of Top 5 seasons. Forte/Palmer aren't chump change for additions & are fantasy starters.

That's crazy. Mendenhall a RB1? Come on man even Forte is borderline. A few weeks back he was a bust.

 

[To commish is my wish]

flex rooster?

This just shows how far evolution has come; when I was growing up we had chickens and none of them (male or female) could make a serviceable WR or RB

Can't believe it took 15 posts for someone to take that typo and run with it. Well done!

 

[The Comedian]

flex rooster?

This just shows how far evolution has come; when I was growing up we had chickens and none of them (male or female) could make a serviceable WR or RB

Can't believe it took 15 posts for someone to take that typo and run with it. Well done!

Irony.

 

[BespokeJort]

flex rooster?

This just shows how far evolution has come; when I was growing up we had chickens and none of them (male or female) could make a serviceable WR or RB

Can't believe it took 15 posts for someone to take that typo and run with it. Well done!

Irony.

yeah didn't see the other thread (I don't read much here other than the dyno-focused threads)

 

[Steve Tasker]

flex rooster?

how deep are these roosters?

 

[cstu]

Quality vs. Quantity, I don't see the problem here.

The other guy's team looks much better now, but isn't that the reason people trade?

 

[cstu]

flex rooster?

how deep are these roosters?

Clucking deep.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

PPR

Team A gets: Forte, Mendenhall, Palmer, and Garcon

Team B gets: AP

All 4 of of the guys received for AP will start for team A

Team A's new lineup

Palmer

Forte

Mendy

S.Smith (CAR)

Berrian

Garcon

T. Gonzo

Steelers D

Bench:

Matt Ryan (was starter)

Betts(would be starter after losing Ronnie Brown

Feilx

Faulk

Ward

Bruce

A.Gonzo

Kelly Washington (was starter)

My new lineup

Favre

Rice

AP

Colston

Driver

Mason

Celek

AZ/Jets D

Bench

M.Bush

V.Young

Chambers

TO

Royal

Cooley

Finely

On the face of it I have no problem with it.However, I disagree somewhat with others here and think you won that trade, I think ADP gives far more value to Team A and B.

----> But that's definitely subjective.

I just have one question though: what are the respective records, current playoff rank and point standings of you and the other team?

Because I wonder if that is what's upsetting them.

I do think like another guy on this thread says that this is too late for trades. This is just on the cusp of when teams know they're done and when teams know they have a shot at the playoffs.

 

[BespokeJort]

No way I'd allow that trade. The league has a right to be upset.

I'm curious as to why?2 RB's in the teens & QB ~12 for RB3not enough for ADP?or was too much given?my experience is when a trade for a player like Peterson is made, the objections come flying because owners felt like too much was given...but if you own Peterson, what would it take to give him up?I know Forte was a top 5-ish back late August, but he just isn't getting into the endzone like a back rated that high needs toMendy has had a couple nice weeks, but Ben has been throwing alot more and the TD's will come via the air moreso than the groundCinncy's M-O has been run the ball and play brutal-D, Palmer isn't a top 5 QBPeterson has been passed the last 3 weeks by the meteor named Chris Johnson, and is nudged by the ever steady MJD (in my basic scoring league)bottom line is I'd want 2 starters @RB and another position player for ADP--minimumgood deal for both sided here...it's called WIN-WIN

That's a really nice write up and I'm glad you replied but I feel you are only trying to convince yourself. The fact the "commish" of the league felt the need to ask for reassurance leads me to believe he also knows it shouldn't be allowed and is just looking for anyone with a wild imagination to justify it for him.

no, he's asking because there was a big effing uproar about itWhat is with all this "asking for advice=knowing you're in the wrong" BS that goes on here...after consideration, he disagrees with his leaguemates' complaints, so his options are:1. Wuss out and bow to whatever they're kvetching about without looking for a second opinion2. Look for a second opinion3. Tell them where they can shove it without looking for a second opinion.IMO he's taking the only route that's both responsible as a commissioner and respectful of his own instincts.MFB replied asking for your rationale and giving you his (her?) reasoning, you still haven't given yours...so let's hear itbesides, trades shouldn't be vetoed just because one side's getting a better deal...only for collusion, which this clearly isn't. Even if you think someone's getting fleeced, this is fantasy football not babysitting. Let the grown man do what he wants with his team

 

[dickey moe]

Pound sand!

