LT's "Turf Toe" Quotes (1 Viewer)

[Maven]

The Chronicles of a Big Toe

****************UPDATE*****************

Friday, September 17, 2008

Chargers beat writer Kevin Acee said on NFL Network's Team Cam program that he expects Darren Sproles to get more carries than LaDainian Tomlinson on Monday night.

Acee said Tomlinson's toe is too painful for him to consistently push off and make moves horizontally. Acee also indicated that LT may only get around 10 carries against the Jets, just like last week.

LaDainian Tomlinson did not sound very positive when discussing his toe injury after Friday's practice according to ESPN.com. "It went OK," Tomlinson said. "I did what I wanted to do. I didn't expect to do full participation but I wanted to get out and do some stuff running the football. It definitely is a lot better than last week. That's the exciting part about it. But at that same time, I'm going to be realistic about it. I'm pretty sure on Monday, I'll probably still have a little problem with it but it will be a week better."

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Sunday, Sept 7, 2008

Reigning NFL rushing champion LaDainian Tomlinson came out of the season opener with an injured big toe, and though he shrugged it off as nothing serious after the game, and the team did not include it in the injury report, he did say his foot will be examined again Monday.

“It's not anything like Antonio's injury,” Tomlinson said. “Antonio came out in a boot after the game. It's not that bad. People don't need to freak out.” Tomlinson said the injury – he termed it “turf toe” – occurred on his next-to-last carry of the game, when he ran for 9 yards to earn the Chargers a first down at the Carolina 7. “The guy kind of landed on the back of my leg,” Tomlinson said.

Monday, September 8, 2008

Mike Sullivan, of the North County Times, reports San Diego Chargers RB LaDainian Tomlinson(toe) underwent X-rays Monday, Sept. 8, and no damage was discovered. He is expected to play Week 2.

Wednesday, September 10, 2008

LaDainian Tomlinson misses practice



Thursday, September 11, 2008

Chargers RB LaDainian Tomlinson was held out of practice with right big toe injury, but said he will definitely play Week 2. "It is feeling a lot better," he said. "I think the smartest thing to do is just probably rest it. I'll practice. I'm just not sure what day yet. `I'm all right; I will practice tomorrow,'' Tomlinson said. `It's just a sprained toe, that's all. But you try and get as much rest as you can and you have to take it. It's the heat of the season - you don't really have time. You got games; it's not preseason any more. On Sunday, I think I should be pretty good.''

Tomlinson said this injury is the same type and to the same toe as he suffered in 2003, which he described then as turf toe but said now is something "a little different."

Friday, September 12, 2008

LaDainian Tomlinson is listed as questionable on the injury report.

Coach Norv Turner said Tomlinson took approximately half the practice repetitions. "I thought there were times he looked tentative and there were times he looked good," Turner said.

Chargers RB LaDainian Tomlinson (questionable, toe) reiterated after practice Friday that he will play in Week 2 against the Broncos. "Just the way I felt today, being able to run and cut and stuff, that's why I think so," Tomlinson said

Saturday, September 13, 2008

No news



Sunday, September 14, 2008

Week 2 vs Broncos

LT leaves the game and was seen on the bench with ice on his foot during the first half. He returned to play one series during the third quarter, but did not return for the next series.

Week 2: 10 carries, 26 yards, 2.6ypc, 2 rec, 14yds – 4 fantasy points



Monday, September 15, 2008

“It tightened up some, swelled up a little bit,” Tomlinson said. “The one thing I'm happy about is it didn't get any worse after the game. I don't feel any worse than I did last week after the game, which shows it is improving and healing.” Tomlinson carried 10 times for 26 yards and caught two passes for 14 yards. Tomlinson said he did not plan to have the toe examined again. “Last week, I had it looked at,” he said. “Now, I don't want to know.”

Tuesday, September 16, 2008

Kevin Acee, of the San Diego Union-Tribune, reports San Diego Chargers RB LaDainian Tomlinson(toe) said he planned to play through the pain of his sprained big toe. Tomlinson added he expected to play more in Week 3. "This will be a week that I can get a lot more treatment; I've got an extra day," Tomlinson said. "Hopefully, the treatment and the rest will put me pretty much where I want to be. Hopefully, next week I'll be able to be more productive but also play a little bit more. Have some more carries, and do pretty much what I have always been able to do." Tomlinson said he expects to be close to 100 percent by Week 4 versus the Oakland Raiders.

