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I thought he'd stick for 4-5 years. I feel really bad for the guys he's recruited. If he was going to tease every offseason though, then good bye. I just thought after last year and what he said at the time, that he was serious about psu. Hopefully the next guy wants to coach college and always revered psu.

 
I enjoyed the offense this past year and really looked forward to the top Te recruits and Hackenburg. I hope they stay and the next coach knows how to use them. I just can't believe he didn't stick around to get these kids in a bowl.

 
You can't be mad at a guy for going to the NFL. Get real. Almost any successful college coach at any program would jump at that.

That said, seems like it's a ####ty situation to deal with as everybody tries to hang onto the past there. Probably gonna get a sucky hire.

 
You can't be mad at a guy for going to the NFL. Get real. Almost any successful college coach at any program would jump at that.

That said, seems like it's a ####ty situation to deal with as everybody tries to hang onto the past there. Probably gonna get a sucky hire.
I agree. I'm grateful for the things he's done, but I can't blame him for leaving. Jon Gruden seems to say he'd listen to any offer. I think they should at least try to tempt him.

 
You can't be mad at a guy for going to the NFL. Get real. Almost any successful college coach at any program would jump at that.

That said, seems like it's a ####ty situation to deal with as everybody tries to hang onto the past there. Probably gonna get a sucky hire.
After only 2 years? Who is hanging into the past? Fans/alum of been hugely supportive.

 
You can't be mad at a guy for going to the NFL. Get real. Almost any successful college coach at any program would jump at that.

That said, seems like it's a ####ty situation to deal with as everybody tries to hang onto the past there. Probably gonna get a sucky hire.
I dunno what PSU fan you're talking to, but I'm OK he left. He wanted a pro job and got one in a pretty good situation that gives him a better than average chance to succeed. :shrug:

Am I upset that he left? Eh, a little. I would like to have seen what he could do with Hackenburg these next couple of years.

 
You can't be mad at a guy for going to the NFL. Get real. Almost any successful college coach at any program would jump at that.

That said, seems like it's a ####ty situation to deal with as everybody tries to hang onto the past there. Probably gonna get a sucky hire.
I agree. I'm grateful for the things he's done, but I can't blame him for leaving. Jon Gruden seems to say he'd listen to any offer. I think they should at least try to tempt him.
For some odd reason, I think he'd work out OK in Happy Valley. I also teeter on the brink of insanity sometimes. :shrug:

 
Isn't Penn State something like the 3rd or 5th biggest college football program in terms of revenue?

Is there any reason they can't get almost whoever they want?

 
Isn't Penn State something like the 3rd or 5th biggest college football program in terms of revenue?

Is there any reason they can't get almost whoever they want?
Yea because they have massive restrictions for 2 more years. And the ones that they are under now are going to really hurt. So they won't be competing on a level playing field for 4 years. That's going to really hurt.

Having said that - if the QB stays, they should at least be decent.

 
I dont understand why PSU lowered his buyout from $20M to under $6.5M. Its almost like they were fine with him leaving after just a couple years and want someone else.

As long as they hire someone who can recruit, I wont be too salty about O'Brien leaving. Really Im just mostly concerned with how this affects the oncoming recruiting class. It seems to be considered a Top 15-20 recruiting class, and you know some players will go elsewhere now, hopefully many dont though and especially the best recruits. I dont expect many, if any, current players to transfer unless they just totally dont see eye to eye with the next coach.

 
Blackshoe Diaries reviews that potential candidates.

Greg SchianoCurrently: fired from the Tampa Bay Bucs

Age: 47

Hometown: Wyckoff, NJ

Coaching Profile: he went to Bucknell. Do I have to do this? Alright - let's get this over with. :lol:

Joe Paterno gave Schiano his break as a GA in 1990, and then Schiano coached DBs and learned defense under Jerry Sandusky from 1990 - 1995. Chicago Bears and Dave Wannstedt in 1996 - 1998, where he met Butch Davis. Followed Davis to Miami (FL), where Davis made him his DC. He looked smart in Miami because he had 10 1st round draft picks on defense, including Ed Reed, thanks to an almost un-disturbed 40 years of cheating and illegal benefits, such as hookers and blow, by Miami, 2 Live Crew, and its ponzi scheme boosters. Schiano took the Rutgers job in 2001, and over the next 11 years, he didn't fail miserably, which many heralded as noteworthy, because Rutgers. In 2012 he jumped to the NFL, where he embarrassed himself on the sidelines, and outed himself as a complete jackass off the field.

