Lions acquire Northcutt (1 Viewer)

[Mimo]

http://freep.com/article/20090626/SPORTS01...ennis+Northcutt

The Detroit Lions have agreed to trade safety Gerald Alexander to Jacksonville for wide receiver Dennis Northcutt, two people familiar with the situation said today.

The Lions had a logjam at safety and a need at wide receiver. Northcutt, 31, caught 44 passes each of the past two years for the Jaguars, after seven seasons with the Browns.

Alexander, a second-round pick in 2007, started 16 games as a rookie. He suffered a fractured vetebra five games into last season but returned to the field this off-season.

 

[iSnitch]

Good trade.

 

[Yellow Line is Unoffcial]

http://freep.com/article/20090626/SPORTS01...ennis+Northcutt

The Detroit Lions have agreed to trade safety Gerald Alexander to Jacksonville for wide receiver Dennis Northcutt, two people familiar with the situation said today.

The Lions had a logjam at safety and a need at wide receiver. Northcutt, 31, caught 44 passes each of the past two years for the Jaguars, after seven seasons with the Browns.

Alexander, a second-round pick in 2007, started 16 games as a rookie. He suffered a fractured vetebra five games into last season but returned to the field this off-season.

Once again the Lions show why they are the laughingstock of the NFL. Everyone knows Northcutt was about to be waived. The Lions have the #1 waiver claim priority, yet the trade a guy they drafted in the second roud just two years ago.

 

[FunkyPlutos]

Good trade.

For which side?

 

[JohnnyU]

Time for you guys who drafted Derrick Williams to cut him.

 

[rowdywalker]

Doesnt Northcutt have a questionable past?

Good trade for the Jags they have a need at Safety and he is young with upside. Dont see much upside to Northcutt and I doubt he will be a part of the Lions nest push in to the playoffs when Stafford breaks out, Alexander may have been.

 

[identikit]

Doesnt Northcutt have a questionable past?

If so how do they justify cutting Jones after this?

Good trade for the Jags they have a need at Safety and he is young with upside. Dont see much upside to Northcutt and I doubt he will be a part of the Lions nest push in to the playoffs when Stafford breaks out, Alexander may have been.

Questionable talent, for sure...I know, I know...he looked good at the end of last year...

They were better off keeping Alexander imo....

 

[iSnitch]

Good trade.

For which side?

For the team that was about to cut Northcutt. But to be fair to the Lions, I don't know much about Alexander. If he wasn't in their plans then it's a good deal for both sides.

 

[treat88]

Alexander's neck would be a huge red flag in acquiring him and is likely the underlying reason, on field production aside, that the Lions moved him.

How much of Northcutt's salary they take on is another variable in the deal.

I don't really see a clear winner or loser in this deal.

 

[MrPhoenix]

Northcutt's value go up? (Pretty much has to, just a question of how much)

 

[hickbones]

http://freep.com/article/20090626/SPORTS01...ennis+Northcutt

The Detroit Lions have agreed to trade safety Gerald Alexander to Jacksonville for wide receiver Dennis Northcutt, two people familiar with the situation said today.

The Lions had a logjam at safety and a need at wide receiver. Northcutt, 31, caught 44 passes each of the past two years for the Jaguars, after seven seasons with the Browns.

Alexander, a second-round pick in 2007, started 16 games as a rookie. He suffered a fractured vetebra five games into last season but returned to the field this off-season.

Once again the Lions show why they are the laughingstock of the NFL. Everyone knows Northcutt was about to be waived. The Lions have the #1 waiver claim priority, yet the trade a guy they drafted in the second roud just two years ago.

I see your point, but there is value in being first in the waiver position. If I can make a trade for something I didn't want and it protects my waiver position, that is a positive.

 

[cstu]

CHAMPIONSHIP!

 

[Bri]

Once again the Lions show why they are the laughingstock of the NFL. Everyone knows Northcutt was about to be waived. The Lions have the #1 waiver claim priority, yet the trade a guy they drafted in the second roud just two years ago.

