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Looks like Haslett will get Det Job per Clayton (1 Viewer)

UFO

Footballguy
I actually think Haslett got a bad rap in NO. With the ####ty ownership and the draft mess Ditka left this guy was competetive most years and won the first playoff game for NO.In Det he inherits some decent talent in Roy and Kevin Jones. A decent D.I think Haslett who is more hard nosed than previous coaches will get Det to perform.What does this hire do to Kev Jones value? Deuce and Ricky had decent years in NO and Haslett never used a RBBC, even when he had both Deuce and Ricky on the team.Also anyone else think Kev Jones looked good this year when he got some opportunities to get into a rythm with more than 10 carries?Thoughts

 

harrison74

Footballguy
Man, what a terrible hire. Haslett had an abundance of talent in NO; that wasnt an issue, and he never did anything with it other than stage late seaosn rallies after they were eliminated fomr playoff contention....i just cant believe Haslett is mentioned for vacancies...

 

sho nuff

Footballguy
Notice how Deuce was not always used when they got near the goalline...notice how Deuce would be on a roll and the Saints would then throw the ball 3 straight times....now think about what that will do to Kevin Jones.The guy has been a terrible coach for years....

 

Fumbleweed

Footballguy
Haslett may indeed be harder nosed than Mariucci, but by and large, I don't think most consider him to be much of a disciplinarian ala Parcells.

 

John 14:6

Jesus is Lord!
I actually think Haslett got a bad rap in NO. With the ####ty ownership and the draft mess Ditka left this guy was competetive most years and won the first playoff game for NO.
Detroit's ownership and draft history aren't much better...
 

valhallan

Footballguy
Notice how Deuce was not always used when they got near the goalline...notice how Deuce would be on a roll and the Saints would then throw the ball 3 straight times....now think about what that will do to Kevin Jones.
Actually, you can thank Mike McCarthy for those calls.
 

mozzy84

Footballguy
Notice how Deuce was not always used when they got near the goalline...notice how Deuce would be on a roll and the Saints would then throw the ball 3 straight times....now think about what that will do to Kevin Jones.
Actually, you can thank Mike McCarthy for those calls.
:goodposting:
 

Jason Wood

Zoo York
Haslett had talent in New Orleans but his teams NEVER seemed to improve on past mistakesHaslett is a defensive coach by trade yet the Saints defense was horrendous despite spending considerable draft focus and free ageny $$$ to fix the problem:X at the Lions re-tread if this turns out to be the case.

 

Payne

Footballguy
Haslett had talent in New Orleans but his teams NEVER seemed to improve on past mistakes

Haslett is a defensive coach by trade yet the Saints defense was horrendous despite spending considerable draft focus and free ageny $$$ to fix the problem

:X at the Lions re-tread if this turns out to be the case.
I agree Jason.As you know, I wasn't thrilled with Grimm either. But Haslett just doesn't seem to be the answer.

 

beto

Footballguy
Haslett had talent in New Orleans but his teams NEVER seemed to improve on past mistakes

Haslett is a defensive coach by trade yet the Saints defense was horrendous despite spending considerable draft focus and free ageny $$$ to fix the problem

:X at the Lions re-tread if this turns out to be the case.
I agree. This would be yet another mistake for the Lions.
 

Aaronstory

Footballguy
Notice how Deuce was not always used when they got near the goalline...notice how Deuce would be on a roll and the Saints would then throw the ball 3 straight times....now think about what that will do to Kevin Jones.
Actually, you can thank Mike McCarthy for those calls.
:goodposting: :cry:

 

Jason Wood

Zoo York
Haslett had talent in New Orleans but his teams NEVER seemed to improve on past mistakes

Haslett is a defensive coach by trade yet the Saints defense was horrendous despite spending considerable draft focus and free ageny $$$ to fix the problem

:X at the Lions re-tread if this turns out to be the case.
I agree Jason.As you know, I wasn't thrilled with Grimm either. But Haslett just doesn't seem to be the answer.
Hey Payne, the fact Grimm is no longer in the hunt certainly lends credence to your assertion that he needs more seasoning. Well done. As to Haslett, I just don't understand the obsession. But to be fair, Bill Belichick once was thought of that way post-Cleveland and Pete Carroll was thought of that way prior to USC. Things can change in a new environment.
 

