Lebron James will never win a championship... (1 Viewer)

[Zigg]

Does he have Finals Clutchness*? Or dare I say, Road Finals Clutchness*?

* Why is there a red line under Clutchness? Is my computer not familiar with that term?

 

[drpill]

I don't know how the Spurs won't be MASSIVE favorites against Cleveland.They have, in no particular order...1. The best player on the court (slim margin)2. The best coach on the court (WIDE margin)3. The 2nd best player on the court (Manu) 4. The 3rd best player on the court (Parker)4b. The best PG on the court (Parker)5. Home court advantage6. Rest7. The dirtiest player on the court (Bowen)8. Robert Horry9. A deeper bench 10. "Been there, done it, can do it again" experience.I HATE the Spurs and will be rooting for whoever comes from the East, but I don't see any way the Spurs don't kill in the Finals.

It will be a savage sweep.

Five games, tops.

 

[No. 16]

LBJ played a solid game but his clutchness rating remains at an 8.25.

After this game Daniel Gibson shoots to a 7.63 on The Clutchness Scale and it seems as if Chris Webber is contagious as the Detroit Pistons have dropped to a -0.5 on The Clutchness Scale.

Seriously, as good as Cleveland played it seems as if the Pistons lost this series... more so than the Cavs winning it.

 

[Capella]

LBJ played a solid game but his clutchness rating remains at an 8.25.After this game Daniel Gibson shoots to a 7.63 on The Clutchness Scale and it seems as if Chris Webber is contagious as the Detroit Pistons have dropped to a -0.5 on The Clutchness Scale. Seriously, as good as Cleveland played it seems as if the Pistons lost this series... more so than the Cavs winning it.

 

[Captain Quinoa]

Things got a lot more clutch once they got Sasha the Human Turnover off the floor.

 

[TLEF316]

LBJ played a solid game but his clutchness rating remains at an 8.25.After this game Daniel Gibson shoots to a 7.63 on The Clutchness Scale and it seems as if Chris Webber is contagious as the Detroit Pistons have dropped to a -0.5 on The Clutchness Scale. Seriously, as good as Cleveland played it seems as if the Pistons lost this series... more so than the Cavs winning it.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

LeBron James and his Quest for Clutchness continues

 

[culdeus]

LBJ played a solid game but his clutchness rating remains at an 8.25.After this game Daniel Gibson shoots to a 7.63 on The Clutchness Scale and it seems as if Chris Webber is contagious as the Detroit Pistons have dropped to a -0.5 on The Clutchness Scale. Seriously, as good as Cleveland played it seems as if the Pistons lost this series... more so than the Cavs winning it.

 

[fsufan]

Put this down in history.LBJ will never win an NBA championship. He doesnt have the killer instinct or clutch play to become the best. He'll never be Magic and no way will he ever be Jordan.I still think he'll become one of the best players in the NBA, but he'll be just like Peyton Manning. All stats and no rings. If it takes a supposed franchise savior 3 NBA season before he hits a game winner... there's a problem. What's even worse is he has been considered "the man" practially since he put on a Cavs jersey. Wade amd Melo on the other hand will win their fair share of championships.

you have to be a little nervous. to the Manning comment as well

 

[thesurfshop19]

(To every in this HoF caliber thread ....)

 

[drpill]

Put this down in history.LBJ will never win an NBA championship. He doesnt have the killer instinct or clutch play to become the best. He'll never be Magic and no way will he ever be Jordan.I still think he'll become one of the best players in the NBA, but he'll be just like Peyton Manning. All stats and no rings. If it takes a supposed franchise savior 3 NBA season before he hits a game winner... there's a problem. What's even worse is he has been considered "the man" practially since he put on a Cavs jersey. Wade amd Melo on the other hand will win their fair share of championships.

you have to be a little nervous. to the Manning comment as well

Oh crap. With this guy on the case the Spurs don't stand a chance, do they?

 

[LHUCKS]

LBJ played a solid game but his clutchness rating remains at an 8.25.After this game Daniel Gibson shoots to a 7.63 on The Clutchness Scale and it seems as if Chris Webber is contagious as the Detroit Pistons have dropped to a -0.5 on The Clutchness Scale. Seriously, as good as Cleveland played it seems as if the Pistons lost this series... more so than the Cavs winning it.

oh boy

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

I think Lebron is going to torch Bowen (if Bowen doesnt shiv him in the kidney first). Gooden and Z both have some outside game and may actually keep Duncan out of the lane on D. Varejao is a bundle of energy . . . I really think this is going to end up a decent series. While my brain says the Spurs in 6, I think the Cavs have a legit shot and will bring Cleveland their first title in a long time . . . Cavs in 7. There, I said it.

