Lynch & the disaster that is Buffalo (1 Viewer)

[NeverEnough]

We all know he is a very talented RB, but we also know that the Bills are a disaster right now.

I don't see him, or the BIlls, turning it around this year.

Has anyone jumped ship on Lynch yet? At this point, I am thinking that Snelling, Forsett, etc would be better pickups than Lynch.

 

[Arnold. S]

I'm benching him for Fred Jackson from now on (25 return yd/pt league), I'm probably going to lose because I started Lynch this week, not going to start him unless they have a cake matchup

 

[tigerz]

well, if the passing game gets better then there could be hope lynch will get some tds but i'm not sure if he's the goal line back anymore or not... definitely not someone i would drop but i would bench him.

 

[bulger2holt]

I'm sticking with him as my flex for now. It's either him or Coles. PPR.

 

[Resident A]

I have him in 2 leagues, both are too deep to consider dropping him. Luckily, I don't need to start him. I had been trying to trade him, nobody was interested. Now, I doubt if I could get Donnie Avery for him...

I keep thinking Lynch will eventually come around. That's 3 games now that he was "supposed to break out" & he's completely stunk it up. I've come to the conclusion that the the Bills running game completely sucks balls & won't get better this year.

 

[hostile]

With Bell now gone and Levitre moving to LT, McKinney at G, with Chambers in at RT, I just dont see this ground game moving too much.

Am I personally giving up on Lynch?

Unfortunately, I cannot as I lost both Ronnie and Cedric this weekend.

 

[rick6668]

Wells will get the start for me from now on unless I see something to make me change my mind.

 

[Darryl Talley]

Looking at his next 4 games, it would be foolish to drop him now. The Bills should be competitive.

 

[rick6668]

Wells will get the start for me from now on unless I see something to make me change my mind.

Based on the latest, I may change my mind.

 

[Phrenchdude]

Looking at his next 4 games, it would be foolish to drop him now. The Bills should be competitive.

ditto for me. Wells seems to be getting hotter and hotter while Jackson is back in the picture to obstruct Lynch. Whatever hapened to THE BEAST?? In the mean time i'm trying to ship him out with Hackeem Nicks to a 2-6 team for Brandon Jacobs. but am second guessing myself: it's not like Jacobs has been lighting it up either. thoughts?

 

[sandlotshrink]

Unless the new regime shakes things up and starts to get the offense in gear, he has very limited value and that is being kind. In a ten teamer, I am considering dropping him to play options at other positions. He simply is in the wrong place at the wrong time.

 

[Yenrub]

I won't drop him but he is going to the bench in favor of his backfield mate Jackson because of the kick and punt return yards

 

[Chase Stuart]

Jauron's departure has to be considered a very good thing for Lynch's touches. Maybe he'll start getting 25 a game.

 

[GroveDiesel]

Jauron's departure has to be considered a very good thing for Lynch's touches. Maybe he'll start getting 25 a game.

They haven't changed offensive coordinators and Fred Jackson is still the better RB anyway. I don't know many Buffalo fans that 1) thought highly of Lynch to start the season and 2) doesn't believe that Jackson is the better RB. Frankly, I'd love to see the Bills trade Lynch in the offseason. The guy is overrated.

 

[Yenrub]

Jauron's departure has to be considered a very good thing for Lynch's touches. Maybe he'll start getting 25 a game.

Why do you think his touches will increase?

 

[Chase Stuart]

Jauron's departure has to be considered a very good thing for Lynch's touches. Maybe he'll start getting 25 a game.

Why do you think his touches will increase?

Lynch is a guy that can take over a game with 25 carries. He's been woefully misused in Buffalo, IMO, and a defensive coach might decide to lean on his power running back more. I can't imagine things getting any worse, that's for sure.

 

[D'OHtis]

Jauron's departure has to be considered a very good thing for Lynch's touches. Maybe he'll start getting 25 a game.

They haven't changed offensive coordinators and Fred Jackson is still the better RB anyway. I don't know many Buffalo fans that 1) thought highly of Lynch to start the season and 2) doesn't believe that Jackson is the better RB. Frankly, I'd love to see the Bills trade Lynch in the offseason. The guy is overrated.

Thank you. Amen.He won't even be the best NFL RB from Cal starting this weekend.

 

[MCguidance]

Jauron's departure has to be considered a very good thing for Lynch's touches. Maybe he'll start getting 25 a game.

Any chance that happens this week, Chase?

 

[jackdubl]

I gave up on Lynch in the preseason.

