Jefferson the Caregiver
Rebel Without A Pause
Huh, he woke up seeing a pseudo doctor with a needle in his hand. The Doctor's intent is ambiguous at best.
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jdoggydogg
Footballguy
Sorry, dad. Please don't hit me.
First, what's your basis for calling him a pseudo doctor?Second, how do you know it wasn't just a B-12 shot? Doctors do give B12 shots for heat exhaustion and dehydration.
Jefferson the Caregiver
Rebel Without A Pause
My basis is that he doesnt work as a Doctor, they confirmed that at the dinner table.I said it was ambiguous at best, which doesn't mean I have ruled out a B-12 shot.
How does that make him a pseudo-doctor?
But you still think something nefarious was occurring, correct?
Jefferson the Caregiver
Rebel Without A Pause
I'm not convinced one way or the other. The only thing that I am convinced of is that the show made it intentionally ambiguous so that people might talk about it after.It's not clear cut either way.
Jefferson the Caregiver
Rebel Without A Pause
Seeing that I've never seen the guy collapse after a drink, yeah, its a possibility. Those people are pretty detached from every day life. I don't think they want to kill the guy or anything like that, but sure, I could see them screwing with him for their own amusement.
McJose
Footballguy
1. Nobody but Joy knows Don's coming yet somehow all the freaky Euros, who are chilling by the pool, plot to slip him something in the minute it takes them to walk through the house.2. Joy pours Don's drink from the same bottle that the one couple is drinking from. 3. Whatever they put in the drink takes effect in about 30 seconds.4. Don actually looks a little woozy before he even is handed the drink.5. Joy asks Don "are you ok?" as he starts to faint.6. Why drag him inside and then try to inject him with something? Give him the shot while he's out cold on the deck.7. Nobody, not even the doctor, protests when Don says he doesn't want the shot. 8. The big question is: Why would they even do it? It makes no sense.I look at it this way. Don just spend 2 hours in a convertible driving to hot-as-hell Palm Springs. Add in that he's playing hooky from work with a smokin' 22 year old and is suddenly hanging out by the pool with a bunch of jet-setting Europeans. I'm not sure if he really had heat exhaustion or was just dizzy.
Jefferson the Caregiver
Rebel Without A Pause
To get him to stay and be Joy's play thing all weekend.
McJose
Footballguy
I don't think they had to twist his arm. Hell they'd have to drug me to leave.
McJose
Footballguy
True. And Don is a New Yorker. Some people just aren't ready for the heat of Palm Springs, Vegas, etc.
Jefferson the Caregiver
Rebel Without A Pause
You guys are probably right, all I've said is it was ambiguous and I think the writers intended it to be that way.
That group was a bit freaky right? Joy and her father had a weird relationship to say the least. Just don't think its that much of a stretch to think that they could dose him with something.
That group was a bit freaky right? Joy and her father had a weird relationship to say the least. Just don't think its that much of a stretch to think that they could dose him with something.
jamny
Footballguy
Very odd group.So what are they? Grifters? They didn't reply when Don asked if they were well off.
McJose
Footballguy
To me they seemed more like the idle rich. Joy's father, Willy, is some sort of count. Keep the title of the episode in mind...Per wiki: "Jet set" is a journalistic term that was used to describe an international social group of wealthy people, organizing and participating in social activities all around the world that are unreachable to ordinary people. The term, which replaced "café society", came from the lifestyle of travelling from one stylish or exotic place to another via jet airplanes. Although jet passenger service in the 1950s was initially marketed primarily to the rich, its introduction eventually resulted in a substantial democratization of air travel. Today air travel is functional but without glory, and the term "jet set" no longer has cachet.
First off no one said anything about him taking the shot so I suggest you pay attention to someone's post before trying to give a sarcastic responseYou go to a stranger's house and that person only gives you a vague answer when you ask who owns the home, then you walk out to the pool area were there are even more ppl you don't know, after suggesting you get naked you're handed a drink and seconds later you pass out. When you come to another stranger is holding a syringe and trying to give you a shot of who knows what and he "claims" he's a doctor. You have to be naive as hell not to find any of that suspicious
jamny
Footballguy
Take out the syringe and does it still seem suspicious? Sounds like he showed up to a house party and passed out from the heat. And if I remember correctly, they weren't trying to give him the needle until he was awake and able to decide if it's something he wanted.
Big Blue Wrecking Crew
downsized
usual lurker here...another possibility for Don's collapse could be a foreshadowing of possible health problems. Remember, he did visit a doctor earlier in the season who clearly indicated he had some issues to address. Could be the beginning of some Roger-like issues for Don with his health? He is obviously under stress from the various situations he is in.