You have no idea that there weren't other teams offering something for Northcutt.New puppetmasters in Detroit. I'm thoroughly impressed by Schwarz. That's new england like signing a vet "no one wants" and if Bryant stinks, he'll produce well for them probably.

 

[NattyDread]

From the Jaguars perspective, do you get the sense that this says more about their confidence in

(a) Mike Walker

(b) Rookie trio of Thomas, Dillard, and Underwood

or both?

 

[ConstruxBoy]

Time for you guys who drafted Derrick Williams to cut him.

I wouldn't go that far, but certainly this was a move to fill a hole they thought he would fill.

 

[identikit]

From the Jaguars perspective, do you get the sense that this says more about their confidence in (a) Mike Walker(b) Rookie trio of Thomas, Dillard, and Underwoodor both?

all of the above imo

 

[VTjkru]

From the Jaguars perspective, do you get the sense that this says more about their confidence in (a) Mike Walker(b) Rookie trio of Thomas, Dillard, and Underwoodor both?

The drafting of Thomas, Dillard, and Underwood says something about the Jaguars confidence in Mike Walker. The trading of Northcutt says something about their confidence in the rookies.

 

[Yellow Line is Unoffcial]

http://freep.com/article/20090626/SPORTS01...ennis+Northcutt

The Detroit Lions have agreed to trade safety Gerald Alexander to Jacksonville for wide receiver Dennis Northcutt, two people familiar with the situation said today.

The Lions had a logjam at safety and a need at wide receiver. Northcutt, 31, caught 44 passes each of the past two years for the Jaguars, after seven seasons with the Browns.

Alexander, a second-round pick in 2007, started 16 games as a rookie. He suffered a fractured vetebra five games into last season but returned to the field this off-season.

Once again the Lions show why they are the laughingstock of the NFL. Everyone knows Northcutt was about to be waived. The Lions have the #1 waiver claim priority, yet the trade a guy they drafted in the second roud just two years ago.

I see your point, but there is value in being first in the waiver position. If I can make a trade for something I didn't want and it protects my waiver position, that is a positive.

This isn't CBS Fantasy Football. The Lions don't need to protect their waiver position. If the make a claim they still have the #! claim priority until the season starts and the they will use 2010 records.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

I actually think its a decent move by the Lions. After CJ and Bryant Johnson (who stinks) the cupboard is bare. Northcutt is a decent 3rd down possesion type slot wr. Nothing wrong with this move

 

[Sweet Love]

From the Jaguars perspective, do you get the sense that this says more about their confidence in (a) Mike Walker(b) Rookie trio of Thomas, Dillard, and Underwoodor both?

The drafting of Thomas, Dillard, and Underwood says something about the Jaguars confidence in Mike Walker. The trading of Northcutt says something about their confidence in the rookies.

Or the fact that you can just throw about anyone in a WR2 role for your team and end up with 44 receptions...opportunity alone gets you that. Why pay a Vets salary when you can get basically the same for much cheaper. If the rooks don't pan out, no loss.

 

[thecardiackid]

From the Jaguars perspective, do you get the sense that this says more about their confidence in

(a) Mike Walker

(b) Rookie trio of Thomas, Dillard, and Underwood

or both?

The drafting of Thomas, Dillard, and Underwood says something about the Jaguars confidence in Mike Walker. The trading of Northcutt says something about their confidence in the rookies.

Or the fact that you can just throw about anyone in a WR2 role for your team and end up with 44 receptions...opportunity alone gets you that. Why pay a Vets salary when you can get basically the same for much cheaper. If the rooks don't pan out, no loss.

If they didn't bring in some more talent @ WR, and they continue to struggle, DET will have 16 chances to prove that wrong.

Worst case it motivates BJ (and Curry?) and provides some veteran leadership to that group. Calvin could use a lot more help to take at least some of the defense's attention and I'm sure they want to do everything possible to help out when they decide to toss Stafford in.