 

[CalBear]

Jauron's departure has to be considered a very good thing for Lynch's touches. Maybe he'll start getting 25 a game.

They haven't changed offensive coordinators and Fred Jackson is still the better RB anyway. I don't know many Buffalo fans that 1) thought highly of Lynch to start the season and 2) doesn't believe that Jackson is the better RB. Frankly, I'd love to see the Bills trade Lynch in the offseason. The guy is overrated.

Thank you. Amen.He won't even be the best NFL RB from Cal starting this weekend.

It is absolutely ridiculous to claim that Justin Forsett has anything near the level of talent of Marshawn Lynch. Completely disconnected from reality.Lynch's recent line is 18 carries for 80 yards. That's in the past two games--games that Buffalo was ahead or within a TD for almost the entire game. It is almost a guarantee that he will get more carries going forward.

Fred Jackson has not outperformed Lynch. He had slightly more yardage against Tennessee; the four games before that he had: 13/30, 15/52, 5/2, 9/28. He's had 3 games with more than 4 ypc this season--Lynch has also had 3, while playing 3 fewer games. Jackson is suited to being a change of pace back, and that's more likely how he'll be used. I expect total rushing attempts for the team to go up, with Jackson continuing to get 8-10 per game, but Lynch getting 15-20 instead of 8-10 also.

 

[Tanner9919]

Jauron's departure has to be considered a very good thing for Lynch's touches. Maybe he'll start getting 25 a game.

They haven't changed offensive coordinators and Fred Jackson is still the better RB anyway. I don't know many Buffalo fans that 1) thought highly of Lynch to start the season and 2) doesn't believe that Jackson is the better RB. Frankly, I'd love to see the Bills trade Lynch in the offseason. The guy is overrated.

Thank you. Amen.He won't even be the best NFL RB from Cal starting this weekend.

It is absolutely ridiculous to claim that Justin Forsett has anything near the level of talent of Marshawn Lynch. Completely disconnected from reality.Lynch's recent line is 18 carries for 80 yards. That's in the past two games--games that Buffalo was ahead or within a TD for almost the entire game. It is almost a guarantee that he will get more carries going forward.

Fred Jackson has not outperformed Lynch. He had slightly more yardage against Tennessee; the four games before that he had: 13/30, 15/52, 5/2, 9/28. He's had 3 games with more than 4 ypc this season--Lynch has also had 3, while playing 3 fewer games. Jackson is suited to being a change of pace back, and that's more likely how he'll be used. I expect total rushing attempts for the team to go up, with Jackson continuing to get 8-10 per game, but Lynch getting 15-20 instead of 8-10 also.

 

[Athletic Supporter]

Lynch is a HUGE buy low in Dynasty right now...

 

[sandlotshrink]

Yes to the buy low in dynasty, but what about non-dynasty leagues? I can't see how it's going to get better for Lynch owners. As an earlier post noted, he still has the same OC, same pair of incompetent QB's running the show and same poor Oline and he will give up carries to Jackson. The only bright spot is they might give him 2/3 of the increased carries compared to 1/2, but hard to see how that equates to even and RB3 type guy. The way he has been going, I'd rather one of my opponents roster him.

 

[packersfan]

For what it's worth, two of Lynch's Top 3 games in terms of touches this season came with Fitzpatrick at QB. Not sure that's enough of a sample size to draw any firm conclusions but it's possibly worth noting this week. The Jags' run defense hasn't exactly been stellar either so the matchup is favorable. This could be a week Lynch does something even with the time share still in place.

 

[Righetti]

I just traded FOR Lynch. If he has ability than it can't be any worse than it's been this year.

 

[CanadianNFLJunkie]

We all know he is a very talented RB, but we also know that the Bills are a disaster right now.I don't see him, or the BIlls, turning it around this year.Has anyone jumped ship on Lynch yet? At this point, I am thinking that Snelling, Forsett, etc would be better pickups than Lynch.

Um why did you even consider him back in August???

 

[Young 8]

Jauron's departure has to be considered a very good thing for Lynch's touches. Maybe he'll start getting 25 a game.

They haven't changed offensive coordinators and Fred Jackson is still the better RB anyway. I don't know many Buffalo fans that 1) thought highly of Lynch to start the season and 2) doesn't believe that Jackson is the better RB. Frankly, I'd love to see the Bills trade Lynch in the offseason. The guy is overrated.

more nonsense coming from Bills fansi'm not surprised you team stinks.........

