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Leon Washington #1 RB for Jets? (1 Viewer)

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Has anyone else heard anything about this?

Here is the full link: http://thehazean.com/2008/09/29/grab-bag-week-5-2/#more-536

Leon Washington [RB, Jets] - Latest out of the Jets camp is that Washington has passed up Thomas Jones as the No. 1 runningback. This could be a changing of the guard as the Jets look to a younger back to take over the load. Jones has looked less than stellar this season, so Leon should continue to increase his workload.
 
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Has anyone else heard anything about this? Here is the full link: http://thehazean.com/2008/09/29/grab-bag-week-5-2/#more-536

Leon Washington [RB, Jets] - Latest out of the Jets camp is that Washington has passed up Thomas Jones as the No. 1 runningback. This could be a changing of the guard as the Jets look to a younger back to take over the load. Jones has looked less than stellar this season, so Leon should continue to increase his workload.
Is there any legitimicy to this? ANyone?
 
that was 9/29. If true, why wouldn't anyone else have picked up on it?
My guess is whoever writes on that site looked at the box score of the Jets' last game, saw Washington had his season high in carries and touches and made a leap in thinking that meant he was now the team's No. 1 RB.
 
from CBS sportsline:

Washington not a sneaky Week 6 play: Jets RB Leon Washington managed to start Week 4 vs. Arizona, but didn't have stats like a starter (he had a season-high 11 touches but usual starter Thomas Jones had more carries). Might this be the week Washington posts a big game on offense? He faces a beleaguered Bengals run defense that ranks 29th vs. the run and has given up six touchdowns this season. They're also giving up over 170 rush yards per game, and the tandem of Felix Jones and Marion Barber each topped 90 total yards on them last week.

(Updated 10/07/2008).
 
from CBS sportsline:

Washington not a sneaky Week 6 play: Jets RB Leon Washington managed to start Week 4 vs. Arizona, but didn't have stats like a starter (he had a season-high 11 touches but usual starter Thomas Jones had more carries). Might this be the week Washington posts a big game on offense? He faces a beleaguered Bengals run defense that ranks 29th vs. the run and has given up six touchdowns this season. They're also giving up over 170 rush yards per game, and the tandem of Felix Jones and Marion Barber each topped 90 total yards on them last week.

(Updated 10/07/2008).
I don't recall the first play of the Jets' Week 4 game but Washington may have technically "started" because of a personnel alignment. Say the Jets opened with three WRs and Washington in the backfield on the first play. So that would mean Washington and Stuckey technically started the game. That doesn't mean either one of them is a starter, though.For what it's worth - I do like Leon as a RB3 option in PPR leagues this week. He's risky as hell but there is some serious upside if he's involved in the game plan.

 
Haven't read anything to suggest that in any of the papers. If Justin Miller comes back to assume some KR and PR duties I think there may be a bit more to this, but Mangini has said Miller has had setbacks, thus Leon will be there. He has not mentioned anything about Leon getting more reps, nor have the papers said that as well. I still think it was telling that Jones had every single carry in the 4th Q when they needed a running game the most. Very good COP back, but I think Jones will be given the opportunity to run the ball versus the Bengals this week. But it is something I will keep my eye on the next few days.

 
I have no idea how legit this article is but looking at how the Bengals have been stuffing the run up the middle the past 2 weeks (barber and Jacobs) both struggled against them I can see how Leon would do very well against them. They had no answer for outside runs against felix jones, I can see how leon could be a very sneaky play this week.

Im really scratching my head over TJones ranking this week against the bengals.

 
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It may take a few weeks to get him up and going but the Jets got Jesse Chatman back. I think they are going to lessen TJ's role but due to Chatman I doubt Leon see's a sizable increase in his role.

 
heres what the nydailynews had to say

http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/jets/2008...ets-week-4.html

Running Backs: C

Interesting that Leon Washington got the start over Jones, who had only eight carries for 25 yards going into the fourth quarter. That said, neither runner was particularly effective, combining for 25 rushes and 72 yards, a woeful 2.9 average. Washington was a factor in the passing game, especially on bubble screens. The pass protection was better than last week. FB Tony Richardson had a drop.

rotoworld

http://rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/p...NFL&id=3739

Leon Washington opened Week 4 as the Jets' starting tailback over Thomas Jones. Washington had 11 touches in the game to Jones' 20.

The Jets sometimes used Washington on the first snap last year, too, so this isn't necessarily a depth chart switch, but bears watching. Jones is averaging only 3.8 YPC through four games and hasn't topped 46 rushing yards since Week 2. Washington's already taken over as the primary two-minute back.

 
Heard an interview with Thomas Jones about this. They started the game with a package that uses Washington as the back. Jones claims that they're not changing anything.

He's getting about 4 carries for every 1 for Washington, and 3.8 ypc compared to 3.9 for Washington. Week 4 he got 20 touches to Washington's 11. Week 3 it was 12 touches to 3 for Washington. Doesn't seem like they're making any kind of drastic change.

 
Has anyone else heard anything about this?