 

[BespokeJort]

No way I'd allow that trade. The league has a right to be upset.

I'm curious as to why?2 RB's in the teens & QB ~12 for RB3not enough for ADP?or was too much given?my experience is when a trade for a player like Peterson is made, the objections come flying because owners felt like too much was given...but if you own Peterson, what would it take to give him up?I know Forte was a top 5-ish back late August, but he just isn't getting into the endzone like a back rated that high needs toMendy has had a couple nice weeks, but Ben has been throwing alot more and the TD's will come via the air moreso than the groundCinncy's M-O has been run the ball and play brutal-D, Palmer isn't a top 5 QBPeterson has been passed the last 3 weeks by the meteor named Chris Johnson, and is nudged by the ever steady MJD (in my basic scoring league)bottom line is I'd want 2 starters @RB and another position player for ADP--minimumgood deal for both sided here...it's called WIN-WIN

That's a really nice write up and I'm glad you replied but I feel you are only trying to convince yourself. The fact the "commish" of the league felt the need to ask for reassurance leads me to believe he also knows it shouldn't be allowed and is just looking for anyone with a wild imagination to justify it for him.

no, he's asking because there was a big effing uproar about itWhat is with all this "asking for advice=knowing you're in the wrong" BS that goes on here...after consideration, he disagrees with his leaguemates' complaints, so his options are:1. Wuss out and bow to whatever they're kvetching about without looking for a second opinion2. Look for a second opinion3. Tell them where they can shove it without looking for a second opinion.IMO he's taking the only route that's both responsible as a commissioner and respectful of his own instincts.MFB replied asking for your rationale and giving you his (her?) reasoning, you still haven't given yours...so let's hear itbesides, trades shouldn't be vetoed just because one side's getting a better deal...only for collusion, which this clearly isn't. Even if you think someone's getting fleeced, this is fantasy football not babysitting. Let the grown man do what he wants with his teamEDIT: the only way this isn't legit is (due to the redraft status) if one team is contending, the other is eliminated, and the contending one's starting lineup is drastically improved. But IMO teams in a redraft shouldn't be able to trade after being mathematically eliminated

 

[EdwardCat]

RedraftFlex rostersDoes anyone see there side of it? They are really complaining about it

It would really help if you detailed their (not there) side of it. All you've said is people are upset. Give us some freaking information.

 

[cvnpoka]

talk about making your mind up prior

 

[two_dollars]

No way I'd allow that trade. The league has a right to be upset.

I'm curious as to why?2 RB's in the teens & QB ~12 for RB3not enough for ADP?or was too much given?my experience is when a trade for a player like Peterson is made, the objections come flying because owners felt like too much was given...but if you own Peterson, what would it take to give him up?I know Forte was a top 5-ish back late August, but he just isn't getting into the endzone like a back rated that high needs toMendy has had a couple nice weeks, but Ben has been throwing alot more and the TD's will come via the air moreso than the groundCinncy's M-O has been run the ball and play brutal-D, Palmer isn't a top 5 QBPeterson has been passed the last 3 weeks by the meteor named Chris Johnson, and is nudged by the ever steady MJD (in my basic scoring league)bottom line is I'd want 2 starters @RB and another position player for ADP--minimumgood deal for both sided here...it's called WIN-WIN

That's a really nice write up and I'm glad you replied but I feel you are only trying to convince yourself. The fact the "commish" of the league felt the need to ask for reassurance leads me to believe he also knows it shouldn't be allowed and is just looking for anyone with a wild imagination to justify it for him.

