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Looking for advice for superflex+IDP auction draft (1 Viewer)

fooserman55

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Have a superflex+IDP auction draft coming up this weekend. Just wondered if anyone with experience had any thoughts on salary allocation. $200 cap, drafting 30 players. 2 QB, 4 RB, 4 WR, 1 TE, 2 DEF, 1 W/R/T, 1 Q/W/R/T, 5 LB, 5 IDP, 5 bench. Linebackers can be used in IDP slots. Scoring favors QB, RB, LB, WR, IDP, DEF, TE in that order. I want to end up with 3 starting QB but am open to 2 QB plus a bench QB with good possibilities of becoming a starter down the road (Flacco, Fields, O'Connell, McCarthy). I've done $200 salary cap drafts before but not with this many slots to fill and not with this mix.
 
Here are my thoughts as I understand it
You Start 13 off players
You start 12 DEF players
5 Bench players.

1. Get other teams to bid up early in the draft. 1st 3rd Comment about what a value the player is for $3-4 more. Great pick you were going to scoop in last second. This why get people out of money early
2. Below is methodology for the league you described
3. This layout presents several key things. 5 BN spots for 25 starters! 13OFF starters, 12DEF starters 15 of each total is my recommendation. You'll probably have to make adjustments to budgets below knowing that people will pay more for OFF players. vs DEF/IDPs. $120/OFF and $80/def. I think teams will be out of money for LBs when it comes time to draft.
4. TE- Taysom Hill could present extreme value for QB/RB scoring as TE... in a league that devalues TE. Target him specifically and only for your TE.
5. DEF Bye weeks. You can start with 3 and drop after Early BYE weeks. Having a roster spot to play with later.
6. People will spend early. You'll win by getting better players in the middle of the draft probably WRs, LBs. RBs
7. If this is a 10team league. There are 300 players. $2000 total. Keep running totals overall, by position, by team.
8. Know who's out there and your value targets. I agree 3QB approach is best.
9. WRT flex should be RB, So carry at least 5RB and 5WRs for BYE week flex. Goal is to not leave points sitting on the bench.
10. You're going to outbid teams by $1-2 on value players and put yourself in position to win. People will expect tog et LBs IDPS etc for $1-2 after they blow their money.
11. LBs draft about 12. Put them in IDP slots. Have 2 Bench spots for LBs. Start 10 LB each week.
12. BENCH allocation: DEF3, WR5, RB5, LB11, LB12. After Week 7, You can drop a DEFD and take RB6QB4 etc.
13. BN Spots kind of a premium. People will have empty starting spots or be add/dropping players. I'm not sure what's that like.
14. 300 players will be drafted. There will be value in WRs QBs. Value doesn't always mean winner.



#1 You want to be in the bottom 1/3 of money spent during the 1st 1/3 of the draft. While still filling key positions and getting decent players.
If 60 players have been drafted and $1000 already spent. Teams have spent 1/2 their money. But only drafted 20% of the players they need. They're running out of money.
Was this from 2-3 teams or was it even across the league? That matters. If only a few teams shot their wad. Fine. Still plenty of players out there to bid-up another player.

Be a cheerleader encouraging people to bid. Then reassure them it was a good move...that you were tempted. Do it naturally, in your own style.
CMC with a calf strain is worth 2 healthy pachecos.
"you're paying for a 10pt weekly positional advantage. It's probably worth the $3-$4 more to have him instead of an extra bench player"
Somebody bid on this guy... before I have to on principle alone.
After the pick. Man I'm kicking myself for not bidding.
As the timer runs down... Wait Wait Wait... Should I do it? Should I do it?
Crap.. I chickened out.
If the bid is $20... "Oh man I have him valued at $30.... $25 would still be a bargain. " I can't bid I only budgets $19 for this position in my roster.
Great Pick. It was worth it.
Talk up TEs because they have less value and you want people paying premium for TE. aka lowest scoring position.
Make sure people feel like they're winning. If it was tough decision. Reassure them. So they're not regretting it. Be jealous of their roster. self deprecating about yours.

2. $200 for 30 players is $6.66/player average. $2000 total for a league with 10 teams.
You want to know how much a team has spent. What positions they're invested in.
Create a little cheat chart for each team. Budget Spent/Budget Remaining. Positional Values.
Everyone is gets the same chart but may fill it differently.

