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Lions Owner William Clay Ford Sr. Has Died At The Age Of 88 (1 Viewer)

RIP, fascinating man.

I haven't agreed with many decisions in regard to the Lions.

This man was about Ford Motor company and also had a love for Lincolns. His family was a bit of modern day american type royalty til maybe the 80s. I loved that he was a WWII veteran and the different hard work stories for a kid born with a golden spoon in his mouth. He's got the whole stuffy prep school thing and not afraid to get his hands dirty too.

IIRC he was given X amount of stock by his dad and got a loan on that to buy even more. He loved ford motor company.

I have to go dig up an old book about him...fascinating businessman that follows his heart.

I haven't understood Detroit's city (almost literally) collapsing. It seems as if it's "hanging on by a thread" and they ought to bulldoze large areas and start over...if they had the money to bulldoze and build. I wonder how much money he had tied into detroit, if it stays invested in detroit, it's affect on the city. His son doesn't need the money, so to speak. His dad loved detroit and he could build something grandiose in his dad's name, he could get out of dodge and let the city fall further. I would oh so strongly guess his passing affects the city of detroit. I wish I knew more to be able to hazard a guess of how it would impact the city.

 
Wow, sad day for the Fords and the Lions, Fox 2 in Detroit is reporting that he has passed away at the age of 88.

(Posted in Lions thread but he deserves his own)


Jennifer Hammond@HammerFox2 5m

#Lions team owner William Clay Ford Sr. has died.
No disrespect to him personally but sad day for the Lions? He's the worst owner in the history of professional sports. He makes Jerry Jones and Al Davis look great. Some teams haven't won a championship, the Lions have one playoff win in the last 57 years. He wasted Barry Sander's career.

 
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Wow, sad day for the Fords and the Lions, Fox 2 in Detroit is reporting that he has passed away at the age of 88.

(Posted in Lions thread but he deserves his own)


Jennifer Hammond@HammerFox2 5m

#Lions team owner William Clay Ford Sr. has died.
No disrespect to him personally but sad day for the Lions? He's the worst owner in the history of professional sports. He makes Jerry Jones and Al Davis look great. Some teams haven't won a championship, the Lions have one playoff win in the last 57 years. He wasted Barry Sander's career.
Sorry to say I have to agree with this post. It's sad anytime anyone dies but Mr. Ford really was clueless on how to run a football team. Way too loyal to incompetent people (like Matt Millen) that shouldn't have even been hired in the first place.

 
Wow, sad day for the Fords and the Lions, Fox 2 in Detroit is reporting that he has passed away at the age of 88.

(Posted in Lions thread but he deserves his own)


Jennifer Hammond@HammerFox2 5m

#Lions team owner William Clay Ford Sr. has died.
No disrespect to him personally but sad day for the Lions? He's the worst owner in the history of professional sports. He makes Jerry Jones and Al Davis look great. Some teams haven't won a championship, the Lions have one playoff win in the last 57 years. He wasted Barry Sander's career.
No disrespect huh?

 
Wow, sad day for the Fords and the Lions, Fox 2 in Detroit is reporting that he has passed away at the age of 88.

(Posted in Lions thread but he deserves his own)


Jennifer Hammond@HammerFox2 5m

#Lions team owner William Clay Ford Sr. has died.
No disrespect to him personally but sad day for the Lions? He's the worst owner in the history of professional sports. He makes Jerry Jones and Al Davis look great. Some teams haven't won a championship, the Lions have one playoff win in the last 57 years. He wasted Barry Sander's career.
Sorry to say I have to agree with this post. It's sad anytime anyone dies but Mr. Ford really was clueless on how to run a football team. Way too loyal to incompetent people (like Matt Millen) that shouldn't have even been hired in the first place.
How would you feel if people talked in harsh tones about your mother and father they day they died?

 
Wow, sad day for the Fords and the Lions, Fox 2 in Detroit is reporting that he has passed away at the age of 88.

(Posted in Lions thread but he deserves his own)


Jennifer Hammond@HammerFox2 5m

#Lions team owner William Clay Ford Sr. has died.
No disrespect to him personally but sad day for the Lions? He's the worst owner in the history of professional sports. He makes Jerry Jones and Al Davis look great. Some teams haven't won a championship, the Lions have one playoff win in the last 57 years. He wasted Barry Sander's career.
No disrespect huh?
:lmao:

 
Wow, sad day for the Fords and the Lions, Fox 2 in Detroit is reporting that he has passed away at the age of 88.

