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timschochet said:
SIDA! said:
timschochet said:
Brown was shot in the forehead and the top of the dome. Does anyone here contend that those two shots did not happen in succession and were not the final two shots?
i have no idea. Why is this relevant?
You don't think there is any relevancy to the order of the shots and where they were located on the body? Why would you have no idea? Do you think the dome shot was the first shot?
i didn't say there is no relevancy. I wrote that I didn't understand the relevancy, and I don't. That was not meant to be a challenge to you but an honest question.As far as the dome shot being first or last or in between, weren't all the shots fired in very quick succession? That was my understanding.
Do you think that the order in which shots are fired and where they hit the body is relevant?
i don't know. Intuitively, it seems to me that, outside of the shot to the hand, if the rest of the shots were fired all close together then it doesn't matter what their order is. But that may be the wrong answer. I have no idea.
I would like you to present a scenario whereby an individual can be shot in the forehead with the bullet having a trajectory through the right jaw and through the top of the head without them being successive shots.
im not even sure I understand your challenge here. In any case I would never attempt to make such an argument .
You are willing to put forth many arguments...some ridiculous...some not...on basically every facet of this case. Why are you unwilling to discuss the order in which the shots were fired?
because I don't know enough about it to do so. And you're wrong anyhow: despite the large number of my posts, they have been almost entirely focused on 2-3 very specific issues. The ones that are more scientific in nature (whether he was shot in the front, how many bullets, the trajectory of the bullets; etc.) I have sometimes asked questions but never offered any opinions.
 
timschochet said:
SIDA! said:
timschochet said:
Brown was shot in the forehead and the top of the dome. Does anyone here contend that those two shots did not happen in succession and were not the final two shots?
i have no idea. Why is this relevant?
You don't think there is any relevancy to the order of the shots and where they were located on the body? Why would you have no idea? Do you think the dome shot was the first shot?
i didn't say there is no relevancy. I wrote that I didn't understand the relevancy, and I don't. That was not meant to be a challenge to you but an honest question.As far as the dome shot being first or last or in between, weren't all the shots fired in very quick succession? That was my understanding.
Do you think that the order in which shots are fired and where they hit the body is relevant?
i don't know. Intuitively, it seems to me that, outside of the shot to the hand, if the rest of the shots were fired all close together then it doesn't matter what their order is. But that may be the wrong answer. I have no idea.
I would like you to present a scenario whereby an individual can be shot in the forehead with the bullet having a trajectory through the right jaw and through the top of the head without them being successive shots.
im not even sure I understand your challenge here. In any case I would never attempt to make such an argument .
You are willing to put forth many arguments...some ridiculous...some not...on basically every facet of this case. Why are you unwilling to discuss the order in which the shots were fired?
because I don't know enough about it to do so. And you're wrong anyhow: despite the large number of my posts, they have been almost entirely focused on 2-3 very specific issues. The ones that are more scientific in nature (whether he was shot in the front, how many bullets, the trajectory of the bullets; etc.) I have sometimes asked questions but never offered any opinions.
ROFLMAO

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Strike, regarding your pm to me: the basement comment was meant to be humorous and not insulting. Many of us engage in back and forth humor here, and that's much different from people saying straight out "you're stupid" or "you're an #######" etc. At least I think it is. I'm sorry that you took particular offense at that comment. I will not repeat it.
Right, like "teabagger" eh? Just "humorous" to you? Just remember that when you take offense to something I might call you ok?
OK. You just called me a ######## in another thread- are we even now?
Nope. I don't normally call you names. Since you don't feel it necessary to apologize for the insult, just that I took exception to it I'll feel free to insult you as much as I want. If you take offense I'll make sure to apologize for you being offended but not for the actual insult. When you learn to not be insulting I'll consider changing my stance. But why should I when you don't even feel you should apologize for insulting someone, just that they took offense?
I think there's a big difference between what I did and making personal insults.Fine whatever. Go ahead and insult me anytime you feel like it. I won't ever mention it again. If you want to look foolish and rude, have at it.
Cool. Just don't "report me" as you've been known to do. You can be a real p***y sometimes.
i have never reported you. During my 7 years here I think I have only reported two people, Clinton and LHUCKS, and I regretted doing so afterward. I'll never do it again. It's not my place to police this forum.
 
