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gbill2004

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I traded for Lee Evans right before the week 1 games started, and was quite surprised at the lack of production, and looks for Lee Evans as the #1 WR in Buffalo. What can we expect from Lee Evans moving forward?

He was a trendy pick to have a breakout season this year by many - is this still the case? Was Sundays game an anomoly??

 
He was playing against the Pats on their field and they have Losman throwing the ball. He's not gonna be a consistent week to week guy, he'll have his 3 for 34 followed by 5 for 127 - 2 tds.

 
Pats defense is no walk, was doubled a lot and after missing the 4th & 1 conversion the Bills lost their momentum and really couldn't put much together after that. He may have scored had it not been for a block in the back that forced them from 1st down to 3rd & 2 which ended the drive. They stopped him pretty well, I wouldn't be overly concerned about it but you can't expect too much from him because the Bills offense isn't looking to be a top 5 by any means.

 
Chapter 2 of the Bills WR Stories, as written by gbill: "Evans the Heartbreaker"

This follows Chapter 1: "Evans the #1 reciever".

 
He was playing against the Pats on their field and they have Losman throwing the ball. He's not gonna be a consistent week to week guy, he'll have his 3 for 34 followed by 5 for 127 - 2 tds.
You guys can continue to bash Losman but I didn't see much reason to criticize him. He was thrown under the bus by virtually everybody here but almost pulled a win on the road against the Pats on their turf the first game of the year, not good enough?
 
He was playing against the Pats on their field and they have Losman throwing the ball. He's not gonna be a consistent week to week guy, he'll have his 3 for 34 followed by 5 for 127 - 2 tds.
You guys can continue to bash Losman but I didn't see much reason to criticize him. He was thrown under the bus by virtually everybody here but almost pulled a win on the road against the Pats on their turf the first game of the year, not good enough?
He played ok but lost them the game with the safety. I'm not bashing him he was fine but he's not an elite or even a top 20 qb for that matter. He had a good 1st half and did nothing the 2nd half.
 
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The Patriots' field looked like absolute crap. It wouldn't surprise me if that slowed him down a bit. Evans may not have had a great game, but the most important thing coming out of week 1 is that Losman didn't fall on his face. He showed that he could get the ball to receivers and rack up some yards. Remember that Evans isn't a guy who needs a whole lot of looks to put up points. If he catches 5 balls in a game, there's a good chance that one of them is going deep.

 
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I'm not entirely familiar with Lee Evans skill set. Could someone please explain what type of receiver he is?? One poster compared him to Steve Smith. Is Evans more of a YAC receiver? Is he good at getting separation? Is he purely a dep threat, or does he get some slot passes as well?

 
I'm not entirely familiar with Lee Evans skill set. Could someone please explain what type of receiver he is?? One poster compared him to Steve Smith. Is Evans more of a YAC receiver? Is he good at getting separation? Is he purely a dep threat, or does he get some slot passes as well?
I wouldn't say he's totally a deep threat (ala Lelie) but that's definitely the best part of his game. Take a look at the game logs from last year and you'll see that of his 7 TD's 4 were from long distance (29, 33, 46, 56).
 
I'm not entirely familiar with Lee Evans skill set. Could someone please explain what type of receiver he is?? One poster compared him to Steve Smith. Is Evans more of a YAC receiver? Is he good at getting separation? Is he purely a dep threat, or does he get some slot passes as well?
I wouldn't say he's totally a deep threat (ala Lelie) but that's definitely the best part of his game. Take a look at the game logs from last year and you'll see that of his 7 TD's 4 were from long distance (29, 33, 46, 56).
Yes, but they could all be 5 yard catches/passes, with huge YAC. What type of a receiver is he? Which more well-known WR would you compare him to? Is Steve Smith a good comparison?
 
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I didn't have high expectations for Lee Evans this week, and I opted to play Roy Williams as my WR2 instead. Gee, that worked out well, didn't it. :( Anyway, the point I am trying to make is that until he shows you he is consistent, you can't expect him to be.

Next week Evans faces a shaky Dolphins secondary, I would expect a much better game, and if I don't see one, then I will start to worry a little.