Chargers running back LaDainian Tomlinson said he isn't sensing that his toe will ail him over the next three-to-four weeks. He was restricted to 10 carries on Sunday. "No, no, no, I'm not sensing that at all," he said. "I'll be very surprised if I have to deal with this to injury for another three weeks."

Wednesday, September 17, 2008

LaDainian Tomlinson did not participate in practice

Tomlinson, who has yet to find his way into the end zone this season, said his jammed right big toe isn't as sore as it has been, but he didn't sound overly confident.

"Well, with another day of rest and treatment, it's feeling a little better today, so hopefully, I'm just going to play it by ear this week, see how it feels later in the week," he said. "I'm hoping that it's going to make big progress this week and by Monday night hopefully I'll be as close to 100% as possible."

"I feel better than last week," Tomlinson said. "If I'm judging by last week, I should be able to play."

Tomlinson hurt the toe on the Chargers' last drive of a 26-24 home loss to Carolina on opening day. He said he aggravated it against the AFC West rival Broncos.

"A little bit. But I expected that," he said. "That's going to happen, especially so much contact you take. I took a couple of shots on it. That's the thing, when teams know you have a problem, they're going to attack that certain area sometimes, to test it out, make sure you're healthy."

So that's why NFL teams like to lie about injuries?

"Exactly," Tomlinson said.

"I'd like to see LaDainian practice, but if his toe doesn't let him practice, it doesn't," coach Norv Turner said. "We'll make the best out of the situation, what it is. L.T., I believe he's better than he was at this time last week. He's still got soreness, did not do anything today. We'll see where he is as the week goes on."

Thursday September 18, 2008

San Diego Chargers RB LaDainian Tomlinson sat out of practice for the second straight day on Thursday because of an injury to his right big toe. Chargers head coach Norv Turner went on to comment that he's not sure Tomlinson will be ready to return to practice on Friday. "He'll come out like he did today, move around a little bit, get treatment, do exercises inside, and I'm sure if he feels like he can go, he will," Turner said.

*****UPDATE******

Friday, September 19, 2008

Chargers beat writer Kevin Acee said on NFL Network's Team Cam program that he expects Darren Sproles to get more carries than LaDainian Tomlinson on Monday night.

Acee said Tomlinson's toe is too painful for him to consistently push off and make moves horizontally. Acee also indicated that LT may only get around 10 carries against the Jets, just like last week.

LaDainian Tomlinson did not sound very positive when discussing his toe injury after Friday's practice according to ESPN.com. "It went OK," Tomlinson said. "I did what I wanted to do. I didn't expect to do full participation but I wanted to get out and do some stuff running the football. It definitely is a lot better than last week. That's the exciting part about it. But at that same time, I'm going to be realistic about it. I'm pretty sure on Monday, I'll probably still have a little problem with it but it will be a week better."

 

[GDogg]

What is he not saying?

 

[tomarken]

What is he not saying?

Torn ACL.

 

[Banger]

What is he not saying?

Torn ACL.

Good job putting the quotes together but I don't see the smoking gun...

 

[jerseydevil20]

What is he not saying?

Same reaction here. I don't recall LT ever saying that it feels better after the injury originally occurred. Maybe that the OP's point?

 

[Buckeyedawgs]

He looked like he was in pain when they showed him on bench with ice on his foot during game.

I've been on the Sproiles bandwagon since July and even inserted him into some starting line-ups this week L.T. or not! Though I thought it would be the knee, not a toe!

Feel welcome to hop on board! Sproiles actually has looked better then L.T. for some time now IMO!

 

[-jb-]

Either the real injury is to LT's bagina, or it's more serious than it's being made out to be. You don't miss as much PT as he did during a game where you could potentially (and ultimately do) fall 3 games back in your division.

 

[noneother]

Either the real injury is to LT's bagina, or it's more serious than it's being made out to be. You don't miss as much PT as he did during a game where you could potentially (and ultimately do) fall 3 games back in your division.

this is a good perspective, as a Sprole/Hester poacher, I made need to increase my ASK on them... was only going to ask for Mbush...

