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[switz]

When was the last time two different RBs with over 100 carries finished the season within the current top-20 best seasons for YPC?

Who are the RBs this year? Who were they before?

 

[editor47]

well, this year one is chris johnson.

i will say the other is jamaal charles.

 

[switz]

well, this year one is chris johnson.i will say the other is jamaal charles.

You got one right. But Charles YPC this year isn't even in the top-100 single seasons for an RB with over 100 carries.

 

[Ted Lange as your Bartender]

Did Felix the Cat get to 100 carries for the season?

 

[The Comedian]

switz and Chase join forces. what a nightmare.

 

[theglorydays]

Correll Buckhalter? Nevermind it's definitely Felix Jones he's got 101 carries now (5.9ypc) and is switz's man crush so i should have known he would have found some obscure stat to get him involved.

 

[Doug B]

When was the last time two different RBs with over 100 carries finished the season within the current top-20 best seasons for YPC?

Who are the RBs this year? Who were they before?

Gonna go check 1984 in a bit to see if the previous ones were Eric Dickerson and former Saint Hokie Gajan. Gajan had one freakish 600-something yard season where he was around 6 ypc -- as a fullback, no less.Could maybe be Marcus Allen and Gajan ... gotta research.

EDIT: Yup -- it was Dickerson & Gajan in 1984.

 

[switz]

When was the last time two different RBs with over 100 carries finished the season within the current top-20 best seasons for YPC?

Who are the RBs this year? Who were they before?

Gonna go check 1984 in a bit to see if the previous ones were Eric Dickerson and former Saint Hokie Gajan. Gajan had one freakish 600-something yard season where he was aroiund 6 ypc -- as a fullback, no less.Could maybe be Marcus Allen and Gajan ... gotta research.

EDIT: Yup -- it was Dickerson & Gajan in 1984.

'84 was the previous season, if you count Gajan - who was a FB, not an RB.When was the last time two RBs did it though?

 

[TommyGilmore]

When was the last time two different RBs with over 100 carries finished the season within the current top-20 best seasons for YPC?

ADP in 2007.edit: or DWill in 2008.edit 2: O.J. Simpson and Mercury Morris in 1973.

 

[Doug B]

2007 -- Jerious Norwood at 103/613/6.0, and Adrian Peterson at 238/1341/5.6?

 

[Doug B]

Switz, what's your definition for "the current top-20 best seasons for YPC"? See here to see why I am confused. Did you just take that list and strip off the non-tailbacks?

 

[Polar Dude]

'84 was the previous season, if you count Gajan - who was a FB, not an RB.

Fullbacks might not be tailbacks or halfbacks, but they are running backs.

 

[switz]

2007 -- Jerious Norwood at 103/613/6.0, and Adrian Peterson at 238/1341/5.6?

.Actually in 2007 Norwood, Peterson, Fred Taylor and Chester Taylor (in that order) all finished in the top-100 YPC seasons for RBs with over 100 carries, but ONLY Norwood finished in the top-20.

 

[switz]

Switz, what's your definition for "the current top-20 best seasons for YPC"? See here to see why I am confused. Did you just take that list and strip off the non-tailbacks?

Nope, didn't use that list.Here is the criteria-

Be listed as an RB for your team (not TE, QB, WR, OT, DT, DB, LB, FB, etc.)

Have at least 100 carries in a season.

List all of those seasons by YPC descending.

What is the top 20 players?

Gajan and Dickerson count. Technically a FB nowadays is pretty much listed as an RB, but it wasn't always that way.

I'll blame it on pro-football-reference

 

[Doug B]

Switz, what's your definition for "the current top-20 best seasons for YPC"? See here to see why I am confused. Did you just take that list and strip off the non-tailbacks?

Nope, didn't use that list.Here is the criteria-

Be listed as an RB for your team (not TE, QB, WR, OT, DT, DB, LB, FB, etc.)

Have at least 100 carries in a season.

List all of those seasons by YPC descending.

What is the top 20 players?

Gajan and Dickerson would have counted if Gajan was a RB, not a FB. It was a really good guess!