 
I'm not entirely familiar with Lee Evans skill set. Could someone please explain what type of receiver he is?? One poster compared him to Steve Smith. Is Evans more of a YAC receiver? Is he good at getting separation? Is he purely a dep threat, or does he get some slot passes as well?
I wouldn't say he's totally a deep threat (ala Lelie) but that's definitely the best part of his game. Take a look at the game logs from last year and you'll see that of his 7 TD's 4 were from long distance (29, 33, 46, 56).
He is more than a deep thread. As well as speed, he has a suddenness in his moves and show good acceleration and quickness. He uses he hands well to get off the line and runs solid routes. Although he lacks prototypical size for an NFL receiver, he is more than a "track star".The unanswered question, is is he miscast as a #1 WR.
 
I'm not entirely familiar with Lee Evans skill set. Could someone please explain what type of receiver he is?? One poster compared him to Steve Smith. Is Evans more of a YAC receiver? Is he good at getting separation? Is he purely a dep threat, or does he get some slot passes as well?
I wouldn't say he's totally a deep threat (ala Lelie) but that's definitely the best part of his game. Take a look at the game logs from last year and you'll see that of his 7 TD's 4 were from long distance (29, 33, 46, 56).
Yes, but they could all be 5 yard catches/passes, with huge YAC. What type of a receiver is he? Which more well-known WR would you compare him to? Is Steve Smith a good comparison?
Santana Moss is his best comparison for how he plays the game. If your watching their games its frustrating since they're invisible for alot of it but then they rip off the huge gainer which makes it all even out.
 
I'm not entirely familiar with Lee Evans skill set. Could someone please explain what type of receiver he is?? One poster compared him to Steve Smith. Is Evans more of a YAC receiver? Is he good at getting separation? Is he purely a dep threat, or does he get some slot passes as well?
he has elite speed, is very smooth in and out of his breaks, runs pretty precise routes, has very soft hands, is strong with a low center of gravity, can break tackles or make tacklers miss in the open field. his only real weakness is a lack of ideal height so I think Steve Smith is a decent comparison for his upside, but he's not quite there yet. While he was in college, there was a time (pre-injury) when Lee Evans was considered by some experts to be one of the most talented players in the country and a possible top pick overall in the NFL draft. You don't get that kind of hype if you're not an incredible talent with huge upside. No idea why the Bills and Losman didn't utilize him more yesterday, but I wouldn't write him off yet. He should get some chances this week against the Dolphins, a team that he scored 3 TDs against in the 1st quarter the last time they faced each other.
 
The Pats clearly gameplanned for Evans -- Ellis Hobbs was on him every play and in Evans own words, "rerouted" him in the passing game quite a bit.

If other teams pick up on the fact that he can be shut down like that, it could be a long season for Lee Evans owners.

 
I'm not entirely familiar with Lee Evans skill set. Could someone please explain what type of receiver he is?? One poster compared him to Steve Smith. Is Evans more of a YAC receiver? Is he good at getting separation? Is he purely a dep threat, or does he get some slot passes as well?
I wouldn't say he's totally a deep threat (ala Lelie) but that's definitely the best part of his game. Take a look at the game logs from last year and you'll see that of his 7 TD's 4 were from long distance (29, 33, 46, 56).
Yes, but they could all be 5 yard catches/passes, with huge YAC. What type of a receiver is he? Which more well-known WR would you compare him to? Is Steve Smith a good comparison?
Santana Moss is his best comparison for how he plays the game. If your watching their games its frustrating since they're invisible for alot of it but then they rip off the huge gainer which makes it all even out.
I always thought of him as a young Marvin Harrison. Not in terms of production (duh), but in terms of skillset - precise routes, excellent change of direction, deep speed. Am I misreading him?
 
i am not sure if he was blanketed or not, but they certainly didnt try to get him the ball much. that will change next week.

 
I will be trading for him in every league where he isn't already on my roster. One game is not enough to make me forget all the good things I have seen Evans do. I expect Evans to be top twenty and I think he has a genuine shot at breaking into the top ten.

 
When evaluating WRs, I don't think FF addicts give enough credit or blame for their WRs success and failures to the QB. WR is the one position where talent doesn't always win for fantasy football owners.

 
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I was surprised by two things in this game. 1) Losman looked better than I thought he would. He showed flashes, at least, even if inconsistently. 2) The Bills really spread the ball around to different receivers. I had expected J.P. to really be locked onto Evans primarily. Maybe that was just wishful thinking!