timschochet said:
SIDA! said:
timschochet said:
Brown was shot in the forehead and the top of the dome. Does anyone here contend that those two shots did not happen in succession and were not the final two shots?
i have no idea. Why is this relevant?
You don't think there is any relevancy to the order of the shots and where they were located on the body? Why would you have no idea? Do you think the dome shot was the first shot?
i didn't say there is no relevancy. I wrote that I didn't understand the relevancy, and I don't. That was not meant to be a challenge to you but an honest question.As far as the dome shot being first or last or in between, weren't all the shots fired in very quick succession? That was my understanding.
Do you think that the order in which shots are fired and where they hit the body is relevant?
i don't know. Intuitively, it seems to me that, outside of the shot to the hand, if the rest of the shots were fired all close together then it doesn't matter what their order is. But that may be the wrong answer. I have no idea.
I would like you to present a scenario whereby an individual can be shot in the forehead with the bullet having a trajectory through the right jaw and through the top of the head without them being successive shots.
im not even sure I understand your challenge here. In any case I would never attempt to make such an argument .
You are willing to put forth many arguments...some ridiculous...some not...on basically every facet of this case. Why are you unwilling to discuss the order in which the shots were fired?
because I don't know enough about it to do so. And you're wrong anyhow: despite the large number of my posts, they have been almost entirely focused on 2-3 very specific issues. The ones that are more scientific in nature (whether he was shot in the front, how many bullets, the trajectory of the bullets; etc.) I have sometimes asked questions but never offered any opinions.
As an extreme example, if an officer says a suspect charged him and the suspect only has shots in their back...that would be pretty damn relevant, no?

You are caught up on the issue of whether or not Brown charged Wilson. That seems to be the only thing you have to cling onto at this point.

You do not think that the order of shots and where they are located is relevant to that discussion?

 
I like to look at positives. There are several positive results from this affair, IMO:

1. Wilson wasn't indicted, and he wasn't found guilty. From everything I've learned about this case, I think that this was the most just result. Yes, I think that it's likely he wrongfully shot Michael Brown. But it was a spur of the moment decision and he doesn't deserve to go to jail for that. He resigned from the force and I think that was a good result, because based on this incident I don't think he's a very good police officer. But no indictment was the right decision.

2. The protests have generally been peaceful. Yes, there have been some horrible incidents of rioting, but it could have been far worse- in fact, most of us have seen far worse, only 22 years ago in Los Angeles. Most of the businesses that were damaged or looted will be rebuilt with insurance money.

3. The protests, and this entire incident, has brought attention to institutionalized racism by police in this country. I agree with several people who have pointed out that there could have been a better example than the thug Michael Brown. He was no Medgar Evars or Emmitt Till, that's for sure. But the public is discussing this issue and more aware of it, which is how you solve it, and that's a good thing. GrandpaRox seems to believe that the protests (and rioting and looting, which he refuses to distinguish from each other) will justify in people's minds ethnic stereotyping. Maybe it does for him, but I think the public will see it differently.

4. The police in Ferguson and elsewhere will behave differently. The root of the protests is not that Michael Brown is an isolated incident, but that blacks are treated with less dignity than others by police. I believe this incident will help to change that. I think it's already happening.

5. This entire situation will die down, causing me to post about much less often. So you guys won't have to read me as much. Something to look forward to.
Tim, seriously: #### you.
Well at least this wasn't a personal insult!
Seriously, how much money to stop posting forever.

 
Strike, regarding your pm to me: the basement comment was meant to be humorous and not insulting. Many of us engage in back and forth humor here, and that's much different from people saying straight out "you're stupid" or "you're an #######" etc. At least I think it is. I'm sorry that you took particular offense at that comment. I will not repeat it.
Right, like "teabagger" eh? Just "humorous" to you? Just remember that when you take offense to something I might call you ok?
OK. You just called me a ######## in another thread- are we even now?
Nope. I don't normally call you names. Since you don't feel it necessary to apologize for the insult, just that I took exception to it I'll feel free to insult you as much as I want. If you take offense I'll make sure to apologize for you being offended but not for the actual insult. When you learn to not be insulting I'll consider changing my stance. But why should I when you don't even feel you should apologize for insulting someone, just that they took offense?
I think there's a big difference between what I did and making personal insults.Fine whatever. Go ahead and insult me anytime you feel like it. I won't ever mention it again. If you want to look foolish and rude, have at it.
Cool. Just don't "report me" as you've been known to do. You can be a real p***y sometimes.
i have never reported you. During my 7 years here I think I have only reported two people, Clinton and LHUCKS, and I regretted doing so afterward. I'll never do it again. It's not my place to police this forum.
BS. The one and only time I was suspended on this forum a MOD told me it was due to a report by you. And I've seen you post that you've reported others, most recently last week. I know you lie regularly on here, but please....On things I know for a fact don't lie.

 
<blockquote class='ipsBlockquote'data-author="Good Posting Judge" data-cid="17529994" data-time="1417417103"><p><p><blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="timschochet" data-cid="17529983" data-time="1417416562"><p> $5,000.00. Shall I pm you my info?