Payne

Footballguy
Haslett had talent in New Orleans but his teams NEVER seemed to improve on past mistakes

Haslett is a defensive coach by trade yet the Saints defense was horrendous despite spending considerable draft focus and free ageny $$$ to fix the problem

:X at the Lions re-tread if this turns out to be the case.
I agree Jason.As you know, I wasn't thrilled with Grimm either. But Haslett just doesn't seem to be the answer.
Hey Payne, the fact Grimm is no longer in the hunt certainly lends credence to your assertion that he needs more seasoning. Well done. As to Haslett, I just don't understand the obsession. But to be fair, Bill Belichick once was thought of that way post-Cleveland and Pete Carroll was thought of that way prior to USC. Things can change in a new environment.
In my opinion, I think Millen folded to the pressures of the NFL.I believe he wants Grimm. But some strong rumors are flowing that the NFL is pushing him hard to hire a coach prior to the Super Bowl.

If Millen was a believer in Grimm, he would tell the NFL to shove it and hire who he believes is the best man for the job.

Edit: Also, this allows him to go to Mr. Ford 2 or 3 years down the line and proclaim "This is not the guy I wanted. I wanted Grimm."

A lot of people question Millens intelligence. I think the man is brilliant.

He has mastered the art of job security.

 
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Jimmy James

Footballguy
If you ask me, the Lions seriously erred by not bringing in Brad Childress. He was the one guy in my book who could have picked up with an offense at least partially in place while serving notice to this bunch of whiny underperforming players that things were going to change. They messed up and let him get hired in their own division, and I cannot see now who they are going to hire who is going to be able to make this end well.My heart goes out to all Lions fans because it looks like it's going to be between them and the Saints for league laughing stock for the next decade.

 

valhallan

Footballguy
Haslett had talent in New Orleans but his teams NEVER seemed to improve on past mistakes
Yes, they were very undisciplined. I think the common concensus is that he let the inmates run the asylum.
Haslett is a defensive coach by trade yet the Saints defense was horrendous despite spending considerable draft focus and free ageny $$$ to fix the problem
Disagree a bit here. They only used their first-round draft picks on D-linemen, all of whom have been great (well, except Tubby O'Sullivan). They took 4 years to address the secondary by trading for McKenzie and then grabbing D.Smith in free agency. But the one glaring need, linebacker, was never a priority in the draft or in free agency. Perhaps Haslett thought he could build low-round talents like Bockwoldt and Watson into playmakers, but it just wasn't enough.But anyway, I'd be surprised if the Lions don't have a discipline problem soon.
 

Payne

Footballguy
Haslett had talent in New Orleans but his teams NEVER seemed to improve on past mistakes
Yes, they were very undisciplined. I think the common concensus is that he let the inmates run the asylum.
Haslett is a defensive coach by trade yet the Saints defense was horrendous despite spending considerable draft focus and free ageny $$$ to fix the problem
Disagree a bit here. They only used their first-round draft picks on D-linemen, all of whom have been great (well, except Tubby O'Sullivan). They took 4 years to address the secondary by trading for McKenzie and then grabbing D.Smith in free agency. But the one glaring need, linebacker, was never a priority in the draft or in free agency. Perhaps Haslett thought he could build low-round talents like Bockwoldt and Watson into playmakers, but it just wasn't enough.But anyway, I'd be surprised if the Lions don't have a discipline problem soon.
They have one now.
 

guderian

Footballguy
I think Haslett could be a good coach, but I also think that he needs to work a year or two as a DC under a better coach to learn lessons about discipline and to recognize mistakes and adjust. As a coach he was the anti-Belicheck--because he loved talented, but dumb players. That will make him a very interesting fit with Detroit because the team seems to be loaded with talented, but un-disciplined and dumb players. Haslett really needs to take a step back and re-charge his batteries IMO.

 

Arm Chair Express

Footballguy
I've been praying this wouldn't happen! Its not a done deal yet, so I guess there is a chance it won't but its not looking good. Why would they fire Mooch and hire a guy with a worse record to be your head coach? The NFL needs to let the Fords move their franchise to LA and grant us a new one!

 
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Cunning Linguist

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Millen must have been watching when the Sunday night crew said that Haslett should be coach of the year.

