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Lombardi and Harbaugh to SF - *speculation* (1 Viewer)

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A league source tells Profootballtalk.com that the 49ers may ultimately not hire Trent Baalke as GM, and instead opt to pair Michael Lombardi with Jim Harbaugh as general manager and head coach.

"Lombardi and Harbaugh have a close relationship," the source said. "I think Lombardi is ending up there." Baalke was initially expected to be hired "within 48 hours" midway through last week, but it was never announced. Lombardi and Harbaugh also spent time together in Oakland, when Lombardi oversaw some personnel decisions and Harbaugh coached quarterbacks. It's a match that would likely be much more appealing to fans.

Source: Profootballtalk on NBC Sports

 
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:lmao: Can we "fire" the yorks while we are at it? :popcorn:
 
Not sure what is going to happen, but local news in Denver said John Elway is an honorary captain of Stanford tonight at the bowl game. Not so coincidentally, Elway is going to be named as the VP of Football Operations on Wednesday... and Denver is looking for a coach as well. IMHO, it's still kind of a crap shoot for whoever gets him, but I can tell you I wouldn't mind if he comes to Denver.

 
I don't know what his plans are with his website but I'll assume he won't write as much anymore if at all. It's been wonderful to read his thoughts and get real actual insight and not what we assume is good insight.

Many years ago, when people still "frequented" newsgroups, Ernie Accorsi would stop by from time to time and eventually would post through a regular. I still, 10-12 years later, remember a slew of things Ernie said.

Mike hired a quality staff so I'm figuring NFP is here to stay even without him and will be strong...it's just, well I'm glad he took the time to get it all started and share his thoughts with us

 
I don't know what his plans are with his website but I'll assume he won't write as much anymore if at all. It's been wonderful to read his thoughts and get real actual insight and not what we assume is good insight. Many years ago, when people still "frequented" newsgroups, Ernie Accorsi would stop by from time to time and eventually would post through a regular. I still, 10-12 years later, remember a slew of things Ernie said.Mike hired a quality staff so I'm figuring NFP is here to stay even without him and will be strong...it's just, well I'm glad he took the time to get it all started and share his thoughts with us
He left NFP for NFL.com a year ago, so it should not affect NFP any.
 
:unsure: Can we "fire" the yorks while we are at it? :lmao:
This is the biggest issue.The need to get the owners/front office to stop meddling with the coaching aspects.
I think the son has shown promise. He's starting to control more and more...he even talks to DeBartolo often. I'm not overly worried about the kid running things.
Someone close to the team once said of Jed last year: "The more he tries to be his Uncle, the more he looks like his Father". When in doubt, drop Uncle Eddie's name to reassure the fanbase. Then hire Baalke and Billck.
 
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He at least is trying (which is more than I could ever say of the father). How much and how quickly he learns are concerns...but he at least appears to be willing to learn. I won't be too harsh on him depending who he hires as GM/HC.

 
WTF...Lombardi said last week HE would not be hired in SanFran

and I agree with the Harbaugh>Michigan thoughts which would also derail this

 
He at least is trying (which is more than I could ever say of the father). How much and how quickly he learns are concerns...but he at least appears to be willing to learn. I won't be too harsh on him depending who he hires as GM/HC.
If he was really trying, he would stop being his father and let go of his sacred cows in the FO like Marathe. Jed isn't that good enough to not do damage to the team. He needs to stop thinking he can be the true GM of it, and let the real football people take over so he can sign checks. Jed having control already led to his first fire of an HC he chose. He can do worse damage with a GM of his choosing. Especially if he settles for a bad choice in HC like Daddy did because of his choice for GM.
 
didn't Gruden start his "coaching" career as a "gopher boy" in San Fran?
Yes...SF is one of the two teams (Cleve with Holmgren) that Deuce Gruden slipped out a few weeks ago.
 