(Posted in Lions thread but he deserves his own)


Jennifer Hammond@HammerFox2 5m

#Lions team owner William Clay Ford Sr. has died.
No disrespect to him personally but sad day for the Lions? He's the worst owner in the history of professional sports. He makes Jerry Jones and Al Davis look great. Some teams haven't won a championship, the Lions have one playoff win in the last 57 years. He wasted Barry Sander's career.
Sorry to say I have to agree with this post. It's sad anytime anyone dies but Mr. Ford really was clueless on how to run a football team. Way too loyal to incompetent people (like Matt Millen) that shouldn't have even been hired in the first place.
How would you feel if people talked in harsh tones about your mother and father they day they died?
They were harsh on Ford when he was alive. Why should it be any different now?

 
Wow, sad day for the Fords and the Lions, Fox 2 in Detroit is reporting that he has passed away at the age of 88.

(Posted in Lions thread but he deserves his own)


Jennifer Hammond@HammerFox2 5m

#Lions team owner William Clay Ford Sr. has died.
No disrespect to him personally but sad day for the Lions? He's the worst owner in the history of professional sports. He makes Jerry Jones and Al Davis look great. Some teams haven't won a championship, the Lions have one playoff win in the last 57 years. He wasted Barry Sander's career.
Sorry to say I have to agree with this post. It's sad anytime anyone dies but Mr. Ford really was clueless on how to run a football team. Way too loyal to incompetent people (like Matt Millen) that shouldn't have even been hired in the first place.
How would you feel if people talked in harsh tones about your mother and father they day they died?
They were harsh on Ford when he was alive. Why should it be any different now?
While fans of a team may dislike his ownership practices, he did a great deal for the city of Detroit. For those who do not understand then they need to do their research. He was more than an owner for the Lions. When a person who has helped many passes on you show respect.

 
Wow, sad day for the Fords and the Lions, Fox 2 in Detroit is reporting that he has passed away at the age of 88.

(Posted in Lions thread but he deserves his own)


Jennifer Hammond@HammerFox2 5m

#Lions team owner William Clay Ford Sr. has died.
No disrespect to him personally but sad day for the Lions? He's the worst owner in the history of professional sports. He makes Jerry Jones and Al Davis look great. Some teams haven't won a championship, the Lions have one playoff win in the last 57 years. He wasted Barry Sander's career.
Sorry to say I have to agree with this post. It's sad anytime anyone dies but Mr. Ford really was clueless on how to run a football team. Way too loyal to incompetent people (like Matt Millen) that shouldn't have even been hired in the first place.
How would you feel if people talked in harsh tones about your mother and father they day they died?
They were harsh on Ford when he was alive. Why should it be any different now?
While fans of a team may dislike his ownership practices, he did a great deal for the city of Detroit. For those who do not understand then they need to do their research. He was more than an owner for the Lions. When a person who has helped many passes on you show respect.
Most people here don't live in Detroit, as well a not being Lions fans. On a football related board, he should be judged according to the team's success as an owner. If nobody respected Ford as one alive, then it's hypocritical to all of the sudden show him respect in passing.

 
Wow, sad day for the Fords and the Lions, Fox 2 in Detroit is reporting that he has passed away at the age of 88.

(Posted in Lions thread but he deserves his own)


Jennifer Hammond@HammerFox2 5m

#Lions team owner William Clay Ford Sr. has died.
No disrespect to him personally but sad day for the Lions? He's the worst owner in the history of professional sports. He makes Jerry Jones and Al Davis look great. Some teams haven't won a championship, the Lions have one playoff win in the last 57 years. He wasted Barry Sander's career.
Some people either have a short memory or have no idea what Al Davis accomplished.

 
Wow, sad day for the Fords and the Lions, Fox 2 in Detroit is reporting that he has passed away at the age of 88.

(Posted in Lions thread but he deserves his own)


Jennifer Hammond@HammerFox2 5m

#Lions team owner William Clay Ford Sr. has died.
No disrespect to him personally but sad day for the Lions? He's the worst owner in the history of professional sports. He makes Jerry Jones and Al Davis look great. Some teams haven't won a championship, the Lions have one playoff win in the last 57 years. He wasted Barry Sander's career.
Some people either have a short memory or have no idea what Al Davis accomplished.
Or Jerry Jones for that matter

 
Wow, sad day for the Fords and the Lions, Fox 2 in Detroit is reporting that he has passed away at the age of 88.

