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Lowest rated World Series ever (1 Viewer)

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Fox's presentation of the World Series limped to a conclusion Wednesday night, overshadowed in the media by a political infomercial. It was a humbling finish to the hallowed annual tradition, which this season seemed cursed from the very start.

The Series was saddled with two teams -- the Philadelphia Phillies and Tampa Bay Rays -- without a national following. Poor weather pushed the start time of Saturday night's Game 3 past 10 p.m., with the game concluding at nearly 2 in the morning. On Monday, rain played a role again, resulting in Game 5 being suspended after six innings -- a World Series first. Not to mention, the Phillies dominance zapped the latter games of any suspense that might have otherwise convinced viewers to tune in.

By the time Game 5 resumed on Wednesday following Barack Obama's primetime ad, the whole affair seemed to want to be put out of its misery. The Phillies won the final game and the Series, their second World Championship ever.

The ratings, as one might expect, were not pretty.

The World Series has been on a general downward trend for the last several years and this round easily became The Lowest Rated Ever.

The series averaged 13.6 million viewers, down 14% from the last five-game series in 2006. Compared to last year, the Series was down 20%. Among adults 18-49, the Series averaged a 4.4 rating, down 21%. The Series also included the lowest-rated game ever -- Game 3 was the least-watched Series outing since Nielsen started tracking the Championships in 1968.

This is not Fox's fault, of course. But it's the sporting event roulette wheel the network spins each year. And this turn resulted in dull teams (to a national audience, at least), disastrous weather and viewers distracted by a nail-biting presidential election.

"This World Series got off to a solid start last week and was poised to build momentum as we expected it to," said Fox Sports president Ed Goren. "The rain delay on Saturday and suspended game on Monday, combined with going only five games, obviously worked against the Series reaching its maximum viewership potential."

"But even with that," he added, "Fox was No. 1 most nights, posted some of its best nights in many weeks and was No. 1 last week in prime time."

As Goren pointed out, the Series still managed to pull competitive ratings and helped boost the network into first place last week. It just wasn't the sports powerhouse that makes disrupting your entire fall schedule seem worth the trouble. The relatively brief conclusion of Wednesday night’s Game 5 (19.8 million, 6.3) was the most-watched portion of the Series.

 
Of course, it has nothing to do with the fact that many folks on the east coast, knowing that they can't commit to staying up until 12:30am, find something else to watch or otherwise do with their time. I'm sure FOX and MLB have already figured out that has nothing to do with their abysmal ratings.

 
Dumbest argument ever. The vast majority of MLB's revenues come from the regular season. For most teams, attendance and local TV ratings have been improving. The World Series isn't a "national holiday" type event like the Super Bowl is, and never will be. Its ratings are a poor indicator of the actual popularity of the sport.

 
Dumbest argument ever. The vast majority of MLB's revenues come from the regular season. For most teams, attendance and local TV ratings have been improving. The World Series isn't a "national holiday" type event like the Super Bowl is, and never will be. Its ratings are a poor indicator of the actual popularity of the sport.
Then why did the ratings used to be higher?
 
I don't care either.

There's a lot of so-called baseball fans out there who only follow the bigger teams like the Sox and the Yankees. Also, Buck and McCarver were pretty bad in announcing this World Series, IMO.

 
Dumbest argument ever. The vast majority of MLB's revenues come from the regular season. For most teams, attendance and local TV ratings have been improving. The World Series isn't a "national holiday" type event like the Super Bowl is, and never will be. Its ratings are a poor indicator of the actual popularity of the sport.
Then why did the ratings used to be higher?
Seriously?
 
On the licensed side...the Philly market is exploding.

It will likely be the #2 of all-time, behind Boston in '04. Neighborhood of $120M at retail.

 
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Of course, it has nothing to do with the fact that many folks on the east coast, knowing that they can't commit to staying up until 12:30am, find something else to watch or otherwise do with their time. I'm sure FOX and MLB have already figured out that has nothing to do with their abysmal ratings.
:unsure: I know people who only watched the 3 inning game for this exact reason.
 