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Dr. Awesome said:
He at least is trying (which is more than I could ever say of the father). How much and how quickly he learns are concerns...but he at least appears to be willing to learn. I won't be too harsh on him depending who he hires as GM/HC.
:confused: His dad just didn't care and mailed it in, which was the biggest problem.As to the OP, I'd be a little surprised if Lombardi is a serious candidate after he basically called the GM search a farce after his phone interview.
 
drummer said:
Dr. Awesome said:
He at least is trying (which is more than I could ever say of the father). How much and how quickly he learns are concerns...but he at least appears to be willing to learn. I won't be too harsh on him depending who he hires as GM/HC.
If he was really trying, he would stop being his father and let go of his sacred cows in the FO like Marathe. Jed isn't that good enough to not do damage to the team. He needs to stop thinking he can be the true GM of it, and let the real football people take over so he can sign checks. Jed having control already led to his first fire of an HC he chose. He can do worse damage with a GM of his choosing. Especially if he settles for a bad choice in HC like Daddy did because of his choice for GM.
There have been allegations that Marathe plays a lot of political games in the front office, but he's one of the best cap-guys in the business. With a strong GM or coach in place to keep him in check, I don't see why they need to dump him specifically.
 
Scrolling across the ESPN ticker it says the 9ers are wanting to speak to Marvin Lewis.

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drummer said:
Dr. Awesome said:
He at least is trying (which is more than I could ever say of the father). How much and how quickly he learns are concerns...but he at least appears to be willing to learn. I won't be too harsh on him depending who he hires as GM/HC.
If he was really trying, he would stop being his father and let go of his sacred cows in the FO like Marathe. Jed isn't that good enough to not do damage to the team. He needs to stop thinking he can be the true GM of it, and let the real football people take over so he can sign checks. Jed having control already led to his first fire of an HC he chose. He can do worse damage with a GM of his choosing. Especially if he settles for a bad choice in HC like Daddy did because of his choice for GM.
There have been allegations that Marathe plays a lot of political games in the front office, but he's one of the best cap-guys in the business. With a strong GM or coach in place to keep him in check, I don't see why they need to dump him specifically.
He's Jed's boy. Jed doesn't want anybody to keep him in check.
 
If Lombardi gets hired here, Josh McDaniels in some capacity won't be far behind. He couldn't stop praising him when he was at the NationalFootballPost.

 
If Lombardi gets hired here, Josh McDaniels in some capacity won't be far behind. He couldn't stop praising him when he was at the NationalFootballPost.
Has he taken enough of a fall where QB coach would be sufficient? Don't know if he has enough of a history to be able to jump back into an OC role.
 
Harbaugh has turned down interviews with Michigan and the Cleveland Browns according to Cleveland sports talk shoiw host Bruce Drennan.

 
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Harbaugh has turned down interviews with Michigan and the Cleveland Browns according to Cleveland sports talk shoiw host Bruce Drennan.
Not sure how much credit I put in a sports talk show host, but I have seen on ESPN that the likelihood of him going to Michigan is not so good. Makes me a sad panda... :thumbup:
 
Dolphins now in the mix:

http://blogs.sacbee.com/49ers/archives/201...ins-crashi.html

Dolphins crashing 49ers' Harbaugh party

Just when it looked like the 49ers were going to live happily ever after with Jim Harbaugh, the Miami Dolphins - a whole plane load of them - are swooping in to bust up the marriage. According to ESPN, Dolphins owner Steve Ross, general manager Jeff Ireland and Ross' right hand man, Carl Peterson, are due into the Bay Area tonight to meet with Harbaugh and his agent, Jack Bechta. Ross and Ireland attended Monday's Orange Bowl game in Miami.

According to the report, the Dolphins are prepared to make Harbaugh the highest-paid coach in the league with yearly salary between $7 and $8 million. The 49ers were believed to be negotiating based on the deal that former USC coach Pete Carroll struck with the Seahawks last year, one that pays him $6.5 million annually. The NFL Network, however, reported that the offer was $4.5 million a year.

