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LT to J-E-T-S (1 Viewer)
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Johnny Ice
Footballguy
Did he get bionic legs over the offseason, if not 
Gopher State
Footballguy
LT=MR TD--He be a great goal line back for the JETS
while I'll still cheer for my Titans (of course), if the Jets win it all this year I won't be too disappointed.
TenTimes
Backhoe Operator
Can't wait to see how much $$ they gave him.
Crash Davis
Footballguy
I'm hearing 5.2 million over 2 years. So clearly less than Jones was going to make if they didn't release him, but more than the Chiefs paid for him.
Cassius
Footballguy
Really? I thought he was in the last year of his contract.If that's correct then this looks pretty stupid.
Crash Davis
Footballguy
No, they owed him 5.8 this year. Horsec is incorrect.
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cstu
Footballguy
Leon only has a 2nd round tender and the 49ers are apparently interested. The Jets could match but I think they let him go and take the 2nd if he's signed. I think they would sign him in a heartbeat if they knew he was healthy but they only have until April 14 to decide that and get a contract done.
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Cassius
Footballguy
Uhh they released Jones. They didn't have a chance to "match" anything. They cut him.Also, this is for two years of LT whereas that number was for 1 year of Thomas Jones.I still am not sure if it was a good decision, but at least know the reasons why.The Jets were given the chance to match the $5 million offer the Chiefs made to Jones and they declined. But they're willing to pay $100,000 more for LT2?
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ninerfan
Footballguy
Here's the linkhttp://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpag...8&sport=NflUhh they released Jones. They didn't have a chance to "match" anything. They cut him.Also, this is for two years of LT whereas that number was for 1 year of Thomas Jones.The Jets were given the chance to match the $5 million offer the Chiefs made to Jones and they declined. But they're willing to pay $100,000 more for LT2?
I still am not sure if it was a good decision, but at least know the reasons why.
Jason Wood
Zoo York
I thought the Jets should've paid Jones his money, but in all fairness this is about half the financial commitment. Jones was due a roster bonus and a salary that was roughly $5mm this year.
Cassius
Footballguy
My bad, I thought you meant match in an official way, like Jones was a restricted FA or something.That does seem questionable, if true.Here's the linkhttp://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpag...8&sport=NflUhh they released Jones. They didn't have a chance to "match" anything. They cut him.Also, this is for two years of LT whereas that number was for 1 year of Thomas Jones.The Jets were given the chance to match the $5 million offer the Chiefs made to Jones and they declined. But they're willing to pay $100,000 more for LT2?
I still am not sure if it was a good decision, but at least know the reasons why.
NorrisB
Footballguy
Im sure what he's trying to say is that TJ negotiated with them after he was released and the agent/TJ gave him the chance to matchUhh they released Jones. They didn't have a chance to "match" anything. They cut him.Also, this is for two years of LT whereas that number was for 1 year of Thomas Jones.I still am not sure if it was a good decision, but at least know the reasons why.The Jets were given the chance to match the $5 million offer the Chiefs made to Jones and they declined. But they're willing to pay $100,000 more for LT2?
None_More_Black
Footballguy
He is talking Jones' new deal with KC which is 2 years for 5 million. Jones (or his agent) could certainly have let the Jets know about the deal and let them know that he would resign for the same amount of money offered by KC. The Jets declined and actually paid LT more money. Of course the signing bonuses of the two contracts have not been specified so that could have been the difference.Uhh they released Jones. They didn't have a chance to "match" anything. They cut him.Also, this is for two years of LT whereas that number was for 1 year of Thomas Jones.I still am not sure if it was a good decision, but at least know the reasons why.The Jets were given the chance to match the $5 million offer the Chiefs made to Jones and they declined. But they're willing to pay $100,000 more for LT2?
mozzy84
Footballguy
and probably half the player
David Yudkin
Footballguy
From what I read, the Jets were given the chance to match what Jones got and declined. So unless they think LT is better than Jones this one is a head scratcher.
Wyld Stallyns
Footballguy
I have no idea how this will all play out or anything, but I do know that the Jets will be one of the teams I'll be cheering for next year. Would love to see LT win a ring before he's done.
