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Looting in Missouri after cops shoot 18 year old (4 Viewers)

Since President Obama was elected over 725 law enforcement officials have died in the line of duty
Are you suggesting that there is a correlation here?
  1. A total of 1,501 law enforcement officers died in the line of duty during the past 10 years, an average of one death every 58 hours or 150 per year. There were 100 law enforcement officers killed in 2013.
  2. National Law Enforcement Officers Memorial Fund: Law ... www.nleomf.org/facts/enforcement/

    The FBI reports that in 2011, cops in America killed 404 suspects in acts of "justifiable homicide."

    Astonishingly, though, as FiveThirtyEight reports, this number likely doesn't include every civilian
    fatality that year since it relies on voluntary reporting and doesn't include police homicides that aren't justifiable.
    Still, 404 is a large number. By comparison, just six people were killed by police in Australia over the same period. Police in England and Wales killed only two people, and German police killed six.

    Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/why-do-us-police-kill-so-many-people-2014-8#ixzz3KbxJfM9h

 
Since President Obama was elected over 725 law enforcement officials have died in the line of duty
Are you suggesting that there is a correlation here?
my suggestion is to have respect for law enforcement officials if you aren't privy to all the evidence as the vast majority of us are not. My thoughts are there are racist in this country and the ignorant actions of these looters and those burning down businesses have created many more.
 
Since President Obama was elected over 725 law enforcement officials have died in the line of duty
Are you suggesting that there is a correlation here?
my suggestion is to have respect for law enforcement officials if you aren't privy to all the evidence as the vast majority of us are not. My thoughts are there are racist in this country and the ignorant actions of these looters and those burning down businesses have created many more.
There is ample evidence that LEOs shoot first and ask questions later, then almost always get away with it.

But most of the sheeple chose to ignore it.

 
Since President Obama was elected over 725 law enforcement officials have died in the line of duty
Are you suggesting that there is a correlation here?
my suggestion is to have respect for law enforcement officials if you aren't privy to all the evidence as the vast majority of us are not. My thoughts are there are racist in this country and the ignorant actions of these looters and those burning down businesses have created many more.
So what does Obama getting elected have to do with 725 dead law enforcement officials?

 
Since President Obama was elected over 725 law enforcement officials have died in the line of duty
Are you suggesting that there is a correlation here?
Apples and oranges. America is armed to the teeth, and the cops have to act differently given the threats they are exposed to. It wasn't until very recently that police in Great Britain even started carrying guns.
 
Here it is... As expected, the St. Louis Police Officers Association is outraged over what the Rams did today...

St. Louis, Missouri (November 30, 2014) The St. Louis Police Officers Association is profoundly disappointed with the members of the St. Louis Rams football team who chose to ignore the mountains of evidence released from the St. Louis County Grand Jury this week and engage in a display that police officers around the nation found tasteless, offensive and inflammatory.

Five members of the Rams entered the field today exhibiting the "hands-up-don't-shoot" pose that has been adopted by protestors who accused Ferguson Police Officer Darren Wilson of murdering Michael Brown. The gesture has become synonymous with assertions that Michael Brown was innocent of any wrongdoing and attempting to surrender peacefully when Wilson, according to some now-discredited witnesses, gunned him down in cold blood.

SLPOA Business Manager Jeff Roorda said, "now that the evidence is in and Officer Wilson's account has been verified by physical and ballistic evidence as well as eye-witness testimony, which led the grand jury to conclude that no probable cause existed that Wilson engaged in any wrongdoing, it is unthinkable that hometown athletes would so publicly perpetuate a narrative that has been disproven over-and-over again."

Roorda was incensed that the Rams and the NFL would tolerate such behavior and called it remarkably hypocritical. "All week long, the Rams and the NFL were on the phone with the St. Louis Police Department asking for assurances that the players and the fans would be kept safe from the violent protesters who had rioted, looted, and burned buildings in Ferguson. Our officers have been working 12 hour shifts for over a week, they had days off including Thanksgiving cancelled so that they could defend this community from those on the streets that perpetuate this myth that Michael Brown was executed by a brother police officer and then, as the players and their fans sit safely in their dome under the watchful protection of hundreds of St. Louis's finest, they take to the turf to call a now-exonerated officer a murderer, that is way out-of-bounds, to put it in football parlance," Roorda said.