 
Evans didn't seem to get as many looks as I would have thought. Eitehr way, I wouldn't be worried. I think NE doubled him most of the time and they are a pretty good D when healthy.

Other WRs had bad games too. It's the nature of the position. C. Johnson, Holt, Wayne, Walker, R. Smith, D. Jackson, Mason and M. Clayton all performed well bellow expectations as well.

 
Evans didn't seem to get as many looks as I would have thought. Eitehr way, I wouldn't be worried. I think NE doubled him most of the time and they are a pretty good D when healthy. Other WRs had bad games too. It's the nature of the position. C. Johnson, Holt, Wayne, Walker, R. Smith, D. Jackson, Mason and M. Clayton all performed well bellow expectations as well.
actually Holt had a nice day. He just bobbled a 20 yard catch on the sideline and Bulger missed him wide open at least once in the endzone.
 
Evans didn't seem to get as many looks as I would have thought. Eitehr way, I wouldn't be worried. I think NE doubled him most of the time and they are a pretty good D when healthy. Other WRs had bad games too. It's the nature of the position. C. Johnson, Holt, Wayne, Walker, R. Smith, D. Jackson, Mason and M. Clayton all performed well bellow expectations as well.
actually Holt had a nice day. He just bobbled a 20 yard catch on the sideline and Bulger missed him wide open at least once in the endzone.
Nice does not = expectations though. Holt only had 80 yds with no TDs. I think his owners would expect more than that. Right or wrong.
 
Evans didn't seem to get as many looks as I would have thought. Eitehr way, I wouldn't be worried. I think NE doubled him most of the time and they are a pretty good D when healthy. Other WRs had bad games too. It's the nature of the position. C. Johnson, Holt, Wayne, Walker, R. Smith, D. Jackson, Mason and M. Clayton all performed well bellow expectations as well.
actually Holt had a nice day. He just bobbled a 20 yard catch on the sideline and Bulger missed him wide open at least once in the endzone.
Nice does not = expectations though. Holt only had 80 yds with no TDs. I think his owners would expect more than that. Right or wrong.
I expect consistency and that's what he gave. Even his "bad" or off games he gives you 8-9 pts (non-ppr). That's his floor game a thing or two breaks right and he has a great game. I wouldn't do backflips if I were a Holt owner but matched up against one of the top CB's in Bailey and a good denver D I'd say it's a good game.
 
Evans didn't seem to get as many looks as I would have thought. Eitehr way, I wouldn't be worried. I think NE doubled him most of the time and they are a pretty good D when healthy. Other WRs had bad games too. It's the nature of the position. C. Johnson, Holt, Wayne, Walker, R. Smith, D. Jackson, Mason and M. Clayton all performed well bellow expectations as well.
actually Holt had a nice day. He just bobbled a 20 yard catch on the sideline and Bulger missed him wide open at least once in the endzone.
Nice does not = expectations though. Holt only had 80 yds with no TDs. I think his owners would expect more than that. Right or wrong.
I expect consistency and that's what he gave. Even his "bad" or off games he gives you 8-9 pts (non-ppr). That's his floor game a thing or two breaks right and he has a great game. I wouldn't do backflips if I were a Holt owner but matched up against one of the top CB's in Bailey and a good denver D I'd say it's a good game.
He was matched up against Darrent Williams their #2 CB quite a bit as well. Denver keeps Bailey on one side, and doesn't switch sides if the #1 WR goes to the other side of the field. They do that with their LB's as well. So for one play Gold is on the strong side, and another DJ is on the strong side depending on the formation of the offense.
 
One thing to keep in mind about the Losman/Evans connection: BB has an amazing track record for humbling opposing QBs. All things considered, us Bills homers should be very encouraged by JP's performance. An away game, division opponent, solid and well coached defense - and still JP seemed to manage the game pretty well. Must factor in the penalties as well.

I think LE is getting more looks this year then last, but we must also factor in that NE seemed to shift all their coverage to his side of the field - all the time. Throw in a nicely watered down and muddied field, and a heaping of 2nd half blitzing, and it tells you that NE did not treat LE like a below average WR1. They took him very seriously.

With that in mind, we can expect Evans to start performing to expectations. I know I wouldn't trade him or bench him this week...