 

[da_budman]

Jauron's departure has to be considered a very good thing for Lynch's touches. Maybe he'll start getting 25 a game.

Why do you think his touches will increase?

Lynch is a guy that can take over a game with 25 carries. He's been woefully misused in Buffalo, IMO, and a defensive coach might decide to lean on his power running back more. I can't imagine things getting any worse, that's for sure.

also keep in mind the new HC is auditioning for a job right now, whether that be the HC job (doubtfull) or a job on another team. If I were promoted as interim coach on a team where the offense is not working I would certainly be making some changes hoping for better results, not going with the status quo.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

also keep in mind the new HC is auditioning for a job right now, whether that be the HC job (doubtfull) or a job on another team. If I were promoted as interim coach on a team where the offense is not working I would certainly be making some changes hoping for better results, not going with the status quo.

Yes - and I'd do my damnedest to get the ball in the hands of my best players too. Which in this case are Lee Evans and Marshawn Lynch.

 

[D'OHtis]

Jauron's departure has to be considered a very good thing for Lynch's touches. Maybe he'll start getting 25 a game.

They haven't changed offensive coordinators and Fred Jackson is still the better RB anyway. I don't know many Buffalo fans that 1) thought highly of Lynch to start the season and 2) doesn't believe that Jackson is the better RB. Frankly, I'd love to see the Bills trade Lynch in the offseason. The guy is overrated.

Thank you. Amen.He won't even be the best NFL RB from Cal starting this weekend.

It is absolutely ridiculous to claim that Justin Forsett has anything near the level of talent of Marshawn Lynch. Completely disconnected from reality.Lynch's recent line is 18 carries for 80 yards. That's in the past two games--games that Buffalo was ahead or within a TD for almost the entire game. It is almost a guarantee that he will get more carries going forward.

Fred Jackson has not outperformed Lynch. He had slightly more yardage against Tennessee; the four games before that he had: 13/30, 15/52, 5/2, 9/28. He's had 3 games with more than 4 ypc this season--Lynch has also had 3, while playing 3 fewer games. Jackson is suited to being a change of pace back, and that's more likely how he'll be used. I expect total rushing attempts for the team to go up, with Jackson continuing to get 8-10 per game, but Lynch getting 15-20 instead of 8-10 also.

K. Good luck with this. Year and a half now Lynch has been outperformed by Fred Jackson.

I'm going to go with the best RB on his own team in Forsett the rest of the year.

Edit: In before the injury excuse. He's been mediocre when healthy.

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Nice work by whomever is updating Rotoworld:

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Marshawn Lynch picked up just six yards on three carries and caught a nine-yard pass in the Bills' Week 12 win over the Dolphins.

Lynch is not the best running back on his team, so his role is declining. Fred Jackson saw 22 touches compared to Lynch's four, and it wasn't because of Lynch's Week 11 shoulder injury. He practiced in full the entire week. Jackson has unseated Lynch as the Bills' starting running back. Lynch is Fred Jackson's handcuff and bench fodder in all leagues going forward."

 

[Young 8]

Garbage

He's been outplayed all season long by an undrafted 29yrs old journeyman, are you kidding me ???

 

[Chase Stuart]

Okay, time to cut bait on this guy. He's just not part of the offense. I'd love to see him on the Jets.

 

[Carolina Hustler]

Garbage

He's been outplayed all season long by an undrafted 29yrs old journeyman, are you kidding me ???

When has that happened?

 

[Young 8]

Garbage

He's been outplayed all season long by an undrafted 29yrs old journeyman, are you kidding me ???

When has that happened?

check YPC

 

[Carolina Hustler]

Jauron's departure has to be considered a very good thing for Lynch's touches. Maybe he'll start getting 25 a game.

They haven't changed offensive coordinators and Fred Jackson is still the better RB anyway. I don't know many Buffalo fans that 1) thought highly of Lynch to start the season and 2) doesn't believe that Jackson is the better RB. Frankly, I'd love to see the Bills trade Lynch in the offseason. The guy is overrated.

Thank you. Amen.He won't even be the best NFL RB from Cal starting this weekend.

It is absolutely ridiculous to claim that Justin Forsett has anything near the level of talent of Marshawn Lynch. Completely disconnected from reality.Lynch's recent line is 18 carries for 80 yards. That's in the past two games--games that Buffalo was ahead or within a TD for almost the entire game. It is almost a guarantee that he will get more carries going forward.

