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Give me your 1.01 pick for PPR redraft, and make your case for that player in 3 bullet points. 

I assume the top 5 are (in no order) Gurley, Bell, Zeke, DJ, AB?  Which of those 5 has the best chance to deserve the 1.01 pick? 

Bonus Q: is there a dark horse player you’d take over those top 5 if you had the 1 pick? 

 
Le'Veon Bell:

  • 3830 yards from scrimmage over the past 2 seasons, most in the NFL (525 yards ahead of #2)
  • 87 receptions per 16 games over the past 4 seasons, slots in right between DeAndre Hopkins and AJ Green as the 12th most in the NFL (min 30 games)
  • Dude's real good
 
Le'Veon Bell:

  • 3830 yards from scrimmage over the past 2 seasons, most in the NFL (525 yards ahead of #2)
  • 87 receptions per 16 games over the past 4 seasons, slots in right between DeAndre Hopkins and AJ Green as the 12th most in the NFL (min 30 games)
  • Dude's real good
No concerns about Roethlisburger age/injuries? 

 
Fewer concerns about Roethlisberger than I have about Goff, Prescott, or Bradford. And Bell without Ben is still in that top tier.

 
Gurley.  

Sure, it could appear I’m biased.  But they just gave him a ton of money, he’s 24, the centerpiece of a high powered offense and he’s in camp.  Yes please.     

 
I like Elliott here. Bell seems like he is playing not to get hurt so he can get paid (when he actually shows up to camp). Elliott has a chip on his shoulder from last year and probably would have lead the league had it not been for the suspension. 

 
Le'Veon Bell:

  • 3830 yards from scrimmage over the past 2 seasons, most in the NFL (525 yards ahead of #2)
  • 87 receptions per 16 games over the past 4 seasons, slots in right between DeAndre Hopkins and AJ Green as the 12th most in the NFL (min 30 games)
  • Dude's real good
He also has weed and injury history. That risk pushes him down to #3 or #4.

 
I say Gurley as well.

  • Involved in a dynamic offense and his volume isn't game flow dependent, I know Zeke and DJ will likely have a ton of volume but I have some concerns about the overall effectiveness of the offenses (more so AZ than DAL).
  • Bell is also in a dynamic offense but Gurley had 63 less touches (carries + receptions) than Bell last year, isn't holding out and is a couple of years younger.
Any of those RBs would be fine though...while I love AB I can't consider him #1 overall because RBs go so quickly this year, while you can still get great receivers later in the draft.

 
Give me your 1.01 pick for PPR redraft, and make your case for that player in 3 bullet points. 

I assume the top 5 are (in no order) Gurley, Bell, Zeke, DJ, AB?  Which of those 5 has the best chance to deserve the 1.01 pick? 

Bonus Q: is there a dark horse player you’d take over those top 5 if you had the 1 pick? 
I think if you look at their ceilings, you can make a case for any of those 5 easily. They all have great upside. It's the downside that I have to factor in. I would rank them like this:

1. Gurley - I think his numbers will regress from last season, but he's the centerpiece of a great offense and doesn't leave the field. Even with a regression, he's a clear RB1 and appears to be the safest.

2. Elliott - The offense may not be great and there are character concerns. He's still the centerpiece of the offense and is a better receiver than given credit for.

3. Bell - Immense upside, but the holdout, injury history, prior suspensions, past workload, and some impact from a Big Ben injury factor combined is a big risk.

4. DJ - I mostly discount the injury history, but the offense really concerns me if Rosen takes over for an often-injured Bradford. The guy is a stud, but another factor is a new coaching staff that may not ride him like in the past. TBD. He certainly looked good on those 2 carries though.

5 Kamara - I don't like RBBC guys, but I think his regression will get offset by more volume (not that his role will change, but his usage was very low in the first quarter of last season).

6. Brown - He's a stud, pure and simple. Aside from some potential risk from a BIg Ben injury (not to mention some of his own this pre-season), I just could not pass up one of the above RBs for a WR because of RB supply and demand.

 
I like Elliott here. Bell seems like he is playing not to get hurt so he can get paid (when he actually shows up to camp). Elliott has a chip on his shoulder from last year and probably would have lead the league had it not been for the suspension. 
What are you basing the Bell assumption On? He played last year under the same terms. 

 
For me it is 

Bell, Gurley and Johnson all at 1. I think Johnson might hit 100 receptions this year from Bradford. Zeke is 4th because he just doesn't catch as many passes. I expect the other backs to catch at least 30 more passes than Zeke, so he has to have a combo of 5 more touchdowns or 300 more total yards to make that up. Can he? Sure,  but I wouldn't bet on it. 

 
If Ben gets hurt I think Bell stays the same. His efficiency will take a hit, but I believe his volume would increase. The Steelers don't care about over working him. 
That is actually one of my concerns about Bell. The Steelers clearly don't care about overworking him but I get the feeling that he is starting to care about being overworked.

Total speculation.

 
Bell and Zeke have the best offensive lines by a pretty wide margin so I love them.

I think, again total speculation, both of them want to push the bar on RB contracts above Gurley but I think Zeke has the better opportunity to do that because of his age.

If Zeke improves in the passing game...better to say if Dallas utilizes him more in the passing game, which I think they pretty much have to by default, then I think Zeke is in for a monster year.

Yeah I take Zeke #1 then Gurley but may go with Bell at #2 when I am on the clock.

