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MAD's ROUND 2!! Artist Songs Lists due by Oct 1. Anyone can still enter until then!! (4 Viewers)
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Zegras11
Footballguy
Binky not.
titusbramble
Footballguy
I need to start working through the back catalogue that I've never heard. I'm not sure I could even name a Kyuss track, let alone know it if I heard it
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
Whoa. That's awesome - you are in for a treat. I played the hell out of the Blues for the Red Sun album. Enjoy the new tunes!
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
Sounds brutal - I'm glad you got it figured out.
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
AAABatteries
Footballguy
The juxtaposition of this guy singing Santa Baby makes it worth posting.
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
Thursday sneak preview night!!
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
I've already largely forgotten the artists we are getting this round. Can't wait for your playlist. I saw them in concert in Milwaukee with Lord Huron. Both were great. Rateliff puts on a show.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
I’ll see him Saturday along with others (The Killers are headlining Saturday night) at Sea Hear Now Festival this Saturday in Asbury.
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
Awesome. I'd love to see The Killers too. Have you seen Rateliff before?
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
No, but as I said when AAA picked him I’ve gotten into him and been listening a lot so looking forward to it.
I’m only going Saturday so far - couldn’t get both days when it went on sale and haven’t tried to get one since. I’ll see in order:
Quincy Mumford
Snacktime
Oteil & Friends
Royal Blood
Sheryl Crow
Living Color
Greta Van Fleet
Nathanial Ratliff & the Night Sweats
The Killers
- other bands are playing but those are who’ll I’ll choose when there are conflicts
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
The bolded would be my other two.
AAABatteries
Footballguy
The bolded would be my other two.
My oldest is a big fan of Greta Van Fleet
Eephus
Footballguy
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
Oh, **** it. Like @snellman, I'm like a kid waiting to open presents on Christmas, so I am going to start some yapping and previews. Last time we started talking after the artist reveals, but we already know those, so....
MASTODON
Dinosaur Jr./Mascis was my mental answer for MAD1 when I was thinking one day if I could play guitars, who would I want to sound like. That took a lot of thinking and the answer didn't come to me right away, and I am mostly sure. When I was thinking about part 2, since I drummed a little and I am way more about the drums for artists usually, I asked myself the equivalent question. The answer was immediate and without thought Mastodon/Brann Dailor. That honestly surprised me how strong that reaction was - not Tool? Slayer? Primus? any of the dozens of drummers I love?
One main reason is as much as I love guys like Carey and listen to Tool a ton, if I were to want to impart a talent to myself first off I want it to be an absolute release. That's what it was for me in band, and I was the idiot they had to keep telling to stop playing so loud. I just wanted to beat the crap out of the drums. Brann fascinates me also because his kit is so simple. 1 bass drum (which is a bit rare for this genre and their type of music within it), 4 toms, 4-5 cymbals and a snare. No need for that 50 drum set up by dudes like Peart and Tim Alexander. That wouldn't be my style. I was thinking hard how to describe his style before starting, and that's tough. In an attempt to reel in people not excited about my submission or genre - I think Brann is a little bit of a throw back and how about I try: John Bonham + Keith Moon? He has that absolute thunderous bass drum and I do hear some Bonham grooves in him. Up top he's like a wind-up doll of Keith Moon and I feel that frantic engergy out of him. Feel free to tell me how wrong I am, but that's the best I had. I was watching an interview with him and talked a ton about how influencial the early drummer for King Diamond was on him, which is why I was doing a deep dive there too. 100% makes sense. I will spare the group any Diamond videos, just trust me that is where much of the 1000 fills a song comes in. He also had a love for Maiden and talked about their sound, themes, and imagry. That will also be front and center over the next few months.
I will elaborate more as we go, but this will be a taste for now. My hope is that I will chip away at a few metal barriers for non-fans as y'all have done for me with country, bluegrass, and others. For metal fans not familar with Mastodon I hope you will agree that metal is in good hands in 2023. For any Mastodon, enjoy the ride and I hope I give you a couple songs that are new. IF all of that fails, I hope I give you some laughs with the oddness that is Mastodon and their videos - for songs and otherwise. I will also leave a preview for any interested.
LINK to some awesomeness that didn't quite make the cut for the playlist.
LINK to a small taste that is the humor and weirdness of Brann and the band. The shorts.