 
I feel like I probably disagree quite a bit with a lot of other people in here on the actual issues re: Ferguson, but our disdain of Tim can be a uniting force.

 
<blockquote class='ipsBlockquote'data-author="Good Posting Judge" data-cid="17529994" data-time="1417417103"><p><p><blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="timschochet" data-cid="17529983" data-time="1417416562"><p> $5,000.00. Shall I pm you my info?
WTF????

 
<blockquote class='ipsBlockquote'data-author="Good Posting Judge" data-cid="17529994" data-time="1417417103"><p><p><blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="timschochet" data-cid="17529983" data-time="1417416562"><p> $5,000.00. Shall I pm you my info?
Same price to never visit this board either, I assume?

 
Strike, regarding your pm to me: the basement comment was meant to be humorous and not insulting. Many of us engage in back and forth humor here, and that's much different from people saying straight out "you're stupid" or "you're an #######" etc. At least I think it is. I'm sorry that you took particular offense at that comment. I will not repeat it.
Right, like "teabagger" eh? Just "humorous" to you? Just remember that when you take offense to something I might call you ok?
OK. You just called me a ######## in another thread- are we even now?
Nope. I don't normally call you names. Since you don't feel it necessary to apologize for the insult, just that I took exception to it I'll feel free to insult you as much as I want. If you take offense I'll make sure to apologize for you being offended but not for the actual insult. When you learn to not be insulting I'll consider changing my stance. But why should I when you don't even feel you should apologize for insulting someone, just that they took offense?
I think there's a big difference between what I did and making personal insults.Fine whatever. Go ahead and insult me anytime you feel like it. I won't ever mention it again. If you want to look foolish and rude, have at it.
Cool. Just don't "report me" as you've been known to do. You can be a real p***y sometimes.
i have never reported you. During my 7 years here I think I have only reported two people, Clinton and LHUCKS, and I regretted doing so afterward. I'll never do it again. It's not my place to police this forum.
BS. The one and only time I was suspended on this forum a MOD told me it was due to a report by you. And I've seen you post that you've reported others, most recently last week. I know you lie regularly on here, but please....On things I know for a fact don't lie.
What? I don't know what that MOD told you but I don't recall ever reporting you. It's possible that it slipped my memory but I doubt it because it's so rare that I ever report anyone. And I certainly did not report anybody 2 weeks ago . You must be thinking of someone else.
 
<blockquote class='ipsBlockquote'data-author="Good Posting Judge" data-cid="17529994" data-time="1417417103"><p><p><blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="timschochet" data-cid="17529983" data-time="1417416562"><p> $5,000.00. Shall I pm you my info?
Same price to never visit this board either, I assume?
And I assume you'd be willing to donate it to charity, or are you going to pocket it?

 
<blockquote class='ipsBlockquote'data-author="Good Posting Judge" data-cid="17529994" data-time="1417417103"><p><p><blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="timschochet" data-cid="17529983" data-time="1417416562"><p> $5,000.00. Shall I pm you my info?
Same price to never visit this board either, I assume?
Yep. No aliases, no visits. I'll wish a few people goodbye and I'll be gone.
 
<blockquote class='ipsBlockquote'data-author="Good Posting Judge" data-cid="17529994" data-time="1417417103"><p><p><blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="timschochet" data-cid="17529983" data-time="1417416562"><p> $5,000.00. Shall I pm you my info?
Same price to never visit this board either, I assume?
And I assume you'd be willing to donate it to charity, or are you going to pocket it?
oh no. If you're insane enough to send me the cash, it's completely my decision what to do with it.
 
Strike, regarding your pm to me: the basement comment was meant to be humorous and not insulting. Many of us engage in back and forth humor here, and that's much different from people saying straight out "you're stupid" or "you're an #######" etc. At least I think it is. I'm sorry that you took particular offense at that comment. I will not repeat it.
Right, like "teabagger" eh? Just "humorous" to you? Just remember that when you take offense to something I might call you ok?
OK. You just called me a ######## in another thread- are we even now?
Nope. I don't normally call you names. Since you don't feel it necessary to apologize for the insult, just that I took exception to it I'll feel free to insult you as much as I want. If you take offense I'll make sure to apologize for you being offended but not for the actual insult. When you learn to not be insulting I'll consider changing my stance. But why should I when you don't even feel you should apologize for insulting someone, just that they took offense?
I think there's a big difference between what I did and making personal insults.Fine whatever. Go ahead and insult me anytime you feel like it. I won't ever mention it again. If you want to look foolish and rude, have at it.
Cool. Just don't "report me" as you've been known to do. You can be a real p***y sometimes.
i have never reported you. During my 7 years here I think I have only reported two people, Clinton and LHUCKS, and I regretted doing so afterward. I'll never do it again. It's not my place to police this forum.
BS. The one and only time I was suspended on this forum a MOD told me it was due to a report by you. And I've seen you post that you've reported others, most recently last week. I know you lie regularly on here, but please....On things I know for a fact don't lie.
What? I don't know what that MOD told you but I don't recall ever reporting you. It's possible that it slipped my memory but I doubt it because it's so rare that I ever report anyone. And I certainly did not report anybody 2 weeks ago . You must be thinking of someone else.
The one within the last couple of weeks is based upon a post of yours. You posted that you were reporting someone. Only you can verify whether it is true. As far as whether you reported me all I can say is that if you even question that you might have, given that a MOD said you did, maybe you should just concede the point. You never do and that's one of your biggest flaws. The fact that YOU don't remember doing it doesn't mean you didn't do it. And I was suspended for a couple of months based upon you reporting me. Unless you want to call a MOD a liar.

