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Lets Talk Team Defenses (1 Viewer)
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Banger
Footballguy
I actually like the Chargers. They are cheap and should get a ton of sacks. I like Seattle/Ravens too but they will probably be off the board before I'd grab 'em.
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Pittsburgh United
Footballguy
Giants!
Banger
Footballguy
I thought that last year but they really disappointed. They've since lost Law and Abraham so I'm not too sure about them. They will be cheap, that's for sure.
Giants have an ADP of 6th Defense. Not much of a surprise there, unless you expect them to be #1.
Law isnt much of a loss at this point. They are strong at safety. Vilma and co. are strong at linebacker. Ellis is great up front. It could all come together with Mangini. The only question is how getting shut out on offense will affect their defense.
Banger
Footballguy
it'll keep em on the field all game. The TOP will kill them without a decent running game and questionable passing game.
The Seattle Seahawks. They were very good last year. Everyone returns. They get SS Kenny Hamlin back from injury. They add stud LB Julian Pederson, rookies CB Jennings and DE Tapp, and DT Russel Davis. This is a young defense that will only get better. They have an easy schedule. They have an offense that can stay on the field. I predict they finish in the top 2 or 3 in team defense.
Banger
Footballguy
totally agree for the same reasons.
thecardiackid
Footballguy
There's a lot of talk about how Parcells fianlly has the players he needs for his "ideal" D. And DAL is middle of the pack now. If I didn't get TB in the 13th, that's where I was going FWIW.
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LawFitz
Footballguy
Iggles.
They're stacked at DLine. The LBs and DBs are good to very good. And their D Coordinator is a stud who's been with the team for years now.
And they play in the NFC East with three other good defenses. I expect a lot of low scoring games in that division this year.
Lastly, they seem to be forgotton in a lot of drafts, so you can get them really late this year.
They're stacked at DLine. The LBs and DBs are good to very good. And their D Coordinator is a stud who's been with the team for years now.
And they play in the NFC East with three other good defenses. I expect a lot of low scoring games in that division this year.
Lastly, they seem to be forgotton in a lot of drafts, so you can get them really late this year.
piston pete griffin
Footballguy
What Parcells needs for his ideal D isn't in Dallas but in New England.
gocats
Footballguy
Oh and both have an excellent playoff schedule
BoltBacker
Footballguy
Completely agree.I hate the topic of team defenses but seems to me PHI is really flying under the radar this year. They have a proven system for teamD scoring in place and people are making a mistake if they think the PHI defense is poor as it played last season. The CB's are healthy again. The D-line is poised for a big year with the additions of Howard and Bunkley(signed late but has been great by all reports). Dawkins is resigned and happy. The only real question marks are at LB and even there it's a solid if not spectacular unit with a lot of depth. Trotter's even talking about defensive MVP which is a longshot imo but it shows he's pretty confident in his situation.
Had 1 draft so far (of 3) and went with Chase Stuart's excellent Def By committee.
Won't post sub content here but I play matchups all year anyway and Chase made it easy for me.
Used 2 VERY LATE picks to secure his top tandem and could always switch gears if it doesn't work out. At almost no cost.
Only downside is burning that second roster spot. But by week 4 I usually have to use it anyway.
Give it a look and free up your time for other analysis.
Won't post sub content here but I play matchups all year anyway and Chase made it easy for me.
Used 2 VERY LATE picks to secure his top tandem and could always switch gears if it doesn't work out. At almost no cost.
Only downside is burning that second roster spot. But by week 4 I usually have to use it anyway.
Give it a look and free up your time for other analysis.
ellisonb11
Footballguy
jags are a very solid defense, and surprisingly i still see them go pretty late in drafts.
Last year they had a great season without their star safety donovan darius, and also struggled with a weak 2nd corner in kenny wright. now they have upgraded with brian williams.
Last year they had a great season without their star safety donovan darius, and also struggled with a weak 2nd corner in kenny wright. now they have upgraded with brian williams.
ScottNorwood
Footballcutie
The best defense is a good offense. Think about it.
The Kansas Comet
Footballguy
Plus, they're happier with their secondary depth, having drafted Cromartie and added McCree as a safety, and pass defense was their biggest problem last season. And two games against Aaron Brooks won't hurt either. The loss of Sproles will hurt the return game, though.
GOroute
Footballguy
the most important thing to take note of in this thread is that there are many good defenses so you should not waste an early pick on a de as not only are they plentiful, but who knows which de will be good. unless of course you think 1 team is far superior to all the others. and that aint the case this year.
Banger
Footballguy
Definitely agree here. In my mind there are the Bears and everyone else but last year I would have said there were the Ravens and everyone else and that didn't turn out so well. I think the edge in defenses this year won't be the one defense you grab but the pair and how you mix and match them.
ImTheScientist
Footballguy
buckeye35
Footballguy
I like Buffalo. They were the #1 D in 2004. Spikes is back this year, which should make a great deal of difference for the Bills. Their linebacking corps looks pretty much unchanged since '04. The line lost Sam Adams, but gained Larry Tripplett, who should help. Plus they got a few guys in the draft, including John McCargo in the 1st round. They have 2 DBs remaining from '04 (Clements & Vincent), plus they've added some free agents and 2 studs from Ohio State 
in the draft. Also in their favor, #### Jauron has coached high-ranking fantasy D's before. You should be able to grab them late -- their ADP looks to be the 18th D off the board, in the low 200's overall. I think they could represent some serious value, especially when you'll probably be able to grab them at the end of your draft.
in the draft. Also in their favor, #### Jauron has coached high-ranking fantasy D's before. You should be able to grab them late -- their ADP looks to be the 18th D off the board, in the low 200's overall. I think they could represent some serious value, especially when you'll probably be able to grab them at the end of your draft.
thecardiackid
Footballguy
DUDE, that avitar is DISTURBING!!!