MASTODON
Dinosaur Jr./Mascis was my mental answer for MAD1 when I was thinking one day if I could play guitars, who would I want to sound like. That took a lot of thinking and the answer didn't come to me right away, and I am mostly sure. When I was thinking about part 2, since I drummed a little and I am way more about the drums for artists usually, I asked myself the equivalent question. The answer was immediate and without thought Mastodon/Brann Dailor. That honestly surprised me how strong that reaction was - not Tool? Slayer? Primus? any of the dozens of drummers I love?
One main reason is as much as I love guys like Carey and listen to Tool a ton, if I were to want to impart a talent to myself first off I want it to be an absolute release. That's what it was for me in band, and I was the idiot they had to keep telling to stop playing so loud. I just wanted to beat the crap out of the drums. Brann fascinates me also because his kit is so simple. 1 bass drum (which is a bit rare for this genre and their type of music within it), 4 toms, 4-5 cymbals and a snare. No need for that 50 drum set up by dudes like Peart and Tim Alexander. That wouldn't be my style. I was thinking hard how to describe his style before starting, and that's tough. In an attempt to reel in people not excited about my submission or genre - I think Brann is a little bit of a throw back and how about I try: John Bonham + Keith Moon? He has that absolute thunderous bass drum and I do hear some Bonham grooves in him. Up top he's like a wind-up doll of Keith Moon and I feel that frantic engergy out of him. Feel free to tell me how wrong I am, but that's the best I had. I was watching an interview with him and talked a ton about how influencial the early drummer for King Diamond was on him, which is why I was doing a deep dive there too. 100% makes sense. I will spare the group any Diamond videos, just trust me that is where much of the 1000 fills a song comes in. He also had a love for Maiden and talked about their sound, themes, and imagry. That will also be front and center over the next few months.
I will elaborate more as we go, but this will be a taste for now. My hope is that I will chip away at a few metal barriers for non-fans as y'all have done for me with country, bluegrass, and others. For metal fans not familar with Mastodon I hope you will agree that metal is in good hands in 2023. For any Mastodon, enjoy the ride and I hope I give you a couple songs that are new. IF all of that fails, I hope I give you some laughs with the oddness that is Mastodon and their videos - for songs and otherwise. I will also leave a preview for any interested.
LINK to some awesomeness that didn't quite make the cut for the playlist.
LINK to a small taste that is the humor and weirdness of Brann and the band. The shorts.
Scoresman
Footballguy
I think I’m going to like this from the sample song you gave.Oh, **** it. Like @snellman, I'm like a kid waiting to open presents on Christmas, so I am going to start some yapping and previews. Last time we started talking after the artist reveals, but we already know those, so....
MASTODON
Dinosaur Jr./Mascis was my mental answer for MAD1 when I was thinking one day if I could play guitars, who would I want to sound like. That took a lot of thinking and the answer didn't come to me right away, and I am mostly sure. When I was thinking about part 2, since I drummed a little and I am way more about the drums for artists usually, I asked myself the equivalent question. The answer was immediate and without thought Mastodon/Brann Dailor. That honestly surprised me how strong that reaction was - not Tool? Slayer? Primus? any of the dozens of drummers I love?
One main reason is as much as I love guys like Carey and listen to Tool a ton, if I were to want to impart a talent to myself first off I want it to be an absolute release. That's what it was for me in band, and I was the idiot they had to keep telling to stop playing so loud. I just wanted to beat the crap out of the drums. Brann fascinates me also because his kit is so simple. 1 bass drum (which is a bit rare for this genre and their type of music within it), 4 toms, 4-5 cymbals and a snare. No need for that 50 drum set up by dudes like Peart and Tim Alexander. That wouldn't be my style. I was thinking hard how to describe his style before starting, and that's tough. In an attempt to reel in people not excited about my submission or genre - I think Brann is a little bit of a throw back and how about I try: John Bonham + Keith Moon? He has that absolute thunderous bass drum and I do hear some Bonham grooves in him. Up top he's like a wind-up doll of Keith Moon and I feel that frantic engergy out of him. Feel free to tell me how wrong I am, but that's the best I had. I was watching an interview with him and talked a ton about how influencial the early drummer for King Diamond was on him, which is why I was doing a deep dive there too. 100% makes sense. I will spare the group any Diamond videos, just trust me that is where much of the 1000 fills a song comes in. He also had a love for Maiden and talked about their sound, themes, and imagry. That will also be front and center over the next few months.