Fred Jackson has not outperformed Lynch. He had slightly more yardage against Tennessee; the four games before that he had: 13/30, 15/52, 5/2, 9/28. He's had 3 games with more than 4 ypc this season--Lynch has also had 3, while playing 3 fewer games. Jackson is suited to being a change of pace back, and that's more likely how he'll be used. I expect total rushing attempts for the team to go up, with Jackson continuing to get 8-10 per game, but Lynch getting 15-20 instead of 8-10 also.

K. Good luck with this. Year and a half now Lynch has been outperformed by Fred Jackson.

I'm going to go with the best RB on his own team in Forsett the rest of the year.

Of course you'll produce some documentation to support your claim there... Sounds absolutely ridiculous to me...

 

[Carolina Hustler]

Jauron's departure has to be considered a very good thing for Lynch's touches. Maybe he'll start getting 25 a game.

They haven't changed offensive coordinators and Fred Jackson is still the better RB anyway. I don't know many Buffalo fans that 1) thought highly of Lynch to start the season and 2) doesn't believe that Jackson is the better RB. Frankly, I'd love to see the Bills trade Lynch in the offseason. The guy is overrated.

more nonsense coming from Bills fansi'm not surprised you team stinks.........

You're a completely disconnected member...Start taking more into consideration then the straight stat line and your FF stats....

 

[D'OHtis]

Garbage

He's been outplayed all season long by an undrafted 29yrs old journeyman, are you kidding me ???

When has that happened?

Young 8, it's all season long...plus last year.Watch the games Carolina. Keep hanging onto Buffalo's new backup RB though.

 

[Carolina Hustler]

Garbage

He's been outplayed all season long by an undrafted 29yrs old journeyman, are you kidding me ???

When has that happened?

Young 8, it's all season long...plus last year.Watch the games Carolina. Keep hanging onto Buffalo's new backup RB though.

Like I said, you provide nothing for proof... Actually I watch the games being a Bills fan.. I know I've seen both of them play more than you haveWithout the Tampa Bay game, which Lynch wasn't able to play in per his suspension, which was by far the worst def the Bills have played against this year, Jackson's stats would be crap and his YPC would be in line with Lynch's if not worse... Get you facts straight, Don't come in here making some of the top of your head claim based on FF points and back up your stuff....

 

[KellysHeroes]

benched him for Freddy

 

[egofailure]

Trying to prep for the playoffs ... I have Gore, Slaton, Moreno, and Charles ...

Drop Westbrook for Freddy J?

 

[IvanKaramazov]

Jauron's departure has to be considered a very good thing for Lynch's touches. Maybe he'll start getting 25 a game.

They haven't changed offensive coordinators and Fred Jackson is still the better RB anyway. I don't know many Buffalo fans that 1) thought highly of Lynch to start the season and 2) doesn't believe that Jackson is the better RB. Frankly, I'd love to see the Bills trade Lynch in the offseason. The guy is overrated.

more nonsense coming from Bills fansi'm not surprised you team stinks.........

I've watched every Bills game this season, and there's just no question that Jackson is the better RB, at least right now. Sorry.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

Garbage

He's been outplayed all season long by an undrafted 29yrs old journeyman, are you kidding me ???

Way to not pay attention.

 

[GroveDiesel]

Garbage

He's been outplayed all season long by an undrafted 29yrs old journeyman, are you kidding me ???

Way to not pay attention.

Careful now, apparently actually watching all the games and believing that Jackson is a better RB than Lynch is somehow responsible for the Bills being a bad team. Gotta love the yahoos who believe that just because a guy was drafted higher than some other guy, that makes the higher draft pick automatically better than the other guy.

The offense is totally different with Jackson than with Lynch. Jackson is one of the best receiving RBs in the league (IMO) and a much more explosive runner than Lynch. Jackson also has better vision and ability to make guys miss, both of which are important with a bad offensive line.

Lynch is a darn good straight ahead runner who can get the tough extra yards, but he's totally one dimensional as a RB.

 

[mbuehner]

Garbage

He's been outplayed all season long by an undrafted 29yrs old journeyman, are you kidding me ???

When has that happened?

Young 8, it's all season long...plus last year.Watch the games Carolina. Keep hanging onto Buffalo's new backup RB though.

Like I said, you provide nothing for proof... Actually I watch the games being a Bills fan.. I know I've seen both of them play more than you haveWithout the Tampa Bay game, which Lynch wasn't able to play in per his suspension, which was by far the worst def the Bills have played against this year, Jackson's stats would be crap and his YPC would be in line with Lynch's if not worse... Get you facts straight, Don't come in here making some of the top of your head claim based on FF points and back up your stuff....