The SLPOA is calling for the players involved to be disciplined and for the Rams and the NFL to deliver a very public apology. Roorda said he planned to speak to the NFL and the Rams to voice his organization's displeasure tomorrow. He also plans to reach out to other police organizations in St. Louis and around the country to enlist their input on what the appropriate response from law enforcement should be. Roorda warned, "I know that there are those that will say that these players are simply exercising their First Amendment rights. Well I've got news for people who think that way, cops have first amendment rights too, and we plan to exercise ours. I'd remind the NFL and their players that it is not the violent thugs burning down buildings that buy their advertiser's products. It's cops and the good people of St. Louis and other NFL towns that do. Somebody needs to throw a flag on this play. If it's not the NFL and the Rams, then it'll be cops and their supporters."
http://www.ksdk.com/story/news/local/2014/11/30/stl-police-officers-association-condemns-rams-display/19721979/These guys are pissed and I can't say I blame them one bit. It's such a thankless job...

 
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I kinda watch the NFL as an escape. I don't need this on the field, especially when its a divisive issue. So thumbs down to the Rams.

 
Since President Obama was elected over 725 law enforcement officials have died in the line of duty
Are you suggesting that there is a correlation here?
Apples and oranges. America is armed to the teeth, and the cops have to act differently given the threats they are exposed to. It wasn't until very recently that police in Great Britain even started carrying guns.
The point is that cops kill far more citizens than the other way around.

In fact, if you look at a list of the most dangerous professions, cops don't even make the top ten.

http://newsfeed.time.com/2014/01/15/these-are-the-top-10-most-dangerous-jobs-in-the-u-s/

Further, the main goal of cops is to protect themselves, not citizens.

The Supreme Court has ruled that cops have zero duty or requirement to protect citizens.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/28/politics/28scotus.html?_r=0

http://gunssavelives.net/blog/supreme-court-ruling-police-have-no-duty-to-protect-the-general-public/

 
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Mature discussion on whether an NFL team should get involved in a divisive issue like this, and what the impact might be, are topical for the Shark Pool. But trying to convince others of the right or wrong of the event or lack of indictment aren't. Take them to the FFA or don't post in here.
The bad news is that you've been largely ignored.

The other bad news is that you've been largely ignored again.

The good news is that we've learned about the origins of the Tso Dynasty, so there's that.

 
Here it is... As expected, the St. Louis Police Officers Association is outraged over what the Rams did today...

St. Louis, Missouri (November 30, 2014) – The St. Louis Police Officers Association is profoundly disappointed with the members of the St. Louis Rams football team who chose to ignore the mountains of evidence released from the St. Louis County Grand Jury this week and engage in a display that police officers around the nation found tasteless, offensive and inflammatory.

Five members of the Rams entered the field today exhibiting the "hands-up-don't-shoot" pose that has been adopted by protestors who accused Ferguson Police Officer Darren Wilson of murdering Michael Brown. The gesture has become synonymous with assertions that Michael Brown was innocent of any wrongdoing and attempting to surrender peacefully when Wilson, according to some now-discredited witnesses, gunned him down in cold blood.

SLPOA Business Manager Jeff Roorda said, "now that the evidence is in and Officer Wilson's account has been verified by physical and ballistic evidence as well as eye-witness testimony, which led the grand jury to conclude that no probable cause existed that Wilson engaged in any wrongdoing, it is unthinkable that hometown athletes would so publicly perpetuate a narrative that has been disproven over-and-over again."

Roorda was incensed that the Rams and the NFL would tolerate such behavior and called it remarkably hypocritical. "All week long, the Rams and the NFL were on the phone with the St. Louis Police Department asking for assurances that the players and the fans would be kept safe from the violent protesters who had rioted, looted, and burned buildings in Ferguson. Our officers have been working 12 hour shifts for over a week, they had days off including Thanksgiving cancelled so that they could defend this community from those on the streets that perpetuate this myth that Michael Brown was executed by a brother police officer and then, as the players and their fans sit safely in their dome under the watchful protection of hundreds of St. Louis's finest, they take to the turf to call a now-exonerated officer a murderer, that is way out-of-bounds, to put it in football parlance," Roorda said.