I will elaborate more as we go, but this will be a taste for now. My hope is that I will chip away at a few metal barriers for non-fans as y'all have done for me with country, bluegrass, and others. For metal fans not familar with Mastodon I hope you will agree that metal is in good hands in 2023. For any Mastodon, enjoy the ride and I hope I give you a couple songs that are new. IF all of that fails, I hope I give you some laughs with the oddness that is Mastodon and their videos - for songs and otherwise. I will also leave a preview for any interested.
LINK to some awesomeness that didn't quite make the cut for the playlist.
LINK to a small taste that is the humor and weirdness of Brann and the band. The shorts.
I thought of doing one of the handful of metal bands I liked in high school, and seeing how the reception is for this I might next round.
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
Nice. That is close to the core sound of the playlist. From the album right before the one I am featuring.I think I’m going to like this from the sample song you gave.Oh, **** it. Like @snellman, I'm like a kid waiting to open presents on Christmas, so I am going to start some yapping and previews. Last time we started talking after the artist reveals, but we already know those, so....
MASTODON
Dinosaur Jr./Mascis was my mental answer for MAD1 when I was thinking one day if I could play guitars, who would I want to sound like. That took a lot of thinking and the answer didn't come to me right away, and I am mostly sure. When I was thinking about part 2, since I drummed a little and I am way more about the drums for artists usually, I asked myself the equivalent question. The answer was immediate and without thought Mastodon/Brann Dailor. That honestly surprised me how strong that reaction was - not Tool? Slayer? Primus? any of the dozens of drummers I love?
One main reason is as much as I love guys like Carey and listen to Tool a ton, if I were to want to impart a talent to myself first off I want it to be an absolute release. That's what it was for me in band, and I was the idiot they had to keep telling to stop playing so loud. I just wanted to beat the crap out of the drums. Brann fascinates me also because his kit is so simple. 1 bass drum (which is a bit rare for this genre and their type of music within it), 4 toms, 4-5 cymbals and a snare. No need for that 50 drum set up by dudes like Peart and Tim Alexander. That wouldn't be my style. I was thinking hard how to describe his style before starting, and that's tough. In an attempt to reel in people not excited about my submission or genre - I think Brann is a little bit of a throw back and how about I try: John Bonham + Keith Moon? He has that absolute thunderous bass drum and I do hear some Bonham grooves in him. Up top he's like a wind-up doll of Keith Moon and I feel that frantic engergy out of him. Feel free to tell me how wrong I am, but that's the best I had. I was watching an interview with him and talked a ton about how influencial the early drummer for King Diamond was on him, which is why I was doing a deep dive there too. 100% makes sense. I will spare the group any Diamond videos, just trust me that is where much of the 1000 fills a song comes in. He also had a love for Maiden and talked about their sound, themes, and imagry. That will also be front and center over the next few months.
I will elaborate more as we go, but this will be a taste for now. My hope is that I will chip away at a few metal barriers for non-fans as y'all have done for me with country, bluegrass, and others. For metal fans not familar with Mastodon I hope you will agree that metal is in good hands in 2023. For any Mastodon, enjoy the ride and I hope I give you a couple songs that are new. IF all of that fails, I hope I give you some laughs with the oddness that is Mastodon and their videos - for songs and otherwise. I will also leave a preview for any interested.
LINK to some awesomeness that didn't quite make the cut for the playlist.
LINK to a small taste that is the humor and weirdness of Brann and the band. The shorts.
I thought of doing one of the handful of metal bands I liked in high school, and seeing how the reception is for this I might next round.
zamboni
Footballguy
Make sure to go in through the out door.
-OZ-
Footballguy
Don Quixote
Footballguy
Seeing a couple of previews, I’ll post a little something. I don’t want to spoil some “classics” that may or may not be on my list (just yet anyway). I almost posted in the 2023 new music thread awhile back, but then thought would save for here. My favorite release of 2023 so far has been the release in July of a previously unreleased recording of Nina Simone’s set at the 1966 Newport Jazz Festival. It is short (33 minutes), but some great stuff. (Spotify album link - YouTube links to songs below).
Different versions of other songs from the set may (or may not) make my 31. So, I’ll just post these two tracks that I’ll acknowledge won’t make my 31 in any recording — I enjoy the tracks, but just tough to knock past some long-time favorites.
“You’ve Got to Learn” is the title track. Some audio issues at the beginning, but those get fixed and it settles in for a soulful ride with great vocals and piano from Nina (as always). Love her delivery of lines like “You’ve got to learn to leave the table, when love’s no longer being served,” with a rise to the end of the song.