Leroy Hoard said:
Of course, it has nothing to do with the fact that many folks on the east coast, knowing that they can't commit to staying up until 12:30am, find something else to watch or otherwise do with their time. I'm sure FOX and MLB have already figured out that has nothing to do with their abysmal ratings.
:lmao: I know people who only watched the 3 inning game for this exact reason.
If you push start up to 7PM EST, you have the same problem with West Coast viewers. The TV networks don't know much, but they do know ratings.They could push the start time up for weekend games though.
 
The Phillies and Rays need to build up a "brand name" for themselves. If they can return to the series multiple times in short order, then they can build their cred in the eyes of the casual fan and become a better draw. If Philadelphia can repeat, thy stop being the Phillies and become THE PHILLIES.

The hype surrounding Tom Brady and the Patriots was no where it was it is now after they won their first ring. A lot of people considered that win a fluke. The Raiders were robbed. Martz was stubborn with his playcalling. Now, you hear none of that. Now they are THE PATRIOTS, and people will tune in, if only to hope to see them get knocked off.

But this world series was about building the brand name of 2 teams new to the limelight. It will take more than one year.

 
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Leroy Hoard said:
Of course, it has nothing to do with the fact that many folks on the east coast, knowing that they can't commit to staying up until 12:30am, find something else to watch or otherwise do with their time. I'm sure FOX and MLB have already figured out that has nothing to do with their abysmal ratings.
:rolleyes: I know people who only watched the 3 inning game for this exact reason.
If you push start up to 7PM EST, you have the same problem with West Coast viewers. The TV networks don't know much, but they do know ratings.They could push the start time up for weekend games though.
That's not the case with the Super Bowl and the NFL playoffs though? Why not base it on the region? For something like Tampa/Philly..there was no reason that the first pitch couldn't have been at 7:45 or 8PM.
 
The Phillies and Rays need to build up a "brand name" for themselves. If they can return to the series multiple times in short order, then they can build their cred in the eyes of the casual fan and become a better draw. If Philadelphia can repeat, thy stop being the Phillies and become THE PHILLIES.The hype surrounding Tom Brady and the Patriots was no where it was it is now after they won their first ring. A lot of people considered that win a fluke. The Raiders were robbed. Martz was stubborn with his playcalling. Now, you hear none of that. Now they are THE PATIROTS, and people will tune in, if only to hope to see them get knocked off.But this world series was about building the brand name of 2 teams new to the limelight. It will take more than one year.
PATIROTS :unsure:
 
Leroy Hoard said:
Of course, it has nothing to do with the fact that many folks on the east coast, knowing that they can't commit to staying up until 12:30am, find something else to watch or otherwise do with their time. I'm sure FOX and MLB have already figured out that has nothing to do with their abysmal ratings.
:goodposting: I know people who only watched the 3 inning game for this exact reason.
If you push start up to 7PM EST, you have the same problem with West Coast viewers. The TV networks don't know much, but they do know ratings.They could push the start time up for weekend games though.
That's not the case with the Super Bowl and the NFL playoffs though? Why not base it on the region? For something like Tampa/Philly..there was no reason that the first pitch couldn't have been at 7:45 or 8PM.
NFL playoff games are always on weekends.I miss World Series weekend days games but ratings would be even worse if they were competing against football
 
Dumbest argument ever. The vast majority of MLB's revenues come from the regular season. For most teams, attendance and local TV ratings have been improving. The World Series isn't a "national holiday" type event like the Super Bowl is, and never will be. Its ratings are a poor indicator of the actual popularity of the sport.
Then why did the ratings used to be higher?
Seriously?
I have many theories, but I don't understand how any of what Pip says has to do with why this year's WS ratings were lower.
 