 

[Scooby1974]

He looked like he was in pain when they showed him on bench with ice on his foot during game. I've been on the Sproiles bandwagon since July and even inserted him into some starting line-ups this week L.T. or not! Though I thought it would be the knee, not a toe! Feel welcome to hop on board! Sproiles actually has looked better then L.T. for some time now IMO!

"Sproiles? Who is that guy? What bandwagon does he have rollin'?" Sincerely, Darren Sproles.

 

[switz]

Either the real injury is to LT's bagina, or it's more serious than it's being made out to be. You don't miss as much PT as he did during a game where you could potentially (and ultimately do) fall 3 games back in your division.

Or it is what it is, and you'd rather lose a game early than miss more time and lose more games...

 

[Ozymandias]

He looked like he was in pain when they showed him on bench with ice on his foot during game. I've been on the Sproiles bandwagon since July and even inserted him into some starting line-ups this week L.T. or not! Though I thought it would be the knee, not a toe! Feel welcome to hop on board! Sproiles actually has looked better then L.T. for some time now IMO!

To really get on his bandwagon, you need to learn his name. Otherwise, you might have boarded the wrong bandwagon.

 

[-jb-]

Either the real injury is to LT's bagina, or it's more serious than it's being made out to be. You don't miss as much PT as he did during a game where you could potentially (and ultimately do) fall 3 games back in your division.

Or it is what it is, and you'd rather lose a game early than miss more time and lose more games...

my conjecture versus your own. save the condescending .

 

[PatsFan72]

Whatever it is, it's worse than what they originally thought, and it seems like he just doesn't want to sound like he's being weak, like he was criticized for during the end of the playoff game last year against the Patriots.

-Signed, A Very Happy Darren Sproles Owner Who's Trying to Trade with the LT Owner

 

[switz]

Either the real injury is to LT's bagina, or it's more serious than it's being made out to be. You don't miss as much PT as he did during a game where you could potentially (and ultimately do) fall 3 games back in your division.

Or it is what it is, and you'd rather lose a game early than miss more time and lose more games...

my conjecture versus your own. save the condescending .

The wasn't meant as condescending... but I do believe you are looking at this from the wrong angle.

 

[Maven]

Anyone find LT has reasons to lie about this injury?

 

[ImTheScientist]

I think half of you are VERY paranoid. Is this your first fantasy football season by any chance?

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

I think half of you are VERY paranoid. Is this your first fantasy football season by any chance?

I had to read this thread, because I knew your post would have a negative connotation to it.

 

[bonesman]

Anyone find LT has reasons to lie about this injury?

Yes... to give the opposing coaching staff more work having to game plan for the Chargers like he's going to play... and possibly a plan B if he doesn't.

 

[JamesTheScot]

Either the real injury is to LT's bagina, or it's more serious than it's being made out to be. You don't miss as much PT as he did during a game where you could potentially (and ultimately do) fall 3 games back in your division.

Or it is what it is, and you'd rather lose a game early than miss more time and lose more games...

What are you disagreeing with him over?If they were erring on the side of caution, they would have sat him for the whole game. They needed him, he tried, and he couldn't get it done. That sniffs of a more serious problem than what it is being let on. Either the toe was worse than what was being let on when the game started, or LT aggravated it by playing during the game. If LT started the game but didn't finish it, that would indicate that something changed in the middle of the game. Either the injury changed, or the understanding of the injury changed. Unfortuantely, neither one of these possibilities is being acknowledged, which means we aren't exactly getting the "it is what is" truth from LT or the Chargers.I'm sure LT, after taking all the criticism he did last year, is going to try and downplay the injury and the possibility of missing any time. If he took grief over his knee, imagine the uproar over his toe. I fully believe it's worse than what's being reported.

 

[heidbrink]

I think half of you are VERY paranoid. Is this your first fantasy football season by any chance?

Just because you are not paranoid does not mean they aren't out to get you.

 

[ImTheScientist]

I think half of you are VERY paranoid. Is this your first fantasy football season by any chance?

Just because you are not paranoid does not mean they aren't out to get you.