Another favorite is this “gutbucket blues” rendition of “Blues for Mama.” After one particularly blistering section of the song (around 2:00 minutes), she tells the audience “I guess you ain’t ready for that yet”, like Marty McFly out of Back to the Future. The album also has an intro to the track with Nina Simone painting a picture for the audience of the scene.
Different versions of other songs from the set may (or may not) make my 31. So, I’ll just post these two tracks that I’ll acknowledge won’t make my 31 in any recording — I enjoy the tracks, but just tough to knock past some long-time favorites.
“You’ve Got to Learn” is the title track. Some audio issues at the beginning, but those get fixed and it settles in for a soulful ride with great vocals and piano from Nina (as always). Love her delivery of lines like “You’ve got to learn to leave the table, when love’s no longer being served,” with a rise to the end of the song.
Another favorite is this “gutbucket blues” rendition of “Blues for Mama.” After one particularly blistering section of the song (around 2:00 minutes), she tells the audience “I guess you ain’t ready for that yet”, like Marty McFly out of Back to the Future. The album also has an intro to the track with Nina Simone painting a picture for the audience of the scene.
Yo Mama
Footballguy
BEASTIE BOYS
A big part of why the Beasties are on of my favorite bands/groups is the varieties of style they offer from album to album and from song to song. They can shift from hip-hop to punk to funky instrumentals to sampling mixology and all parts in between from song to song within an album and do so seamlessly. Their lyrics can be funny, immature, and extremely unserious, but can also be insightful, introspective, and even topical.
In my top 31, I tried to show all of these styles in various forms. I wanted to include a few songs to add to the variety, but ultimately had to cut them since I still wanted to represent my favorites here. I’ve got hits, deeper cuts, songs with guest features, remixes, jams, and bonus tracks represented. I’m sure there will be some surprise omissions - there were some really tough ones to leave out of my top 31.
I have fewer stories to tell with this round of songs than I did with Genesis, so I’m going to provide the following info with each of my Beastie Boys writeups.
Peacockin’ - a tally of how many references are made within the song to Ad-Rock, MCA, Mike D, the Beastie Boys, or the greater NYC area.
Name Rockin’ - from Fred Flintstone, to Rod Carew, to Jacoby & Meyers, the boys are always dropping plenty of famous and infamous names in their songs. I list them all here.
Rhyme Squawkin’ - I list my favorite verses here.
Yo Mama Talkin’ - anything on my mind or interesting things to me to call out for each song.
Forewarning: There will be some NSFW language and some dabbling in misogyny (although I tried to avoid some of the worst of it).
A big part of why the Beasties are on of my favorite bands/groups is the varieties of style they offer from album to album and from song to song. They can shift from hip-hop to punk to funky instrumentals to sampling mixology and all parts in between from song to song within an album and do so seamlessly. Their lyrics can be funny, immature, and extremely unserious, but can also be insightful, introspective, and even topical.
In my top 31, I tried to show all of these styles in various forms. I wanted to include a few songs to add to the variety, but ultimately had to cut them since I still wanted to represent my favorites here. I’ve got hits, deeper cuts, songs with guest features, remixes, jams, and bonus tracks represented. I’m sure there will be some surprise omissions - there were some really tough ones to leave out of my top 31.
I have fewer stories to tell with this round of songs than I did with Genesis, so I’m going to provide the following info with each of my Beastie Boys writeups.
Peacockin’ - a tally of how many references are made within the song to Ad-Rock, MCA, Mike D, the Beastie Boys, or the greater NYC area.
Name Rockin’ - from Fred Flintstone, to Rod Carew, to Jacoby & Meyers, the boys are always dropping plenty of famous and infamous names in their songs. I list them all here.
Rhyme Squawkin’ - I list my favorite verses here.
Yo Mama Talkin’ - anything on my mind or interesting things to me to call out for each song.
Forewarning: There will be some NSFW language and some dabbling in misogyny (although I tried to avoid some of the worst of it).
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Drive-By Truckers’ musical style is somewhat eclectic (depending in part on the songwriter) and incorporates elements of rock and roll, southern rock, country, punk, cow-punk, blues, and southern soul. They cite the following bands as their biggest influences: The Clash, Lynyrd Skynyrd, George Jones, Tammy Wynette, Neil Young, Merle Haggard and Townes Van Zandt.
Drive-By Truckers was cofounded by Patterson Hood (son of bassist David Hood of the Muscle Shoals Rhythm Section) and longtime friend, former roommate, and musical partner Mike Cooley in Athens, Georgia, in 1996.