ScottyFargo
Footballguy
I bet he does pretty well behind that line. With the circumstances surrounding Minnesota's QB situation it is not surprising that he went with NYJ given the fact he knew Schottenheimer OC, Sanchez a known at QB and a great D. Minnesota has a much more solid situation at RB in front of him, plus turf, plus it means he's spending time in MN instead of outside NYC during the season. I can't blame him, and I expect a slight bounce back from him this year. Good for the Jets and LT imo.
TenTimes
Backhoe Operator
??As a Vikings fan, or LT owner?
Avery
Footballguy
A lot of people on this board are saying how good Jones is, but the evidence is clearly that Rex Ryan and the Jets didn't want him back.The only answers I can think of are either:1. The Jets don't think he's as good as many here.2. The Jets don't think that Jones would accept a more secondary role without causing issues in the locker room.3. The Jets are incompetent.There could be other answers, but those are the three that come to mind.I'm thinking it's a combination of 1 and 2.
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It's a lot harder to be "the man" and ahead of everyone on your team or organization, then for performance or preference fall behind people who you previously were in front of. Football or business, going to another place and getting a fresh start instead of being demoted on your own team is often more attractive.
When you go somewhere new, you appreciate the opportunity a little more. When you are knocked down and stay, I'm guessing bitterness creeps in. Fairly standard human reactions, so having both (TJ/LT) move is probably better than having them stay and be sore about it.
When you go somewhere new, you appreciate the opportunity a little more. When you are knocked down and stay, I'm guessing bitterness creeps in. Fairly standard human reactions, so having both (TJ/LT) move is probably better than having them stay and be sore about it.
TLEF316
Footballguy
The jets feel the system is plug and play at this point (mostly due to what has been a very consistent and good O-line). In addition, LT brings some dimensions (mostly pass catching) that neither Greene or TJ brought to the table. Leon obviously can catch, but they have no idea what they can get out of him next year. If a team with a pick in the top 1/2 of the 2nd round offers him a contract, i think the jets should let him go and take the pick.
I'm a big Leon fan. I was from day 1. But the previous coaching staff had no idea how to use him and I've seen no indication that current staff will be any different. If LT can hold up as a backup (they'd have to add a 3rd back from somewhere, most likely the middle rounds of the draft) and they spin Leon into a 2nd rounder (which I'd prefer to see used on a young O-lineman to replace faneca or woody) they'll be just fine.
All that being said, if TJ wasn't due a 5 million dollar roster bonus, he'd be on the Jets this year. But thats salary cap football.
I'm a big Leon fan. I was from day 1. But the previous coaching staff had no idea how to use him and I've seen no indication that current staff will be any different. If LT can hold up as a backup (they'd have to add a 3rd back from somewhere, most likely the middle rounds of the draft) and they spin Leon into a 2nd rounder (which I'd prefer to see used on a young O-lineman to replace faneca or woody) they'll be just fine.
All that being said, if TJ wasn't due a 5 million dollar roster bonus, he'd be on the Jets this year. But thats salary cap football.
TenTimes
Backhoe Operator
Hard to be disappointed by 1400 yards. I think we can rule out #1.
Avery
Footballguy
Perhaps the Jets credit the 1400 yards more to their O-line than Jones "special" skills looking forward, not back.
DesmondBishop
Footballguy
Agree 100%, makes no sense to me. If your going to pay someone, why not pay the better guy that also knows the system.
Avery
Footballguy
So you're saying my "option 2".I think that has a lot to do with it as well. Again, I have no special evidence, just circumstantial evidence and my suppositions.
Ron_Mexico
I Love Doggies
NYJ could have still resigned TJ after cutting him for cost saving measures.Definitely a downgrade from TJ to LT.Horsec said:
NeverEnough
Footballguy
Does anyone see this effecting Greene's fantasy production NEGATIVELY?
Young 8
Footballguy
no, it will affect Leon Washington....his days are probably numbered
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TenTimes
Backhoe Operator
Short-term, but it helps long-term.
Cassius
Footballguy
Probably not as much as TJ did, but obviously Greene's outlook today is less optimistic than yesterday. Although, I think even the most enthusiastic Greene owners had to know the Jets were going to bring someone in. LT2 isn't the worst guy for Greene, but he's far from a scrub. I think he'll do well behind this line and probably get looks near the goal line.