While the 49ers fired their head coach on Dec. 27, the Dolphins have not (yet) fired their head coach, Tony Sparano. The team also has not conducted any "Rooney Rule" interviews that satisfy the league rule that the team interviews at least one minority candidate before making a hire. The 49ers interviewed Raiders offensive coordinator Hue Jackson Tuesday morning.

The 49ers have long been poised to make a quick run at Harbaugh. The Stanford coach met for most of the afternoon today with 49ers President Jed York and newly minted general manager Trent Baalke at an off-site location. Harbaugh has quickly become the hottest candidate this offseason and is even more in demand following a convincing Orange Bowl victory over Virginia Tech. The 49ers want him for several reasons - because he'll make a big splash with the fan base, because he's proven he can beat Carroll, whose Seahawks team won the division this year and because he's shown he can find and develop a quarterback, the 49ers No. 1 roster need this offseason.

But the 49ers appear to be Harbaugh's first choice, too. He already lives in the Bay Area and has a young family and a new baby. He also would bring many of his assistant coaches at Stanford with him to the the NFL, and they wouldn't have to be uprooted either if he took the 49ers job. Furthermore, the 49ers offensive roster - built in part by Baalke - meshes nicely with the type of offense that Harbaugh promises to run should he join the NFL.

The 49ers also are willing to concede significant control of the roster over to Harbaugh, who will be a first-time head coach. It seems as if York and the 49ers are in another who-blinks-first situation -- the 2009 Michael Crabtree saga being the other -- over money.

 
Mercury News

And if Harbaugh gets that mega-offer from Miami, the source said, the 49ers are unlikely to go dollar-for-dollar and would be prepared to move on from Harbaugh.

This should come to a head around noon tomorrow.

To that end, an NFL source indicated that York and Baalke already have had initial discussions with fired Denver coach Josh McDaniels.
:thumbup: shouldn't have signed the GM so quick

 
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Mercury News

And if Harbaugh gets that mega-offer from Miami, the source said, the 49ers are unlikely to go dollar-for-dollar and would be prepared to move on from Harbaugh.

This should come to a head around noon tomorrow.

To that end, an NFL source indicated that York and Baalke already have had initial discussions with fired Denver coach Josh McDaniels.
:thumbup: shouldn't have signed the GM so quick
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!

 
Mercury News

And if Harbaugh gets that mega-offer from Miami, the source said, the 49ers are unlikely to go dollar-for-dollar and would be prepared to move on from Harbaugh.

This should come to a head around noon tomorrow.

To that end, an NFL source indicated that York and Baalke already have had initial discussions with fired Denver coach Josh McDaniels.
:shrug: shouldn't have signed the GM so quick
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!
More likely as the OC; he might be able to make chicken salad out of that chicken(dodo) QB corp they have out there. Hey, maybe they bring in Josh and Orten...

 
Mercury News

And if Harbaugh gets that mega-offer from Miami, the source said, the 49ers are unlikely to go dollar-for-dollar and would be prepared to move on from Harbaugh.

This should come to a head around noon tomorrow.

To that end, an NFL source indicated that York and Baalke already have had initial discussions with fired Denver coach Josh McDaniels.
:shrug: shouldn't have signed the GM so quick
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!
More likely as the OC; he might be able to make chicken salad out of that chicken(dodo) QB corp they have out there. Hey, maybe they bring in Josh and Orten...
I'm ok with him as OC......but not HC....PLEASE!
 
Mercury News

And if Harbaugh gets that mega-offer from Miami, the source said, the 49ers are unlikely to go dollar-for-dollar and would be prepared to move on from Harbaugh.

This should come to a head around noon tomorrow.

To that end, an NFL source indicated that York and Baalke already have had initial discussions with fired Denver coach Josh McDaniels.
:shrug: shouldn't have signed the GM so quick
Ugh. Come on, Harbaugh!
 
I still think if Harbaugh to the 49ers falls through that he ends up at Michigan. The two major things everyone thought the 49ers would have an advantage on were money and location. Michigan will likely pay 4-6 mil, so if he is moving across the country anyway I think he takes that over a place like Miami where he wouldn't have full control anyway.