 

houndirish

Footballguy
Has Haslett passed Marinelli in this race? Originally I heard Grimm was the leading candidate. Then I heard both Haslett and Marinelli had caught up to him. Of the three methinks Grimm is the best choice as the Lions have underachieved at O-Line and you have to figure that will at least stop if they bring Grimm in.I simply don't understand how Haslett can even be a commodity at this point. Undisciplined play and poor hires were his trademark in New Orleans. Haslett was high on Venturi as a D-Coordinator when the rest of the league knew he sucked. Haslett wouldn't play Jake Delhomme over Brooks, even when Brooks had a bum shoulder, since he felt it would appear as though he was caving to media pressure. Haslett did a great job in year 1 with the Saints but has done horribly since.

 

Payne

Footballguy
Has Haslett passed Marinelli in this race? Originally I heard Grimm was the leading candidate. Then I heard both Haslett and Marinelli had caught up to him. Of the three methinks Grimm is the best choice as the Lions have underachieved at O-Line and you have to figure that will at least stop if they bring Grimm in.

I simply don't understand how Haslett can even be a commodity at this point. Undisciplined play and poor hires were his trademark in New Orleans. Haslett was high on Venturi as a D-Coordinator when the rest of the league knew he sucked. Haslett wouldn't play Jake Delhomme over Brooks, even when Brooks had a bum shoulder, since he felt it would appear as though he was caving to media pressure.

Haslett did a great job in year 1 with the Saints but has done horribly since.
Yes. However, Millen and the Fords like Marinelli better. Experience seems to be pushing Haslett to the front of the line.

 

lionsroar

Footballguy
Why Tim Lewis isn't a leading candidate for this job is beyond me!!! If there was one coach that we absolutely don't need, its Haslett. When I watch New Orleans play its like watching a Lions game- Mirror images of eachother. Tim Lewis, Tim Lewis, Tim Lewis, ****ing Tim Lewis should be are next coach. I can't handle being a fan of this joke of a team anymore!!!

 

houndirish

Footballguy
Why Tim Lewis isn't a leading candidate for this job is beyond me!!! If there was one coach that we absolutely don't need, its Haslett. When I watch New Orleans play its like watching a Lions game- Mirror images of eachother. Tim Lewis, Tim Lewis, Tim Lewis, ****ing Tim Lewis should be are next coach. I can't handle being a fan of this joke of a team anymore!!!
Ron Rivera would be a good hire too, assuming the Rams don't hire him. I'm a bit surprised Detroit didn't pursue him aggressively. He'll be a good head coach and it would weaken the Bears.
 

jwb1013

Footballguy
I've been praying this wouldn't happen! Its not a done deal yet, so I guess there is a chance it won't but its not looking good. Why would they fire Mooch and hire a guy with a worse record to be your head coach? The NFL needs to let the Fords move their franchise to LA and grant us a new one!
:goodposting:
 

John Maddens Lunchbox

Socialism for Dummies
Clayton eh. Hasn't he missed badly on a lot of stuff lately?Someone's feeding him bad infor to make him look stupid? Maybe another case of that or maybe the Lions hire Haslett :lmao:

 

Jason Wood

Zoo York
I know this isn't lost on most of the Shark Poolers, but it still needs to be said...IF Haslett lands in DET, Kevin Jones' fate will lie much more in the hands of Haslett's yet unnamed offensive coordinator than it will Haslett.Let's not forget all the "Jauron is going to make Kevin Jones MONEY down the stretch" when I begged people to remember that Jauron is a defensive guy and would have absolutely no impact on KJ's fate.

 

blend

Footballguy
Haslett was supposed to be in Detroit today, but apparently was still at home in NO...

Wonder if the Marinelli interviews went really well so as to tell Haslett to just stay there...

http://www.mlive.com/weblogs/highlightreel..._01.html#106114

From Kowalski:

4:21 p.m. - TomKowalski: About Haslett ... we might not know for a couple of hours if this is significant or not ... if haslett doesn't catch a flight for detroit tonight, i think it's a strong indication that marinelli's the guy ... however, there have been travel arrangement snafus in the past that didn't have any significance ... i know that millen told haslett last night that everything was set for him to come into town today and that he'd meet ford on thursday ... stay tuned ...

 

Payne

Footballguy
Newest rumor has Grimm with the job offer and Marinelli being interviewed as the DC.Also Saunders would be pursued HEAVILY if not given a head coaching position.