Why did people draft LT? Because he more than likely will be a TOP 5 RB this year. We have only had 2 weeks thus far and people are freaking out. If this was week 6 and things were still not happening for him then I would say there is reason to be concerned.

 

[Maven]

Anyone find LT has reasons to lie about this injury?

Yes... to give the opposing coaching staff more work having to game plan for the Chargers like he's going to play... and possibly a plan B if he doesn't.

True, but I mean personally...for himself. With him going out like he did in the Playoffs last year and wanting to prove his naysayers wrong, I don't think he wants to appear soft again.IMO I think this attitude of proving he's tough will lead to further damage to his "turf toe/toe sprain".

 

[Mookie Blaylock]

When was the last time LT had a good first 4 weeks of the season?

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

I think half of you are VERY paranoid. Is this your first fantasy football season by any chance?

Just because you are not paranoid does not mean they aren't out to get you.

Why did people draft LT? Because he more than likely will be a TOP 5 RB this year. We have only had 2 weeks thus far and people are freaking out. If this was week 6 and things were still not happening for him then I would say there is reason to be concerned.

I agree with you that it's not time to panic regarding LT2. Anyone trading him for cheap right now is just showing their guppyness, even if they get lucky and he's out for an extended time to justify their trades.

 

[JamesTheScot]

I think half of you are VERY paranoid. Is this your first fantasy football season by any chance?

Just because you are not paranoid does not mean they aren't out to get you.

Why did people draft LT? Because he more than likely will be a TOP 5 RB this year. We have only had 2 weeks thus far and people are freaking out. If this was week 6 and things were still not happening for him then I would say there is reason to be concerned.

People drafted him to be a top 5 RB and if he has as lingering toe injury which will keep him from being a top 10 RB, or maybe even a top 20 RB, people would rather know sooner than later so they won't have to suffer through 4 more weeks of disappointment (and maybe H2H losses) before making a move to replace him. That's not freakin' out, that's trying to get ahead of the curve on divining LT's future for this season.If the toe injury is the lingering kind, it might be better to move him now than to wait and let the rest of the fantasy football world catch on and lower his trade value as the season wears on.

 

[switz]

Either the real injury is to LT's bagina, or it's more serious than it's being made out to be. You don't miss as much PT as he did during a game where you could potentially (and ultimately do) fall 3 games back in your division.

Or it is what it is, and you'd rather lose a game early than miss more time and lose more games...

What are you disagreeing with him over?If they were erring on the side of caution, they would have sat him for the whole game. They needed him, he tried, and he couldn't get it done. That sniffs of a more serious problem than what it is being let on. Either the toe was worse than what was being let on when the game started, or LT aggravated it by playing during the game. If LT started the game but didn't finish it, that would indicate that something changed in the middle of the game. Either the injury changed, or the understanding of the injury changed. Unfortuantely, neither one of these possibilities is being acknowledged, which means we aren't exactly getting the "it is what is" truth from LT or the Chargers.

My thinking is more along the lines of... LT feels he's healthy enough to play, but isn't very effective in limited work. Staff feels it's better to rest him and let him heal than play him when he's ineffective, given that they'll need him later in the year.It's not like he hasn't admitted the toe is injured, nor that he re-aggravated it during the game. He admitted he had it looked at after week 1, and that it swelled up during week 2. I'm not sure there's more to it than that...

 

[-jb-]

When was the last time LT had a good first 4 weeks of the season?

He does usually start slow...but this is the first time when there has been an injury in question.

 

[Ozymandias]

If the Chargers are smart, they'd rest him this week. Give it time to heal. They have a capable replacement; he's not All Pro, but he's good.

 

[Buckeyedawgs]

I didn't draft LT for 2 reason. 1. COMMISHES have ways of getting the top pick and now they can eat it! 2. I sensed his knee would be a problem sooner rather then later.

(turned out his toe)

I am a proud Westy owner. Enjoy your 4 pts a week if that while I will enjoy my 4 tds a week along with Sproles (however you spell it) 3.

It's amazeing how many calls I get right in preseason. This goes way back when I picked Tiki every draft late and watched all the expert listeners eat Dayne's useless value. I'll be doing the same Sproles vs L.T. this year.