 

[No. 16]

I think Lebron is going to torch Bowen (if Bowen doesnt shiv him in the kidney first). Gooden and Z both have some outside game and may actually keep Duncan out of the lane on D. Varejao is a bundle of energy . . . I really think this is going to end up a decent series. While my brain says the Spurs in 6, I think the Cavs have a legit shot and will bring Cleveland their first title in a long time . . . Cavs in 7. There, I said it.

So who stops Parker and Manu?

 

[Galileo]

He's going, but he still needs to win it.

eh...this is Cleveland. We don't win major sports championshisps in Cleveland (at least not since '64). LeBron will get his, but it will be with whomever he plays for next...

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

I think Lebron is going to torch Bowen (if Bowen doesnt shiv him in the kidney first). Gooden and Z both have some outside game and may actually keep Duncan out of the lane on D. Varejao is a bundle of energy . . . I really think this is going to end up a decent series. While my brain says the Spurs in 6, I think the Cavs have a legit shot and will bring Cleveland their first title in a long time . . . Cavs in 7. There, I said it.

So who stops Parker and Manu?

the same people who stopped Billups, Rip, and Prince.

 

[No. 16]

I think Lebron is going to torch Bowen (if Bowen doesnt shiv him in the kidney first). Gooden and Z both have some outside game and may actually keep Duncan out of the lane on D. Varejao is a bundle of energy . . . I really think this is going to end up a decent series. While my brain says the Spurs in 6, I think the Cavs have a legit shot and will bring Cleveland their first title in a long time . . . Cavs in 7. There, I said it.

So who stops Parker and Manu?

the same people who stopped Billups, Rip, and Prince.

None are the penetrators that Parker and Manu are.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

I think Lebron is going to torch Bowen (if Bowen doesnt shiv him in the kidney first). Gooden and Z both have some outside game and may actually keep Duncan out of the lane on D. Varejao is a bundle of energy . . . I really think this is going to end up a decent series. While my brain says the Spurs in 6, I think the Cavs have a legit shot and will bring Cleveland their first title in a long time . . . Cavs in 7. There, I said it.

So who stops Parker and Manu?

the same people who stopped Billups, Rip, and Prince.

None are the penetrators that Parker and Manu are.

I think Billups and Rip are both better players then Parker and Manu personally. Prince shot what, 15% for the series? Cleveland plays solid team D. I know Duncan is probably the best player in the league, but the Cavs have a pretty solid frontline. I dont think people are giving the Cavs enough credit here, although the Spurs have been the best team in the NBA since the break.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

Your Eastern Conference Champions!!!

The King and his Court... LeBron James and the Cleveland Cavaliers.

I still swear he is about 26 years old though.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

does winning a conference championship make the title incorrect?

 

[s_ezy]

lebron is getting tutored in foul shots from daniel gibson

edited to correct spelling

 

[drpill]

I think Lebron is going to torch Bowen (if Bowen doesnt shiv him in the kidney first). Gooden and Z both have some outside game and may actually keep Duncan out of the lane on D. Varejao is a bundle of energy . . . I really think this is going to end up a decent series. While my brain says the Spurs in 6, I think the Cavs have a legit shot and will bring Cleveland their first title in a long time . . . Cavs in 7. There, I said it.

So who stops Parker and Manu?

the same people who stopped Billups, Rip, and Prince.

None are the penetrators that Parker and Manu are.

We'll have to take your word for it. We don't have firsthand knowledge like you apparently do.

Pretty sure Lebron has done all the penetrating here.

 

[No. 16]

I think Lebron is going to torch Bowen (if Bowen doesnt shiv him in the kidney first). Gooden and Z both have some outside game and may actually keep Duncan out of the lane on D. Varejao is a bundle of energy . . . I really think this is going to end up a decent series. While my brain says the Spurs in 6, I think the Cavs have a legit shot and will bring Cleveland their first title in a long time . . . Cavs in 7. There, I said it.

So who stops Parker and Manu?

the same people who stopped Billups, Rip, and Prince.

None are the penetrators that Parker and Manu are.

We'll have to take your word for it. We don't have firsthand knowledge like you apparently do.

Pretty sure Lebron has done all the penetrating here.

Spurs in 5 tops. Between Bowen and Manu and TD guarding the rim does LBJ go off.

 

[Britney Spears]

No. 16 owes Gunz some serious reparations for stealing his shtick.