no, he's asking because there was a big effing uproar about itWhat is with all this "asking for advice=knowing you're in the wrong" BS that goes on here...after consideration, he disagrees with his leaguemates' complaints, so his options are:1. Wuss out and bow to whatever they're kvetching about without looking for a second opinion2. Look for a second opinion3. Tell them where they can shove it without looking for a second opinion.IMO he's taking the only route that's both responsible as a commissioner and respectful of his own instincts.MFB replied asking for your rationale and giving you his (her?) reasoning, you still haven't given yours...so let's hear itbesides, trades shouldn't be vetoed just because one side's getting a better deal...only for collusion, which this clearly isn't. Even if you think someone's getting fleeced, this is fantasy football not babysitting. Let the grown man do what he wants with his team

You made a really nice effort to lay out your point of view but your aggressive points about his options and your attempt at some sort of bull rush won't sway my thinking that this trade should not be allowed. Anyone who frequents this forum knows how to word it in such a way so there will be an obvious slant. You indicate your mind is made up 100% on what was going on before the trade went down, I am on the other side and your aggression to bully me won't work. The "commish" wouldn't feel the need to bring this to any attention if he wasn't already thinking there was something shady going on and I'm sure he's painted in the best light possible. I'm sure he's well aware the majority will agree with him for the sake of agreeing...it's those of us that speak up to the contrary and take the most grief but make the most difference.

You still never said why you had a problem with it. Do you think he gave up too much for AP?112 to 8 think this is an acceptable trade.I do too. Both teams improved their roster. In fact, I think team B who GAVE up AP improves his weekly score by MORE points than the team who GOT AP.

 

[BespokeJort]

No way I'd allow that trade. The league has a right to be upset.

I'm curious as to why?2 RB's in the teens & QB ~12 for RB3not enough for ADP?or was too much given?my experience is when a trade for a player like Peterson is made, the objections come flying because owners felt like too much was given...but if you own Peterson, what would it take to give him up?I know Forte was a top 5-ish back late August, but he just isn't getting into the endzone like a back rated that high needs toMendy has had a couple nice weeks, but Ben has been throwing alot more and the TD's will come via the air moreso than the groundCinncy's M-O has been run the ball and play brutal-D, Palmer isn't a top 5 QBPeterson has been passed the last 3 weeks by the meteor named Chris Johnson, and is nudged by the ever steady MJD (in my basic scoring league)bottom line is I'd want 2 starters @RB and another position player for ADP--minimumgood deal for both sided here...it's called WIN-WIN

That's a really nice write up and I'm glad you replied but I feel you are only trying to convince yourself. The fact the "commish" of the league felt the need to ask for reassurance leads me to believe he also knows it shouldn't be allowed and is just looking for anyone with a wild imagination to justify it for him.

no, he's asking because there was a big effing uproar about itWhat is with all this "asking for advice=knowing you're in the wrong" BS that goes on here...after consideration, he disagrees with his leaguemates' complaints, so his options are:1. Wuss out and bow to whatever they're kvetching about without looking for a second opinion2. Look for a second opinion3. Tell them where they can shove it without looking for a second opinion.IMO he's taking the only route that's both responsible as a commissioner and respectful of his own instincts.MFB replied asking for your rationale and giving you his (her?) reasoning, you still haven't given yours...so let's hear itbesides, trades shouldn't be vetoed just because one side's getting a better deal...only for collusion, which this clearly isn't. Even if you think someone's getting fleeced, this is fantasy football not babysitting. Let the grown man do what he wants with his team

You made a really nice effort to lay out your point of view but your aggressive points about his options and your attempt at some sort of bull rush won't sway my thinking that this trade should not be allowed. Anyone who frequents this forum knows how to word it in such a way so there will be an obvious slant. You indicate your mind is made up 100% on what was going on before the trade went down, I am on the other side and your aggression to bully me won't work. The "commish" wouldn't feel the need to bring this to any attention if he wasn't already thinking there was something shady going on and I'm sure he's painted in the best light possible. I'm sure he's well aware the majority will agree with him for the sake of agreeing...it's those of us that speak up to the contrary and take the most grief but make the most difference.