(Posted in Lions thread but he deserves his own)


Jennifer Hammond@HammerFox2 5m

#Lions team owner William Clay Ford Sr. has died.
No disrespect to him personally but sad day for the Lions? He's the worst owner in the history of professional sports. He makes Jerry Jones and Al Davis look great. Some teams haven't won a championship, the Lions have one playoff win in the last 57 years. He wasted Barry Sander's career.
Sorry to say I have to agree with this post. It's sad anytime anyone dies but Mr. Ford really was clueless on how to run a football team. Way too loyal to incompetent people (like Matt Millen) that shouldn't have even been hired in the first place.
How would you feel if people talked in harsh tones about your mother and father they day they died?
They were harsh on Ford when he was alive. Why should it be any different now?
While fans of a team may dislike his ownership practices, he did a great deal for the city of Detroit. For those who do not understand then they need to do their research. He was more than an owner for the Lions. When a person who has helped many passes on you show respect.
Most people here don't live in Detroit, as well a not being Lions fans. On a football related board, he should be judged according to the team's success as an owner. If nobody respected Ford as one alive, then it's hypocritical to all of the sudden show him respect in passing.
Respect for a good mans passing is universal and on any board, if you have class. The bolded is classless to say the least.

 
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Wow, sad day for the Fords and the Lions, Fox 2 in Detroit is reporting that he has passed away at the age of 88.

(Posted in Lions thread but he deserves his own)


Jennifer Hammond@HammerFox2 5m

#Lions team owner William Clay Ford Sr. has died.
No disrespect to him personally but sad day for the Lions? He's the worst owner in the history of professional sports. He makes Jerry Jones and Al Davis look great. Some teams haven't won a championship, the Lions have one playoff win in the last 57 years. He wasted Barry Sander's career.
Sorry to say I have to agree with this post. It's sad anytime anyone dies but Mr. Ford really was clueless on how to run a football team. Way too loyal to incompetent people (like Matt Millen) that shouldn't have even been hired in the first place.
How would you feel if people talked in harsh tones about your mother and father they day they died?
They were harsh on Ford when he was alive. Why should it be any different now?
While fans of a team may dislike his ownership practices, he did a great deal for the city of Detroit. For those who do not understand then they need to do their research. He was more than an owner for the Lions. When a person who has helped many passes on you show respect.
Maybe you should use some logic when you post. If he was great for the city, than post about how that. I wouldn't argue, I don't live in Detroit and have no idea. I don't know a thing about the the guy personally and not saying he was a bad guy. But yeah, he was a really horrible owner and he wasted Barry Sanders career and he's wasted half of Calvin Johnson's career. It's amazing that people still support the team. I grew up watching them and after the Fontes years, I quit watching.

I really don't get why you care and why it isn't okay to be honest. He was a bad owner who made money and didn't care if they won or not. That's just how it is.

 
Wow, sad day for the Fords and the Lions, Fox 2 in Detroit is reporting that he has passed away at the age of 88.

(Posted in Lions thread but he deserves his own)


Jennifer Hammond@HammerFox2 5m

#Lions team owner William Clay Ford Sr. has died.
No disrespect to him personally but sad day for the Lions? He's the worst owner in the history of professional sports. He makes Jerry Jones and Al Davis look great. Some teams haven't won a championship, the Lions have one playoff win in the last 57 years. He wasted Barry Sander's career.
Sorry to say I have to agree with this post. It's sad anytime anyone dies but Mr. Ford really was clueless on how to run a football team. Way too loyal to incompetent people (like Matt Millen) that shouldn't have even been hired in the first place.
How would you feel if people talked in harsh tones about your mother and father they day they died?
They were harsh on Ford when he was alive. Why should it be any different now?
While fans of a team may dislike his ownership practices, he did a great deal for the city of Detroit. For those who do not understand then they need to do their research. He was more than an owner for the Lions. When a person who has helped many passes on you show respect.
Most people here don't live in Detroit, as well a not being Lions fans. On a football related board, he should be judged according to the team's success as an owner. If nobody respected Ford as one alive, then it's hypocritical to all of the sudden show him respect in passing.
Respect for a good mans passing is universal and on any board, if you have class. The bolded is classless to say the least.
Again, as an NFL owner, I don't think history will be on his side. All you have to do is look at the Lions' record and see many years of futility to outright horrid seasons. They have never won a playoff game during his tenure as owner. Of course everybody knows of the Lions' plight during those years, and it shows even though you can hire/fire GM's, head coaches, and go through many a player, you still can't fire an owner.

