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LenDale White's 40 speed (1 Viewer)

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What are everyone's thoughts in regards to LenDale White and what his 40 time will be at the Pro Day?Are there any reports of what he's been timed at in the past or what people are expecting him to run?What would be considered "good" and "bad" times for a guy his size and playing style?Personally, after rewatching the Rose Bowl on my TiVo last night, I have a hard time believing that he'll break the 4.6 mark, even though scouting reports that I've read have him listed in the low 4.5'sSomething about the way he runs looks a bit strange to me and could hinder him when being timed strictly in a straight line sprint...when he's starting to get up to speed he points his toes outwards (think reverse pigeon toe) and I can't imagine this style would time very well.I would think the following would be good benchmarks for him...- Good: 4.55 or faster (this could get him into the Top 10)- Expected: 4.60 - 4.65 (this is what I expect him to run)- Bad: 4.70 or slower

 
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My understanding is that he is a mid 4.6 guy. Anything below that shoudl be considered a plus for him. My lord of he runs a 4.5 LOOK OUT!

 
I've been wondering this too. I bet a friend a while back that LenDale would come out this year. Made $80 there. We then went double or nothing on where he'd go. I get top 15, he gets outside of the top 20, with 16-20 being a wash.He says he's too slow to go go top 20. But I figured if he runs a sub 4.6, he should be money. So, I'm liking what I'm hearing here so far.

 
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I think his character concerns are as important as his speed questions.  I dont see him going in the top 15.
What character concerns?
Yeah, what character concerns?
I don't think there are any "officially" listed off-field concerns.....some negatives I've heard is that he's dumb as rocks and has a tendancy to get himself "out of shape"And he's not a humble person to say the least...he thinks pretty highly of himself if you know what I mean. Whether this is a negative or a positive can be pitched both ways.

 
I think his character concerns are as important as his speed questions.  I dont see him going in the top 15.
What character concerns?
Yeah, what character concerns?
I don't think there are any "officially" listed off-field concerns.....some negatives I've heard is that he's dumb as rocks and has a tendancy to get himself "out of shape"And he's not a humble person to say the least...he thinks pretty highly of himself if you know what I mean. Whether this is a negative or a positive can be pitched both ways.
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I think his character concerns are as important as his speed questions.  I dont see him going in the top 15.
What character concerns?
Yeah, what character concerns?
I don't think there are any "officially" listed off-field concerns.....some negatives I've heard is that he's dumb as rocks and has a tendancy to get himself "out of shape"And he's not a humble person to say the least...he thinks pretty highly of himself if you know what I mean. Whether this is a negative or a positive can be pitched both ways.
Thats true, he did the bare minimum to stay eligible and openly expressed his displeasure of going to class.
 
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Basically the long and short of it is that there seems to be a perception that White is a bit of a thug, for lack of a better word. I've heard this talk as well, but dont' really have any links that would indicate it. Just hearsay.

 
Basically the long and short of it is that there seems to be a perception that White is a bit of a thug, for lack of a better word. I've heard this talk as well, but dont' really have any links that would indicate it. Just hearsay.
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Basically the long and short of it is that there seems to be a perception that White is a bit of a thug, for lack of a better word. I've heard this talk as well, but dont' really have any links that would indicate it. Just hearsay.
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I thought you followed UCS football? I'm in PA and have heard these rumors.
 
Basically the long and short of it is that there seems to be a perception that White is a bit of a thug, for lack of a better word. I've heard this talk as well, but dont' really have any links that would indicate it. Just hearsay.
Have to disagree here. White is not close to the "thug" label. Not interested in school? Yes. But a bad guy? Certainly not. If he runs under a 4.55, he will be a top 15 pick. Mark it down.
 
Basically the long and short of it is that there seems to be a perception that White is a bit of a thug, for lack of a better word. I've heard this talk as well, but dont' really have any links that would indicate it. Just hearsay.
Have to disagree here. White is not close to the "thug" label. Not interested in school? Yes. But a bad guy? Certainly not. If he runs under a 4.55, he will be a top 15 pick. Mark it down.
Just to be clear, I am not calling him one. Only reiterating some rumors I have heard.
 