I'm not saying Northcutt is *the missing piece* here, but he has proven to be a decent NFL WR, and if they had the depth on D to cover it - why not? I don't know the contract $$$ details, but I doubt he's a significant cap hit.

 

[Bri]

Or the fact that you can just throw about anyone in a WR2 role for your team and end up with 44 receptions...opportunity alone gets you that.

If you add "decent" to your sentence I'd agree somewhat. We're talking about rookies being key here. A rookie getting 44 catches would be very good for a rook.The Jags evaluation of WRs has been terrible.One (part time) starter went to Miami and didn't do squat. Reggie is out of the league wishing a team grabs him. Matt still doesn't have a job. Mike Walker who has been touted by the organization over and over, hasn't done squat. How about signing that bust from Minny? Porter was nothing of the big free agent signee he should have been.The Jags have done nothing to show that we(FFers) should trust their evaluation of WRs. I can go on and on here, this topic (not you) burns me up. They flat out stink with WRs.

 

[Balco]

http://freep.com/article/20090626/SPORTS01...ennis+Northcutt

The Detroit Lions have agreed to trade safety Gerald Alexander to Jacksonville for wide receiver Dennis Northcutt, two people familiar with the situation said today.

The Lions had a logjam at safety and a need at wide receiver. Northcutt, 31, caught 44 passes each of the past two years for the Jaguars, after seven seasons with the Browns.

Alexander, a second-round pick in 2007, started 16 games as a rookie. He suffered a fractured vetebra five games into last season but returned to the field this off-season.

Once again the Lions show why they are the laughingstock of the NFL. Everyone knows Northcutt was about to be waived. The Lions have the #1 waiver claim priority, yet the trade a guy they drafted in the second roud just two years ago.

And I am sure Alexander would be waived as well. I wouldn't be shocked if both players are released by their new clubs before week 1.

 

[bluesclues]

Northcutt can also add a dimension to the Lions return game in special teams.

I like this deal for the Lions and think Northcutt will help them.

 

[Skanker]

Lions blew this one. Just like they blow everything.

 

[Biabreakable]

I think it is a good trade. I don't think Northcutt would have been cut by JAX and not sure where some of you get that idea.

 

[cstu]

Northcutt can also add a dimension to the Lions return game in special teams.I like this deal for the Lions and think Northcutt will help them.

He will help them, but that's not saying much. All in all a decent move by the Lions.

 

[nightmare]

I think it is a good trade. I don't think Northcutt would have been cut by JAX and not sure where some of you get that idea.

Please explain how the Jags would keep Northcutt and his $2.75 million dollar salary? -Was he going to double his production to 80 catches? I got that idea the Jags would cut him because he stinks-no matter what he was getting paid. You don't pay special team guys that kind of $$$ I agree with the posters that say both players will be lucky not to get cut. ETA -Lions should restructure that contract-but that's what makes them the Lions.

 

[nightmare]

rank TM ATT Comp YDS TD INT Rush YDS TD

8 Matt Cassel NE 327 516 3693 21 11 74 271 2

9 Tony Romo DAL 276 450 3448 26 14 28 41 0

10 Chad Pennington MIA 321 476 3653 19 7 30 62 1

11 David Garrard JAX 335 535 3620 15 13 73 322 2

12 Tyler Thigpen KC 230 420 2608 18 12 62 386 3

13 Eli Manning NYG 289 479 3238 21 10 20 10 1

14 Brett Favre NYJ 343 522 3472 22 22 21 43 1

This is 2008 FBG's fantasy ranking stats.

Imagine what Garrard's gonna do now that he has ONE WR to work with.