He simply wasn't a good NFL owner of a franchise. If that's being disrespectful, then so be it. It's the truth.

 
It's not a bad thing if your worst trait was being too loyal to staff members. Yes, he was an ineffective owner when it comes down to it, but he was apparently a top gentleman and an owner who was widely respected around the league whilst being loved by Lions players and staff for his friendliness, approachability and passion for his club.

The stats don't look good and he took a lot of flak over the years but he should be remembered in a positive light overall.

Hopefully, the Lions can do it for him in a new era

 
Wow, sad day for the Fords and the Lions, Fox 2 in Detroit is reporting that he has passed away at the age of 88.

(Posted in Lions thread but he deserves his own)


Jennifer Hammond@HammerFox2 5m

#Lions team owner William Clay Ford Sr. has died.
No disrespect to him personally but sad day for the Lions? He's the worst owner in the history of professional sports. He makes Jerry Jones and Al Davis look great. Some teams haven't won a championship, the Lions have one playoff win in the last 57 years. He wasted Barry Sander's career.
I was gonna post something similar. I also don't have much sympathy for one of the richest/greediest family dynasties in America.

 
Rhythmdoctor said:
voiceofunreason said:
Wow, sad day for the Fords and the Lions, Fox 2 in Detroit is reporting that he has passed away at the age of 88.

(Posted in Lions thread but he deserves his own)


Jennifer Hammond@HammerFox2 5m

#Lions team owner William Clay Ford Sr. has died.
No disrespect to him personally but sad day for the Lions? He's the worst owner in the history of professional sports. He makes Jerry Jones and Al Davis look great. Some teams haven't won a championship, the Lions have one playoff win in the last 57 years. He wasted Barry Sander's career.
I was gonna post something similar. I also don't have much sympathy for one of the richest/greediest family dynasties in America.
Clearly some people are heartless and guess they feel being behind a name that they cannot be traced to allows them their entitled hate of others on the internet, even though they don't know the man at all. Greediest families? The Fords? You have no idea what you are talking about. It is OK to have an opinion, but at least have an understanding of what you are talking about. The worst owner in sports? Bet you most of the people who worked for him never thought that. Only people who are speaking bad of him are people hiding on the internet message boards.

March 10, 2014 at 9:56 am
Bob Wojnowski For 50 years, Lions owner William Clay Ford kept the faith[SIZE=small]From The Detroit News: http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20140310/SPORTS0101/303100025#ixzz2vZuF3Qp8[/SIZE]

For William Clay Ford to keep trying, year after year, tribulation after tribulation, it took deep doses of an admirable trait, a trait rare in sports. Some called it loyalty, even blind loyalty, but it was deeper than that.

Ford had an unbendable faith that served him well in life, if not always in the football realm. He had faith in the people he hired, faith in his ability to provide the resources, faith that next season would always be better. Evidence to the contrary did not shake his principles, that faith engenders loyalty, and loyalty should engender success.

It’s a solid way to live but a difficult way to win, part of the conflicted perceptions of Ford, who owned the Lions for 50 years. The record will show loyalty didn’t prevail, as the Lions lost more than they won. The numbers define the franchise, but they don’t fully define the man.

A genuinely nice person with a classic throaty laugh, Ford had a personality that made it hard for him to admit mistakes, because an admission would require the firing of someone he trusted. Coaches, general managers, players and so many others were sincere in their warmth for Ford. If such kindness is inextricably linked to the Lions’ struggles — one playoff victory since 1957 — well, Ford didn’t know any other way to do business.

The team will remain in the family with Ford’s wife, Martha. The expectation is Bill Ford Jr. will assume more and more of a leadership role. If his success at the auto company is an indicator, he possesses some of his father’s best qualities, with perhaps more of the tough qualities.

In a business as brutal as pro football, tough decisions are made daily, and careers can end quickly. Ford understood that, probably too well. He kept Russ Thomas as his GM for 22 years, and Matt Millen for eight. The combined 30 years were mostly disappointing, but it goes back to that faith issue. If Thomas or Millen or Wayne Fontes told him the next batch of rookies was better than the last, Ford desperately wanted to believe it and see it.