Basically the long and short of it is that there seems to be a perception that White is a bit of a thug, for lack of a better word.  I've heard this talk as well, but dont' really have any links that would indicate it.  Just hearsay.
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I thought you followed UCS football? I'm in PA and have heard these rumors.
Yes I do very closely and have never heard anything of the sort.The two knocks on Lendale, are:

1. Does not like to go to class. He was more of a sure bet to go pro than Bush this year because of it.

2. Wanted more of the offense to run through him.

Not sure how either of these are thug like qualities.

 
Basically the long and short of it is that there seems to be a perception that White is a bit of a thug, for lack of a better word. I've heard this talk as well, but dont' really have any links that would indicate it. Just hearsay.
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I thought you followed UCS football? I'm in PA and have heard these rumors.
Yes I do very closely and have never heard anything of the sort.The two knocks on Lendale, are:

1. Does not like to go to class. He was more of a sure bet to go pro than Bush this year because of it.

2. Wanted more of the offense to run through him.

Not sure how either of these are thug like qualities.
:shrug: Not sure either. I have been very high on WHite all along and was at one point hoping he would fall to the Steelers. So much for that idea. :rant:
 
Basically the long and short of it is that there seems to be a perception that White is a bit of a thug, for lack of a better word. I've heard this talk as well, but dont' really have any links that would indicate it. Just hearsay.
:lmao: at White being called a thug.He went to my highschool, in the middle of white suburbia. I graduated two years ahead of him. He wasn't a thug then. Cocky? Sure. But my school didn't have thugs, just idiots.

 
i have heard the didn't like school stuff... not the thug rumors... for instance... sean taylor supposedly had character questions & they seemed to be on the mark (depending on outcome of upcoming trial, his uniform could be orange for next few years, & not due to trade with broncos, if you know what i mean)... shawne merriman supposedly was rumored to be a bad guy... but that may have just been his intensity rubbing scouts wrong way (though i thought it referred to hanging with bad crowd... maybe this will surface in future)... certainly nothing wrong with his work ethic & motor.the word with white is that he would have had to take a full load in summer school just to maintain academic eligibility... it was totally expected that he would forgo his remaining USC eligibility. sometimes poor academic work ethic translates to laziness... chad johnson got kicked off his juco team for poor grades & he obviously turned out OK... i think more important is does a player have passion for the game & desire to get better... some players are good at fooling scouts in interviews, & telling them what they want to hear.not to dispute prep times, but i would fall aff my chair if white runs a 4.4... actually, i wouldn't be surprised by 4.6... but maybe he is faster than i think & will turn in a 4.5 or even sub... that said, i think he could run a 4.6 & still be picked in top half of round 1... his game is more about power than speed...

 
He seems to be more a rumbler than a speed type. I see a Rob Carpenter type runner when I see him, I'm not even sure if he is a feature back in the next level(unless the team doesn't have a decent back).......

 
Basically the long and short of it is that there seems to be a perception that White is a bit of a thug, for lack of a better word.  I've heard this talk as well, but dont' really have any links that would indicate it.  Just hearsay.
:confused:
I thought you followed UCS football? I'm in PA and have heard these rumors.
This is what I was referring to. I get the feeling hes going to be one of those guys that after the interview at the combine, an NFL coach/GM can't imagine having to deal with for the next 5 years.
 
He's not a thug in the mold of 2pac. But he is dumb. I have taken bets that he'll score the lowest wonderlic EVER in the combines. Also one of the reasons why he was strictly the "rumbler" since he could not happen anything else mentally.And for God's sake, this is USC we are talking about, if you are even close to failing classes at USC.... :loco: :ph34r:

 
Basically the long and short of it is that there seems to be a perception that White is a bit of a thug, for lack of a better word.  I've heard this talk as well, but dont' really have any links that would indicate it.  Just hearsay.
:lmao: at White being called a thug.He went to my highschool, in the middle of white suburbia. I graduated two years ahead of him. He wasn't a thug then. Cocky? Sure. But my school didn't have thugs, just idiots.
Dave Logan (his hs coach and friend of mine) has nothing but good things to say about LenDale. he talks with him at least once a month, and remains close to his mother/family. Good ole Chatfield HS. I live right down the road from this school. My kids will go to Chatfield when they get older.

 
He seems to be more a rumbler than a speed type. I see a Rob Carpenter type runner when I see him, I'm not even sure if he is a feature back in the next level(unless the team doesn't have a decent back).......
Rob Carpenter, now there's a blast from the past! Let's stay with that Oilers theme and compare him to Lorenzo White or Gary Brown.I think he's more of a Rudi Johnson type back, but with more fire. When Rudi came out of Auburn the knock on him was lack of speed. In his 1 year at Auburn he was SEC player of the year. LenDale will be a first rounder and get a chance to be a featured runner, he's certainly more than capable.

