Leonard Davis (1 Viewer)

[LHUCKS]

Heard on local sports talk radio that the Cards will be letting Leonard go...any rumors as to who might go after him?

 

[wannabee]

Heard on local sports talk radio that the Cards will be letting Leonard go...any rumors as to who might go after him?

I heard Cowboys

 

[Blackjacks]

I heard on NFL network that his old OLine coach is now in SF also add in the fact they have $30 million under the salary cap. Adam Scheftler says this is a likely destination.

 

[massraider]

Raiders

(Please add this auto-reply to any thread involving any O-lineman).

 

[Hawkeyeskin]

The two teams I heard that are the front runners for Davis are Dallas and San Fran. Which means he'll probably end up in Cleveland.

 

[bostonfred]

The only thing that makes less sense than the Cardinlas giving up on an offensive lineman is someone wanting a Cardinals offensive lineman.

 

[TheGreatest]

The only thing that makes less sense than the Cardinlas giving up on an offensive lineman is someone wanting a Cardinals offensive lineman.

L. Davis has been a disappointment in AZ. Thats why they are letting him go. He is not worth what it would cost for them to keep him. I think its the smart move for them. he has not lived up to the billing.FYI, my guess is he will end up in SF just because they have the cap room and because of his old OL coach.

 

[Kevin Ashcraft]

KC tried trading fro him at the trade deadline, according to many sources in KC. I am betting Davis may end up as the LT here.....we all know Carl Peterson loves throwing cash on veterans coming off their rookie deals.

 

[lord_helmet]

Anyone signing Davis as their LT is in for a huge disappointment, sad thing is he could be a Pro Bowler playing Guard.

 

[Kleck]

From what I've seen I wouldn't want him. Backup DE Daryl Tapp from Seattle made him look terrible. Davis has horribly slow feet for a OT. Tapp was able to keep him stumbling and off balance on multiple plays.

 

[QUEZILLA]

Tampa needs an OT bad, but I would hate to see them pay more money to a lazy OT (see Kenyatta Walker).

 

[Whiplash Inc.]

Raiders are looking at Newberry and Davis as the two main veteran free agents they're going after. Newberry is a lock, IMO, I don't know if Davis is feasible, financially.

 

[Bankerguy]

I have heard Cowboys, Browns, Niners.

 

[southeastjerome]

From Adam Schefter:

San Francisco has two factors that are going to be awfully enticing for free-agent offensive tackle Leonard Davis. For starters, the 49ers have more salary-cap room than any team in the league -- close to $40 million. And second, the 49ers offensive line coach is George Warhop, the former Cardinals offensive line coach who drafted and tutored Davis during his time in Arizona. Those two factors could make the 49ers the favorite to land Davis. But Dallas and Washington also will be interested.

Washington makes little sense to me as they already have Jansen and Samuels.

 

[LHUCKS]

From what I've seen I wouldn't want him. Backup DE Daryl Tapp from Seattle made him look terrible. Davis has horribly slow feet for a OT. Tapp was able to keep him stumbling and off balance on multiple plays.

there's always been a lot of talk of him moving to guard where he'd be a perennial Pro Bowler.But there's such a shortage of good LTs nobody will move him inside.

 

[commisholio]

If SF gets him, my understanding is that they'll put him at RT and either bench or cut Kwame Harris.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

From Adam Schefter:

San Francisco has two factors that are going to be awfully enticing for free-agent offensive tackle Leonard Davis. For starters, the 49ers have more salary-cap room than any team in the league -- close to $40 million. And second, the 49ers offensive line coach is George Warhop, the former Cardinals offensive line coach who drafted and tutored Davis during his time in Arizona. Those two factors could make the 49ers the favorite to land Davis. But Dallas and Washington also will be interested.

Washington makes little sense to me as they already have Jansen and Samuels.

Why is Warhop considered a plus? Davis underachieved under Warhop -- which, to me, should mean that Davis is less likely to want to go to San Fran, and San Fran is less likely to want to sign Davis.

 

[SammyJankis]

As a Cards fan I can tell you that if your team signs Davis, you better get use to seeing him false start about once a week.