 
I'm so glad this drama is over today. The amount of hype the Bay Area is giving Harbaugh is sick. They are treating it as though anything other than Harbaugh is a total failure. To me, it's pretty transparent that the Bay Area media is setting York up for a massive PR hit. Either he passes on Harbaugh and is labeled an all talk puff that can't hang with the big boys or he shells out an obscene amount of money, Harbaugh busts as he's more likely than not to do, and York's labeled as a poor decision maker with no eye for talent.

 
I'm so glad this drama is over today. The amount of hype the Bay Area is giving Harbaugh is sick. They are treating it as though anything other than Harbaugh is a total failure. To me, it's pretty transparent that the Bay Area media is setting York up for a massive PR hit. Either he passes on Harbaugh and is labeled an all talk puff that can't hang with the big boys or he shells out an obscene amount of money, Harbaugh busts as he's more likely than not to do, and York's labeled as a poor decision maker with no eye for talent.
Not so sure I agree with your take. The media hasn't done this, Jed has.The current generation of 49er ticket holders grew up spoiled by the 80s-90s, 5 rings and 17 straight 10 win seasons. Most of these guys know nothing about the Joe Thomas era and the tough days...and these guys are not handling this decade of losing well. They want York to fix it NOW. These fans are pissed about 2010. Jed promised a division title and playoffs. Now he's promised to get the best coach available to get the team back to the top of the NFL. Jed has identified this coach as Harbaugh. I think it would be a total failure for Jed to lose Harbaugh--especially if its over money, as Jed's Daddy was notorious for refusing to spend money.This is a big ####### deal for Jed. It either gives him respect with the win now fans, or he loses what little he had to begin with.
 
I'm in the win now crowd and am fine if they don't snag Harbaugh. But I do NOT want McDaniels.
Agreed.I think a big part of the appeal of Harbaugh is that if we don't get him....what will Jed pull out of his butt as Plan B? I have little faith in Young Yorkie. JMO

Update: Looks like the reports are the money is the issue now. Jason LaCanfora is reporting 49ers offered only 4.5 mil, Harbaugh seeking $6.5 mil. And now reports are Dolphins owner and GM are flying in to sway Harbaugh to the Dolphins for $7mil…looks like Jim may not be bringing us ring number 6….

Nothing official out of 49ers camp, but we heard from someone who was at the undiclosed location (Marriott in Burlingame) that Jed, Baalke, and Harbaugh were meeting at. The three of them and others met in one of the conference rooms. It was overheard that Jed told Harbaugh, ‘You are bringing us number 6.’ Meaning ring number 6 for the 49ers. Lots of smiles and handshakes.

Now I don’t expect everyone to believe me, which is fine. I understand. But I’m standing by my source in that the 49ers will come to terms with Jim Harbaugh and an official announcement should come soon.

I’d expect a press conference to be scheduled for tomorrow (possibly Friday), introducing both Trent Baalke as GM and Jim Harbaugh as new HC
 
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I'm so glad this drama is over today. The amount of hype the Bay Area is giving Harbaugh is sick. They are treating it as though anything other than Harbaugh is a total failure. To me, it's pretty transparent that the Bay Area media is setting York up for a massive PR hit. Either he passes on Harbaugh and is labeled an all talk puff that can't hang with the big boys or he shells out an obscene amount of money, Harbaugh busts as he's more likely than not to do, and York's labeled as a poor decision maker with no eye for talent.
The Media set this up? Jed from Day 1 since he hired, and then had to fire Singletary has screwed this up since his Parents threw him out there as Prez. All this is Jed's doing. He should have kept his fat mouth shut, and did this low key. He lied about the GM search, and now the Big Boys in the NFL are throwing him around like a rag doll. Jed made his bed by opening his big mouth and Twitter app. The Media is just doing it's job.
 
Do the fans really want him to make Harbaugh the highest paid coach in the NFL? It's almost at the point of no return, but I think that's a bit crazy myself.

 

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