 
I only compared him to Rob Carpenter because I can't think of any other rumblers that were feature backs(recently). He is probably faster than Carpenter was but really I see him having good fullback speed but not elite tailback speed.....

 
He seems to be more a rumbler than a speed type. I see a Rob Carpenter type runner when I see him, I'm not even sure if he is a feature back in the next level(unless the team doesn't have a decent back).......
Rob Carpenter, now there's a blast from the past! Let's stay with that Oilers theme and compare him to Lorenzo White or Gary Brown.
Let's hope he's no Alonzo Highsmith.
 
He's faster than he looks. He'll probably run in the 4.55-4.65 range.I don't know if he has any serious character issues, but I do know that he's become good friends with Snoop Dogg. Maybe the NFL people think the LA limelight has gotten to his head. At any rate, I wouldn't worry too much. He seems to play hard and I'm pretty sure that his criminal record is spotless.

 
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Basically the long and short of it is that there seems to be a perception that White is a bit of a thug, for lack of a better word.  I've heard this talk as well, but dont' really have any links that would indicate it.  Just hearsay.
:lmao: at White being called a thug.He went to my highschool, in the middle of white suburbia. I graduated two years ahead of him. He wasn't a thug then. Cocky? Sure. But my school didn't have thugs, just idiots.
Dave Logan (his hs coach and friend of mine) has nothing but good things to say about LenDale. he talks with him at least once a month, and remains close to his mother/family. Good ole Chatfield HS. I live right down the road from this school. My kids will go to Chatfield when they get older.
I guess this means you live right down the road from me, too. Sorta, anyway. I'm at Chatfield and Kipling.So we're clear, I was not implying in my previous post that LenDale was one of the idiots, just that Chatfield has them. No thugs.

 
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Personally, I'm hoping he runs a 4.65 and scores a 2 on the Wonderlic. Then he may be available to the Steelers at the end of the 1st. You want to bring up 'character issues?' First of all, doesn't a majority of males ranging from 15-22 years old have 'character issues?' I was an idiot, as were most of my friends and teammates.I'll give you 2 reasons why his school work means nothing.1. Intelligence at the RB and CB positions are negligible. In fact, I've heard before that some coaches prefer stupid players @ those positions, 'cause they don't tend to 'outthink' themselves, rather play on instincts. 2. I have a high I.Q. (not bragging, as I'm sure there's plenty of people smarter than me on this site right now). I mainained a PERFECT 2.0 GPA for my high school years. Just well enough to keep playing football. I couldn't stand school and saw it as adolescent day-care. Football practice, weights, food, sleep and girls were all much more important to me that homework. Can't say I blame the kid.

 
Basically the long and short of it is that there seems to be a perception that White is a bit of a thug, for lack of a better word. I've heard this talk as well, but dont' really have any links that would indicate it. Just hearsay.
:lmao: at White being called a thug.He went to my highschool, in the middle of white suburbia. I graduated two years ahead of him. He wasn't a thug then. Cocky? Sure. But my school didn't have thugs, just idiots.
To be fair, he transfered to Chatfield after his sophomore year at Denver East, where he was already a stud. Took some heat for it, and took along 5 other players. (This was a big deal when it happened, and called the open enrollment rules into question). So, he's an east sider, not from white suburbia. He transferred to Chatfield to play for Logan, and they took all the players, because it gave him, and Chatfield an inside shot at the state title, with their new coach from Arapahoe East, Dave Logan, and this wealth of talent. I hope he stumbles to a 4.8, and right to pick number 21. I'd love to see him play for NE. He's bigger than Dillon was out of college, but they're similar types of runners. Both are coming out after their junior year (Dillon was in JUCO, and 1 year at UW. Dillon would make a nice mentor.

Yes, he's the guy I want on NE in the 1st round. I'd also take DeAngelo Williams. IF they're both gone, Hawk or Greenway. I'd be happy w/ any of the 4.

 
Is a 4.8 runner a first rounder at all? I suspect Alstott was a 4.8 guy at his best and Tampa never drafted him for his running ability. I can't see him running a 4.8, he looks more like a 4.6 kind of guy. But if he pulled a Clarett and ran a 4.8 he should be a second rounder or maybe even a third......