 
Funny, because that's the same amount LSCHMUCKS offered me to come meet him at a bar in NYC and say something to his face, which I gladly would if I were assured of getting the money or not having about twenty hired goons in there to kick my teeth in.

But $5,000 and the requisite amount of schmuckitude sound odd to me.

eta* This was right before I got banned for a week, so I'm assuming trollTim just got keys handed off to him.

 
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<blockquote class='ipsBlockquote'data-author="Good Posting Judge" data-cid="17529994" data-time="1417417103"><p><p><blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="timschochet" data-cid="17529983" data-time="1417416562"><p> $5,000.00. Shall I pm you my info?
Same price to never visit this board either, I assume?
And I assume you'd be willing to donate it to charity, or are you going to pocket it?
oh no. If you're insane enough to send me the cash, it's completely my decision what to do with it.
What are you going to buy with it?

 
timschochet said:
SIDA! said:
timschochet said:
Brown was shot in the forehead and the top of the dome. Does anyone here contend that those two shots did not happen in succession and were not the final two shots?
i have no idea. Why is this relevant?
You don't think there is any relevancy to the order of the shots and where they were located on the body? Why would you have no idea? Do you think the dome shot was the first shot?
i didn't say there is no relevancy. I wrote that I didn't understand the relevancy, and I don't. That was not meant to be a challenge to you but an honest question.As far as the dome shot being first or last or in between, weren't all the shots fired in very quick succession? That was my understanding.
Do you think that the order in which shots are fired and where they hit the body is relevant?
i don't know. Intuitively, it seems to me that, outside of the shot to the hand, if the rest of the shots were fired all close together then it doesn't matter what their order is. But that may be the wrong answer. I have no idea.
I would like you to present a scenario whereby an individual can be shot in the forehead with the bullet having a trajectory through the right jaw and through the top of the head without them being successive shots.
im not even sure I understand your challenge here. In any case I would never attempt to make such an argument .
You are willing to put forth many arguments...some ridiculous...some not...on basically every facet of this case. Why are you unwilling to discuss the order in which the shots were fired?
because I don't know enough about it to do so. And you're wrong anyhow: despite the large number of my posts, they have been almost entirely focused on 2-3 very specific issues. The ones that are more scientific in nature (whether he was shot in the front, how many bullets, the trajectory of the bullets; etc.) I have sometimes asked questions but never offered any opinions.
As an extreme example, if an officer says a suspect charged him and the suspect only has shots in their back...that would be pretty damn relevant, no?

You are caught up on the issue of whether or not Brown charged Wilson. That seems to be the only thing you have to cling onto at this point.

You do not think that the order of shots and where they are located is relevant to that discussion?
its not that I cling to it; it's that it bothers me more than any other issue. To answer your question I don't know if the order of shots is relevant or not. I've asked you repeatedly now to make an argument as to why it is, because I want to understand you better. Instead you keep challenging me to defend positions I've never made in the first place. Why don't you tell me what YOU think about the order of shots and it's relevancy to whether or not Brown's death was justified? Then I'll let you know if I agree with you or not, and why.