In addition get use to watching him S-T-R-U-G-G-L-E with speed rushers.

Now on the flip side, if you can get him to play guard at a reasonable price, that right there would be a great signing.

 

[Sidewinder16]

From Adam Schefter:

San Francisco has two factors that are going to be awfully enticing for free-agent offensive tackle Leonard Davis.

For starters, the 49ers have more salary-cap room than any team in the league -- close to $40 million.

And second, the 49ers offensive line coach is George Warhop, the former Cardinals offensive line coach who drafted and tutored Davis during his time in Arizona.

Those two factors could make the 49ers the favorite to land Davis.

But Dallas and Washington also will be interested.

Washington makes little sense to me as they already have Jansen and Samuels.

From what I've seen I wouldn't want him. Backup DE Daryl Tapp from Seattle made him look terrible. Davis has horribly slow feet for a OT. Tapp was able to keep him stumbling and off balance on multiple plays.

there's always been a lot of talk of him moving to guard where he'd be a perennial Pro Bowler.But there's such a shortage of good LTs nobody will move him inside.

Washington may be about to lose their LG to FA (Dockery), so, on the surface, Washington makes a little sense (assuming a move to G for Davis, and since they are set at T).But I don't think Davis would be able to fill Dockery's shoes in that offense (pulling duties). So, in that regard, it makes little sense.

 

[Bri]

Giants could dip a toe in the water here

 

[LHUCKS]

But I don't think Davis would be able to fill Dockery's shoes in that offense (pulling duties). So, in that regard, it makes little sense.

Yeah, not a good fit where pulling duties are aggressive. He's still very athletic for his size though...he'd be a monster inside.

 

[Kleck]

Now on the flip side, if you can get him to play guard at a reasonable price, that right there would be a great signing.

Therein lies the problem. I doubt he'll take OG money when he knows he can get OT money regardless of what will be the best fit for him. Sure, we want him to play to his potential, but I don't blame him for trying to earn to his potential.

 

[V1LL]

From Adam Schefter:

San Francisco has two factors that are going to be awfully enticing for free-agent offensive tackle Leonard Davis. For starters, the 49ers have more salary-cap room than any team in the league -- close to $40 million. And second, the 49ers offensive line coach is George Warhop, the former Cardinals offensive line coach who drafted and tutored Davis during his time in Arizona. Those two factors could make the 49ers the favorite to land Davis. But Dallas and Washington also will be interested.

Washington makes little sense to me as they already have Jansen and Samuels.

Why is Warhop considered a plus? Davis underachieved under Warhop -- which, to me, should mean that Davis is less likely to want to go to San Fran, and San Fran is less likely to want to sign Davis.

that's what I was thinking too. seems to me Warhop had his chance.

 

[LHUCKS]

Now on the flip side, if you can get him to play guard at a reasonable price, that right there would be a great signing.

Therein lies the problem. I doubt he'll take OG money when he knows he can get OT money regardless of what will be the best fit for him. Sure, we want him to play to his potential, but I don't blame him for trying to earn to his potential.

 

[SammyJankis]

Now on the flip side, if you can get him to play guard at a reasonable price, that right there would be a great signing.

Therein lies the problem. I doubt he'll take OG money when he knows he can get OT money regardless of what will be the best fit for him. Sure, we want him to play to his potential, but I don't blame him for trying to earn to his potential.

Which is why he likely won't be back with the Cards. Some team is going to pay him OT money, and wish that they hadn't in a year or two.

 

[Gottabesweet]

I hope the Bills are interested in moving him to LG.

 

[Domination]

I think that he could succeed the same way that this type of switch from T to G worked for Shawn Andrews of the Eagles. He just wasn't fast enough for the quick DEs, so they moved him inside and he has been a dominating force. It could work the same for Davis, but as said previously, there is too much money going to be offered to play T.

 

[Warpig]

The only thing that makes less sense than the Cardinlas giving up on an offensive lineman is someone wanting a Cardinals offensive lineman.

...NO...EXCELLENT posting.

 

[nygiants56]

the Chiefs could use a few good o-linemen,what with 3 of their starters leaving before training camp started last season.