 

Getinthemix

Footballguy
Has Haslett passed Marinelli in this race?  Originally I heard Grimm was the leading candidate.  Then I heard both Haslett and Marinelli had caught up to him.  Of the three methinks Grimm is the best choice as the Lions have underachieved at O-Line and you have to figure that will at least stop if they bring Grimm in.

I simply don't understand how Haslett can even be a commodity at this point.  Undisciplined play and poor hires were his trademark in New Orleans.  Haslett was high on Venturi as a D-Coordinator when the rest of the league knew he sucked.  Haslett wouldn't play Jake Delhomme over Brooks, even when Brooks had a bum shoulder, since he felt it would appear as though he was caving to media pressure. 

Haslett did a great job in year 1 with the Saints but has done horribly since.
Yes. However, Millen and the Fords like Marinelli better. Experience seems to be pushing Haslett to the front of the line.
If Millen and the Fords like Marinelli better then why do they not offer him the job? Who else would have a say in it?
 

bigfishboy

Footballguy
I am a little late to the thread, and it appears haslett wont make it, but I had something that had to be said.If Haslett would wind up in Detroit, who else thinks he would have made an attempt to get Aaron Brooks there? Brooks is on the outs in NO and could be available. And lord knows Haslett has a woody for his little butt buddy. There has to be some sort of extracurricular relationship between the two, how many times did Haslett say "we are going to run more" only to give the ball to his love slave? How many seasons of Ricky and Duece did he ruin by the horrendous play calling. And dont give me that line about "it was the OC's fault." The OC reports to the head coach.

 

The Hank

Footballguy
:unsure: <--- clayton
lol, hasn't he been wrong on quite a few of his HC picks this offseason?
:X Green Bay, KC, and now Detroit. If Houston doesn't hire Kubiak, Clayton's going to throw himself off a bridge.
it reminds me of that psychic one show... the one with that john edwards guy?--Crossing Over: With John Edwards--

--Coaching Over: With John Clayton--

"Now Matt Millen... I see a coach in your future... he's been affiliated with football before..."

 

sho nuff

Footballguy
Notice how Deuce was not always used when they got near the goalline...notice how Deuce would be on a roll and the Saints would then throw the ball 3 straight times....now think about what that will do to Kevin Jones.
Actually, you can thank Mike McCarthy for those calls.
Perhaps...never really know who had the final say...
 

valhallan

Footballguy
Notice how Deuce was not always used when they got near the goalline...notice how Deuce would be on a roll and the Saints would then throw the ball 3 straight times....now think about what that will do to Kevin Jones.
Actually, you can thank Mike McCarthy for those calls.
Perhaps...never really know who had the final say...
On offense, it was McCarthy.But hey, I'm not saying Haslett would be any better

 

Payne

Footballguy
Has Haslett passed Marinelli in this race?  Originally I heard Grimm was the leading candidate.  Then I heard both Haslett and Marinelli had caught up to him.  Of the three methinks Grimm is the best choice as the Lions have underachieved at O-Line and you have to figure that will at least stop if they bring Grimm in.

I simply don't understand how Haslett can even be a commodity at this point.  Undisciplined play and poor hires were his trademark in New Orleans.  Haslett was high on Venturi as a D-Coordinator when the rest of the league knew he sucked.  Haslett wouldn't play Jake Delhomme over Brooks, even when Brooks had a bum shoulder, since he felt it would appear as though he was caving to media pressure. 

Haslett did a great job in year 1 with the Saints but has done horribly since.
Yes. However, Millen and the Fords like Marinelli better. Experience seems to be pushing Haslett to the front of the line.
If Millen and the Fords like Marinelli better then why do they not offer him the job? Who else would have a say in it?
They liked Marinelli better, but preferred the experience Haslett brought.Apparently they hired the guy they wanted.

 

spurs44

Footballguy
I am a little late to the thread, and it appears haslett wont make it, but I had something that had to be said.

If Haslett would wind up in Detroit, who else thinks he would have made an attempt to get Aaron Brooks there? Brooks is on the outs in NO and could be available. And lord knows Haslett has a woody for his little butt buddy. There has to be some sort of extracurricular relationship between the two, how many times did Haslett say "we are going to run more" only to give the ball to his love slave? How many seasons of Ricky and Duece did he ruin by the horrendous play calling. And dont give me that line about "it was the OC's fault." The OC reports to the head coach.
It wouldn't have shocked me at all. The guy is just not head coach material. He isn't the noly coach with mad love for his qb. Kyle Boller anyone?
 

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