 
Strike, regarding your pm to me: the basement comment was meant to be humorous and not insulting. Many of us engage in back and forth humor here, and that's much different from people saying straight out "you're stupid" or "you're an #######" etc. At least I think it is. I'm sorry that you took particular offense at that comment. I will not repeat it.
Right, like "teabagger" eh? Just "humorous" to you? Just remember that when you take offense to something I might call you ok?
OK. You just called me a ######## in another thread- are we even now?
Nope. I don't normally call you names. Since you don't feel it necessary to apologize for the insult, just that I took exception to it I'll feel free to insult you as much as I want. If you take offense I'll make sure to apologize for you being offended but not for the actual insult. When you learn to not be insulting I'll consider changing my stance. But why should I when you don't even feel you should apologize for insulting someone, just that they took offense?
I think there's a big difference between what I did and making personal insults.Fine whatever. Go ahead and insult me anytime you feel like it. I won't ever mention it again. If you want to look foolish and rude, have at it.
Cool. Just don't "report me" as you've been known to do. You can be a real p***y sometimes.
i have never reported you. During my 7 years here I think I have only reported two people, Clinton and LHUCKS, and I regretted doing so afterward. I'll never do it again. It's not my place to police this forum.
BS. The one and only time I was suspended on this forum a MOD told me it was due to a report by you. And I've seen you post that you've reported others, most recently last week. I know you lie regularly on here, but please....On things I know for a fact don't lie.
What? I don't know what that MOD told you but I don't recall ever reporting you. It's possible that it slipped my memory but I doubt it because it's so rare that I ever report anyone. And I certainly did not report anybody 2 weeks ago . You must be thinking of someone else.
The one within the last couple of weeks is based upon a post of yours. You posted that you were reporting someone. Only you can verify whether it is true. As far as whether you reported me all I can say is that if you even question that you might have, given that a MOD said you did, maybe you should just concede the point. You never do and that's one of your biggest flaws. The fact that YOU don't remember doing it doesn't mean you didn't do it. And I was suspended for a couple of months based upon you reporting me. Unless you want to call a MOD a liar.
i didn't report anyone two weeks ago. I don't recall saying I was going to either. I don't ever recall reporting you . I've been here a long time though so any things possible. If you were suspended for 2 whole months then you must have written something really horrendous so don't blame me for that. In any event I give you my word that I will NEVER report anyone again. Period.
 
<blockquote class='ipsBlockquote'data-author="Good Posting Judge" data-cid="17529994" data-time="1417417103"><p><p>

<p> $5,000.00. Shall I pm you my info?
Same price to never visit this board either, I assume?
And I assume you'd be willing to donate it to charity, or are you going to pocket it?
oh no. If you're insane enough to send me the cash, it's completely my decision what to do with it.
What are you going to buy with it?
Whatever the #### I want I guess.
 
i didn't report anyone two weeks ago. I don't recall saying I was going to either. I don't ever recall reporting you . I've been here a long time though so any things possible. If you were suspended for 2 whole months then you must have written something really horrendous so don't blame me for that. In any event I give you my word that I will NEVER report anyone again. Period.
This is a load of crap. This is based upon bias. In fact the person who suspended me said I had a very valid point but the way I posted it was offensive. It was a PC reaction. Unfortunately that's what our society has come to. You see it in Ferguson as well as everywhere else. But you don't even know what the comment was so, as I feel about most of your responses in threads, how the F can you know whether it was truly offensive?????

 
Funny, because that's the same amount LSCHMUCKS offered me to come meet him at a bar in NYC and say something to his face, which I gladly would if I were assured of getting the money or not having about twenty hired goons in there to kick my teeth in.

But $5,000 and the requisite amount of schmuckitude sound odd to me.

eta* This was right before I got banned for a week, so I'm assuming trollTim just got keys handed off to him.
i have no idea what you're talking about. I'm sad that you think I'm a troll. I've always liked your posts, especially about punk rock. Lately I've been purchasing music from several artists that I've never heard before which you recommended. Greatly appreciated.
 
i didn't report anyone two weeks ago. I don't recall saying I was going to either. I don't ever recall reporting you . I've been here a long time though so any things possible. If you were suspended for 2 whole months then you must have written something really horrendous so don't blame me for that. In any event I give you my word that I will NEVER report anyone again. Period.
This is a load of crap. This is based upon bias. In fact the person who suspended me said I had a very valid point but the way I posted it was offensive. It was a PC reaction. Unfortunately that's what our society has come to. You see it in Ferguson as well as everywhere else. But you don't even know what the comment was so, as I feel about most of your responses in threads, how the F can you know whether it was truly offensive?????
you're right I don't know. I was speculating.
 
Funny, because that's the same amount LSCHMUCKS offered me to come meet him at a bar in NYC and say something to his face, which I gladly would if I were assured of getting the money or not having about twenty hired goons in there to kick my teeth in.