Your Budget is
QB $9.66 X 3 = $29 Budget
RB $8.6 x 5 = $43 budget
LB 7.66 x 6 = $46 Budget
WR $6.66 x 5 = $33 budget
IDP $5.66 x 6 (Draft cheaper LBs) $33 budget
DEF $4.66 x3 = $13 budget
TE $3.66 x 1 x $3 Budget

QB +$3, RB +$2, LB +$1, WR+$0, IDP-$1, DEF-$2, TE-$3.
QBs will simply have a premium. You might need to go more than the budget outline above. There are only 32 Starting QBs. There are many many more other players. Borrow from those positions to get your value QBs.

Value QB Starters
Watson, RWIlson, BMayfield, KCousins, Bryce Young, Herbert, Stafford, Tua?, NEP QB, MIN QB, DCarr, DJones, Levis.... possibly Tannehill or some Vet QB in LV?
Don't overspend on QB. But get a QB1, QB2, QB3.

Track Money spent.
You've been tracking the $$$$ for the league and position.
Half way mark is $1000 spent.
QBs $300 x12 drafted
RB $200 x12 drafted
LB $200 x 7 Drafted
WR $120 x -9 drafted
IDP $50 -6 drafted
DEF $30 -1 drafted
TE $100 - 3 drafted
Scenario above: Half of the money spent on 50 players of 300 drafted.
Where's the money coming from just a few teams or evenly across the board.
How much money do you have left $90? you're below par. $150 well above par.... par = about $100
How's your roster looking? Have you been able to get any key players yet?
Will there be enough players left to hit your targets?
How much competition will there be for positions you need.

My guess is you can outbid people on LBs. IDPs. This will be cheaper than outbdding on QB/WR/RB.
Are you getting your Tier1 Tier1 players?
Are other owners expecting to just win an auction at $1dollar after they blow their wad?
If there's 12 QB1s in your top tier and only remain. It might be worth going slightly over budget to make sure you get one. OR if you like the remaining QB2 in Tier2. You can theoretically bid up on 2 decent ones there.

QB/LB combined budget is $75. If you get a T1 QB. For $30... Instead of $20...
If you overspend target $$$ on QBs early because you're forced to. That's OK jut can't go as high on LB.
You'll probably get some LBs for $3, $2, $5, $1, = $11 of the $46. leaving $35. If your QB spot needs $12 extra bucks. You still have $13, $10 to 2x LBs.

Prioritize Filling QB, RB, LB Slots.
I don't know the order of when people bid on players. Do you just get in like a draft order and say a player's name and see who bids? Do you go down a ranking list.
There will be ROOKIE WRs and tons of WR depth. I think good players can be had.
TE just focus on Taysom Hill for cheap.
During his BYE week. Don't replace him. Just leave the slot empty.

Draft 12 LBs but divide up in Top 6... Starting 5 + 1 and starting 5 IDPs +1 spend accordingly.
This should give you an advantage.
Players like A.Winfield Jr Gets a lot of tackles and could be valuable IDP DB

DEF
Draft DEF (best options with Early BYES0 5,6, 7 weeks.
They don't get injured.
Drop 1 of the DEF after week 7 and you've got an extra bench spot.
Bid on DEFs based on that.


You need to ID value QBs
Weight it for QB1, QB2 QB3. with target budget.
$30... QB1 $15, QB2 $10, QB3 $5
Value QBs =Watson, RWIlson, BMayfield, KCousins, Bryce Young, Herbert, Stafford, Tua?, NEP QB, MIN QB, DCarr, DJones, Levis.... possibly Tannehill or some Vet QB in LV?

You have to do this with every category:
I don't understand this though 5 LBs & 5 IDP... 10 IDPs essentially?
$200 isn't a lot of money for 25 players.

The entire draft! This is important. Keep telling guys in the first 3-5 rounds how they should bid higher. They got a great deal. That's a difference maker player. Worth it regardless. You just bought yourself a 10pt per week advantage. Burn their money out.
Get value players for less after everyone's shot their wad.
You'll be able to outbid players by $1 on all of the other positions if you want.
Talk up the TEs especially... Since scoring doesn't favor them.
Laporta, McBride, for $25 .... may offer 5pt/week scoring advantage. But maybe you make that up with LB 4, LB5, for $5.
Maybe you make it up with Taysom Hill throwing a TD or Rushing for TD.
 