Penn Stater: No, not really.

Fund Raising / Charisma / Representative: 0/10. Everyone with a brain realizes he is toxic.

Recruiter: 3/10. Three, because kids gotta go to college somewhere.

Ability to Assemble a Staff: 3/10, because unemployed coaches gotta coach somewhere.

:lmao:

 
You can't be mad at a guy for going to the NFL. Get real. Almost any successful college coach at any program would jump at that.

That said, seems like it's a ####ty situation to deal with as everybody tries to hang onto the past there. Probably gonna get a sucky hire.
I agree. I'm grateful for the things he's done, but I can't blame him for leaving. Jon Gruden seems to say he'd listen to any offer. I think they should at least try to tempt him.
Id love Gruden, might even be my first choice that is a coach PSU could reasonably get, but I dont see him going to PSU with all the scholarship restrictions and bowl ban still in place.

 
You can't be mad at a guy for going to the NFL. Get real. Almost any successful college coach at any program would jump at that.

That said, seems like it's a ####ty situation to deal with as everybody tries to hang onto the past there. Probably gonna get a sucky hire.
I agree. I'm grateful for the things he's done, but I can't blame him for leaving. Jon Gruden seems to say he'd listen to any offer. I think they should at least try to tempt him.
Id love Gruden, might even be my first choice that is a coach PSU could reasonably get, but I dont see him going to PSU with all the scholarship restrictions and bowl ban still in place.
I agree that I'd love Gruden, but with Gruden being a top choice for most of the pro and college jobs for the last few years, I don't know why the PSU job in the current situation would be the one to lure him from the booth.

 
Jon Gruden? come on
I didn't say it would happen. In fact, I'd put the chances at or below .000001%. But the guy has continually thrown his own name out there for almost every vacancy that happens. What would it hurt to call him? He says no? Great. Then move on to the next candidate. But why not try? :shrug:

 
You can't be mad at a guy for going to the NFL. Get real. Almost any successful college coach at any program would jump at that.

That said, seems like it's a ####ty situation to deal with as everybody tries to hang onto the past there. Probably gonna get a sucky hire.
I agree. I'm grateful for the things he's done, but I can't blame him for leaving. Jon Gruden seems to say he'd listen to any offer. I think they should at least try to tempt him.
Id love Gruden, might even be my first choice that is a coach PSU could reasonably get, but I dont see him going to PSU with all the scholarship restrictions and bowl ban still in place.
I agree that I'd love Gruden, but with Gruden being a top choice for most of the pro and college jobs for the last few years, I don't know why the PSU job in the current situation would be the one to lure him from the booth.
I doubt it would, TBH. I think his ability to talk football with recruits might make him a good recruiter - heck, who wouldn't want to meet & greet with a Super Bowl winning coach? Conversely, I can't see him schlepping through the WPIAL stuffing himself on pierogies trying to recruit.

 
You can't be mad at a guy for going to the NFL. Get real. Almost any successful college coach at any program would jump at that.

That said, seems like it's a ####ty situation to deal with as everybody tries to hang onto the past there. Probably gonna get a sucky hire.
I agree. I'm grateful for the things he's done, but I can't blame him for leaving. Jon Gruden seems to say he'd listen to any offer. I think they should at least try to tempt him.
Id love Gruden, might even be my first choice that is a coach PSU could reasonably get, but I dont see him going to PSU with all the scholarship restrictions and bowl ban still in place.
I agree that I'd love Gruden, but with Gruden being a top choice for most of the pro and college jobs for the last few years, I don't know why the PSU job in the current situation would be the one to lure him from the booth.
I've heard him say he'd love to coach at a lot of open positions. But I have yet to hear anyone make him an offer. I don't know if he's been a top choice so much as saying he's wanted spots. The one's I remember were the Eagles and the Texas job. Neither of them even interviewed him. :shrug:

 
Jon Gruden? come on
I didn't say it would happen. In fact, I'd put the chances at or below .000001%. But the guy has continually thrown his own name out there for almost every vacancy that happens. What would it hurt to call him? He says no? Great. Then move on to the next candidate. But why not try? :shrug:
there's no chance he takes that job. not sure it's worth the cost of the phone call.