 
Is a 4.8 runner a first rounder at all? I suspect Alstott was a 4.8 guy at his best and Tampa never drafted him for his running ability. I can't see him running a 4.8, he looks more like a 4.6 kind of guy. But if he pulled a Clarett and ran a 4.8 he should be a second rounder or maybe even a third......
I was being facetious, hence the 'stumbles to a 4.8'. I think he'll be a grean NFL back, and I'd love to see him fall to the Pats. It was merely a scenario I came up with to make it happen.
 
Couple comments.My niece is at USC and had a class with LenDale... a writing class. She thinks he's a great big sweetheart. Very humble, playful sense of humor, not a trace of thuggishness, a really nice guy who treats everybody the same. Polite and respectful to adults in an old fashioned kind of way. And she cannot stand some of the football players who think they're all that. No matter what he clocks in the 40, LenDale has pad speed or game speed or whatever you want to call it. DBs do not catch him from behind very often, and he accelerates very quickly-- excellent burst for any size back.

 
No matter what he clocks in the 40, LenDale has pad speed or game speed or whatever you want to call it. DBs do not catch him from behind very often, and he accelerates very quickly-- excellent burst for any size back.
:goodposting: He's one of the most ideal between the tackle runners I've seen in a while. He will provide an instant running game to whatever team he lands on. Right now, I think there's no way he gets past New England. Arizona and Minnesota would be wise to take a long look at him. Even Baltimore depending on their plans for Lewis and Taylor. If I had a power running attack and a solid 3rd down back already on the roster, I would probably rank White ahead of Williams, even with the great senior bowl week Deangelo is having.

 
I would probably rank White ahead of Williams, even with the great senior bowl week Deangelo is having.
That's a tough call. DeAngelo is so complete. He's smaller, but he's getting really high grades for his hands. power and blocking. Pass blocking has been an issue for White. I have mentioned White's nice hands several times though. I think they're both very good and should be graded as high as Cadillac and Benson were a year ago. Good health, coaching and offensive lines will determine who does better at the next level.
 
I would probably rank White ahead of Williams, even with the great senior bowl week Deangelo is having.
That's a tough call. DeAngelo is so complete. He's smaller, but he's getting really high grades for his hands. power and blocking. Pass blocking has been an issue for White. I have mentioned White's nice hands several times though. I think they're both very good and should be graded as high as Cadillac and Benson were a year ago. Good health, coaching and offensive lines will determine who does better at the next level.
remember i said IF you run a power running attack AND you already have a solid 3rd down back. for grading independant of these kinds of factors, i would put williams ahead of white.
 
LenDale White's 40 speed, what's expected at combine?

Height, weight, answer a few questions. I'd be surprised if he choses to run at the combine.

 
LenDale White's 40 speed, what's expected at combine?

Height, weight, answer a few questions. I'd be surprised if he choses to run at the combine.
He'll eventually have to run....how about his Pro Day then?
 
Basically the long and short of it is that there seems to be a perception that White is a bit of a thug, for lack of a better word.  I've heard this talk as well, but dont' really have any links that would indicate it.  Just hearsay.
:lmao: at White being called a thug.He went to my highschool, in the middle of white suburbia. I graduated two years ahead of him. He wasn't a thug then. Cocky? Sure. But my school didn't have thugs, just idiots.
To be fair, he transfered to Chatfield after his sophomore year at Denver East, where he was already a stud. Took some heat for it, and took along 5 other players. (This was a big deal when it happened, and called the open enrollment rules into question). So, he's an east sider, not from white suburbia. He transferred to Chatfield to play for Logan, and they took all the players, because it gave him, and Chatfield an inside shot at the state title, with their new coach from Arapahoe East, Dave Logan, and this wealth of talent.
This is mostly true, but for some reason I thought he transferred after his freshman year. I'm just saying he wasn't a thug when he arrived, and since Chatfield doesn't have thugs, I'm assuming he never became one. By the way, Logan transferred from Arvada West, not Arapahoe East (a school I wasn't even aware existed).

And his plan worked. Chatfield won the title the year after I graduated. They went from an at best .500 team to state champs. Logas has that effect. Then he jumped ship to Mullen. Immediately after Logan left, Chatfield slipped back to mediocrity.

 
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