 

[marshall88]

What's the difference between OT and OG money? It seems to me that the Cardinals have so much room under the cap that they should just pay Davis the bottom of the scale for OT money and play him at OG. The Cardinals cannot afford to lose any offensive lineman. Besides, how are the Cardinals going to replace Davis? Even as a subpar OT, isn't he the best free agent OT on market? And they don't really have a shot at Joe Thomas.

Another thing, besides being the best OT on the market right now, Davis is probably the best OL on the Cardinals. Even if you have to overpay, I think it makes sense to keep him -- especially since the Cardinals aren't likely to spend all their money this year anyway.

 

[LHUCKS]

Another thing, besides being the best OT on the market right now, Davis is probably the best OL on the Cardinals. Even if you have to overpay, I think it makes sense to keep him -- especially since the Cardinals aren't likely to spend all their money this year anyway.

I'm giving the Cards the benefit of the doubt here. Leonard's going to get a HUGE contract because the market is so thin at LT, and will most definitely be overpaid. Overpaying for needs is not how you build a football team IMHO.

 

[Sidewinder16]

But I don't think Davis would be able to fill Dockery's shoes in that offense (pulling duties). So, in that regard, it makes little sense.

Yeah, not a good fit where pulling duties are aggressive. He's still very athletic for his size though...he'd be a monster inside.

From Jason La Canfora's blog:

Leonard Davis - Updated, Second Time

Looks like Leonard Davis could be in the house tonight when the Skins take their free agent entourage to the Wizards game. They want to bring him in; not sure if he is in Dallas first, but the Skins are pushing for him. Sounds like the Dockery thing is not panning out perhaps.

Just got off the phone with someone very close to the situation. Davis in indeed in another city as we speak - Dallas I believe- but I heard there is a "75-80 percent" chance he could be in Washington soon. The Redskins are indeed his next free agent visit destination, if in fact he makes another trip. I hear his agents are talking to 4-5 teams and fielding lots of calls, so it's possible he signs with another team while still on this first visit.

What do I know?

 

[HobbesAB]

Dockery just signed with Buffalo and Davis is on his way to WA from Dallas

 

[The Man With No Name]

Davis and Dallas were in talks for a long time. He wants a $12 million signing bonus, and Dallas won't give it.

 

[drifer]

But I don't think Davis would be able to fill Dockery's shoes in that offense (pulling duties). So, in that regard, it makes little sense.

Yeah, not a good fit where pulling duties are aggressive. He's still very athletic for his size though...he'd be a monster inside.

Dock was never known for his pulling ability in Washington. He is an aggressive in-line road grader style run blocker. Leonard Davis should fill his shoes well if he can make the switch to playing inside.edit: If he wants twelve million to sign he probably will not end up in Washington unless Buges and Gibbs fall in love with him. On the other hand it is less than what Dock got (16), he may be viewed as a bargain.

 

[fatness]

Leonard's going to be up late tonight.

Link

Posted at 10:46 PM ET, 03/ 2/2007

Leonard Davis Is On His Way

I am told the big man got on a plane, is on his way to Ashburn, and the Skins will have every chance to sign him. of course, the crazy contract Dockery got will up his price. He left Dallas and from what I gather there will be no more negotiations tonight (the Giants are also very interested as well as a few other teams).

 

[fatness]

This was posted earlier tonight, before the Clements signing by SF, on a Redskin message board. this guy has a contact with an AFC North team, was right about some things around this time last year, and has maintained a decent rep on that board. Take it for what it's worth.

March-2nd-2007, 07:10 PM

Here is what I know from my source in the AFC North:

(1) Nate Clements canceled the rest of his visits and is negotiating hard with the Niners. My source's team had a scheduled visit with him and he canceled it about 2 hours ago. The numbers he wants are on par with Champ's deal



(2) Leonard Davis has told people close to him that he wants to be in Dallas and is talikng to the Giants and Skins to help sweeten his deal in Dallas. My source's team had him scheduled for a visit and canceled it when they found out about it. He is largely viewed by most teams as really lazy and a huge waste of talent and a big contract will only add to his complacency.