Oh ... you mean an individual season's top-20 ypc. Okay.Different leagues at the time, but Chargers' RB Keith Lincoln and Browns' RB (FB?) Jim Brown both had top-20 all-time YPC seasons in 1963.

 

[Doug B]

1998? Terrell Davis, Garrison Hearst?

 

[switz]

Different leagues at the time, but Chargers' RB Keith Lincoln and Browns' RB (FB?) Jim Brown both had top-20 all-time YPC seasons in 1963.

Edited just to trim the quote

 

[TommyGilmore]

2007 -- Jerious Norwood at 103/613/6.0, and Adrian Peterson at 238/1341/5.6?

.Actually in 2007 Norwood, Peterson, Fred Taylor and Chester Taylor (in that order) all finished in the top-100 YPC seasons for RBs with over 100 carries, but ONLY Norwood finished in the top-20.

Actually, Peterson finished #19 if you eliminate #2, #22 & #23 (Dan Fowler), #7 & #8 (Joe Perry), #9 (Gajan), #20 (Marion Motley), and #21 (Bill Osmanski) from the all-time NFL YPC list, since they all played fullback.link

 

[switz]

2007 -- Jerious Norwood at 103/613/6.0, and Adrian Peterson at 238/1341/5.6?

.Actually in 2007 Norwood, Peterson, Fred Taylor and Chester Taylor (in that order) all finished in the top-100 YPC seasons for RBs with over 100 carries, but ONLY Norwood finished in the top-20.

Actually, Peterson finished #19 if you eliminate #2, #22 & #23 (Dan Fowler), #7 & #8 (Joe Perry), #9 (Gajan), #20 (Marion Motley), and #21 (Bill Osmanski) from the all-time NFL YPC list, since they all played fullback.link

I included the AFL, whose player stats I believe are included as NFL history. But we are living in some really incredible years for RBs.

 

[Doug B]

Gajan and Dickerson count. Technically a FB nowadays is pretty much listed as an RB, but it wasn't always that way.

I'll blame it on pro-football-reference

Gajan's 1984 is one of those only-homers-know seasons.

 

[Chase Stuart]

OJ/Morris?

 

[switz]

OJ/Morris?

Yes, they did as well.... On a totally different, but interesting note. Did the AAFC just have horrible defenses?

Rk	Player		Year	Age	Tm	Lg	G	GS	Att	Yds	Y/A	TD	Y/G2	Joe Perry*	1949	22	SFO	AAFC	11	5	115	783	6.81	8	71.210	Chet Mutryn	1947	26	BUF	AAFC	14	14	140	868	6.20	9	62.012	Marion Motley*	1948	28	CLE	AAFC	14	14	157	964	6.14	5	68.913	Buddy Young	1947	21	NYY	AAFC	14	8	116	712	6.14	3	50.915	Marion Motley*	1947	27	CLE	AAFC	14	12	146	889	6.09	8	63.5

 

[Chaka]

Felix still had a crappy year.

 

[editor47]

seriously: since when don't FBs count? are they not running with the football? any list that discounts FBs is moronic. its actually more impressive since they have less of a cutback opportunity and, generally, less speed.

 

[Chaka]

seriously: since when don't FBs count? are they not running with the football? any list that discounts FBs is moronic. its actually more impressive since they have less of a cutback opportunity and, generally, less speed.

Jim Brown was a fullback.

 

[daveR]

OJ/Morris?

Yes, they did as well.... On a totally different, but interesting note. Did the AAFC just have horrible defenses?

Rk	Player		Year	Age	Tm	Lg	G	GS	Att	Yds	Y/A	TD	Y/G2	Joe Perry*	1949	22	SFO	AAFC	11	5	115	783	6.81	8	71.210	Chet Mutryn	1947	26	BUF	AAFC	14	14	140	868	6.20	9	62.012	Marion Motley*	1948	28	CLE	AAFC	14	14	157	964	6.14	5	68.913	Buddy Young	1947	21	NYY	AAFC	14	8	116	712	6.14	3	50.915	Marion Motley*	1947	27	CLE	AAFC	14	12	146	889	6.09	8	63.5

Defenses hadn't yet evolved. In fact, linebackers didn't come into vogue until the mid-fifties.