It's just I had like 15 drafts and commishes had that 1 or 2 pick all of them while I was stuck 7.8,9,10 all but a couple with 4 one time the lowest this year. So I am rubbibng it in to all you commishes that think you have to cheat to get LT each year redraft leagues. My way of shoveing it up your rear end! EAT L.T.! And send me the $$$ in advance.

L.T was a great player! But his top value is coming to an end soon! It started with the knee, now it's the toe. He's not what he used to be and probably will not ever be again!

 

[JamesTheScot]

I think half of you are VERY paranoid. Is this your first fantasy football season by any chance?

Just because you are not paranoid does not mean they aren't out to get you.

Why did people draft LT? Because he more than likely will be a TOP 5 RB this year. We have only had 2 weeks thus far and people are freaking out. If this was week 6 and things were still not happening for him then I would say there is reason to be concerned.

I agree with you that it's not time to panic regarding LT2. Anyone trading him for cheap right now is just showing their guppyness, even if they get lucky and he's out for an extended time to justify their trades.

If you aren't even curious as to whether or not LT has a serious toe issue, then by the time you think it's time to panic it will be too late for you to do much about it other than to cut him or trade him at his lowest value. Waiting until panic time to move someone when there were early indicators is the truest showing of guppiness.

 

[switz]

Waiting until panic time to move someone when there were early indicators is the truest showing of guppiness.

That's a great way to win a debate, insult the people you are trying to convince. Bottom line is that right now, LT's value is probably as low as it's going to get. Even if it comes out he's going to miss a few more games with the toe injury his value will be the same as it is. So there's no Shark move in moving him for something now, especially if he does return to form.

 

[bonesman]

Anyone find LT has reasons to lie about this injury?

Yes... to give the opposing coaching staff more work having to game plan for the Chargers like he's going to play... and possibly a plan B if he doesn't.

True, but I mean personally...for himself. With him going out like he did in the Playoffs last year and wanting to prove his naysayers wrong, I don't think he wants to appear soft again.IMO I think this attitude of proving he's tough will lead to further damage to his "turf toe/toe sprain".

For himself?.... well, I doubt his sponsors/endorsers want to have a spokesperson who isn't taking the field every Sunday.But yea, I agree that outsider perceptions could influence Tomlinson to fight through and worsen an injury that he could get over w/ a couple of weeks in a boot.

 

[switz]

COMMISHES have ways of getting the top pick and now they can eat it!

You play in the wrong leagues.

 

[jurrassic]

I think this whole situation turns into Sproles being pretty productive until week 6, at which time LT comes back and probaby puts up 1200 total yards and 14 td's from week 7 on.

 

[aldelgreco]

I am offering up Portis and J Stewart to a panicky LT owner.

Still hoping he bites. Don't think he will, but there is hope.

 

[jtomm]

i just traded fitz and edge for lt. we shall see

 

[To commish is my wish]

I am offering up Portis and J Stewart to a panicky LT owner.Still hoping he bites. Don't think he will, but there is hope.

He should take that and run for the hills. Why offer so much?

 

[Ice Cream Man]

That's a great way to win a debate, insult the people you are trying to convince. Bottom line is that right now, LT's value is probably as low as it's going to get. Even if it comes out he's going to miss a few more games with the toe injury his value will be the same as it is. So there's no Shark move in moving him for something now, especially if he does return to form.

This statement is contradictory.You seem to be defending the guy making the original statement. But it seems also clear that he's willing to pay a lot for LT2. The trade value for LT2 right now may be the highest its going to get this year. I don't see anyone paying much for him when week 6 rolls around, has 1 or 2 TDs and still has injury problems.

There's nothing wrong with seeing ahead of the curve. Dealing him now makes a lot of sense if you (reasonably) forsee a bad season.

 

[Buckeyedawgs]

I am offering up Portis and J Stewart to a panicky LT owner.Still hoping he bites. Don't think he will, but there is hope.

He should take that and run for the hills. Why offer so much?

I would take that in a heartbeat without a second thought! now the James vs Edge umm possibly depending type of scoring. It's much more fair then Portis and Stewart for sure! If L.T can;t get anything on Denver. (you saw what Sproles did) then he's not gonna get much on anyone!