If this cut and paste doesn't work I'll delete it

 

[thecardiackid]

rank TM ATT Comp YDS TD INT Rush YDS TD

8 Matt Cassel NE 327 516 3693 21 11 74 271 2

9 Tony Romo DAL 276 450 3448 26 14 28 41 0

10 Chad Pennington MIA 321 476 3653 19 7 30 62 1

11 David Garrard JAX 335 535 3620 15 13 73 322 2

12 Tyler Thigpen KC 230 420 2608 18 12 62 386 3

13 Eli Manning NYG 289 479 3238 21 10 20 10 1

14 Brett Favre NYJ 343 522 3472 22 22 21 43 1

This is 2008 FBG's fantasy ranking stats.

Imagine what Garrard's gonna do now that he has ONE WR to work with.

If this cut and paste doesn't work I'll delete it

are you implying that JAX WRs are worse off now, and they should have kept DN?

Holt + 1 or 2 of Walker / Williamson / Dillard / Thomas / etc. is < the blow brothers last season?

I'm sure JAX is both saving $/Cap and getting their new toys up the depth chart by trading a somewhat talented, overpaid journeyman guy. And they get a 2nd round DB for depth where they evidently need it.

Not saying anyone 'won' this trade. And those guessing one or both may be cut in TC might be right.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Or the fact that you can just throw about anyone in a WR2 role for your team and end up with 44 receptions...opportunity alone gets you that.

If you add "decent" to your sentence I'd agree somewhat. We're talking about rookies being key here. A rookie getting 44 catches would be very good for a rook.The Jags evaluation of WRs has been terrible.One (part time) starter went to Miami and didn't do squat. Reggie is out of the league wishing a team grabs him. Matt still doesn't have a job. Mike Walker who has been touted by the organization over and over, hasn't done squat. How about signing that bust from Minny? Porter was nothing of the big free agent signee he should have been.The Jags have done nothing to show that we(FFers) should trust their evaluation of WRs. I can go on and on here, this topic (not you) burns me up. They flat out stink with WRs.

So is Holt a sure fire bust too? What is your opinion on him moving forward? I thought it was a good sigining but you raise some pretty decent questions here.

 

[Binky The Doormat]

http://freep.com/article/20090626/SPORTS01...ennis+Northcutt

The Detroit Lions have agreed to trade safety Gerald Alexander to Jacksonville for wide receiver Dennis Northcutt, two people familiar with the situation said today.

The Lions had a logjam at safety and a need at wide receiver. Northcutt, 31, caught 44 passes each of the past two years for the Jaguars, after seven seasons with the Browns.

Alexander, a second-round pick in 2007, started 16 games as a rookie. He suffered a fractured vetebra five games into last season but returned to the field this off-season.

Once again the Lions show why they are the laughingstock of the NFL. Everyone knows Northcutt was about to be waived. The Lions have the #1 waiver claim priority, yet the trade a guy they drafted in the second roud just two years ago.

Agreed - I thought Millen left.

 

[Sweet Love]

From the Jaguars perspective, do you get the sense that this says more about their confidence in

(a) Mike Walker

(b) Rookie trio of Thomas, Dillard, and Underwood

or both?

The drafting of Thomas, Dillard, and Underwood says something about the Jaguars confidence in Mike Walker. The trading of Northcutt says something about their confidence in the rookies.

Or the fact that you can just throw about anyone in a WR2 role for your team and end up with 44 receptions...opportunity alone gets you that. Why pay a Vets salary when you can get basically the same for much cheaper. If the rooks don't pan out, no loss.

If they didn't bring in some more talent @ WR, and they continue to struggle, DET will have 16 chances to prove that wrong.

Worst case it motivates BJ (and Curry?) and provides some veteran leadership to that group. Calvin could use a lot more help to take at least some of the defense's attention and I'm sure they want to do everything possible to help out when they decide to toss Stafford in.

I'm not saying Northcutt is *the missing piece* here, but he has proven to be a decent NFL WR, and if they had the depth on D to cover it - why not? I don't know the contract $$$ details, but I doubt he's a significant cap hit.