They have been the two steady members of the band along with drummer Brad Morgan as the only other member that has been around for all of their major label albums.
The band had three main singer/songwriters/lead guitarists, the aforementioned Patterson Hood and Mike Cooley, and Jason Isbell, who was in the band from 2001-2007. Isbell’s problems with alcohol caused him to leave the band, before starting a solo career that has arguably been more successful than that of his former band. Truth be told I prefer Isbell’s music a little bit more than the DBT’s but thought that would perhaps be a little too much pure country for some tastes in here.
I’d expect Hood’s vocals to turn some people off – especially when he breaks out his “angry southern man” voice. It did for me to some extent – but his songs usually rock the hardest for the band and have the better musical fills, so I’ve accepted it and grown accustomed to it.
While I said earlier that I prefer Isbell’s solo music to the DBTs’ by a slight margin, within the setting of the band Mike Cooley’s songs do the most for me. His songs are more straight up blues based rock and roll and he’s among the most clever lyricists out there. His voice is not anything great but it’s pleasant and works in context.
Jason Isbell has by far the smoothest vocals but is the most country leaning among the three. I love all of his DBT songs, but I feel like he really found his own way when he left the band and is now one of the best songwriters of the modern era. He’s more traditional country (with a slight rock leaning) than the junk that passes for country on the radio today.
DBTs’ music can be a tour de force at times – especially during the Isbell years when they featured, much like Skynyrd, three lead guitars.
For the last four years straight, DBT has finished in my Spotify year end Top 5 – and I suppose they’ll now be a lock for a 5th year, after putting my list together.
Hopefully, you guys enjoy the ride.
I'll try to start getting people a little used to Hood's vocals with a bonus track, a cover of Warren Zevon's Play It All Night Long (which also breaks into Ain't That Pretty At All in the middle,
Drive-By Truckers was cofounded by Patterson Hood (son of bassist David Hood of the Muscle Shoals Rhythm Section) and longtime friend, former roommate, and musical partner Mike Cooley in Athens, Georgia, in 1996.
They have been the two steady members of the band along with drummer Brad Morgan as the only other member that has been around for all of their major label albums.
The band had three main singer/songwriters/lead guitarists, the aforementioned Patterson Hood and Mike Cooley, and Jason Isbell, who was in the band from 2001-2007. Isbell’s problems with alcohol caused him to leave the band, before starting a solo career that has arguably been more successful than that of his former band. Truth be told I prefer Isbell’s music a little bit more than the DBT’s but thought that would perhaps be a little too much pure country for some tastes in here.
I’d expect Hood’s vocals to turn some people off – especially when he breaks out his “angry southern man” voice. It did for me to some extent – but his songs usually rock the hardest for the band and have the better musical fills, so I’ve accepted it and grown accustomed to it.
While I said earlier that I prefer Isbell’s solo music to the DBTs’ by a slight margin, within the setting of the band Mike Cooley’s songs do the most for me. His songs are more straight up blues based rock and roll and he’s among the most clever lyricists out there. His voice is not anything great but it’s pleasant and works in context.
Jason Isbell has by far the smoothest vocals but is the most country leaning among the three. I love all of his DBT songs, but I feel like he really found his own way when he left the band and is now one of the best songwriters of the modern era. He’s more traditional country (with a slight rock leaning) than the junk that passes for country on the radio today.
DBTs’ music can be a tour de force at times – especially during the Isbell years when they featured, much like Skynyrd, three lead guitars.
For the last four years straight, DBT has finished in my Spotify year end Top 5 – and I suppose they’ll now be a lock for a 5th year, after putting my list together.
Hopefully, you guys enjoy the ride.
I'll try to start getting people a little used to Hood's vocals with a bonus track, a cover of Warren Zevon's Play It All Night Long (which also breaks into Ain't That Pretty At All in the middle,
Charlie Steiner
Footballguy
With the previous two posts in front of me, I can't think of a better place to start, though things won't get really started until the list reveals are underway. Here we go...
A Short Primer on Bluegrass Music
Bluegrass is the eventual name of the music created by early European (mainly Scot and Irish) settlers in the Appalachian mountain range. Starting life as a form of the traditional folk and religious music from the old country, played not only on instruments they brought with them, i.e. the guitar, mandolin, violin/fiddle and even bagpipes, but also incorporating a key instrument introduced to them during the antebellum/slavery era: the banjo. Accredited to being introduced to the U.S. by slaves, this instrument more than others proved to be the main catalyst in creating the genre's definitive and uniquely American sound. In addition to updating their old-timey music, this new sound also shared components with jazz, in particular allowing space for each instrument to have an improvised solo.