But $5,000 and the requisite amount of schmuckitude sound odd to me.

eta* This was right before I got banned for a week, so I'm assuming trollTim just got keys handed off to him.
i have no idea what you're talking about. I'm sad that you think I'm a troll. I've always liked your posts, especially about punk rock. Lately I've been purchasing music from several artists that I've never heard before which you recommended. Greatly appreciated.
*sighs*

Thanks, tim.

 
i didn't report anyone two weeks ago. I don't recall saying I was going to either. I don't ever recall reporting you . I've been here a long time though so any things possible. If you were suspended for 2 whole months then you must have written something really horrendous so don't blame me for that. In any event I give you my word that I will NEVER report anyone again. Period.
This is a load of crap. This is based upon bias. In fact the person who suspended me said I had a very valid point but the way I posted it was offensive. It was a PC reaction. Unfortunately that's what our society has come to. You see it in Ferguson as well as everywhere else. But you don't even know what the comment was so, as I feel about most of your responses in threads, how the F can you know whether it was truly offensive?????
you're right I don't know. I was speculating.
Gee, what's new? Tim, can you post a thread where people post how long they were suspended for and what the infraction was? Because I guaranf-ingtee you that most people are suspended for relatively minor infractions, and a couple of months isn't very long around here. Especially a few years ago. Things are much more lax now. Do you disagree with anything I've just asserted?

 
Why are you incapable of acknowledging the fact that the order in which the shots hit a body and their location on the body are relevant? This is just mind boggling to me. This is just beyond bizarre.

The fact that witnesses claimed Brown was running away and shot in the back is scary stuff. Do you not think it is relevant that no bullets entered his back? Of course that is relevant. If Officer Wilson says that Brown charged him (which you dispute) do you not think that the order and placement of these bullets is relevant to that testimony. Of course it is relevant.

I can't believe you are being this obtuse. I would almost be surprised if you questioned the point of doing an autopsy.

 
Good Posting Judge I was kidding. I could never accept your money. You're another guy that in sad that you apparently have such disdain for me. I've always enjoyed your posts as well, here and elsewhere.

I get that I'm opinionated, and I can be a bit of a blowhard, but I'm really a pretty nice guy.

 
i didn't report anyone two weeks ago. I don't recall saying I was going to either. I don't ever recall reporting you . I've been here a long time though so any things possible. If you were suspended for 2 whole months then you must have written something really horrendous so don't blame me for that. In any event I give you my word that I will NEVER report anyone again. Period.
This is a load of crap. This is based upon bias. In fact the person who suspended me said I had a very valid point but the way I posted it was offensive. It was a PC reaction. Unfortunately that's what our society has come to. You see it in Ferguson as well as everywhere else. But you don't even know what the comment was so, as I feel about most of your responses in threads, how the F can you know whether it was truly offensive?????
you're right I don't know. I was speculating.
Gee, what's new? Tim, can you post a thread where people post how long they were suspended for and what the infraction was? Because I guaranf-ingtee you that most people are suspended for relatively minor infractions, and a couple of months isn't very long around here. Especially a few years ago. Things are much more lax now. Do you disagree with anything I've just asserted?
i neither agree nor disagree. I've never been suspended except once and that was only for a couple hours . I haven't really followed why people get suspended. I have no opinion to offer.
 
Why are you incapable of acknowledging the fact that the order in which the shots hit a body and their location on the body are relevant? This is just mind boggling to me. This is just beyond bizarre.

The fact that witnesses claimed Brown was running away and shot in the back is scary stuff. Do you not think it is relevant that no bullets entered his back? Of course that is relevant. If Officer Wilson says that Brown charged him (which you dispute) do you not think that the order and placement of these bullets is relevant to that testimony. Of course it is relevant.

I can't believe you are being this obtuse. I would almost be surprised if you questioned the point of doing an autopsy.
in your opinion , do the order of the bullets demonstrate that Brown was charging Wilson? Of so, please explain- I don't mean that as a challenge but I'm afraid I don't understand you . If you have another point to make I don't understand that either. Perhaps I am obtuse; more likely in just dumb. Either way I don't get it.
 
I see someone continues to make this and just about every other thread completely about them.

#HandsUpDontPost

 
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Since President Obama was elected over 725 law enforcement officials have died in the line of duty
Are you suggesting that there is a correlation here?
Apples and oranges. America is armed to the teeth, and the cops have to act differently given the threats they are exposed to. It wasn't until very recently that police in Great Britain even started carrying guns.
Odd to play that card in a discussion regarding this incident.

 
Tim,

I find it repugnant to give the benefit of the doubt to a criminal, and with-hold it from a police officer without significant evidence that it is deserved.The kid was a criminal. He does not deserve the benefit of the doubt.

This should never have reached this level of protest or discussion.

 
I don't get the whole pile on Tim thing. He may not always be correct, but at least he has *some* sense of intellect about him, unlike many others here....

I dunno. Is it because he posts a lot? :shrug:

 
I don't get the whole pile on Tim thing. He may not always be correct, but at least he has *some* sense of intellect about him, unlike many others here....