Could be way off, but it's a possibility
Could be way off, but it's a possibility
You said "who needs a shot to cure heat exhaustion." But Don didn't take the shot. Therefore, he didn't need it. What part of this aren't you getting?
jamny
Footballguy
Could be very relevant...but. I'm a little fuzzy on the details but didn't he just say he visited a doctor as an excuse to his wife after the car accident? I'm not remembering an actual doctor visit.
gump
Footballguy
He was in a doctor's office in an early season show...doc said he was living/working too hard.
piratemike
HARRRRRLite™
I don't recall this. Little help?
Grace Under Pressure
Footballguy
She says "Don Draper"? He says "Yes". She says "You're not Don Draper". It was a flashback scene and that's all they showed. This happened in an auto dealership where Don was selling cars.
jamny
Footballguy
This doesn't make sense because the woman at the car dealership was looking for Don Draper. She realized that he wasn't really Don Draper.
gump
Footballguy
Yep...no way it was her...that was a girl from Draper's past who didn't know D Whitman.
piratemike
HARRRRRLite™
This is what I was thinking.
jdoggydogg
Footballguy
Just watched the Sarah Silverman show and the actor who plays Draper plays a TV repairman on Silverman's show.
jamny
Footballguy
Are you serious? I love that show. Obviously from last season, do you know the episode name?
jdoggydogg
Footballguy
IMDB.com had the answer:Are you serious? I love that show. Obviously from last season, do you know the episode name?
"The Sarah Silverman Program." .... Cable Guy (1 episode, 2007)- Muffin' Man (2007) TV episode .... Cable Guy
jdoggydogg
Footballguy
Yeah, me too. Betty bleeding has to be something serious. I don't think they'd just show a random menstrual cycle moment for no reason.
I guessing that this may be pregnancy-related?
McJose
Footballguy
Surprise!
McJose
Footballguy
Could very well be.
McJose
Footballguy
I also love how Peggy's getting a be more of a little bad-### every week.Oh and what's up with Joan's fiance? Homo? Rapist? Both?ETA: Or is he just trying to 'mark his territory'?
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IMHO, I just think he needs to be "in control." He likes his women to be submissive.I also love how Peggy's getting a be more of a little bad-### every week.Oh and what's up with Joan's fiance? Homo? Rapist? Both?ETA: Or is he just trying to 'mark his territory'?
Mystery Achiever
Footballguy
I thought it was more story line of Joan "getting liberated." The old Joan is a sec'y and picks a chauvinistic guy. The new Joan learns she likes -and is good at - doing more work and realizes the guy she picked doesn't listen to her or respect her word.
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jdoggydogg
Footballguy
Peggy's growth is fun to watch and she's developing a sense of humor:"How'd you get this office?""I'm sleeping with Don Draper."Joan's fiancee is a total rapist.I also love how Peggy's getting a be more of a little bad-### every week.Oh and what's up with Joan's fiance? Homo? Rapist? Both?ETA: Or is he just trying to 'mark his territory'?
Some are speculating that it's evidence of a miscarriage and this will be what brings don and betty back together
I agree, he didn't want to have sex with Joan not because he's gay but because she was the one who initiated it. Plus he's into the whole rape thingIMHO, I just think he needs to be "in control." He likes his women to be submissive.I also love how Peggy's getting a be more of a little bad-### every week.Oh and what's up with Joan's fiance? Homo? Rapist? Both?ETA: Or is he just trying to 'mark his territory'?
Walton Goggins
Footballguy
I really hope Don doesn't go back to his old life. I think the show will take a step backwards if he does. His wife has zero personality, a total drag and acts like a child.
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McJose
Footballguy
I think they're going to make us wait until next season to see if Don comes back or not and what happens with his marriage.
Otis
Footballguy
Just some awesome and amazing subtleties in the last couple episodes. I'm new to the show this year and it's just outstanding.
The scene where the guy who Sterling screws takes out the two brits for dinner, and they talk about here's to an "old friend" and he picks up and finally downs the martini -- I'm assuming this guy is a recovering alcoholic, because he's never had a drink when offered and hesitated when these guys were drinking. I thought that "old friend" line was fantastic.
There were a bunch of other similar subtleties. Just a killer show.
The scene where the guy who Sterling screws takes out the two brits for dinner, and they talk about here's to an "old friend" and he picks up and finally downs the martini -- I'm assuming this guy is a recovering alcoholic, because he's never had a drink when offered and hesitated when these guys were drinking. I thought that "old friend" line was fantastic.
There were a bunch of other similar subtleties. Just a killer show.
The show is called Mad Men not **** Whitman....of course he'll be back, that's the only realistic way they can keep the ad agency and all the characters over there as a part of the show.BTW for those of you who don't know Jon Hamm who plays don will be the host of Saturday Night Live this week.
That seems backasswards. While I agree that as the most interesting character he probably will be back, they could certainly keep it going with the amount of characters they have and the dynamic they've created with the Brits taking over. After all, it's called Mad Men not the #### Whitman Show.
McJose
Footballguy
Well that's not what I was getting at. I meant that we'll have to see exactly when and how he comes back. Will he be more like the Don Draper of season 1 or my like the Don/**** we've seen in the last few episodes.