 

[Death Bytes]

LBJ played a solid game but his clutchness rating remains at an 8.25.After this game Daniel Gibson shoots to a 7.63 on The Clutchness Scale and it seems as if Chris Webber is contagious as the Detroit Pistons have dropped to a -0.5 on The Clutchness Scale. Seriously, as good as Cleveland played it seems as if the Pistons lost this series... more so than the Cavs winning it.

No. 16 -->

 

[djcolts]

I'm definitely rooting for the Cavs in the Finals because of this thread.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

does winning a conference championship make the title incorrect?

Do they get a big fat trophy? Rings? A bonus check?

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

does winning a conference championship make the title incorrect?

Do they get a big fat trophy? Rings? A bonus check?

what about winning a division championship? scoring championship?

 

[mr. furley]

No. Didn't even watch tonite's game. The NBA sucks. I'm convinced LeBron will just leave for another club. Heck I think its a great possibility the Cavs as a franchise goes elsewhere. This city can't support 3 teams.I'll gladly take a title if the Cavs somehow win one for the city, but that's about it.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

does winning a conference championship make the title incorrect?

Do they get a big fat trophy? Rings? A bonus check?

what about winning a division championship? scoring championship?

Well, that would be regular season. Im under the impression the "thought" was about the playoffs.

 

[No. 16]

does winning a conference championship make the title incorrect?

Do they get a big fat trophy? Rings? A bonus check?

what about winning a division championship? scoring championship?

Well, that would be regular season. Im under the impression the "thought" was about the playoffs.

So I guess Karl Malone is a Champion then by those standards.

 

[TitusIII]

He will win more than one, but he will have to wait a few years...

 

[Das Boot]

LBJ played a solid game but his clutchness rating remains at an 8.25.After this game Daniel Gibson shoots to a 7.63 on The Clutchness Scale and it seems as if Chris Webber is contagious as the Detroit Pistons have dropped to a -0.5 on The Clutchness Scale. Seriously, as good as Cleveland played it seems as if the Pistons lost this series... more so than the Cavs winning it.

oh boy

Lhucks - pretty good fishing trip, eh?

 

[Irish]

I don't know how the Spurs won't be MASSIVE favorites against Cleveland.They have, in no particular order...1. The best player on the court (slim margin)2. The best coach on the court (WIDE margin)3. The 2nd best player on the court (Manu) 4. The 3rd best player on the court (Parker)4b. The best PG on the court (Parker)5. Home court advantage6. Rest7. The dirtiest player on the court (Bowen)8. Robert Horry9. A deeper bench 10. "Been there, done it, can do it again" experience.I HATE the Spurs and will be rooting for whoever comes from the East, but I don't see any way the Spurs don't kill in the Finals.

Manu and Parker better than LeBron? Finals don't start until Thurs, both teams will have plenty of rest.

 

[Your Mother]

LBJ played a solid game but his clutchness rating remains at an 8.25.After this game Daniel Gibson shoots to a 7.63 on The Clutchness Scale and it seems as if Chris Webber is contagious as the Detroit Pistons have dropped to a -0.5 on The Clutchness Scale. Seriously, as good as Cleveland played it seems as if the Pistons lost this series... more so than the Cavs winning it.

You really should have gone with the "Chris Webber will never win a championship" shtick, I think that's something everyone could get behind.

 

[No. 16]

LBJ played a solid game but his clutchness rating remains at an 8.25.After this game Daniel Gibson shoots to a 7.63 on The Clutchness Scale and it seems as if Chris Webber is contagious as the Detroit Pistons have dropped to a -0.5 on The Clutchness Scale. Seriously, as good as Cleveland played it seems as if the Pistons lost this series... more so than the Cavs winning it.

You really should have gone with the "Chris Webber will never win a championship" shtick, I think that's something everyone could get behind.

Then where's the fun in that?

 

[flapgreen]

I don't know how the Spurs won't be MASSIVE favorites against Cleveland.They have, in no particular order...1. The best player on the court (slim margin)2. The best coach on the court (WIDE margin)3. The 2nd best player on the court (Manu) 4. The 3rd best player on the court (Parker)4b. The best PG on the court (Parker)5. Home court advantage6. Rest7. The dirtiest player on the court (Bowen)8. Robert Horry9. A deeper bench 10. "Been there, done it, can do it again" experience.I HATE the Spurs and will be rooting for whoever comes from the East, but I don't see any way the Spurs don't kill in the Finals.

Manu and Parker better than LeBron? Finals don't start until Thurs, both teams will have plenty of rest.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

does winning a conference championship make the title incorrect?