 

[switz]

That's a great way to win a debate, insult the people you are trying to convince. Bottom line is that right now, LT's value is probably as low as it's going to get. Even if it comes out he's going to miss a few more games with the toe injury his value will be the same as it is. So there's no Shark move in moving him for something now, especially if he does return to form.

This statement is contradictory.You seem to be defending the guy making the original statement. But it seems also clear that he's willing to pay a lot for LT2. The trade value for LT2 right now may be the highest its going to get this year. I don't see anyone paying much for him when week 6 rolls around, has 1 or 2 TDs and still has injury problems.

There's nothing wrong with seeing ahead of the curve. Dealing him now makes a lot of sense if you (reasonably) forsee a bad season.

I'm not sure what I said that you think is contradictory...I wasn't defending anyone, I was pointing out that JamesTheScot's comment was not needed.

If you believe LT's value is higher than it will be in a few weeks, then go ahead and trade him away now. But as the week's pass by, if LT sits, I don't think his value is going to drop anymore, because everyone is gong to be holding out for his return. In fact, if some news comes out that LT is going to be 100% "this" week - his value is going to go up... not down.

There's nothing wrong with seeing ahead of the curve, but we're already in the curve at this point. Unless you think LT will never return, then it's not valuable to trade him if you can afford to keep him.

 

[JamesTheScot]

Either the real injury is to LT's bagina, or it's more serious than it's being made out to be. You don't miss as much PT as he did during a game where you could potentially (and ultimately do) fall 3 games back in your division.

Or it is what it is, and you'd rather lose a game early than miss more time and lose more games...

What are you disagreeing with him over?If they were erring on the side of caution, they would have sat him for the whole game. They needed him, he tried, and he couldn't get it done. That sniffs of a more serious problem than what it is being let on. Either the toe was worse than what was being let on when the game started, or LT aggravated it by playing during the game. If LT started the game but didn't finish it, that would indicate that something changed in the middle of the game. Either the injury changed, or the understanding of the injury changed. Unfortuantely, neither one of these possibilities is being acknowledged, which means we aren't exactly getting the "it is what is" truth from LT or the Chargers.

My thinking is more along the lines of... LT feels he's healthy enough to play, but isn't very effective in limited work. Staff feels it's better to rest him and let him heal than play him when he's ineffective, given that they'll need him later in the year.It's not like he hasn't admitted the toe is injured, nor that he re-aggravated it during the game. He admitted he had it looked at after week 1, and that it swelled up during week 2. I'm not sure there's more to it than that...

We don't know if he aggravated it (made it worse) or if his swelling was simply normal for the injury he had from week 1. That's kind of the point.LT was sure he could play on it Week 2 and be fine...he was wrong.LT said he would not have it looked at again this week despite the fact that is swelled up on him...bad move.LT said it's sure to be healing because it didn't hurt any worse after the week 2 game than it did after the week 1 game...i figured hurting less would be a sign of healing rather than the absence of worse pain. Apparently the status quo is a symptom of healing now.LT says he's going to be fine for week 3...at this point I've stopped listening to LT.That smells to me like LT is trying to tough it out and not disappoint the home crowd like he did with his knee. Commendable and gutsy. I really like the guy. But being a tough guy and not allowing an injury to heal is not going to help his fantasy owners.

 

[thecardiackid]

I didn't draft LT for 2 reason. 1. COMMISHES have ways of getting the top pick and now they can eat it! 2. I sensed his knee would be a problem sooner rather then later.

(turned out his toe)

I am a proud Westy owner. Enjoy your 4 pts a week if that while I will enjoy my 4 tds a week along with Sproles (however you spell it) 3.

It's amazeing how many calls I get right in preseason. This goes way back when I picked Tiki every draft late and watched all the expert listeners eat Dayne's useless value. I'll be doing the same Sproles vs L.T. this year.

It's just I had like 15 drafts and commishes had that 1 or 2 pick all of them while I was stuck 7.8,9,10 all but a couple with 4 one time the lowest this year. So I am rubbibng it in to all you commishes that think you have to cheat to get LT each year redraft leagues. My way of shoveing it up your rear end! EAT L.T.! And send me the $$$ in advance.