Did he want to get his Lions to the Super Bowl? Of course he did. But reaching the top in the NFL requires manic persistence and ruthlessness, qualities not always evident in nice people. Ford wanted to win but wasn’t interested in destroying relationships to do it. If loyalty to a fault meant he didn’t want to win as badly as others, it was a badge he was willing to wear.

“Detroit is a football town with fans who want to win — bad — but what they miss is Mr. Ford wanted to win more than any of the fans did,” Millen told the Associated Press. “For a variety of reasons, it didn’t work out. It wasn’t because he didn’t want to. He was willing to try anything and he did.”

Ford spent whatever it took in his later years, and listened to those who said the big payoff was just around the bend. I think as time went on, he became more inclined to hear what he wanted to hear, that the team was getting better.

When he hired Jim Schwartz in 2009, Ford seemed to know this might be his last shot at it. Asked why this hire would be different than all the others, he made a stark admission.

“This is going to sound a little egotistical, maybe it is,” Ford said. “Because this was solely my decision, rather than being influenced by a lot of other thoughts and people. If Jim Schwartz doesn’t work out, you can blame me 100 percent.”

He generally took his hits without flinching, understanding the fans’ frustration but not sure how to fix it. Ford loved the camaraderie of a team, and before health pushed him from the spotlight, he often popped into the locker room after a victory, his laugh echoing around the room. If you wonder why he would own the team so long and withstand so much criticism, those were the moments he craved.

“He was just a guy that wanted to be treated like one of the guys, more so than who he was and the name that went along with it,” said Hall of Fame Lions tight end Charlie Sanders, who played for the Lions from 1968 to 1977.

In defeat, Ford appeared to fans to be detached and passive. In victory, I think they would’ve loved him, because he had a lively personality. When interviewed, Ford didn’t hide from his record, and often joked he didn’t have a crystal ball but would keep trying to get it right.

He did return the team to its roots downtown at Ford Field, a beautiful building that has hosted a Super Bowl and would be a tremendous place to host a playoff game one of these seasons. Loyalty begets loyalty and the Lions have a deep, loyal fan base, perhaps as deep as any in sports, based on the root-reward disparity.

The Lions don’t win regularly but they do entertain regularly, and might end up with the best running back (Barry Sanders) and best receiver (Calvin Johnson) of a generation. They’ve always had some pieces, just not all of them, and even after the 0-16 season and the depth of the economic collapse, the fans kept coming back.

“Money’s tough to come by for all of them, I understand that,” Ford said five years ago. “But the least we can do is put on a good performance for them, and I think we will. I certainly hope we will.”

As everyone knows, hope isn’t a strategy in sports, although it’s a positive trait in life. You could say William Clay Ford believed in the right things, just not always in the right people. He never came close to selling the team, never got into public spats and rarely made cryptic statements about anyone’s job security. He had faith in the people he hired and the players he signed, misguided at times but genuine to the core, to the very end.


Bob.wojnowski@detroitnews.com

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False Start said:
voiceofunreason said:
Wow, sad day for the Fords and the Lions, Fox 2 in Detroit is reporting that he has passed away at the age of 88.

(Posted in Lions thread but he deserves his own)


Jennifer Hammond@HammerFox2 5m

#Lions team owner William Clay Ford Sr. has died.
No disrespect to him personally but sad day for the Lions? He's the worst owner in the history of professional sports. He makes Jerry Jones and Al Davis look great. Some teams haven't won a championship, the Lions have one playoff win in the last 57 years. He wasted Barry Sander's career.
No disrespect huh?
Not at all. Ford was a decent man from what I have read about him but the truth is Ford was a horrible as an owner owner. The Lions have the worst winning % in the NFL since WCF took over the team. Ford kept people/coaches way too long, made horrible hires. Ford hired Matt Millen because when he heard Millen call the games on TV he thought he knew the game. Millen rejected Ford the first time saying "I have never worked in a front office or been a GM..Ford came back the next year and asked again and offered Millen huge money. Then gave Matt Millen an extension and made him one of the top paid GMs in the NFL in the midst of 3-4 win seasons because he like eating dinner with Millen and hearing Millen's stories.

For all the good Ford did away from the Lions the one thing he could never get right is how to run an NFL organization.

 
I sure hope that when i die some kind fellow humans on a message board are quick to post about all my shortcomings, assuming they say "no disrespect" first

 

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