Lil help to win a bet (1 Viewer)

[tuffnutt]

I've been in an agrument all moring with a friend that Closers dont have near the impact on a teams winning percentage as many think. Stats show that if you have a 3run lead going into the 9th you win 90+% of the time no matter who pitches the ninth and 80+% of the time with a 1 run lead, historically.... What i need is this:

I need the winning % of the Cubs with a lead in the ninth and winning percentage of the Pirates with a lead in the ninth... I think that they will be very similar dispite one finishing 1st in the Division and one finishing last,

Can anyone please help direct me to find such stats???

Thank you

 

[Michael Brown]

I don't have the stats, and I don't know if you're looking to get into a debate about it...but having a true "closer" and a lockdown one at that, does change how the game is played prior to him coming in.

Mariano Rivera's true worth isn't simply that he gets the job done in the 9th. It's that he shortens the game so that the manager needs to only worry about 8 innings. So if you have a good enough setup man and a decent middle guy, you don't think twice about pulling the starter after 6 IP when he's tired. On some teams without a dominant closer, the starter might get pushed another 2 innings, another inning, another batter too long, and it costs the team a game.

Just my 2 cents.

 

[cheese]

I've been in an agrument all moring with a friend that Closers dont have near the impact on a teams winning percentage as many think. Stats show that if you have a 3run lead going into the 9th you win 90+% of the time no matter who pitches the ninth and 80+% of the time with a 1 run lead, historically.... What i need is this:I need the winning % of the Cubs with a lead in the ninth and winning percentage of the Pirates with a lead in the ninth... I think that they will be very similar dispite one finishing 1st in the Division and one finishing last,Can anyone please help direct me to find such stats???Thank you

I don't know the overall stats, but I know the Reds are the extreme example of what you're talking about if you just want to look up their stats. They went something like 2 full season without losing a game they led in the 9th despite having David Weathers as the closer for all of 2007. I think the streak was well over 100 games when they lost it last year.

 

[=Smackdown=]

Don't have the stats for the Cubs but I do have the misery that was known as the Mets bullpen last year . . .

If all games had ended after six innings this season, the Mets would have finished the year 11 games ahead of the Phillies.

If all games had ended after seven innings, the Mets would have finished six games ahead of the Phillies.

And if all games had even been just eight innings long instead of nine, the Mets would have finished five games ahead of the Phillies.

They lost the divison by 3 games.