Who really gives a crap what their ratings were? I blame this on MLB and ESPN. They are the ones who push and promote the big market teams. On ESPN, it is all about the Yankees and Red Sox, so how can they expect casual fans to give a crap about a WS not involving either? They can't. Heck, I even remember ESPN on Baseball Tonight this past season, asking if the Rays success hurt the Red Sox/Yankees rivalry. Because we all know that the Red Sox and Yankees are all that matter. :wall:

 
I've been a die hard Phillies fan for as long as I can remember. Suffering through many heartbreak seasons while watching new teams like Arizona and Florida step into the league only to win a Series a couple of years later. I watched ever single second of the coverage of this World Series and have been on a euphoric high since they won on Wednesday night. Minutes after the victory, I cut short a business trip and purchased tickets to Philly to go watch the parade that I had waited my entire life to see. Without a doubt, the joy that I've felt the past couple of days is the greatest feeling I've ever had. That may seem stupid, but I (as do a lot of Phillies fans) feel like we were part of this team.

I've experienced winning on almost every level of every sport growing up, yet for some reason this felt better than any win I've actually been directly involved in.

But if its true, and this Series was the lowest rated ever, then screw it. I guess those feelings I had meant nothing. Maybe next year we can just cancel the regular season games and have the Yankees play the Red Sox in the World Series. That way the ratings are good and I'll be truly happy to watch it.

I'm truly amazed at how brainwashed people have become to draw a conclusion that poor ratings = boring Series. If the Nielson Ratings came out and it turned out I was the only person who watched the Phillies win, it would have no bearing on how great the Series was or how much I enjoyed it.

 
If it would have been a Red Sox/Cubs World Series, given the same weather and time starts, the ratings would have been huge. I think the 2 teams playing had the largest effect on the ratings.

 
TheIronSheik said:
I've been a die hard Phillies fan for as long as I can remember. Suffering through many heartbreak seasons while watching new teams like Arizona and Florida step into the league only to win a Series a couple of years later. I watched ever single second of the coverage of this World Series and have been on a euphoric high since they won on Wednesday night. Minutes after the victory, I cut short a business trip and purchased tickets to Philly to go watch the parade that I had waited my entire life to see. Without a doubt, the joy that I've felt the past couple of days is the greatest feeling I've ever had. That may seem stupid, but I (as do a lot of Phillies fans) feel like we were part of this team. I've experienced winning on almost every level of every sport growing up, yet for some reason this felt better than any win I've actually been directly involved in. But if its true, and this Series was the lowest rated ever, then screw it. I guess those feelings I had meant nothing. Maybe next year we can just cancel the regular season games and have the Yankees play the Red Sox in the World Series. That way the ratings are good and I'll be truly happy to watch it.I'm truly amazed at how brainwashed people have become to draw a conclusion that poor ratings = boring Series. If the Nielson Ratings came out and it turned out I was the only person who watched the Phillies win, it would have no bearing on how great the Series was or how much I enjoyed it.
:goodposting: Are ticket sales a good barometer on how good a movie is? (Think Titanic, Beverly Hills little annoying dog, etc) I think not..
 
The Phiiles and Rays fans sure do not care.

Congrats to both. :confused:

I love it when two teams without national followings make it to any championship game.

 
In this day and age with more channel options and more ways to watch the game (internet, cell phones) - ratings will never be the same that they once were.

Unless you have stock in Fox, who cares?

 
If the Tampa Bay Bucs played the Philadelphia Eagles in the Super Bowl (I know they can't, indulge me), the ratings would still be through the roof.

Same markets, same small national followings. I'm sure everybody here though can figure out the difference.

 
Who really gives a crap what their ratings were? I blame this on MLB and ESPN. They are the ones who push and promote the big market teams. On ESPN, it is all about the Yankees and Red Sox, so how can they expect casual fans to give a crap about a WS not involving either? They can't. Heck, I even remember ESPN on Baseball Tonight this past season, asking if the Rays success hurt the Red Sox/Yankees rivalry. Because we all know that the Red Sox and Yankees are all that matter. :thumbup:
Not just a :D but an EXCELLENT one.
 

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