(3) He also said that they were going to try to schedule a visit with Fletcher but when they found out he was visiting the Skins first his GM said, " I'm not getting into a crazy bidding war with those idiots". By the way, as you must know by now, that is how the Skins are viewed in most eyes around the league.

Link

 

[redman]

Signed with Dallas to play RG or RT, depending upon Columbo. He's getting more than Dockery or Steinbach.

The Dallas Cowboys are finalizing an agreement with free agent offensive lineman Leonard Davis, the second pick in the 2001 NFL draft who has played the last six seasons for the Arizona Cardinals.

Davis, 6-feet-6, 366 pounds, is expected to play either right tackle or right guard for the Cowboys, depending on the resolution of contract talks with current Cowboys right tackle Marc Columbo, an unrestricted free agent the Cowboys hope to re-sign.

Davis' contract is expected to exceed the free agent deals of Bills guard Derrick Dockery (7 years, $49 million) and Browns guard Eric Steinbach (7 years, $49.5 million).

Davis visted the Washington Redskins and was considering a visit to the New York Giants, but decided on the Cowboys due to a desire to stay close to his hometown of Wortham, Texas, just south of Dallas.

Davis was an All-America tackle at the University of Texas, and played his first three seasons at guard for the Cardinals before switching to tackle the last three seasons.

Senior writer Michael Smith covers the NFL for ESPN.com.

 

[HobbesAB]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2787446

The Dallas Cowboys are finalizing an agreement with free agent offensive lineman Leonard Davis, the second pick in the 2001 NFL draft who has played the last six seasons for the Arizona Cardinals.

Davis, 6-feet-6, 366 pounds, is expected to play either right tackle or right guard for the Cowboys, depending on the resolution of contract talks with current Cowboys right tackle Marc Columbo, an unrestricted free agent the Cowboys hope to re-sign.

Davis' contract is expected to exceed the free agent deals of Bills guard Derrick Dockery (7 years, $49 million) and Browns guard Eric Steinbach (7 years, $49.5 million).

Davis visted the Washington Redskins and was considering a visit to the New York Giants, but decided on the Cowboys due to a desire to stay close to his hometown of Wortham, Texas, just south of Dallas.

Davis was an All-America tackle at the University of Texas, and played his first three seasons at guard for the Cardinals before switching to tackle the last three seasons.

 

[HobbesAB]

missed this thread:

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...howtopic=306839

Please close this thread

 

[LHUCKS]

Signed with Dallas to play RG or RT, depending upon Columbo. He's getting more than Dockery or Steinbach.

The Dallas Cowboys are finalizing an agreement with free agent offensive lineman Leonard Davis, the second pick in the 2001 NFL draft who has played the last six seasons for the Arizona Cardinals.

Davis, 6-feet-6, 366 pounds, is expected to play either right tackle or right guard for the Cowboys, depending on the resolution of contract talks with current Cowboys right tackle Marc Columbo, an unrestricted free agent the Cowboys hope to re-sign.

Davis' contract is expected to exceed the free agent deals of Bills guard Derrick Dockery (7 years, $49 million) and Browns guard Eric Steinbach (7 years, $49.5 million).

Davis visted the Washington Redskins and was considering a visit to the New York Giants, but decided on the Cowboys due to a desire to stay close to his hometown of Wortham, Texas, just south of Dallas.

Davis was an All-America tackle at the University of Texas, and played his first three seasons at guard for the Cardinals before switching to tackle the last three seasons.

Senior writer Michael Smith covers the NFL for ESPN.com.

Makes sense all around. Cowboys reload on OL...uh oh.

 

[JohnnyU]

Signed with Dallas to play RG or RT, depending upon Columbo. He's getting more than Dockery or Steinbach.

The Dallas Cowboys are finalizing an agreement with free agent offensive lineman Leonard Davis, the second pick in the 2001 NFL draft who has played the last six seasons for the Arizona Cardinals.

Davis, 6-feet-6, 366 pounds, is expected to play either right tackle or right guard for the Cowboys, depending on the resolution of contract talks with current Cowboys right tackle Marc Columbo, an unrestricted free agent the Cowboys hope to re-sign.

Davis' contract is expected to exceed the free agent deals of Bills guard Derrick Dockery (7 years, $49 million) and Browns guard Eric Steinbach (7 years, $49.5 million).