 
I'd also add that the Bills were actually in control most of the game and they were running effectively for the most part. I think they played not to lose and didn't really take too many chances down the field. Maybe Lee was simply covered well, as Price got into the action early with some short stuff, but I suspect Jauron wanted to see if the could grind some clock since they were ahead. McGahee getting stuffed on that 4th down really cost the Bills the game. Gutsy call though, he should of gotten it. Good game.

 
I'd also add that the Bills were actually in control most of the game and they were running effectively for the most part. I think they played not to lose and didn't really take too many chances down the field. Maybe Lee was simply covered well, as Price got into the action early with some short stuff, but I suspect Jauron wanted to see if the could grind some clock since they were ahead. McGahee getting stuffed on that 4th down really cost the Bills the game. Gutsy call though, he should of gotten it. Good game.
This is why I disagree with your assessment that they were playing not to lose. If they were, they take the 3 points from the 6 with a 10 point lead in a heartbeat as opposed to going for it on 4th and 1 on the road.
 
I'd also add that the Bills were actually in control most of the game and they were running effectively for the most part. I think they played not to lose and didn't really take too many chances down the field. Maybe Lee was simply covered well, as Price got into the action early with some short stuff, but I suspect Jauron wanted to see if the could grind some clock since they were ahead. McGahee getting stuffed on that 4th down really cost the Bills the game. Gutsy call though, he should of gotten it. Good game.
This is why I disagree with your assessment that they were playing not to lose. If they were, they take the 3 points from the 6 with a 10 point lead in a heartbeat as opposed to going for it on 4th and 1 on the road.
Good point. But a first down, and a TD, would of sealed the game IMO. That was a risk, but they were rolling and you can never have too many point vs. Brady at home. That was the riskiest play of the whole game, and they played grinder ball. Buffalo wasn't throwing a lot. Maybe that is how they'll play this year, but I suspect they can only afford to that when ahead in games. The Bills were in control of this game, they had the lead, and really didn't NEED to throw, especially with the running game on track.
 
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I'd also add that the Bills were actually in control most of the game and they were running effectively for the most part. I think they played not to lose and didn't really take too many chances down the field. Maybe Lee was simply covered well, as Price got into the action early with some short stuff, but I suspect Jauron wanted to see if the could grind some clock since they were ahead. McGahee getting stuffed on that 4th down really cost the Bills the game. Gutsy call though, he should of gotten it. Good game.
This is why I disagree with your assessment that they were playing not to lose. If they were, they take the 3 points from the 6 with a 10 point lead in a heartbeat as opposed to going for it on 4th and 1 on the road.
Good point. But a first down, and a TD, would of sealed the game IMO. That was a risk, but they were rolling and you can never have too many point vs. Brady at home. That was the riskiest play of the whole game, and they played grinder ball. Buffalo wasn't throwing a lot. Maybe that is how they'll play this year, but I suspect they can only afford to that when ahead in games. The Bills were in control of this game, they had the lead, and really didn't NEED to throw, especially with the running game on track.
I thought it was an idiotic call. You don't try to win the game in the 3rd quarter. Take the 3 pts there. I wouldn't say Buffalo was in Control. They got 7 on the opening play by their D. To that point they had put 10 points on the board and held the Pats to 7, with a lot of time to go. Take the 3. That's why #### Jauron hasn't had a HC gig in a while. He was wrong, and as the final score stood, that extra 3 has Buffalo up by 1. Of course the game could have played out differently w/ the Pats kicking another FG at the end, but it was a bad call. As for Evans. I though the Bill had some nice, unique looking plays early, and they caught the Pats by surprise. In the first half, the Pats had trouble containing them, and it did lead to the 10 points, and 17-7 lead. It's a new regime, and there's no film to review. The Pats were flying blind. They got to adjust, and flat out dominated from that 4th down stop on.

Losman played good, but once the Pats began to turn up the pressure, his play was a lot more suspect. In the very soft zone early, he hit some throws. Late, he hit very little. I like Evans skill set, but have questions about the guy getting him the ball, and the guys giving Losman time to get rid of the ball. Saw a lot of double moves out of the Bills. Good strategy, but they take time to develop. The Pats played vanilla early, making the Bills line look good. When they tried to come at Losman late, the Bills couldn't hold them back. I will say the Pats front is very good. But, in taking Evans, he's not my area of concern. These other things are.

Be heartened Bills fans. You'll probably win 6 games on the strength of that D. And 8 if the O shows up. Fire Jauron and hire anybody else, and you get to 10.

 

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