Meh...sorry if you were offended but the aggressiveness stems from the fact that what I'm posting seems like basic common sense to me.not trying to be a #### here but sometimes the right answer comes in a package you don't like. If you want to point to the "bullying" and ignore the points at hand, it's really no skin off my back. Are those not one's options in that situation? my mind isn't made up that I know what was going on...my mind is made up that any trade that seems at all reasonable (barring collusion or an out-of-the-playoffs team trading with a contender in a redraft...so at that point this post would be null and void) should be allowed to go through. 99 percent of these issues are jealous owners thinking that one team got too much and wishing they'd made an offer to the other team firstThat trade isn't collusion simply by what players are involved...so unless one team is eliminated (in which case I strongly believe they shouldn't be allowed to trade at all) there's nothing wrong with the trade. If players are complaining because they think it makes one team better, barring the above, that's too bad. (as a side note, if your main premise for discrediting my post is that you believe I'd made up my mind before all the details were out, you probably shouldn't sprinkle your rebuttal so liberally with references to how you're "sure" what the commish's intent was)Not everyone's been in every situation before. Sometimes people ask for advice. That doesn't mean it has to be a conspiracy.I ask again (and I'm a mean bully, so feel free to ignore this too), what is your rationale for rejecting the trade? Seeing as how the responses are split as to which side is giving too much or getting too little.

 

[Sebowski]

That's a really nice write up and I'm glad you replied but I feel you are only trying to convince yourself. The fact the "commish" of the league felt the need to ask for reassurance leads me to believe he also knows it shouldn't be allowed and is just looking for anyone with a wild imagination to justify it for him.

That is total BS. I just laid out the facts looking for unbiased opinions.

Redraft

Flex rosters

Does anyone see there side of it? They are really complaining about it

It would really help if you detailed their (not there) side of it. All you've said is people are upset. Give us some freaking information.

Ward as in Derrek

Team A is two games back from the playoofs. I am in 4th.

Team A drafted Ronnie Brown in the 3rd

Now that there has already been plenty of responses I'll go ahead and step back as commish and defend my ownership here. 2 games out with 3 to go is a long shot, but don't you play to win the games? The only facts that should matter are if the teams made an honest effort to make their team better. Both did here. almost everyone agrees that both starting lineups are better for it. Nothing else should matter. I didn't go after Steve Smith or even the Pitt D. I saw Ronnie Brown go out for the year and checked to see who had him. I'd been trying to unload my depth to improve my starters for three weeks. Ronnie's injury made this a perfect trade opportunity. We both got better. I am an injury away now from not being that good. Two injuries away from really sucking. If the trade deadline should be backed up a week for next year that is an issue of itself.

 

[BespokeJort]

if he's still in playoff contention he has a right to do whatever he can to try to get there, so long as that's his goal

There's nothing wrong with this trade.

Nothing to see here

 

[Instinctive]

RedraftFlex rostersDoes anyone see there side of it? They are really complaining about it

oh good lord, in a redraft that's a trade I would make. You probably gained in PPG, as well as the AD explosion potential.The other guy benefited as well...it's just like a trad ein my league last year involving Brees and AD and Dwill....but it went through, and the two teams involved went all the way to the championship game...it was a great trade for them both that cleared bench depth and improved starting lineups.If you have depth to overpay to make sure you improve a starting position, especially this late, go for it. Points in the lineup=wins. Points on the bench...do not.

 

[footballsavvy]

No way I'd allow that trade. The league has a right to be upset.

People with your attitude make fantasy football not fun sometimes. Its not about the trade being so perfectly "even" that the players involved have to have the same exact fantasy points or production or whatever. It's about intent... and clearly there is no attempt at collusion here. The losers in that league need to find better things to waste their energy on.Sorry for the tone here - but you hit a nerve with this post.