The SLPOA is calling for the players involved to be disciplined and for the Rams and the NFL to deliver a very public apology. Roorda said he planned to speak to the NFL and the Rams to voice his organization's displeasure tomorrow. He also plans to reach out to other police organizations in St. Louis and around the country to enlist their input on what the appropriate response from law enforcement should be. Roorda warned, "I know that there are those that will say that these players are simply exercising their First Amendment rights. Well I've got news for people who think that way, cops have first amendment rights too, and we plan to exercise ours. I'd remind the NFL and their players that it is not the violent thugs burning down buildings that buy their advertiser's products. It's cops and the good people of St. Louis and other NFL towns that do. Somebody needs to throw a flag on this play. If it's not the NFL and the Rams, then it'll be cops and their supporters."
http://www.ksdk.com/story/news/local/2014/11/30/stl-police-officers-association-condemns-rams-display/19721979/
They really shouldn't bother. According to Jerry Curl, their opinion doesn't matter

 
Jack White said:
Courtweeks87 said:
My bad, I've had several to many beers. Guess I overreacted. Just doesn't seem all that smart to support Something That is such a highly sensitive subject if your a public figure. Again my bad!
No need to apologize. It's a topic worth discussing.
Yes .... in the FreeForAll Forum. Not the Shark Pool.

 
Mature discussion on whether an NFL team should get involved in a divisive issue like this, and what the impact might be, are topical for the Shark Pool. But trying to convince others of the right or wrong of the event or lack of indictment aren't. Take them to the FFA or don't post in here.
The bad news is that you've been largely ignored.

The other bad news is that you've been largely ignored again.

The good news is that we've learned about the origins of the Tso Dynasty, so there's that.
So let me get this straight fatbast - you are making an irrelevant statement about irrelevant statements? Sorry. But two negatives doesn't equal a positive in here. Go back to eating cereal out of the salad bowl and leave the heavy lifting to us...
 
From my standpoint, it doesn't matter one bit if Brown was charging at Wilson or walking slowly towards him. Both sides acknowledge and agree that each of the following events happened:

1. There was an altercation between Brown and Wilson in the police car.

2. Brown threw punches at Wilson.

3. Wilson discharged his weapon during the altercation.

4. Brown fled away from the car.

5. Wilson emerged from the car, drew his weapon, and told the suspects to freeze.

6. Brown turned around and was facing Wilson. All the shots were entrance wounds to the front of his body.

7. The crime scene evidence showed that Brown moved towards Wilson between the first shot and the last.

NONE of these facts are in dispute. Why does it matter if Brown was "charging" Wilson or walking slowly towards him? After what had just happened, Wilson had every reason in the world to use deadly force at that point. If he had shot Brown in the back while he was fleeing, there wouldn't be an argument. If he had shot Brown while his hands were up and he wasn't moving, there wouldn't be an argument. If he had shot Brown from 100 feet away, there wouldn't be an argument. But that's not what happened. Brown had just assaulted a cop and was resisting arrest. The cop was obviously in a very dangerous situation, as evidenced by the fact that he had already fired his weapon IN THE CAR! I mean, seriously Tim - do you really think it is reasonable to expect him not to shoot there when Brown doesn't immediately freeze, and then starts walking towards him? After all that occurred? I don't care if he's walking at a snail's pace. If he doesn't stop immediately and comply with all directions, after assaulting a cop, then yes - he deserves to die. Sorry if that offends your delicate sensibilities, but that's the way it is.

Michael Brown robbed a convenience store, bullied an old man, walked defiantly in the middle of the street, then assaulted a cop. I feel bad for his parents, and in some way I also feel bad that his life came to such a horrible end. But let's not make this guy into a martyr or a victim. It was borderline suicide by cop.
I find this post, and DW's somewhat similar argument, to be very reasonable rebuttals to my argument (the two responses on the previous page were quite reasonable as well). This is what I was hoping: that we could engage in a civilized dialogue about what happened without throwing insults at each other. I thank you guys very much.That being said, while I appreciate your argument, I have to respectfully disagree with it. Ultimately, if Michael Brown is at least 30 feet away and unarmed, he is not an immediate mortal threat to Officer Wilson unless he is charging toward him. Walking toward him does not make Brown a mortal threat. What Michael Brown did just seconds before, and what sort of man Brown is are both immaterial- not immaterial to Wilson's frame of mind, but immaterial to what Wilson as a police officer should have the right to do- he should not have the right to shoot Brown dead in such an instance. That's why the charge is so important IMO: if Brown is charging then Wilson has the right to kill him.

