Lost Connections - Johann Hari (1 Viewer)

[Joe Bryant]

I've started reading this book. Lost Connections by Johann Hari.

Anyone know it or have an opinion on it?

I have someone close to me dealing with Depression and Anxiety. 

I'm a few chapters in. His premise so far is Anti Depression medicine is largely ineffective. 

I'm assuming he'll get to what he does feel is effective. 

Anyone have insights on Hari or the book? Much thanks. 

 

[Mister CIA]

I've started reading this book. Lost Connections by Johann Hari.

Anyone know it or have an opinion on it?

I have someone close to me dealing with Depression and Anxiety. 

I'm a few chapters in. His premise so far is Anti Depression medicine is largely ineffective. 

I'm assuming he'll get to what he does feel is effective. 

Anyone have insights on Hari or the book? Much thanks. 

Not an a direct response, but if you dial up Sam Harris' Making Sense podcast and seek November 12, 2018, you'll find a two hour interview. 

Relistening to it now. I have an audible token to burn and I might go with this. 

 

[Joe Bryant]

Also, he's been on Joe Rogan a couple of times it looks like https://youtu.be/DQUgd9GQtoQ . and  https://youtu.be/CDpjvFn4wgM

 

[Joe Bryant]

Excellent TED talk here on this. 

https://youtu.be/MB5IX-np5fE

 

[Joe Bryant]

"Your depression is not a malfunction, it's a signal."

 

[wikkidpissah]

The woman i respect most in this world is positively proselytic about this guy. She's just wild about Hari. A little namby-pamby for my tastes, but one could choose worse guides.

 

[Joe Summer]

I tend to be skeptical of people who say "X is the wrong way of doing things".......but then they only give you bits and pieces about what they think the real solution is.

It makes me feel like they aren't confident in their solution, and that they feel like they need to first convince me that "X" is the worst thing in the world before I could even possibly think about an alternative.

Well, my brain doesn't work like that. I need to see your hypothesis before I can digest the rest of the argument.

 

[Joe Bryant]

I tend to be skeptical of people who say "X is the wrong way of doing things".......but then they only give you bits and pieces about what they think the real solution is.

It makes me feel like they aren't confident in their solution, and that they feel like they need to first convince me that "X" is the worst thing in the world before I could even possibly think about an alternative.

Well, my brain doesn't work like that. I need to see your hypothesis before I can digest the rest of the argument.

Hi @Joe Summer

It's been 6 months since I've read the book but it's my recollection he's pretty clear not to make definitive "X is wrong" type stuff. Even in the TED talk, he was clear to acknowledge for some, it's purely biological. 

In a short TED talk, there are limits to how much one can go into the solution. For the book, Lost Connections, I didn't feel at all like he only gave bits and pieces. 

 

[Hawks64]

In my experience with people I know that deal with this, meds help some people but it's not a definitive for anyone. Lots of trying different meds and dosages. The bigger piece is supportive family/friend structure as well as therapy single and/or group.

Unfortunately, there is a serious stigma around mental illness, especially in this country, so people tend to not get the support they need outside of therapy.

 

[E Street Brat]

They got my meds right on the second try. 

I won't be all dramatic and say they saved my life, but they certainly saved my marriage.   

 

[Rattle and Hum]

@Joe 8ryant how did things work out for the person close to you?