 

[footballsavvy]

RedraftFlex rostersDoes anyone see there side of it? They are really complaining about it

oh good lord, in a redraft that's a trade I would make. You probably gained in PPG, as well as the AD explosion potential.The other guy benefited as well...it's just like a trad ein my league last year involving Brees and AD and Dwill....but it went through, and the two teams involved went all the way to the championship game...it was a great trade for them both that cleared bench depth and improved starting lineups.If you have depth to overpay to make sure you improve a starting position, especially this late, go for it. Points in the lineup=wins. Points on the bench...do not.

Exactly. Which is the real reason they are angry - because two of their opponents just got better. Let them cry and move on. Hopefully you at least collected the entry fees in advance. Some people will look for any bs reason to not payup.

 

[Instinctive]

For all against it, what if last season you traded Andre, Slaton, and CJ4.24 for DeAngelo Williams at about this time, just before deadline?

Except the guy making the trade for DWill had AD and Fitz already...and it's a start 2 RB league. Sure, on the surface, somebody got owned in that trade. But then one owner ends up with 2 top 5 backs, and goes to the championship on DWill's back and beats...the other owner!

The problem these guys have is not the trade itself...it is that they were unable to make such a good trade themselves because they didn't have the depth or didn't see the option.

 

[Ford Prefect]

No way I'd allow that trade. The league has a right to be upset.

Why?

 

[sgtrobo]

You made a really nice effort to lay out your point of view but your aggressive points about his options and your attempt at some sort of bull rush won't sway my thinking that this trade should not be allowed.

here's how I look at it.His roster used to have (PPG as starters):Ryan (15)AD (21)Betts (17)Isaac Bruce (6)now it hasPalmer (17)Mendy (16)Forte (16)Garcon (10)so he gave up approximately 58 points in his starting lineup and gained approximately 59 points. He also added 2 guaranteed starting RBs in Mendy and Forte rather than 1 who is hanging on as long as Portis is out. He also gained Palmer, who has a pretty decent schedule to play matchups with Ryan, and he added a legit WR3, something that Bruce hasn't been in ages.You both made out.Everyone else is pissed because your roster is now SIGNIFICANTLY stronger than it was. You had depth to give, and you gave it. You're ####ed if you get an injury though, because you have no backup RB, your backup WRs suck, and you have Vince Young as your backup QB.hehe....good luck!P.S. nothing wrong with the trade. I see both sides benefitting. It could win you a championship or blow up in your face.

 

[Sinn Fein]

Team A is worse after the trade imo. The drop-off from ADP to Forte is more than any gains at other positions.

 

[fsufan]

No way I'd allow that trade. The league has a right to be upset.

I'm curious as to why?2 RB's in the teens & QB ~12 for RB3not enough for ADP?or was too much given?my experience is when a trade for a player like Peterson is made, the objections come flying because owners felt like too much was given...but if you own Peterson, what would it take to give him up?I know Forte was a top 5-ish back late August, but he just isn't getting into the endzone like a back rated that high needs toMendy has had a couple nice weeks, but Ben has been throwing alot more and the TD's will come via the air moreso than the groundCinncy's M-O has been run the ball and play brutal-D, Palmer isn't a top 5 QBPeterson has been passed the last 3 weeks by the meteor named Chris Johnson, and is nudged by the ever steady MJD (in my basic scoring league)bottom line is I'd want 2 starters @RB and another position player for ADP--minimumgood deal for both sided here...it's called WIN-WIN

That's a really nice write up and I'm glad you replied but I feel you are only trying to convince yourself. The fact the "commish" of the league felt the need to ask for reassurance leads me to believe he also knows it shouldn't be allowed and is just looking for anyone with a wild imagination to justify it for him.

owners(the commish is an owner) has the right to manage their teams the best way THEY see fit. all other owners should stay out of it.