 
I think they need somebody who wants to stay coaching in college. Not a young guy looking for a spring board. I don't think Gruden or Cowher are on the list (although I'd love Cowher to come back to PA).

 
Jon Gruden? come on
I didn't say it would happen. In fact, I'd put the chances at or below .000001%. But the guy has continually thrown his own name out there for almost every vacancy that happens. What would it hurt to call him? He says no? Great. Then move on to the next candidate. But why not try? :shrug:
there's no chance he takes that job. not sure it's worth the cost of the phone call.
Sorry. Didn't realize you were that well versed on the goings on of Penn State football and Jon Gruden's job choices. I'll just sit back and listen now. :thumbup:

 
Jon Gruden? come on
I didn't say it would happen. In fact, I'd put the chances at or below .000001%. But the guy has continually thrown his own name out there for almost every vacancy that happens. What would it hurt to call him? He says no? Great. Then move on to the next candidate. But why not try? :shrug:
there's no chance he takes that job. not sure it's worth the cost of the phone call.
Sorry. Didn't realize you were that well versed on the goings on of Penn State football and Jon Gruden's job choices. I'll just sit back and listen now. :thumbup:
maybe you guys can hire Barack Obama to be the new AD in a few years too! :thumbup:

 
Jon Gruden? come on
I didn't say it would happen. In fact, I'd put the chances at or below .000001%. But the guy has continually thrown his own name out there for almost every vacancy that happens. What would it hurt to call him? He says no? Great. Then move on to the next candidate. But why not try? :shrug:
there's no chance he takes that job. not sure it's worth the cost of the phone call.
Sorry. Didn't realize you were that well versed on the goings on of Penn State football and Jon Gruden's job choices. I'll just sit back and listen now. :thumbup:
maybe you guys can hire Barack Obama to be the new AD in a few years too! :thumbup:
OK

 
You can't be mad at a guy for going to the NFL. Get real. Almost any successful college coach at any program would jump at that.

That said, seems like it's a ####ty situation to deal with as everybody tries to hang onto the past there. Probably gonna get a sucky hire.
I agree. I'm grateful for the things he's done, but I can't blame him for leaving. Jon Gruden seems to say he'd listen to any offer. I think they should at least try to tempt him.
Id love Gruden, might even be my first choice that is a coach PSU could reasonably get, but I dont see him going to PSU with all the scholarship restrictions and bowl ban still in place.
I agree that I'd love Gruden, but with Gruden being a top choice for most of the pro and college jobs for the last few years, I don't know why the PSU job in the current situation would be the one to lure him from the booth.
Agreed.

 
I don't think Gruden wants to coach, but if he did, I can't imagine the job he leaves the booth for would be an NCAA team dealing with crippling sanctions in the wake of a horrible scandal. He can have his pick of jobs at the NFL or NCAA level, but I don't think he's going anywhere.

 
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Jon Gruden? come on
I didn't say it would happen. In fact, I'd put the chances at or below .000001%. But the guy has continually thrown his own name out there for almost every vacancy that happens. What would it hurt to call him? He says no? Great. Then move on to the next candidate. But why not try? :shrug:
there's no chance he takes that job. not sure it's worth the cost of the phone call.
Sorry. Didn't realize you were that well versed on the goings on of Penn State football and Jon Gruden's job choices. I'll just sit back and listen now. :thumbup:
maybe you guys can hire Barack Obama to be the new AD in a few years too! :thumbup:
He does wear a lot of white shirt and blue tie combos.

 
Why wouldn't PSU be the most desirable job in the country right now? OB went from "the guy who yelled at Brady on the sidelines" to the hottest NFL coaching commodity in just 2 (good, not great) years. The guy really had no previous coaching achievements to hang his hat on. Kids still want to play there and the fanbase is dying to support anyone with a pulse.

I cant see Gruden coming back to coach college, but not sure why anyone else wouldnt jump at the opportunity. As long as its not Schiano, Im good with whoever.

 
I don't think Gruden wants to coach, but if he did, I can't imagine the job he leaves the booth for would be an NCAA team dealing with crippling sanctions in the wake of a horrible scandal.
Might want to update your notebook; they've pretty much got them all back. IIRC they'll be short 5 for the next two years.

 
You can't be mad at a guy for going to the NFL. Get real. Almost any successful college coach at any program would jump at that.