Do they get a big fat trophy? Rings? A bonus check?

I actually think the answer is yes to all of those.

 

[wadegarrett]

 

[wadegarrett]

The Cavs will lose to Detroit.

Any predictions on the upcoming Finals?

 

[Dt's Mules]

I don't know how the Spurs won't be MASSIVE favorites against Cleveland.They have, in no particular order...1. The best player on the court (slim margin)2. The best coach on the court (WIDE margin)3. The 2nd best player on the court (Manu) 4. The 3rd best player on the court (Parker)4b. The best PG on the court (Parker)5. Home court advantage6. Rest7. The dirtiest player on the court (Bowen)8. Robert Horry9. A deeper bench 10. "Been there, done it, can do it again" experience.I HATE the Spurs and will be rooting for whoever comes from the East, but I don't see any way the Spurs don't kill in the Finals.

Manu and Parker better than LeBron? Finals don't start until Thurs, both teams will have plenty of rest.

i'm quite sure he meant that they have better 2nd best player and better 3rd best player

 

[PsychoMan]

Too bad he's boring to watch and anyone outside of Cleveland doesn't care.....

 

[bakes]

This thread's like an all you can eat crow buffet.

 

[GiantsRule]

does winning a conference championship make the title incorrect?

Do they get a big fat trophy? Rings? A bonus check?

what about winning a division championship? scoring championship?

Well, that would be regular season. Im under the impression the "thought" was about the playoffs.

So I guess Karl Malone is a Champion then by those standards.

Malone's journey to the NBA Finals = 12 seasonsLeBron's journey to the NBA Finals = 4 seasons (and tip off of Game 1 hasn't happened yet)Just when you thought this guy couldn't dig himself any deeper...

 

[LHUCKS]

LBJ played a solid game but his clutchness rating remains at an 8.25.After this game Daniel Gibson shoots to a 7.63 on The Clutchness Scale and it seems as if Chris Webber is contagious as the Detroit Pistons have dropped to a -0.5 on The Clutchness Scale. Seriously, as good as Cleveland played it seems as if the Pistons lost this series... more so than the Cavs winning it.

oh boy

Lhucks - pretty good fishing trip, eh?

:(

 

[djcolts]

This is from Foxsports.com expert Charlie Rosen, who is definitely not a kiss-up analyst.

What could LeBron do for an encore after his incredible scoring heroics in Game 5? How about a complete about-face that sacrificed his own scoring in favor of setting up his teammates. He shot a mere 3-for-11 from the field, but was 14-for-19 from the stripe, pulled down 14 rebounds, dished out eight assists and notched 20 points.With the Pistons' doubling him ASAP, LBJ concentrated on drawing as many defenders as would adhere to him before passing to open shooters.In truth, his total of eight assists is misleading, only because several recipients ended up at the foul line, and he also executed numerous set-up passes that led to assists by someone else — like Larry Hughes and Damon Jones, who had four each.In other words, LeBron refused to force anything and, like a wizened veteran, took what the Pistons' defense gave him.His play in Game 6, then, was equally as masterful as it had been in Game 5, but for other reasons. These include unselfishness, maturity, discipline, and above all, having unlimited faith in his teammates.Bravo! The man-child has officially become a master.

But, we all know No. 16 know 10 times more about basketball than this guy.

Charley Rosen is FOXSports.com's NBA analyst and author of 13 books about hoops, the current one being "The pivotal season — How the 1971-72 L.A. Lakers changed the NBA."

How many books have you written about hoops, No. 16?

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

The Cavs will lose to Detroit.

Any predictions on the upcoming Finals?

even you have to admit that was a big upset

 

[wadegarrett]

The Cavs will lose to Detroit.

Any predictions on the upcoming Finals?

even you have to admit that was a big upset

big upset? that was a mild upset at best

 

[Chunky Soup]

The Cavs will lose to Detroit.

Any predictions on the upcoming Finals?

even you have to admit that was a big upset

big upset? that was a mild upset at best

Sarcasm? Schtick?

 

[Bobcat10]

LBJ played a solid game but his clutchness rating remains at an 8.25.After this game Daniel Gibson shoots to a 7.63 on The Clutchness Scale and it seems as if Chris Webber is contagious as the Detroit Pistons have dropped to a -0.5 on The Clutchness Scale. Seriously, as good as Cleveland played it seems as if the Pistons lost this series... more so than the Cavs winning it.

The Pistons were outplayed in every game on both ends of the court. Did you even watch half of the games?