 
That is actually one of my concerns about Bell. The Steelers clearly don't care about overworking him but I get the feeling that he is starting to care about being overworked.

Total speculation.
Could be, I guess I am more in the camp that it will hurt him next year, not this year. 

 
What are you basing the Bell assumption On? He played last year under the same terms. 
Not really. It was a pretty sure thing the Steelers would franchise him again this year. Now it’s a pretty sure thing he becomes a FA in 2019. He’s much better off being healthy for that.

 
Could be, I guess I am more in the camp that it will hurt him next year, not this year. 
I guess we have to see how the holdout plays out, if it's anything like last season and he comes in before week 1 then it's probably all good.  I still favor Zeke though.

 
I’ve wrestled with this myself. I believe it’s Gurley. 

• up & coming offense that added a field stretcher in Cooks. Note: I believe Cooks is overdrafted this year & won’t deliver on his ADP, but in relation to opening up the ground game he’s a legitimate deep threat  that defenses will have to account for. 

• the offense flows through Gurley, he’s a true 3-down back, and the coaching isn’t shy about going to Gurley 3 straight downs in the red zone.

• Bradford & that entire offense should be improved this year - that all bodes well for Gurley. Most expert projections have Gurley scoring 4-6 more TDs but Bell getting ~30 more receptions.  If the Rams offense takes another step forward, I’m not so sure Gurley doesn’t sniff 75 receptions, which narrows that gap significantly. 

I love me some DJ & I’m not concerned about his injury - broken bones mend & DJ is a stud. But there are Q’s surrounding that offense.

Zeke has a fantastic OL, but is the Dallas offense as a whole that good? I’m not entirely convinced after seeing them struggle to get things going. Volume alone should dictate production, but that’s a tough division to run against. 

Bell is my closest second to Gurley because of volume, track record & team. That said, I do worry about Big Ben going down with injury - they’ve been mounting over the years. Also the Steel Curtain is not what it once was - maybe the receptions go up for Bell as a result, or maybe they stay the same but he runs a bit less due to game flow. Add in division & cold weather, it’s a lot of little things. And as some have mentioned, the contract thing - some would argue he’ll play lights out in yet another contract year. Some have said maybe he plays to not get hurt so he can get a payday. What I know for sure is he has a lot of miles on that body for a 26 year old, as PIT has not been concerned with workload. Like I said - Bell is my close second, so these are all merely nits to pick Gurley over Bell. If I were picking 2nd, I’d need approximately 1.6 seconds of my 120 to select Bell.

If I picked 5th I’d have the hardest time, since it would likely be DJ vs AB. I’d probably still go DJ, but with an AB selection there’s very likely a very solid RB  coming back to me in a 12 team snake format. So it would be really tempting to take AB/RB 1-2.

 
I like Elliott here. Bell seems like he is playing not to get hurt so he can get paid (when he actually shows up to camp). Elliott has a chip on his shoulder from last year and probably would have lead the league had it not been for the suspension. 
How can a player play not to get hurt once they step on the field?

 
I have 1st pick in my 12 team 1/2 point PPR league, and I have been talking about taking Zeke at # 1 for some time now (in the other thread started by Doc Ock). But, as we get closer to the draft, I am starting to lean towards Gurley--primarily for the reasons already stated in this thread. He can lose 25% of his TDs, and still finish with 14-15. As much as I know Dallas will feed Zeke the rock (and they will), I am not sure the offense is going to be good enough to sustain long drives and turn them into TDs (as opposed to field goals). To me though, Bell is the clear third choice---given his hold-out, contract situation and overall wear and tear. 

 
Gurley for this 1.01 holder as well. I love all 5 picks and wouldn't begrudge anyone picking any of them but I currently rank them Gurley, Zeke, DJ, Bell, AB.

 
Gurley

his head coach doesn't even pay attention when his team is on defense

all his head coach thinks about is moving the ball and scoring points

his head coach likes to get him the ball as much as possible

 
To play devil's advocate though: Zeke went 16 of 18 last year when the Cowboys needed 1 yard to either score or keep a drive alive. Meanwhile, Gurley was 4th worst in the league, at 13 for 25. Zeke has averaged 25 yards receiving per game for his career. He averaged a league high 98 yards rushing per game last year with 9 TDs in 10 games. He has 25 TDs in 25 career games and has rushed for over 80 yards in 23 of 25 career games. Finally, Zeke has NEVER shown up on an injury report--either at Ohio State or in the NFL. Oh yeah, and he has a gigantic chip on his shoulder from last year's debacle. 

 
To play devil's advocate though: Zeke went 16 of 18 last year when the Cowboys needed 1 yard to either score or keep a drive alive. Meanwhile, Gurley was 4th worst in the league, at 13 for 25. Zeke has averaged 25 yards receiving per game for his career. He averaged a league high 98 yards rushing per game last year with 9 TDs in 10 games. He has 25 TDs in 25 career games and has rushed for over 80 yards in 23 of 25 career games. Finally, Zeke has NEVER shown up on an injury report--either at Ohio State or in the NFL. Oh yeah, and he has a gigantic chip on his shoulder from last year's debacle. 
 Solid contribution, the only nit I would pick does the Gurley’s sample size is far too small to draw any conclusions -  especially considering there’s only really one season of offense to go by. 

 But you definitely make some interesting points in support of Elliot. 

 
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