I should also add that had Brown been killed during the fight at the car, I would have had absolutely no problem with that. If you go for an officer's gun the officer has the right to kill you- at that moment. The officer IMO does not have the right to let you run away and then kill you from a distance.
I'm 6'4 also. I also weigh just about the same.

I just got out a tape measure and marked off 30 feet. I naturally take 4 steps every 10 feet. That's 12 steps away.

After just two steps, my wife felt threatened by me walking towards her.

#timcommonsense
good thing she wasnt armed

 
Since President Obama was elected over 725 law enforcement officials have died in the line of duty
Are you suggesting that there is a correlation here?
Since President Obama was elected over 725 law enforcement officials have died in the line of duty
Are you suggesting that there is a correlation here?
my suggestion is to have respect for law enforcement officials if you aren't privy to all the evidence as the vast majority of us are not. My thoughts are there are racist in this country and the ignorant actions of these looters and those burning down businesses have created many more.
So what does Obama getting elected have to do with 725 dead law enforcement officials?
simply a point of reference in time I have seen used with my sole purpose to point out the honor of those who protect and serve us. A small % of them are racists and use excessive force. Looting...nothing better than showing you care about a dead black man and your community than ripping off 50 air Jordan's and burning down a store.V

 
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Since President Obama was elected over 725 law enforcement officials have died in the line of duty
Are you suggesting that there is a correlation here?
my suggestion is to have respect for law enforcement officials if you aren't privy to all the evidence as the vast majority of us are not. My thoughts are there are racist in this country and the ignorant actions of these looters and those burning down businesses have created many more.
So what does Obama getting elected have to do with 725 dead law enforcement officials?
si moly a point of reference in time I have seen used with my sole purpose to point out the honor of those who protect and serve us. A small % of them are racists and use excessive force. Looting...nothing better than showing you care about a dead black man and your community than ripping off 50 air Jordan's and burning down a store.V
Those are not protesters. They're criminal opportunists.

And those "honorable" cops did nothing to serve and protect citizens and their property against those criminals.

Why is that?

 
Since President Obama was elected over 725 law enforcement officials have died in the line of duty
Are you suggesting that there is a correlation here?
my suggestion is to have respect for law enforcement officials if you aren't privy to all the evidence as the vast majority of us are not. My thoughts are there are racist in this country and the ignorant actions of these looters and those burning down businesses have created many more.
So what does Obama getting elected have to do with 725 dead law enforcement officials?
si moly a point of reference in time I have seen used with my sole purpose to point out the honor of those who protect and serve us. A small % of them are racists and use excessive force. Looting...nothing better than showing you care about a dead black man and your community than ripping off 50 air Jordan's and burning down a store.V
I'd suggest going about honoring these people in a different way. Your statement actually does the exact opposite of honoring them and instead uses them as a tool for a political agenda.

 
Once again I do not have enough evidence to know the reasons why they didn't do more. I know as a fireman I have been at fires where I have been told no one goes in(the burning building) because it's too dangerous. Once the rioting reached a certain point that may have been the case. It's easy to say in hindsight if they had only stopped the first rioters it wouldn't have gotten so out of control.

 
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Since President Obama was elected over 725 law enforcement officials have died in the line of duty
Are you suggesting that there is a correlation here?
my suggestion is to have respect for law enforcement officials if you aren't privy to all the evidence as the vast majority of us are not. My thoughts are there are racist in this country and the ignorant actions of these looters and those burning down businesses have created many more.
So what does Obama getting elected have to do with 725 dead law enforcement officials?
si moly a point of reference in time I have seen used with my sole purpose to point out the honor of those who protect and serve us. A small % of them are racists and use excessive force. Looting...nothing better than showing you care about a dead black man and your community than ripping off 50 air Jordan's and burning down a store.V
Those are not protesters. They're criminal opportunists.