I am sorry (now that I read it, my post seems a little "foggy"), but I meant that from the Jax perspective...I think it was a good move for both (Detroit hedging their bets on BJ and Curry) and Jax because they did not lose too much production.

 

[Sweet Love]

Or the fact that you can just throw about anyone in a WR2 role for your team and end up with 44 receptions...opportunity alone gets you that.

If you add "decent" to your sentence I'd agree somewhat. We're talking about rookies being key here. A rookie getting 44 catches would be very good for a rook.The Jags evaluation of WRs has been terrible.One (part time) starter went to Miami and didn't do squat. Reggie is out of the league wishing a team grabs him. Matt still doesn't have a job. Mike Walker who has been touted by the organization over and over, hasn't done squat. How about signing that bust from Minny? Porter was nothing of the big free agent signee he should have been.The Jags have done nothing to show that we(FFers) should trust their evaluation of WRs. I can go on and on here, this topic (not you) burns me up. They flat out stink with WRs.

I whole-heartedly agree with you here. They have been awful at evaluating talent, and brought in some real poor WRs. But on the other hand, when force fed the ball, guys like Reggie Williams (10 TDs) and Jones last year (roughly 750 yards?) did OK. Now that is NOT saying they are decent (far from it), but eventually someone puts up decent WR2 numbers in any offense (unless they spread it around like mad). Think back to the inaugural years of the Panters and the Texans. Mark Carrier with 66 receptions and 1000 yards (he did not sniff 900 yards in six seasons prior to that...did have one big year in Tampa in like '89) and Willie Green with 44 receptions for 882 yards (did not hit 620 yards prior to that). Or for Houston, Billy Miller with 51 receptions for 614 yards (until last year, never cracked 400 yards). It really was about opportunity in these cases and these guys including Walker, have a great opportunity in front of them. I am not sure, but how many teams had their WR2 with less than 40 catches...my guess would be very few. Chicago, Dallas and KC did, but they each had their WR2 with 35+ and had very active TEs, Seattle did but they were racked with injuries, Cleveland and Oakland were just bad.

 

[thecardiackid]

From the Jaguars perspective, do you get the sense that this says more about their confidence in

(a) Mike Walker

(b) Rookie trio of Thomas, Dillard, and Underwood

or both?

The drafting of Thomas, Dillard, and Underwood says something about the Jaguars confidence in Mike Walker. The trading of Northcutt says something about their confidence in the rookies.

Or the fact that you can just throw about anyone in a WR2 role for your team and end up with 44 receptions...opportunity alone gets you that. Why pay a Vets salary when you can get basically the same for much cheaper. If the rooks don't pan out, no loss.

If they didn't bring in some more talent @ WR, and they continue to struggle, DET will have 16 chances to prove that wrong.

Worst case it motivates BJ (and Curry?) and provides some veteran leadership to that group. Calvin could use a lot more help to take at least some of the defense's attention and I'm sure they want to do everything possible to help out when they decide to toss Stafford in.

I'm not saying Northcutt is *the missing piece* here, but he has proven to be a decent NFL WR, and if they had the depth on D to cover it - why not? I don't know the contract $$$ details, but I doubt he's a significant cap hit.

I am sorry (now that I read it, my post seems a little "foggy"), but I meant that from the Jax perspective...I think it was a good move for both (Detroit hedging their bets on BJ and Curry) and Jax because they did not lose too much production.

NP - when I looked @ it again, I can see how that could have gone either way. I agree w/ you, and also think there's even more upside in JAX. DET and Clavin need a couple reliable vets to help CPepp or Stafford. One of BJ, Northcutt or Curry need to be a very good WR2 in DET or it will be rough - especially for Calvin owners.And on a side note, this is what I love about the SP... we're here discussing a few late round NFL Draft picks fighting for WR3/2 roles on average @ best passing teams.

 

[Biabreakable]

I think it is a good trade. I don't think Northcutt would have been cut by JAX and not sure where some of you get that idea.