I dunno. Is it because he posts a lot? :shrug:
It's not the magnitude of posts (though that doesn't help). It's the sheer arrogance in which he expresses an opinion and vaguely or blatantly insults the opposition. He'll often change his stance and immediately start questioning the intelligence/thinking of how anyone could dare to believe what he himself was just taking the side of. It's the fact he regularly asks for information, claims he'll read it later, but never actually gets around to reading it, but goes ahead and asks questions that the ignored post would have answered. Hell, it's the fact he clearly posts articles/links and argues points that he doesn't remotely understand. Among many other issues.

He seems plenty nice and clearly tries hard to fit in. Perhaps I've given him entirely too much credit and he's actually sporting a rather low IQ, but it seems he has some intelligence. He lacks a lot of common sense and seemingly has a low EQ. At times he's a real asset to the board. On a lot of other occasions he's an insufferable pseudo intellectual who inadvertently hijacks quality threads by saying or doing mind numbingly moronic things.

 
I don't get the whole pile on Tim thing. He may not always be correct, but at least he has *some* sense of intellect about him, unlike many others here....

I dunno. Is it because he posts a lot? :shrug:
It's not the magnitude of posts (though that doesn't help). It's the sheer arrogance in which he expresses an opinion and vaguely or blatantly insults the opposition. He'll often change his stance and immediately start questioning the intelligence/thinking of how anyone could dare to believe what he himself was just taking the side of. It's the fact he regularly asks for information, claims he'll read it later, but never actually gets around to reading it, but goes ahead and asks questions that the ignored post would have answered. Hell, it's the fact he clearly posts articles/links and argues points that he doesn't remotely understand. Among many other issues.He seems plenty nice and clearly tries hard to fit in. Perhaps I've given him entirely too much credit and he's actually sporting a rather low IQ, but it seems he has some intelligence. He lacks a lot of common sense and seemingly has a low EQ. At times he's a real asset to the board. On a lot of other occasions he's an insufferable pseudo intellectual who inadvertently hijacks quality threads by saying or doing mind numbingly moronic things.
Fair enough.

 
I like to look at positives. There are several positive results from this affair, IMO:

1. Wilson wasn't indicted, and he wasn't found guilty. From everything I've learned about this case, I think that this was the most just result. Yes, I think that it's likely he wrongfully shot Michael Brown. But it was a spur of the moment decision and he doesn't deserve to go to jail for that. He resigned from the force and I think that was a good result, because based on this incident I don't think he's a very good police officer. But no indictment was the right decision.

2. The protests have generally been peaceful. Yes, there have been some horrible incidents of rioting, but it could have been far worse- in fact, most of us have seen far worse, only 22 years ago in Los Angeles. Most of the businesses that were damaged or looted will be rebuilt with insurance money.

3. The protests, and this entire incident, has brought attention to institutionalized racism by police in this country. I agree with several people who have pointed out that there could have been a better example than the thug Michael Brown. He was no Medgar Evars or Emmitt Till, that's for sure. But the public is discussing this issue and more aware of it, which is how you solve it, and that's a good thing. GrandpaRox seems to believe that the protests (and rioting and looting, which he refuses to distinguish from each other) will justify in people's minds ethnic stereotyping. Maybe it does for him, but I think the public will see it differently.

4. The police in Ferguson and elsewhere will behave differently. The root of the protests is not that Michael Brown is an isolated incident, but that blacks are treated with less dignity than others by police. I believe this incident will help to change that. I think it's already happening.

5. This entire situation will die down, causing me to post about much less often. So you guys won't have to read me as much. Something to look forward to.
Everything I've learned = my wildass speculation based on my preconceived biases.

 
I don't get the whole pile on Tim thing. He may not always be correct, but at least he has *some* sense of intellect about him, unlike many others here....

I dunno. Is it because he posts a lot? :shrug:
Probably because in one post he acts like a pompous know it all, then the next post admits he really doesn't know much about it.

 
I don't get the whole pile on Tim thing. He may not always be correct, but at least he has *some* sense of intellect about him, unlike many others here....

I dunno. Is it because he posts a lot? :shrug:
It's not the magnitude of posts (though that doesn't help). It's the sheer arrogance in which he expresses an opinion and vaguely or blatantly insults the opposition. He'll often change his stance and immediately start questioning the intelligence/thinking of how anyone could dare to believe what he himself was just taking the side of. It's the fact he regularly asks for information, claims he'll read it later, but never actually gets around to reading it, but goes ahead and asks questions that the ignored post would have answered. Hell, it's the fact he clearly posts articles/links and argues points that he doesn't remotely understand. Among many other issues.