And those "honorable" cops did nothing to serve and protect citizens and their property against those criminals.

Why is that?
LOL. Really? Now the cops are to blame for the riots and looting? It's also convenient that you can draw such a sharp dividing line between protesters and "criminals". How does that line apply to Mike Brown's stepfather who incited the riots by yelling repeatedly, "Burn this ##### down!" after the Grand Jury decision was announced? I suppose you will find a way to blame the cops for that one too. What, they didn't stop him after the first utterance?Back on topic - this is going to be another mess for the NFL and Goodell this week. It's yet another example of the complete mismanagement of the league under Goodell's tenure. Players have no clue what's appropriate business conduct anymore, mostly because Goodell has done such a lousy job of clarifying the issue himself.

 
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Since President Obama was elected over 725 law enforcement officials have died in the line of duty
Are you suggesting that there is a correlation here?
my suggestion is to have respect for law enforcement officials if you aren't privy to all the evidence as the vast majority of us are not. My thoughts are there are racist in this country and the ignorant actions of these looters and those burning down businesses have created many more.
So what does Obama getting elected have to do with 725 dead law enforcement officials?
si moly a point of reference in time I have seen used with my sole purpose to point out the honor of those who protect and serve us. A small % of them are racists and use excessive force. Looting...nothing better than showing you care about a dead black man and your community than ripping off 50 air Jordan's and burning down a store.V
Those are not protesters. They're criminal opportunists.

And those "honorable" cops did nothing to serve and protect citizens and their property against those criminals.

Why is that?
LOL. Really? Now the cops are to blame for the riots and looting? It's also convenient that you can draw such a sharp dividing line between protesters and "criminals". How does that line apply to Mike Brown's stepfather who incited the riots by yelling repeatedly, "Burn this ##### down!" after the Grand Jury decision was announced? I suppose you will find a way to blame the cops for that one too. What, they didn't stop him after the first utterance?Back on topic - this is going to be another mess for the NFL and Goodell this week. It's yet another example of the complete mismanagement of the league under Goodell's tenure. Players have no clue what's appropriate business conduct anymore, mostly because Goodell has done such a lousy job of clarifying the issue himself.
LOL really? now the league is to blame for blahblahblah..........

 
Running v. walking toward him is a distinction without a difference.

Cop tells you to freeze, you freeze. You don't walk or run toward him.

 
Since President Obama was elected over 725 law enforcement officials have died in the line of duty
Are you suggesting that there is a correlation here?
my suggestion is to have respect for law enforcement officials if you aren't privy to all the evidence as the vast majority of us are not. My thoughts are there are racist in this country and the ignorant actions of these looters and those burning down businesses have created many more.
So what does Obama getting elected have to do with 725 dead law enforcement officials?
si moly a point of reference in time I have seen used with my sole purpose to point out the honor of those who protect and serve us. A small % of them are racists and use excessive force. Looting...nothing better than showing you care about a dead black man and your community than ripping off 50 air Jordan's and burning down a store.V
Those are not protesters. They're criminal opportunists.

And those "honorable" cops did nothing to serve and protect citizens and their property against those criminals.

Why is that?
LOL. Really? Now the cops are to blame for the riots and looting? It's also convenient that you can draw such a sharp dividing line between protesters and "criminals". How does that line apply to Mike Brown's stepfather who incited the riots by yelling repeatedly, "Burn this ##### down!" after the Grand Jury decision was announced? I suppose you will find a way to blame the cops for that one too. What, they didn't stop him after the first utterance?Back on topic - this is going to be another mess for the NFL and Goodell this week. It's yet another example of the complete mismanagement of the league under Goodell's tenure. Players have no clue what's appropriate business conduct anymore, mostly because Goodell has done such a lousy job of clarifying the issue himself.
You need to read what I wrote and answer the question:

If the cops "serve and protect," why did they do nothing to protect that people and the property that were victimized by the looters?

 
It will be interesting to see the NFL's official response to this. It will probably go along the lines of, "the NFL does not have any position of this issue, and asks that it's players respect that the NFL field is not the appropriate forum to display their political or social points of view". And I bet Roger doesn't have the nads to fine the players for it. He just wants this to go away, and will probably work behind the scenes to make sure it doesn't happen again.
I think the official NFL response will be more along the lines of, " ".