Davis visted the Washington Redskins and was considering a visit to the New York Giants, but decided on the Cowboys due to a desire to stay close to his hometown of Wortham, Texas, just south of Dallas.

Davis was an All-America tackle at the University of Texas, and played his first three seasons at guard for the Cardinals before switching to tackle the last three seasons.

Senior writer Michael Smith covers the NFL for ESPN.com.

Makes sense all around. Cowboys reload on OL...uh oh.

Hasn't Davis underperformed compared to his initial hype?

 

[redman]

Signed with Dallas to play RG or RT, depending upon Columbo. He's getting more than Dockery or Steinbach.

The Dallas Cowboys are finalizing an agreement with free agent offensive lineman Leonard Davis, the second pick in the 2001 NFL draft who has played the last six seasons for the Arizona Cardinals.

Davis, 6-feet-6, 366 pounds, is expected to play either right tackle or right guard for the Cowboys, depending on the resolution of contract talks with current Cowboys right tackle Marc Columbo, an unrestricted free agent the Cowboys hope to re-sign.

Davis' contract is expected to exceed the free agent deals of Bills guard Derrick Dockery (7 years, $49 million) and Browns guard Eric Steinbach (7 years, $49.5 million).

Davis visted the Washington Redskins and was considering a visit to the New York Giants, but decided on the Cowboys due to a desire to stay close to his hometown of Wortham, Texas, just south of Dallas.

Davis was an All-America tackle at the University of Texas, and played his first three seasons at guard for the Cardinals before switching to tackle the last three seasons.

Senior writer Michael Smith covers the NFL for ESPN.com.

Makes sense all around. Cowboys reload on OL...uh oh.

Hasn't Davis underperformed compared to his initial hype?

Yes, very much so. He was drafted as a franchise caliber LT by the Cardinals, not exactly a team with an abundance of o-line talent, and ended up playing most of his time with them at G because he was very inconsistent. He's getting paid for potential here, which is always a dangerous prospect. If I'm paying that money I'd much rather pay it to a guy like Steinbach, Dielman or even Dockery than to Davis.

 

[cowboyz]

terrible signing if he's more than those other guys. i thought dallas was going to get him for a gurode type deal which was excessive already.

 

[redman]

terrible signing if he's more than those other guys. i thought dallas was going to get him for a gurode type deal which was excessive already.

Theoretically he could end up being an upgrade for Dallas' o-line, and even a significant one, which is obviously much needed. I just can't help but think of Aaron Gibson right now.

 

[Bankerguy]

Signed with Dallas to play RG or RT, depending upon Columbo. He's getting more than Dockery or Steinbach.

The Dallas Cowboys are finalizing an agreement with free agent offensive lineman Leonard Davis, the second pick in the 2001 NFL draft who has played the last six seasons for the Arizona Cardinals.

Davis, 6-feet-6, 366 pounds, is expected to play either right tackle or right guard for the Cowboys, depending on the resolution of contract talks with current Cowboys right tackle Marc Columbo, an unrestricted free agent the Cowboys hope to re-sign.

Davis' contract is expected to exceed the free agent deals of Bills guard Derrick Dockery (7 years, $49 million) and Browns guard Eric Steinbach (7 years, $49.5 million).

Davis visted the Washington Redskins and was considering a visit to the New York Giants, but decided on the Cowboys due to a desire to stay close to his hometown of Wortham, Texas, just south of Dallas.

Davis was an All-America tackle at the University of Texas, and played his first three seasons at guard for the Cardinals before switching to tackle the last three seasons.

Senior writer Michael Smith covers the NFL for ESPN.com.

Makes sense all around. Cowboys reload on OL...uh oh.

Hasn't Davis underperformed compared to his initial hype?

Yes, very much so. He was drafted as a franchise caliber LT by the Cardinals, not exactly a team with an abundance of o-line talent, and ended up playing most of his time with them at G because he was very inconsistent. He's getting paid for potential here, which is always a dangerous prospect. If I'm paying that money I'd much rather pay it to a guy like Steinbach, Dielman or even Dockery than to Davis.