Here are my thoughts as I understand it
You Start 13 off players
You start 12 DEF players
5 Bench players.

1. Get other teams to bid up early in the draft. 1st 3rd Comment about what a value the player is for $3-4 more. Great pick you were going to scoop in last second. This why get people out of money early
2. Below is methodology for the league you described
3. This layout presents several key things. 5 BN spots for 25 starters! 13OFF starters, 12DEF starters 15 of each total is my recommendation. You'll probably have to make adjustments to budgets below knowing that people will pay more for OFF players. vs DEF/IDPs. $120/OFF and $80/def. I think teams will be out of money for LBs when it comes time to draft.
4. TE- Taysom Hill could present extreme value for QB/RB scoring as TE... in a league that devalues TE. Target him specifically and only for your TE.
5. DEF Bye weeks. You can start with 3 and drop after Early BYE weeks. Having a roster spot to play with later.
6. People will spend early. You'll win by getting better players in the middle of the draft probably WRs, LBs. RBs
7. If this is a 10team league. There are 300 players. $2000 total. Keep running totals overall, by position, by team.
8. Know who's out there and your value targets. I agree 3QB approach is best.
9. WRT flex should be RB, So carry at least 5RB and 5WRs for BYE week flex. Goal is to not leave points sitting on the bench.
10. You're going to outbid teams by $1-2 on value players and put yourself in position to win. People will expect tog et LBs IDPS etc for $1-2 after they blow their money.
11. LBs draft about 12. Put them in IDP slots. Have 2 Bench spots for LBs. Start 10 LB each week.
12. BENCH allocation: DEF3, WR5, RB5, LB11, LB12. After Week 7, You can drop a DEFD and take RB6QB4 etc.
13. BN Spots kind of a premium. People will have empty starting spots or be add/dropping players. I'm not sure what's that like.
14. 300 players will be drafted. There will be value in WRs QBs. Value doesn't always mean winner.



#1 You want to be in the bottom 1/3 of money spent during the 1st 1/3 of the draft. While still filling key positions and getting decent players.
If 60 players have been drafted and $1000 already spent. Teams have spent 1/2 their money. But only drafted 20% of the players they need. They're running out of money.
Was this from 2-3 teams or was it even across the league? That matters. If only a few teams shot their wad. Fine. Still plenty of players out there to bid-up another player.

Be a cheerleader encouraging people to bid. Then reassure them it was a good move...that you were tempted. Do it naturally, in your own style.
CMC with a calf strain is worth 2 healthy pachecos.
"you're paying for a 10pt weekly positional advantage. It's probably worth the $3-$4 more to have him instead of an extra bench player"
Somebody bid on this guy... before I have to on principle alone.
After the pick. Man I'm kicking myself for not bidding.
As the timer runs down... Wait Wait Wait... Should I do it? Should I do it?
Crap.. I chickened out.
If the bid is $20... "Oh man I have him valued at $30.... $25 would still be a bargain. " I can't bid I only budgets $19 for this position in my roster.
Great Pick. It was worth it.
Talk up TEs because they have less value and you want people paying premium for TE. aka lowest scoring position.
Make sure people feel like they're winning. If it was tough decision. Reassure them. So they're not regretting it. Be jealous of their roster. self deprecating about yours.

2. $200 for 30 players is $6.66/player average. $2000 total for a league with 10 teams.
You want to know how much a team has spent. What positions they're invested in.
Create a little cheat chart for each team. Budget Spent/Budget Remaining. Positional Values.
Everyone is gets the same chart but may fill it differently.

Your Budget is
QB $9.66 X 3 = $29 Budget
RB $8.6 x 5 = $43 budget
LB 7.66 x 6 = $46 Budget
WR $6.66 x 5 = $33 budget
IDP $5.66 x 6 (Draft cheaper LBs) $33 budget
DEF $4.66 x3 = $13 budget
TE $3.66 x 1 x $3 Budget

QB +$3, RB +$2, LB +$1, WR+$0, IDP-$1, DEF-$2, TE-$3.
QBs will simply have a premium. You might need to go more than the budget outline above. There are only 32 Starting QBs. There are many many more other players. Borrow from those positions to get your value QBs.