Please explain how the Jags would keep Northcutt and his $2.75 million dollar salary? -Was he going to double his production to 80 catches? I got that idea the Jags would cut him because he stinks-no matter what he was getting paid. You don't pay special team guys that kind of $$$ I agree with the posters that say both players will be lucky not to get cut. ETA -Lions should restructure that contract-but that's what makes them the Lions.

I dont know what the contracts are nor do I claim to have a deep understanding of them. However 2.75 million doesen't sound like that much money compared to what other players are making now days.I think Northcutt is a better player than you do.31 years old is experienced for a WR not over the hill.The safety Atlanta gets might make the roster if he is healthy. I have no doubt that Northcutt would have made either teams roster.Obviously NFL teams value players that can contribute on special teams and in multiple roles more than FF players do.

 

[puckalicious]

And on a side note, this is what I love about the SP... we're here discussing a few late round NFL Draft picks fighting for WR3/2 roles on average @ best passing teams.

I'm not so sure a discussion on 2 meaningless players (FFL perspective) adds anything to what the SP has to offer. I'd rather read about players who will actually get drafted this year. Yes I could have skipped this thread but I got sucked in to read all the know-it-all pontification.

 

[identikit]

I think it is a good trade. I don't think Northcutt would have been cut by JAX and not sure where some of you get that idea.

Please explain how the Jags would keep Northcutt and his $2.75 million dollar salary? -Was he going to double his production to 80 catches?

I got that idea the Jags would cut him because he stinks-no matter

what he was getting paid.

You don't pay special team guys that kind of $$

I agree with the posters that say both players will be lucky not to get cut.

ETA -Lions should restructure that contract-but that's what

makes them the Lions.

I dont know what the contracts are nor do I claim to have a deep understanding of them. However 2.75 million doesen't sound like that much money compared to what other players are making now days.I think Northcutt is a better player than you do.

31 years old is experienced for a WR not over the hill.

The safety Atlanta gets might make the roster if he is healthy. I have no doubt that Northcutt would have made either teams roster.

Obviously NFL teams value players that can contribute on special teams and in multiple roles more than FF players do.

Jax not Atlanta....Was reported in multiple places that Northcutt would be cut by the Jags if a trade wasn't made.

 

[Biabreakable]

I think it is a good trade. I don't think Northcutt would have been cut by JAX and not sure where some of you get that idea.

Please explain how the Jags would keep Northcutt and his $2.75 million dollar salary? -Was he going to double his production to 80 catches?

I got that idea the Jags would cut him because he stinks-no matter

what he was getting paid.

You don't pay special team guys that kind of $$

I agree with the posters that say both players will be lucky not to get cut.

ETA -Lions should restructure that contract-but that's what

makes them the Lions.

I dont know what the contracts are nor do I claim to have a deep understanding of them. However 2.75 million doesen't sound like that much money compared to what other players are making now days.I think Northcutt is a better player than you do.

31 years old is experienced for a WR not over the hill.

The safety Atlanta gets might make the roster if he is healthy. I have no doubt that Northcutt would have made either teams roster.

Obviously NFL teams value players that can contribute on special teams and in multiple roles more than FF players do.

Jax not Atlanta....Was reported in multiple places that Northcutt would be cut by the Jags if a trade wasn't made.

OICFriends make sure your friends post drunk.

 

[identikit]

I think it is a good trade. I don't think Northcutt would have been cut by JAX and not sure where some of you get that idea.

Please explain how the Jags would keep Northcutt and his $2.75 million dollar salary? -Was he going to double his production to 80 catches?

I got that idea the Jags would cut him because he stinks-no matter

what he was getting paid.

You don't pay special team guys that kind of $

I agree with the posters that say both players will be lucky not to get cut.

ETA -Lions should restructure that contract-but that's what

makes them the Lions.