He will play RG for Dallas, I am still holding out hope that they sign Columbo back at RT.

 

[redman]

He will play RG for Dallas, I am still holding out hope that they sign Columbo back at RT.

Well, guard is undoubtedly where he's going to be best used, but the problem then becomes that that's a hell of a lot of money to pay for a guard.

 

[Balco]

Signed with Dallas to play RG or RT, depending upon Columbo. He's getting more than Dockery or Steinbach.

The Dallas Cowboys are finalizing an agreement with free agent offensive lineman Leonard Davis, the second pick in the 2001 NFL draft who has played the last six seasons for the Arizona Cardinals.

Davis, 6-feet-6, 366 pounds, is expected to play either right tackle or right guard for the Cowboys, depending on the resolution of contract talks with current Cowboys right tackle Marc Columbo, an unrestricted free agent the Cowboys hope to re-sign.

Davis' contract is expected to exceed the free agent deals of Bills guard Derrick Dockery (7 years, $49 million) and Browns guard Eric Steinbach (7 years, $49.5 million).

Davis visted the Washington Redskins and was considering a visit to the New York Giants, but decided on the Cowboys due to a desire to stay close to his hometown of Wortham, Texas, just south of Dallas.

Davis was an All-America tackle at the University of Texas, and played his first three seasons at guard for the Cardinals before switching to tackle the last three seasons.

Senior writer Michael Smith covers the NFL for ESPN.com.

Makes sense all around. Cowboys reload on OL...uh oh.

Hasn't Davis underperformed compared to his initial hype?

Yes, very much so. He was drafted as a franchise caliber LT by the Cardinals, not exactly a team with an abundance of o-line talent, and ended up playing most of his time with them at G because he was very inconsistent. He's getting paid for potential here, which is always a dangerous prospect. If I'm paying that money I'd much rather pay it to a guy like Steinbach, Dielman or even Dockery than to Davis.

He will play RG for Dallas, I am still holding out hope that they sign Columbo back at RT.

If he plays guard, he will be a pro bowler next year, write it down. If he plays tackle, Romo better be ready to run for his life.

 

[LHUCKS]

Signed with Dallas to play RG or RT, depending upon Columbo. He's getting more than Dockery or Steinbach.

The Dallas Cowboys are finalizing an agreement with free agent offensive lineman Leonard Davis, the second pick in the 2001 NFL draft who has played the last six seasons for the Arizona Cardinals.

Davis, 6-feet-6, 366 pounds, is expected to play either right tackle or right guard for the Cowboys, depending on the resolution of contract talks with current Cowboys right tackle Marc Columbo, an unrestricted free agent the Cowboys hope to re-sign.

Davis' contract is expected to exceed the free agent deals of Bills guard Derrick Dockery (7 years, $49 million) and Browns guard Eric Steinbach (7 years, $49.5 million).

Davis visted the Washington Redskins and was considering a visit to the New York Giants, but decided on the Cowboys due to a desire to stay close to his hometown of Wortham, Texas, just south of Dallas.

Davis was an All-America tackle at the University of Texas, and played his first three seasons at guard for the Cardinals before switching to tackle the last three seasons.

Senior writer Michael Smith covers the NFL for ESPN.com.

Makes sense all around. Cowboys reload on OL...uh oh.

Hasn't Davis underperformed compared to his initial hype?

Yes, very much so. He was drafted as a franchise caliber LT by the Cardinals, not exactly a team with an abundance of o-line talent, and ended up playing most of his time with them at G because he was very inconsistent. He's getting paid for potential here, which is always a dangerous prospect. If I'm paying that money I'd much rather pay it to a guy like Steinbach, Dielman or even Dockery than to Davis.

He will play RG for Dallas, I am still holding out hope that they sign Columbo back at RT.

If he plays guard, he will be a pro bowler next year, write it down. If he plays tackle, Romo better be ready to run for his life.

RT is a bit different than LT...I don't think it's impossible for him to succeed at RT.that being said, I'd rather play him at guard and watch him go to a few ProBowls.

 

[redman]

If he plays guard, he will be a pro bowler next year, write it down.

That seems a little pessimistic, don't you think?