That said, seems like it's a ####ty situation to deal with as everybody tries to hang onto the past there. Probably gonna get a sucky hire.
I agree. I'm grateful for the things he's done, but I can't blame him for leaving. Jon Gruden seems to say he'd listen to any offer. I think they should at least try to tempt him.
Does Gruden have a connection to Penn State? The guy could have almost-literally any open job in football, which includes a handful of NFL jobs and bigger-name CFB jobs. What does Penn State have that those others don't?

 
I don't think Gruden wants to coach, but if he did, I can't imagine the job he leaves the booth for would be an NCAA team dealing with crippling sanctions in the wake of a horrible scandal.
Might want to update your notebook; they've pretty much got them all back. IIRC they'll be short 5 for the next two years.
I'm just going by what the PSU guys are saying in this thread in the past hour. Are their notebooks wrong?

 
Why wouldn't PSU be the most desirable job in the country right now? OB went from "the guy who yelled at Brady on the sidelines" to the hottest NFL coaching commodity in just 2 (good, not great) years. The guy really had no previous coaching achievements to hang his hat on. Kids still want to play there and the fanbase is dying to support anyone with a pulse.
Good point, although like Leeroy said I hope the guy they bring in is one who is likely to stick around for awhile, not someone who's going to be the next BOB and jump ship when he gets a decent offer.

 
Why wouldn't PSU be the most desirable job in the country right now? OB went from "the guy who yelled at Brady on the sidelines" to the hottest NFL coaching commodity in just 2 (good, not great) years. The guy really had no previous coaching achievements to hang his hat on. Kids still want to play there and the fanbase is dying to support anyone with a pulse.

I cant see Gruden coming back to coach college, but not sure why anyone else wouldnt jump at the opportunity. As long as its not Schiano, Im good with whoever.
Next couple years could be pretty tough as the sanctions and depth issues take shape. If you're a strong enough name to be on this list, you're a strong enough name to be considered for the Texas job now as well as possibly Florida or Michigan a year from now, not to mention the NFL. To leave a comfortable spot, and to pass on those potential opportunities, to take a job where you might struggle to go .500 over the next couple seasons might not be very desirable.

 
Yea because they have massive restrictions for 2 more years. And the ones that they are under now are going to really hurt. So they won't be competing on a level playing field for 4 years. That's going to really hurt.
Servo, thoughts on this?

 
Yea because they have massive restrictions for 2 more years. And the ones that they are under now are going to really hurt. So they won't be competing on a level playing field for 4 years. That's going to really hurt.
Servo, thoughts on this?
And they are moving into a division with Ohio State, Michigan State, and Michigan.

I'd be quite surprised if they can compete for a division crown within the next 4 years. What established coach wants to take that on?

 
I don't think Gruden wants to coach, but if he did, I can't imagine the job he leaves the booth for would be an NCAA team dealing with crippling sanctions in the wake of a horrible scandal.
Might want to update your notebook; they've pretty much got them all back. IIRC they'll be short 5 for the next two years.
They have those back for upcoming recruiting classes, but they've taken smaller classes than normal over past seasons due to those sanctions, and it takes time for that to impact the two deep. Take your usual injuries and a roster short a bunch of scholarships and you start having to count on walk-ons pretty quickly.

 
You can't be mad at a guy for going to the NFL. Get real. Almost any successful college coach at any program would jump at that.

That said, seems like it's a ####ty situation to deal with as everybody tries to hang onto the past there. Probably gonna get a sucky hire.
I agree. I'm grateful for the things he's done, but I can't blame him for leaving. Jon Gruden seems to say he'd listen to any offer. I think they should at least try to tempt him.
Id love Gruden, might even be my first choice that is a coach PSU could reasonably get, but I dont see him going to PSU with all the scholarship restrictions and bowl ban still in place.
I agree that I'd love Gruden, but with Gruden being a top choice for most of the pro and college jobs for the last few years, I don't know why the PSU job in the current situation would be the one to lure him from the booth.
I've heard him say he'd love to coach at a lot of open positions. But I have yet to hear anyone make him an offer. I don't know if he's been a top choice so much as saying he's wanted spots. The one's I remember were the Eagles and the Texas job. Neither of them even interviewed him. :shrug:
Link to Gruden begging to be interviewed by anyone?

 

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