Couple of comments:
Jets - they were highly touted last year but didn't deliver. Yes, their offense wasn't great, but their defense was so bad against the run, teams didn't have to throw against them (3rd lowest # of passes attempted against in the league). On the plus side, they don't have a lot of tough games (quick glance = 5 or 6 games against good offenses), but the same could be said about last year and they were terrible. Stay away.
Nobody talked about the Colts who have the Dungy-D going and are coupled with an offense that makes opposing offenses gamble. You won't get good yardage/PA fantasy points, but Ints & Sacks should make up for it (like Seattle). Note - the colts will "surprise" from a fantasy perspective, but not from an NFL perspective.
Looking at the Yahoo projections (easily & freely available) and at the teams out of the top 15, the teams that stick out for me that might be values are:
New England - when Bruschi came back their defense was WAY better (from averaging 29 points allowed without to 15 with). He'll be around all year this year hopefully.
Buffalo - As mentioned, this is a solid unit, but they need a QB that can keep their offense on the field to be good enough for a top-10 finish
Det/Ari - both young defenses with potentially big offenses, and could surprise like Cinci did last year.
San Diego - agree with the above posters.
Jets - they were highly touted last year but didn't deliver. Yes, their offense wasn't great, but their defense was so bad against the run, teams didn't have to throw against them (3rd lowest # of passes attempted against in the league). On the plus side, they don't have a lot of tough games (quick glance = 5 or 6 games against good offenses), but the same could be said about last year and they were terrible. Stay away.
Nobody talked about the Colts who have the Dungy-D going and are coupled with an offense that makes opposing offenses gamble. You won't get good yardage/PA fantasy points, but Ints & Sacks should make up for it (like Seattle). Note - the colts will "surprise" from a fantasy perspective, but not from an NFL perspective.
Looking at the Yahoo projections (easily & freely available) and at the teams out of the top 15, the teams that stick out for me that might be values are:
New England - when Bruschi came back their defense was WAY better (from averaging 29 points allowed without to 15 with). He'll be around all year this year hopefully.
Buffalo - As mentioned, this is a solid unit, but they need a QB that can keep their offense on the field to be good enough for a top-10 finish
Det/Ari - both young defenses with potentially big offenses, and could surprise like Cinci did last year.
San Diego - agree with the above posters.
chris1969
Footballguy
The Browns, particularly if Points allowed is a big deal in your league.
I can't take credit for finding this combo. I read it here somewhere. If you are willing to take 2 D's. MIA and NE are tough to pass up. MIA may be a bit higher pick but NE is a cheap take this year. Here is there combined schedule:
Week
1 BUF @ NE
2 BUF @ MIA or NE @ NYJ
3 TEN @ MIA
4 MIA @ HOU
5 NE @ MIA
6 MIA @ NYJ
7 GB @ MIA or NE @ BUF
8 NE @ MIN
9 MIA @ CHI
10 NYJ @ NE
11 MIN @ MIA or NE @ GB
12 MIA @ DET or CHI @ NE
13 JAC @ MIA or DET @ NE
14 NE @ MIA
15 MIA @ BUF
16 NJY @ MIA
So between the 2 you have BUFx4/3, NYJx3/4, CHIx2, MINx2, DET, TEN, HOU and then play each other twice. Not to mention playoff weeks 15/16 are very nice!
Week
1 BUF @ NE
2 BUF @ MIA or NE @ NYJ
3 TEN @ MIA
4 MIA @ HOU
5 NE @ MIA
6 MIA @ NYJ
7 GB @ MIA or NE @ BUF
8 NE @ MIN
9 MIA @ CHI
10 NYJ @ NE
11 MIN @ MIA or NE @ GB
12 MIA @ DET or CHI @ NE
13 JAC @ MIA or DET @ NE
14 NE @ MIA
15 MIA @ BUF
16 NJY @ MIA
So between the 2 you have BUFx4/3, NYJx3/4, CHIx2, MINx2, DET, TEN, HOU and then play each other twice. Not to mention playoff weeks 15/16 are very nice!
BoltBacker
Footballguy
I think the reason IND hasn't been mentioned is many people worry they are going to get into too many shoot-outs this season and won't have the running attack they've had in the past to keep the defense off the field. I'm not sold on either RB at this point and with Mungro lost for the season there goes their short yardage back and some depth.It's the oppisite argument you are using for being down on BUF's defense. Say what you want about the BUF defense but they'll have to grind games out on the ground because of their QB's. A lot depends if you are a McGahee believer or not. I am this year and think BUF's defense will benefeit.
BoltBacker
Footballguy
BB is a great coach and they seem to have a great DL on paper but their DB's are still a big "?" and if they are forced to start Seau in week #1 it speaks volumes about the state of their LB corp.
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Insoxicated
I'm thinking.
Statorama
Footballguy
Is that better than maui wowie?
WOW, I guess I missed that. That's about as good as it gets.
I'm not saying they are the best D's out there. But that schedule, for the picks it would cost you, is hard to beat.
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