Here is the full link: http://thehazean.com/2008/09/29/grab-bag-week-5-2/#more-536

Leon Washington [RB, Jets] - Latest out of the Jets camp is that Washington has passed up Thomas Jones as the No. 1 runningback. This could be a changing of the guard as the Jets look to a younger back to take over the load. Jones has looked less than stellar this season, so Leon should continue to increase his workload.
dude, do you even watch Jets games?! :goodposting: TJ looks better than Washington, and neither has looked all-world partly due to the schedule they've played so far, and the fact that they were pass-happy against Az..

looking at the Jets schedule, TJ will easily become a top 15 RB for the remainder of the season, especially now that Favre has offense 'figured out'..

I think the bye week helped Favre and Co tremendously.. :thumbup:

I'd bet that this offense will look sharp and in sync, beginning this weekend..

Just remember, LT started off slowly last season, how'd things turn out for him?!

 
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Has anyone else heard anything about this?

Here is the full link: http://thehazean.com/2008/09/29/grab-bag-week-5-2/#more-536

Leon Washington [RB, Jets] - Latest out of the Jets camp is that Washington has passed up Thomas Jones as the No. 1 runningback. This could be a changing of the guard as the Jets look to a younger back to take over the load. Jones has looked less than stellar this season, so Leon should continue to increase his workload.
dude, do you even watch Jets games?! :goodposting: TJ looks better than Washington, and neither has looked all-world partly due to the schedule they've played so far, and the fact that they were pass-happy against Az..

looking at the Jets schedule, TJ will easily become a top 15 RB for the remainder of the season, especially now that Favre has offense 'figured out'..

I think the bye week helped Favre and Co tremendously.. :thumbup:

I'd bet that this offense will look sharp and in sync, beginning this weekend..

Just remember, LT started off slowly last season, how'd things turn out for him?!
What's with the rolleyes? Maybe he doesn't watch Jets games, is that impossible to believe? Not everyone watches every game. He's not making the claim that Washington has passed up Jones -- he's posting a link to someone else saying he did, which is exactly how it should have been handled.Secondly, the part about LT starting off slowly is irrelevant to the situation of Thomas Jones or any other player for that matter. Just because one guy at one time started off slowly and then rebounded doesn't mean anything with another guy.

Just remember, Warrick Dunn started off slowly last season, how'd things turn out for him?

See? We could play that game all day.

 
Has anyone else heard anything about this?

Here is the full link: http://thehazean.com/2008/09/29/grab-bag-week-5-2/#more-536

Leon Washington [RB, Jets] - Latest out of the Jets camp is that Washington has passed up Thomas Jones as the No. 1 runningback. This could be a changing of the guard as the Jets look to a younger back to take over the load. Jones has looked less than stellar this season, so Leon should continue to increase his workload.
dude, do you even watch Jets games?! :goodposting: TJ looks better than Washington, and neither has looked all-world partly due to the schedule they've played so far, and the fact that they were pass-happy against Az..

looking at the Jets schedule, TJ will easily become a top 15 RB for the remainder of the season, especially now that Favre has offense 'figured out'..

I think the bye week helped Favre and Co tremendously.. :thumbup:

I'd bet that this offense will look sharp and in sync, beginning this weekend..

Just remember, LT started off slowly last season, how'd things turn out for him?!
You're right, Thomas Jones fighting to keep his starting job for the Jets is just like last year's LT. Minus the talent, opportunity, track record, etc.The OP is a valid question based on comments that I hadn't seen before. I'll definitely be keeping a closer eye on Washington now, thanks OP.

 
I don't think Mangini would tell us ahead of time if it were true...pretty sure he wouldn't. Washington has to get the week 4 start for a reason. Maybe Jones was late to a meeting? Maybe it's lack of production wanting a change? Tough to guess here.

Even still, harder to guess if starter means "lion's share" or if it means "RBBC" with Thomas.

Many of us have thought Leon deserves a starting shot for a long long time now. Because of that it's going to be hard to NOT guess he's the starter here. I'm confident he'd be a very good FF back in PPR leagues if he could get more action.

Safest route is probably to think of it as RBBC and wait til after the game to decide from the results if anything is different

 
Safest route is probably to think of it as RBBC and wait til after the game to decide from the results if anything is different
I don't think there's any reason to think of this as a RBBC when Jones is dominating the carries. And as stated before by myself and others, Washington "started" the last game because the Jets employed a specific personnel alignment, not because he's ahead of Jones on the depth chart.
 
Has anyone else heard anything about this? Here is the full link: http://thehazean.com/2008/09/29/grab-bag-week-5-2/#more-536

Leon Washington [RB, Jets] - Latest out of the Jets camp is that Washington has passed up Thomas Jones as the No. 1 runningback. This could be a changing of the guard as the Jets look to a younger back to take over the load. Jones has looked less than stellar this season, so Leon should continue to increase his workload.
Is there any legitimicy to this? ANyone?
He did techinically start the last game and it does seem that the coaching staff is leaning his way more.The Jets have slowly shifted their philosophy to a passing offense instead of a grind it out offense as Favre has become more familiar with the playbook and his team-mates. Washington is more suited for that style. I have some doubst about him being able to get tough yards up the middle as he does not have that deceptive power/balance that some smaller backs like Westbrook or MJD have but he is clearly their most dynamic back. My guess is things continue how they have been for a while but Washington's role may increase over the course of the season.