 
Since President Obama was elected over 725 law enforcement officials have died in the line of duty
Are you suggesting that there is a correlation here?
my suggestion is to have respect for law enforcement officials if you aren't privy to all the evidence as the vast majority of us are not. My thoughts are there are racist in this country and the ignorant actions of these looters and those burning down businesses have created many more.
So what does Obama getting elected have to do with 725 dead law enforcement officials?
si moly a point of reference in time I have seen used with my sole purpose to point out the honor of those who protect and serve us. A small % of them are racists and use excessive force. Looting...nothing better than showing you care about a dead black man and your community than ripping off 50 air Jordan's and burning down a store.V
Those are not protesters. They're criminal opportunists.

And those "honorable" cops did nothing to serve and protect citizens and their property against those criminals.

Why is that?
LOL. Really? Now the cops are to blame for the riots and looting? It's also convenient that you can draw such a sharp dividing line between protesters and "criminals". How does that line apply to Mike Brown's stepfather who incited the riots by yelling repeatedly, "Burn this ##### down!" after the Grand Jury decision was announced? I suppose you will find a way to blame the cops for that one too. What, they didn't stop him after the first utterance?Back on topic - this is going to be another mess for the NFL and Goodell this week. It's yet another example of the complete mismanagement of the league under Goodell's tenure. Players have no clue what's appropriate business conduct anymore, mostly because Goodell has done such a lousy job of clarifying the issue himself.
LOL really? now the league is to blame for blahblahblah..........
You're right. My bad. My dislike of Goodell has clouded my better judgment. Let's hold accountability right now where it firmly belongs - with the 5 knuckleheads who made the gesture.But I can almost guarantee you that Mr. Goodell will screw up the NFL's response - at which time he will be fair game.

 
Since President Obama was elected over 725 law enforcement officials have died in the line of duty
Are you suggesting that there is a correlation here?
my suggestion is to have respect for law enforcement officials if you aren't privy to all the evidence as the vast majority of us are not. My thoughts are there are racist in this country and the ignorant actions of these looters and those burning down businesses have created many more.
So what does Obama getting elected have to do with 725 dead law enforcement officials?
si moly a point of reference in time I have seen used with my sole purpose to point out the honor of those who protect and serve us. A small % of them are racists and use excessive force. Looting...nothing better than showing you care about a dead black man and your community than ripping off 50 air Jordan's and burning down a store.V
Those are not protesters. They're criminal opportunists.

And those "honorable" cops did nothing to serve and protect citizens and their property against those criminals.

Why is that?
LOL. Really? Now the cops are to blame for the riots and looting? It's also convenient that you can draw such a sharp dividing line between protesters and "criminals". How does that line apply to Mike Brown's stepfather who incited the riots by yelling repeatedly, "Burn this ##### down!" after the Grand Jury decision was announced? I suppose you will find a way to blame the cops for that one too. What, they didn't stop him after the first utterance?Back on topic - this is going to be another mess for the NFL and Goodell this week. It's yet another example of the complete mismanagement of the league under Goodell's tenure. Players have no clue what's appropriate business conduct anymore, mostly because Goodell has done such a lousy job of clarifying the issue himself.
You need to read what I wrote and answer the question:

If the cops "serve and protect," why did they do nothing to protect that people and the property that were victimized by the looters?
This has nothing to do with the Rams situation. Take it to the FFA.

 
Since President Obama was elected over 725 law enforcement officials have died in the line of duty
Are you suggesting that there is a correlation here?
my suggestion is to have respect for law enforcement officials if you aren't privy to all the evidence as the vast majority of us are not. My thoughts are there are racist in this country and the ignorant actions of these looters and those burning down businesses have created many more.
So what does Obama getting elected have to do with 725 dead law enforcement officials?
si moly a point of reference in time I have seen used with my sole purpose to point out the honor of those who protect and serve us. A small % of them are racists and use excessive force. Looting...nothing better than showing you care about a dead black man and your community than ripping off 50 air Jordan's and burning down a store.V
Those are not protesters. They're criminal opportunists.

And those "honorable" cops did nothing to serve and protect citizens and their property against those criminals.