L.T was a great player! But his top value is coming to an end soon! It started with the knee, now it's the toe. He's not what he used to be and probably will not ever be again!

What was the point of this? Really...do any of us care about your specific league/draft/evil commish details? Thanks for stroking yourself here in the pool.And the bolded nugget? I'm not normally homophobic, but that makes me go

 

[Maven]

Either the real injury is to LT's bagina, or it's more serious than it's being made out to be. You don't miss as much PT as he did during a game where you could potentially (and ultimately do) fall 3 games back in your division.

Or it is what it is, and you'd rather lose a game early than miss more time and lose more games...

What are you disagreeing with him over?If they were erring on the side of caution, they would have sat him for the whole game. They needed him, he tried, and he couldn't get it done. That sniffs of a more serious problem than what it is being let on. Either the toe was worse than what was being let on when the game started, or LT aggravated it by playing during the game. If LT started the game but didn't finish it, that would indicate that something changed in the middle of the game. Either the injury changed, or the understanding of the injury changed. Unfortuantely, neither one of these possibilities is being acknowledged, which means we aren't exactly getting the "it is what is" truth from LT or the Chargers.

My thinking is more along the lines of... LT feels he's healthy enough to play, but isn't very effective in limited work. Staff feels it's better to rest him and let him heal than play him when he's ineffective, given that they'll need him later in the year.It's not like he hasn't admitted the toe is injured, nor that he re-aggravated it during the game. He admitted he had it looked at after week 1, and that it swelled up during week 2. I'm not sure there's more to it than that...

We don't know if he aggravated it (made it worse) or if his swelling was simply normal for the injury he had from week 1. That's kind of the point.LT was sure he could play on it Week 2 and be fine...he was wrong.LT said he would not have it looked at again this week despite the fact that is swelled up on him...bad move.LT said it's sure to be healing because it didn't hurt any worse after the week 2 game than it did after the week 1 game...i figured hurting less would be a sign of healing rather than the absence of worse pain. Apparently the status quo is a symptom of healing now.LT says he's going to be fine for week 3...at this point I've stopped listening to LT.That smells to me like LT is trying to tough it out and not disappoint the home crowd like he did with his knee. Commendable and gutsy. I really like the guy. But being a tough guy and not allowing an injury to heal is not going to help his fantasy owners.

EXACTLY THE POINT OF THE THREAD!Dude is just trying to appear tough IMO. I agree with your whole post.

 

[everydayj]

I didn't draft LT for 2 reason. 1. COMMISHES have ways of getting the top pick and now they can eat it! 2. I sensed his knee would be a problem sooner rather then later.

(turned out his toe)

I am a proud Westy owner. Enjoy your 4 pts a week if that while I will enjoy my 4 tds a week along with Sproles (however you spell it) 3.

It's amazeing how many calls I get right in preseason. This goes way back when I picked Tiki every draft late and watched all the expert listeners eat Dayne's useless value. I'll be doing the same Sproles vs L.T. this year.

It's just I had like 15 drafts and commishes had that 1 or 2 pick all of them while I was stuck 7.8,9,10 all but a couple with 4 one time the lowest this year. So I am rubbibng it in to all you commishes that think you have to cheat to get LT each year redraft leagues. My way of shoveing it up your rear end! EAT L.T.! And send me the $$$ in advance.

L.T was a great player! But his top value is coming to an end soon! It started with the knee, now it's the toe. He's not what he used to be and probably will not ever be again!

What was the point of this? Really...do any of us care about your specific league/draft/evil commish details? Thanks for stroking yourself here in the pool.And the bolded nugget? I'm not normally homophobic, but that makes me go

 

[JamesTheScot]

Waiting until panic time to move someone when there were early indicators is the truest showing of guppiness.

That's a great way to win a debate, insult the people you are trying to convince. Bottom line is that right now, LT's value is probably as low as it's going to get. Even if it comes out he's going to miss a few more games with the toe injury his value will be the same as it is. So there's no Shark move in moving him for something now, especially if he does return to form.