I dont know what the contracts are nor do I claim to have a deep understanding of them. However 2.75 million doesen't sound like that much money compared to what other players are making now days.I think Northcutt is a better player than you do.

31 years old is experienced for a WR not over the hill.

The safety Atlanta gets might make the roster if he is healthy. I have no doubt that Northcutt would have made either teams roster.

Obviously NFL teams value players that can contribute on special teams and in multiple roles more than FF players do.

Jax not Atlanta....Was reported in multiple places that Northcutt would be cut by the Jags if a trade wasn't made.

OICFriends make sure your friends post drunk.

No worries...It happens...

< coffee

 

[Addai's Adidas]

So these are the Lions receivers?

CJ

BJ

Curry

Nortncutt

the rookie TE?

The rookie from PENN?

 

[Warhogs]

I actually think this was a decent trade for both sides and I think the Lions have been doing a lot right this offseason.

 

[obxlegends]

So these are the Lions receivers?CJBJCurryNortncuttthe rookie TE?The rookie from PENN?

Calvin Johnson, Bryant Johnson, Dennis Northcutt (PR), Ronald Curry, Derrick Williams (PR), Keary Colbert, John Standeford, Adam Jennings, Chris Hannon, D.J. Boldin and Eric Fowler.

 

[Addai's Adidas]

So these are the Lions receivers?CJBJCurryNortncuttthe rookie TE?The rookie from PENN?

Calvin Johnson, Bryant Johnson, Dennis Northcutt (PR), Ronald Curry, Derrick Williams (PR), Keary Colbert, John Standeford, Adam Jennings, Chris Hannon, D.J. Boldin and Eric Fowler.

Man that is rough. On injury to CJ and there is no one.

 

[gonzobill5]

So these are the Lions receivers?CJBJCurryNortncuttthe rookie TE?The rookie from PENN?

Calvin Johnson, Bryant Johnson, Dennis Northcutt (PR), Ronald Curry, Derrick Williams (PR), Keary Colbert, John Standeford, Adam Jennings, Chris Hannon, D.J. Boldin and Eric Fowler.

Man that is rough. On injury to CJ and there is no one.

Toss in Kevin Smith and it looks to me like a lot of solid pass catching options. I think that Curry and Northcutt were both nice acquisitions and that the Lions passing game is once again the least of their worries.

 

[Bri]

I whole-heartedly agree with you here. They have been awful at evaluating talent, and brought in some real poor WRs. But on the other hand, when force fed the ball, guys like Reggie Williams (10 TDs) and Jones last year (roughly 750 yards?) did OK. Now that is NOT saying they are decent (far from it), but eventually someone puts up decent WR2 numbers in any offense (unless they spread it around like mad). Think back to the inaugural years of the Panters and the Texans. Mark Carrier with 66 receptions and 1000 yards (he did not sniff 900 yards in six seasons prior to that...did have one big year in Tampa in like '89) and Willie Green with 44 receptions for 882 yards (did not hit 620 yards prior to that). Or for Houston, Billy Miller with 51 receptions for 614 yards (until last year, never cracked 400 yards). It really was about opportunity in these cases and these guys including Walker, have a great opportunity in front of them. I am not sure, but how many teams had their WR2 with less than 40 catches...my guess would be very few. Chicago, Dallas and KC did, but they each had their WR2 with 35+ and had very active TEs, Seattle did but they were racked with injuries, Cleveland and Oakland were just bad.

It'd be a select group of "running, running, run some more, oh yeah don't forget to pass" type teamsTitans were led(WR wise, receptions stat) by their 3rd WR, Brandon Jones.Reggie Williams only had 37 catches as the Jags #2.There could be a shift, if you want to roll that way, in Jax. Maybe DelRio sees a prob and is addressing it. It's been a long time since Keenan and Jimmy and Del Rio hasn't realized it yetBTW Billy Miller has always been decent IMO. Denver was loaded at TE and Houston wound up wasting their time with TEs that would flop instead of him.