Value QB Starters
Watson, RWIlson, BMayfield, KCousins, Bryce Young, Herbert, Stafford, Tua?, NEP QB, MIN QB, DCarr, DJones, Levis.... possibly Tannehill or some Vet QB in LV?
Don't overspend on QB. But get a QB1, QB2, QB3.

Track Money spent.
You've been tracking the $$$$ for the league and position.
Half way mark is $1000 spent.
QBs $300 x12 drafted
RB $200 x12 drafted
LB $200 x 7 Drafted
WR $120 x -9 drafted
IDP $50 -6 drafted
DEF $30 -1 drafted
TE $100 - 3 drafted
Scenario above: Half of the money spent on 50 players of 300 drafted.
Where's the money coming from just a few teams or evenly across the board.
How much money do you have left $90? you're below par. $150 well above par.... par = about $100
How's your roster looking? Have you been able to get any key players yet?
Will there be enough players left to hit your targets?
How much competition will there be for positions you need.

My guess is you can outbid people on LBs. IDPs. This will be cheaper than outbdding on QB/WR/RB.
Are you getting your Tier1 Tier1 players?
Are other owners expecting to just win an auction at $1dollar after they blow their wad?
If there's 12 QB1s in your top tier and only remain. It might be worth going slightly over budget to make sure you get one. OR if you like the remaining QB2 in Tier2. You can theoretically bid up on 2 decent ones there.

QB/LB combined budget is $75. If you get a T1 QB. For $30... Instead of $20...
If you overspend target $$$ on QBs early because you're forced to. That's OK jut can't go as high on LB.
You'll probably get some LBs for $3, $2, $5, $1, = $11 of the $46. leaving $35. If your QB spot needs $12 extra bucks. You still have $13, $10 to 2x LBs.

Prioritize Filling QB, RB, LB Slots.
I don't know the order of when people bid on players. Do you just get in like a draft order and say a player's name and see who bids? Do you go down a ranking list.
There will be ROOKIE WRs and tons of WR depth. I think good players can be had.
TE just focus on Taysom Hill for cheap.
During his BYE week. Don't replace him. Just leave the slot empty.

Draft 12 LBs but divide up in Top 6... Starting 5 + 1 and starting 5 IDPs +1 spend accordingly.
This should give you an advantage.
Players like A.Winfield Jr Gets a lot of tackles and could be valuable IDP DB

DEF
Draft DEF (best options with Early BYES0 5,6, 7 weeks.
They don't get injured.
Drop 1 of the DEF after week 7 and you've got an extra bench spot.
Bid on DEFs based on that.


You need to ID value QBs
Weight it for QB1, QB2 QB3. with target budget.
$30... QB1 $15, QB2 $10, QB3 $5
Value QBs =Watson, RWIlson, BMayfield, KCousins, Bryce Young, Herbert, Stafford, Tua?, NEP QB, MIN QB, DCarr, DJones, Levis.... possibly Tannehill or some Vet QB in LV?

You have to do this with every category:
I don't understand this though 5 LBs & 5 IDP... 10 IDPs essentially?
$200 isn't a lot of money for 25 players.

The entire draft! This is important. Keep telling guys in the first 3-5 rounds how they should bid higher. They got a great deal. That's a difference maker player. Worth it regardless. You just bought yourself a 10pt per week advantage. Burn their money out.
Get value players for less after everyone's shot their wad.
You'll be able to outbid players by $1 on all of the other positions if you want.
Talk up the TEs especially... Since scoring doesn't favor them.
Laporta, McBride, for $25 .... may offer 5pt/week scoring advantage. But maybe you make that up with LB 4, LB5, for $5.
Maybe you make it up with Taysom Hill throwing a TD or Rushing for TD.
It's a 12 team league, but I can extrapolate the figures you gave me to compensate.
Taysom Hill is listed as a QB. I'm seeing that in a lot of the leagues I am in this year.
Drafting all LBs is great! Something I contemplated, but the more I think about it, the more I like it. The only problem may be something I experienced last year where after the first five, they start filling the bench spots and not the "D" spots. I may have to wait to draft my last ones until after I have filled my bench.
I hadn't thought about the early bye team defenses, but it makes sense.

Really appreciate your insights!
 

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