It wasn't my intent to be insulting. If you read the post I was responding to, you'll see that Hoss tossed out the guppiness tag first and suggested that to panic now and trade him for cheap was a guppy move. Hoss should be no more insulted by my use of guppy in my reply than I was by his use of it.And I disagree on your assesment of his value right now. His value isn't as low as it's going to get IF his injury is worse than he has let on. That's our whole point! You can't really accept at face value what LT is saying on this...which is what the OP was trying to say.If his injury isn't that bad and he gets better soon...keeping him is a good move.If his injury is worse and he has to sit out for a few weeks, his value will drop once that becomes public and if you are going to move him you''ll get more now than you will after that makes the front page. Whether or not you need to move him under those circumstances depends on if you can weather the storm while he's down.If his injury is worse than he's letting on and it won't get better because he won't acknowledge that...moving him now is a great move becaus ehis value will continue to decrease as more people catch on.

 

[Tanner9919]

recent memory shows us that when people begin to doubt a players health or status on the injury report, or they begin to get nervous about lengthy holdouts, generally speaking, they are right..

take LJ , for example.or Steven Jackson..lengthy holdouts, each. injury to LJ last season.

I was one of those who believed that LJ would be a beast in 2008, but he hasn't shown anything, yet. When the vast majority of people are talking down about a player ( like MANY were in here this preseason and last year in regards to LJ's holdout), they are usually right....people were dead-on about LJ last season RE: holdout, and they're dead-on about him this season, at least so far..

same with Sjax, a lot of people bashed ST Louis during the preaseason ,and they were right, the Rams stink, and as a result Jackson will not finish as a top 10 RB..he was a terrible draft pick relative to his ADP.

now everyone seems to be down on LT2.. I'm buying what they're selling, drinking the kool-aid, call it what you want but

people in here are right, this might be the year LT2 falls from the RB elite...he's well on his way..

where there is smoke, there is usually fire..I doubt Lt2 recovers enough to be an effective RB this season...and if history is any indication.he'll be drafted too high next year, and will flop, ala S. Alexander...

 

[Ice Cream Man]

If you believe LT's value is higher than it will be in a few weeks, then go ahead and trade him away now. But as the week's pass by, if LT sits, I don't think his value is going to drop anymore, because everyone is gong to be holding out for his return. In fact, if some news comes out that LT is going to be 100% "this" week - his value is going to go up... not down.

So what you're saying is his value can't get any lower, and it can't get any higher. LT2 will always be thought of scoring 16+ TDs in a season.I think it's pretty easy to see his value plummet if he remains injured.

 

[switz]

If you believe LT's value is higher than it will be in a few weeks, then go ahead and trade him away now. But as the week's pass by, if LT sits, I don't think his value is going to drop anymore, because everyone is gong to be holding out for his return. In fact, if some news comes out that LT is going to be 100% "this" week - his value is going to go up... not down.

So what you're saying is his value can't get any lower, and it can't get any higher. LT2 will always be thought of scoring 16+ TDs in a season.I think it's pretty easy to see his value plummet if he remains injured.

I think is value can go higher, it's dropped in two weeks... I just don't think it will continue to drop. And I don't think he's "done".... I am trying to buy low

 

[JohnnyU]

I think half of you are VERY paranoid. Is this your first fantasy football season by any chance?

Just because you are not paranoid does not mean they aren't out to get you.

Why did people draft LT? Because he more than likely will be a TOP 5 RB this year. We have only had 2 weeks thus far and people are freaking out. If this was week 6 and things were still not happening for him then I would say there is reason to be concerned.

I agree with you that it's not time to panic regarding LT2. Anyone trading him for cheap right now is just showing their guppyness, even if they get lucky and he's out for an extended time to justify their trades.

If you aren't even curious as to whether or not LT has a serious toe issue, then by the time you think it's time to panic it will be too late for you to do much about it other than to cut him or trade him at his lowest value. Waiting until panic time to move someone when there were early indicators is the truest showing of guppiness.

Why would I trade him cheap in a dynasty league if I wait and his toe turns out to be worse? Why wouldn't I just hold him until next year? It shows more "guppiness" in a dynasty league to panic and unload him cheap now. I hope you understand that. Now if you can get decent value, then knock yourself out.

 

[bigupsetter]

It's been one week, ONE WEEK. Not long enough to to heal or panic. LT has more yards this year than through 2 games last year.

I think there are too many people panicking b/c their #1 pick isnt performing.