 
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He has sitting on my bench all season. This news excites me :X I need a RB in the worst way.

 
Safest route is probably to think of it as RBBC and wait til after the game to decide from the results if anything is different
I don't think there's any reason to think of this as a RBBC when Jones is dominating the carries. And as stated before by myself and others, Washington "started" the last game because the Jets employed a specific personnel alignment, not because he's ahead of Jones on the depth chart.
As I said in the post you quoted, I don't think Mangini would tell us.I haven't seen any evidence to say it was only a personnel alignment start or that it was anything more than that. I thought I was very non-committal
 
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I haven't seen any evidence to say it was only a personnel alignment start or that it was anything more than that. I thought I was very non-committal
The evidence is the Jets having done the same type of thing at times last season. Washington would be on the field for the first snap, technically making him the "starter" even though Jones clearly was the No. 1 RB.I don't have a horse in this race and I happen to like Washington a lot and think the Jets should use him more. But I've seen nothing thus far to indicate he's going to become the starter.
 
Has anyone else heard anything about this? Here is the full link: http://thehazean.com/2008/09/29/grab-bag-week-5-2/#more-536

Leon Washington [RB, Jets] - Latest out of the Jets camp is that Washington has passed up Thomas Jones as the No. 1 runningback. This could be a changing of the guard as the Jets look to a younger back to take over the load. Jones has looked less than stellar this season, so Leon should continue to increase his workload.
Is there any legitimicy to this? ANyone?
He did techinically start the last game and it does seem that the coaching staff is leaning his way more.The Jets have slowly shifted their philosophy to a passing offense instead of a grind it out offense as Favre has become more familiar with the playbook and his team-mates. Washington is more suited for that style. I have some doubst about him being able to get tough yards up the middle as he does not have that deceptive power/balance that some smaller backs like Westbrook or MJD have but he is clearly their most dynamic back. My guess is things continue how they have been for a while but Washington's role may increase over the course of the season.
Although Washington did start the game it was clearly because of the strategy the Jets went into that game as they were hell bent on passing 70% of the time. Washington is just the back that typically plays in the passing schemes. That being said, my thinking is this strategy will continue to change on a game by game basis but its obviously a guess at best. I would be pretty concerned if they continue to pass as much as they did against 'Zona but can't imagine they will. As others have said, Jesse Chatman may be just as much of a threat to Jones as Washington appears to be.

 
Just remember, LT started off slowly last season, how'd things turn out for him?!
You're right, Thomas Jones fighting to keep his starting job for the Jets is just like last year's LT. Minus the talent, opportunity, track record, etc.The OP is a valid question based on comments that I hadn't seen before. I'll definitely be keeping a closer eye on Washington now, thanks OP.
:goodposting: eyerolls on this site seem to be like horns on a car - used too often and should be removed. i hadn't given too much thought of leon washington before, but now i will, especially with thomas jones' lack of production.
 
True, but 2007 TJ>>2008 TJ along with Leon getting 4 rushing TD's on 71 carries last year compared to TJ's 1 on 310.

 
True, but 2007 TJ>>2008 TJ along with Leon getting 4 rushing TD's on 71 carries last year compared to TJ's 1 on 310.
Washington only had 3 TDs last year. Also, there's a huge difference between getting a rushing TD while in a passing formation and actually trying to get a rushing TD while the defense is expecting the run.
 
My bad, I was looking at his 2006 stat line. You stilll have to factor in the fact that TJ ran out of some passing formations as well. While the defense may not have been fooled TJ has still underperformed otherwise this would be a nondiscussion.

 
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Since we're talking about last year.....Who was the NY Jets Team MVP last year?

Leon Washington

 
People need to stop with the Jesse Chatman talk.

Eight year veteran, undrafted free agent RBs who have done next to nothing in the NFL seldom catch fire and supplant proven veteran talilbacks. Even when the proven tailback is under performing this simply does not happen.

Chatman holds value as a replacement only if TJ gets injured. Even then he would likely be little more than a COP backup for L.Washington.

 
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People need to stop with the Jesse Chatman talk.Eight year veteran, undrafted free agent RBs who have done next to nothing in the NFL seldom catch fire and supplant proven veteran talilbacks. Even when the proven tailback is under performing this simply does not happen.Chatman holds value as a replacement only if TJ gets injured. Even then he would likely be little more than a COP backup for L.Washington.
:goodposting: Only injury will have Chatman seeing a big workload. If you watch Jets games (rhetorical you, not a personal attack on anyone) it is clear how their roles are defined. TJ is the primary back, Neon Leon is the KR, COP, 2 min drill back, and CHatman is the veteran backup for TJ, and will only see a few carries a game. If that changes, it changes, but that has been the role up until now.
 

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