Ok. Lets throw out the Tampa game, just because you don't want it there. Silly, but i'll play ball.Jackson: 115 carries 438 yards 3.8y/c, 238 yards rec, 3 tds

Lynch: 90 carries for 278 y/c, 3.09 y/c, 150 yards rec, 1 td

Care to revise your answer sir?

 

[D'OHtis]

Ok. Lets throw out the Tampa game, just because you don't want it there. Silly, but i'll play ball.Jackson: 115 carries 438 yards 3.8y/c, 238 yards rec, 3 tdsLynch: 90 carries for 278 y/c, 3.09 y/c, 150 yards rec, 1 tdCare to revise your answer sir?

Please be sure he does not want any more games omitted TIA. We want facts [according the world of the Carolinda Hustler]Let's also throw out anyone having the Ticket and seeing any Bills games.Let's also throw out the reason Lynch was suspended in the first place.Let's also throw out the notion that a UDFA could outplay a 1st round pick.

 

[D'OHtis]

Garbage

He's been outplayed all season long by an undrafted 29yrs old journeyman, are you kidding me ???

When has that happened?

Young 8, it's all season long...plus last year.Watch the games Carolina. Keep hanging onto Buffalo's new backup RB though.

Like I said, you provide nothing for proof... Actually I watch the games being a Bills fan.. I know I've seen both of them play more than you haveWithout the Tampa Bay game, which Lynch wasn't able to play in per his suspension, which was by far the worst def the Bills have played against this year, Jackson's stats would be crap and his YPC would be in line with Lynch's if not worse... Get you facts straight, Don't come in here making some of the top of your head claim based on FF points and back up your stuff....

Per Coach Fewell [Will that work for you since your eyes apparently aren't?]: "Coach Perry Fewell indicated after Sunday's win that Fred Jackson could permanently unseat Marshawn Lynch to be the Bills' starting running back.

"I made that decision (to start Jackson) really during the course of the week, just watching us practice, watching our tempo and just gut instinct," Fewell said. "Fred has been very productive." Jackson got 20 touches, gaining 118 yards and scoring twice, compared to Lynch's 15 yards on four chances. The Bills are unlikely to go back to Lynch as long as Jackson is playing well.

Source: Buffalo News

Related: Marshawn Lynch "

 

[Carolina Hustler]

Garbage

He's been outplayed all season long by an undrafted 29yrs old journeyman, are you kidding me ???

When has that happened?

Young 8, it's all season long...plus last year.Watch the games Carolina. Keep hanging onto Buffalo's new backup RB though.

Like I said, you provide nothing for proof... Actually I watch the games being a Bills fan.. I know I've seen both of them play more than you haveWithout the Tampa Bay game, which Lynch wasn't able to play in per his suspension, which was by far the worst def the Bills have played against this year, Jackson's stats would be crap and his YPC would be in line with Lynch's if not worse... Get you facts straight, Don't come in here making some of the top of your head claim based on FF points and back up your stuff....

Per Coach Fewell [Will that work for you since your eyes apparently aren't?]: "Coach Perry Fewell indicated after Sunday's win that Fred Jackson could permanently unseat Marshawn Lynch to be the Bills' starting running back.

"I made that decision (to start Jackson) really during the course of the week, just watching us practice, watching our tempo and just gut instinct," Fewell said. "Fred has been very productive." Jackson got 20 touches, gaining 118 yards and scoring twice, compared to Lynch's 15 yards on four chances. The Bills are unlikely to go back to Lynch as long as Jackson is playing well.

Source: Buffalo News

Related: Marshawn Lynch "

Are you suggesting that supports your claim?

 

[WFR]

Is Lynch worth holding onto in dynasty formats?

Bye week fill-in etc?

 

[Bills Fan]

FWIW, the local paper did say today that Lynch's shoulder was part of the reason for the reduced touches, although I do not recall Fewell mentioning it. Bottom line, Jackson is outperforming him right now, and he will get the ball.

 

[Young 8]

Careful now, apparently actually watching all the games and believing that Jackson is a better RB than Lynch is somehow responsible for the Bills being a bad team. Gotta love the yahoos who believe that just because a guy was drafted higher than some other guy, that makes the higher draft pick automatically better than the other guy.

maybe you should laugh @ your Franchise, palthey are the one who spent a 1st round pick for a guy who can't even beat a 29yrs old journeymangotta love the Bills