Why is that?
LOL. Really? Now the cops are to blame for the riots and looting? It's also convenient that you can draw such a sharp dividing line between protesters and "criminals". How does that line apply to Mike Brown's stepfather who incited the riots by yelling repeatedly, "Burn this ##### down!" after the Grand Jury decision was announced? I suppose you will find a way to blame the cops for that one too. What, they didn't stop him after the first utterance?Back on topic - this is going to be another mess for the NFL and Goodell this week. It's yet another example of the complete mismanagement of the league under Goodell's tenure. Players have no clue what's appropriate business conduct anymore, mostly because Goodell has done such a lousy job of clarifying the issue himself.
You need to read what I wrote and answer the question:

If the cops "serve and protect," why did they do nothing to protect that people and the property that were victimized by the looters?
This has nothing to do with the Rams situation. Take it to the FFA.
Like I said, I'm not a forum cop, so I can't take it to FFA.

 
Running v. walking toward him is a distinction without a difference.

Cop tells you to freeze, you freeze. You don't walk or run toward him.
why would he just stop running away if he had that much of a lead ?
Someone else mentioned it earlier. With his size and weight, he realized he could not out run a cop and then charged.

He didn't have #timlogic, they were already defying the law by walking down the middle of the street. So stopping and charging, and not stopping when told to falls right in line with the mindset he had at the time.

 
Get me a total # of injuries and fatalities, from these recent riots, and then we'll talk about the people being protected.

Well, you refuse to answer why the "honorable serve-and-protect" cops refused to protect the citizens and their property against the criminal looters.

That's because you have no good answer, because there is no good answer.

Cops do not protect citizens, because they don't have to and that's not their mission.

 
Mature discussion on whether an NFL team should get involved in a divisive issue like this, and what the impact might be, are topical for the Shark Pool. But trying to convince others of the right or wrong of the event or lack of indictment aren't. Take them to the FFA or don't post in here.
The bad news is that you've been largely ignored.

The other bad news is that you've been largely ignored again.

The good news is that we've learned about the origins of the Tso Dynasty, so there's that.
So let me get this straight fatbast - you are making an irrelevant statement about irrelevant statements? Sorry. But two negatives doesn't equal a positive in here. Go back to eating cereal out of the salad bowl and leave the heavy lifting to us...
In the later years, Nancy was one of the Tso dynasty not gifted with a sense of humor.

 
Get me a total # of injuries and fatalities, from these recent riots, and then we'll talk about the people being protected.

Well, you refuse to answer why the "honorable serve-and-protect" cops refused to protect the citizens and their property against the criminal looters.

That's because you have no good answer, because there is no good answer.

Cops do not protect citizens, because they don't have to and that's not their mission.
Dude, give it a rest. The cops arrested 61 people during the first night of the riots in what amounted to a completely untenable situation. It was a war zone, and what was needed was National Guard. The better question is, why didn't the liberal Democratic Governor of the state, who is the only one authorized, mobilize the National Guard that night? You answer that one chief.
 
Get me a total # of injuries and fatalities, from these recent riots, and then we'll talk about the people being protected.

Well, you refuse to answer why the "honorable serve-and-protect" cops refused to protect the citizens and their property against the criminal looters.

That's because you have no good answer, because there is no good answer.

Cops do not protect citizens, because they don't have to and that's not their mission.
:lmao:

So incredibly short-sighted

 
Get me a total # of injuries and fatalities, from these recent riots, and then we'll talk about the people being protected.

Well, you refuse to answer why the "honorable serve-and-protect" cops refused to protect the citizens and their property against the criminal looters.

That's because you have no good answer, because there is no good answer.

Cops do not protect citizens, because they don't have to and that's not their mission.
Your ticket to the FFA

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=710325&p=17529712

And to think.....I'm not even a 'board cop'

 
SWC said:
i for one am glad that so many people on both sides of this thing know everything about everything the last week has been great listening to people on both sides use this as reason to unleash there inner scardy cat closet racist or there inner closet the man is keeping me down and nothing has been better than watching peole make permanent aholes out of themselves on line about it on facetwitters and emails because nothing will probably ever go wrong with that so hey great to see the allstars show up here keep on stayin classy and take that to the bank bromigos
*high five*

Classic case of neither side being "right"

 

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