He seems plenty nice and clearly tries hard to fit in. Perhaps I've given him entirely too much credit and he's actually sporting a rather low IQ, but it seems he has some intelligence. He lacks a lot of common sense and seemingly has a low EQ. At times he's a real asset to the board. On a lot of other occasions he's an insufferable pseudo intellectual who inadvertently hijacks quality threads by saying or doing mind numbingly moronic things.
Thought this was fairly obvious

 
For sure it did. But remember this wasnt a show trial or anything. Especially when the prosecutor doesnt even know the law. They can indict a ham sandwich, but cant indict a cop who killed an unarmed man. Birds of a feather.

This is a race issue so some are going to take the side they want regardless of facts. Like the fact that people are justifying killing an unarmed man because he stole cigars and walked toward a cop as if the cop has a right to kill someone then get upset at football players in the local community for supporting the cause they are in support of. Amazing the trust people have in the cops honestly.

 
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For sure it did. But remember this wasnt a show trial or anything. Especially when the prosecutor doesnt even know the law. They can indict a ham sandwich, but cant indict a cop who killed an unarmed man. Birds of a feather.

This is a race issue so some are going to take the side they want regardless of facts. Like the fact that people are justifying killing an unarmed man because he stole cigars and walked toward a cop as if the cop has a right to kill someone then get upset at football players in the local community for supporting the cause of police brutality.

Amazing the trust people have in cops honestly.
Why do you think only 6% of black people vote in St. Louis county? Because that's the way to change laws and culture, not by stealing 6 packs of Budweiser and burning cars. I'm betting that exactly 0% of the looters voted in November. You know why? Not because they are oppressed or were suppressed. No, they don't vote because they are lazy ####### morons, and that would actually take some effort.

 
For sure it did. But remember this wasnt a show trial or anything. Especially when the prosecutor doesnt even know the law. They can indict a ham sandwich, but cant indict a cop who killed an unarmed man. Birds of a feather.

This is a race issue so some are going to take the side they want regardless of facts. Like the fact that people are justifying killing an unarmed man because he stole cigars and walked toward a cop as if the cop has a right to kill someone then get upset at football players in the local community for supporting the cause of police brutality.

Amazing the trust people have in cops honestly.
Why do you think only 6% of black people vote in St. Louis county? Because that's the way to change laws and culture, not by stealing 6 packs of Budweiser and burning cars. I'm betting that exactly 0% of the looters voted in November. You know why? Not because they are oppressed or were suppressed. No, they don't vote because they are lazy ####### morons, and that would actually take some effort.
Wow, if this isnt the most racist thing I have seen on this site.

Its so hard for some to hide their hate for others.

Why is it some think everyone from that town looted and are criminals and that only black people looted? I think that says more about the person commenting then it does about the town.

 
Lol, that's what I thought. Why don't you answer the question about the voting? Do you vote? Who did you vote for this past November?

And what part of my post was racist. Obviously most of the picture I saw of the looting were black guys. Not black women. Not Chinese men or women. Not Cubans or Norwegians or Saudis. Nope, they were all black men (I use the term loosely).

 
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Lol, that's what I thought. Why don't you answer the question about the voting? Do you vote? Who did you vote for this past November?

And what part of my post was racist. Obviously most of the picture I saw of the looting were black guys. Not black women. Not Chinese men or women. Not Cubans or Norwegians or Saudis. Nope, they were all black men (I use the term loosely).
I am an opinionated person, you think I dont vote? I vote for things that dont even matter, but what does me voting have to do with anything?

If you have to be told what part is racist thats too bad.

BTW, you will only see the pictures the media will want you to.

 
Lol, that's what I thought. Why don't you answer the question about the voting? Do you vote? Who did you vote for this past November?

And what part of my post was racist. Obviously most of the picture I saw of the looting were black guys. Not black women. Not Chinese men or women. Not Cubans or Norwegians or Saudis. Nope, they were all black men (I use the term loosely).
I am an opinionated person, you think I dont vote? I vote for things that dont even matter, but what does me voting have to do with anything?

If you have to be told what part is racist thats too bad.

BTW, you will only see the pictures the media will want you to.
What's racist in my post? Am I not allowed to talk about race? Being an idiot is universal. I think the Wall Street protesters were idiots too. I doubt many of them voted either. Has nothing to do with race.

 
For sure it did. But remember this wasnt a show trial or anything. Especially when the prosecutor doesnt even know the law. They can indict a ham sandwich, but cant indict a cop who killed an unarmed man. Birds of a feather.

This is a race issue so some are going to take the side they want regardless of facts. Like the fact that people are justifying killing an unarmed man because he stole cigars and walked toward a cop as if the cop has a right to kill someone then get upset at football players in the local community for supporting the cause they are in support of. Amazing the trust people have in the cops honestly.
Kind of like justifying millions of dollars in property damage because a cop shot a suspect.

 

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