With the development of the radio and recording technology in the 1920s-1930s, old-time mountain hillbilly music expanded its audience and began to create a recorded history. Until the convergence of these advancements, the 'genre' wasn't official, existing informally as 'hillbilly music'. Whether it was a coincidence or not, this period in time also saw the arrival of Bill Monroe and his band The Blue Grass Boys, who took the region by storm and unofficially organized this sound into a more standard format as well as providing its name.
Bonus track #1: Mule Skinner Blues
What you're hearing is one of the first recorded songs by the Father of Bluegrass, Bill Monroe. Mule Skinner Blues was originally written and recorded by 'The Father of Country Music' Jimmy Rodgers 10 years before this version, which I would call 'proto-bluegrass'; the twang and yodel associated with early country music is absent, the tempo is quicker and instrumentation more more varied, albeit only slightly.
Bill Monroe and his band's first iteration was more of a guitar and fiddle band; the later addition of Lester Flatt with his mandolin and Earl Scruggs with his banjo to the accompaniment gave birth to the 'standard' bluegrass sound. The stand-up bass and later the dobro (also known as resonating guitar, due to the built in metal resonator) would be added, but the banjo and mandolin were the first step in the divergence of country and bluegrass.
The genre was overshadowed by the birth of Rock and Roll in the 50s, but experienced a bit of a revival in the 60s with the rise in popularity of its cousin, folk music, and even crossed over into mainstream culture on a few occasions, i.e. the Darlin Family on Andy Griffith, the theme song for The Beverly Hillbillies, the use of Foggy Mountain Breakdown in Bonnie and Clyde, and even the Dueling Banjos scene in Deliverance. Toward the end of the decade, bluegrass maintained a small but enthusiastic following, and it was during this time that the genre took another step in its evolution, adding more current and popular material into their repertoire.
The acceptance and incorporation of electric instruments during the 70s and 80s (and *sigh* drums in the 90s and beyond) signaled another step in its evolution, and as bluegrass races towards its 100th birthday, it remains the same up-tempo enigma it has always been: not quite country, not quite folk, not quite jazz and not quite jam band yet able to take songs from different genres and give them a whole new life, because it's still played by gifted musicians who love it passionately.
I think part of the reason bluegrass is maligned is its association with 'hillbilly' culture, which is where the original Seldom Scene broke the mold, as its origin was not the Appalachians but rather suburban Maryland. More on that later...
A Short Primer on Bluegrass Music
Bluegrass is the eventual name of the music created by early European (mainly Scot and Irish) settlers in the Appalachian mountain range. Starting life as a form of the traditional folk and religious music from the old country, played not only on instruments they brought with them, i.e. the guitar, mandolin, violin/fiddle and even bagpipes, but also incorporating a key instrument introduced to them during the antebellum/slavery era: the banjo. Accredited to being introduced to the U.S. by slaves, this instrument more than others proved to be the main catalyst in creating the genre's definitive and uniquely American sound. In addition to updating their old-timey music, this new sound also shared components with jazz, in particular allowing space for each instrument to have an improvised solo.
With the development of the radio and recording technology in the 1920s-1930s, old-time mountain hillbilly music expanded its audience and began to create a recorded history. Until the convergence of these advancements, the 'genre' wasn't official, existing informally as 'hillbilly music'. Whether it was a coincidence or not, this period in time also saw the arrival of Bill Monroe and his band The Blue Grass Boys, who took the region by storm and unofficially organized this sound into a more standard format as well as providing its name.
Bonus track #1: Mule Skinner Blues
What you're hearing is one of the first recorded songs by the Father of Bluegrass, Bill Monroe. Mule Skinner Blues was originally written and recorded by 'The Father of Country Music' Jimmy Rodgers 10 years before this version, which I would call 'proto-bluegrass'; the twang and yodel associated with early country music is absent, the tempo is quicker and instrumentation more more varied, albeit only slightly.
Bill Monroe and his band's first iteration was more of a guitar and fiddle band; the later addition of Lester Flatt with his mandolin and Earl Scruggs with his banjo to the accompaniment gave birth to the 'standard' bluegrass sound. The stand-up bass and later the dobro (also known as resonating guitar, due to the built in metal resonator) would be added, but the banjo and mandolin were the first step in the divergence of country and bluegrass.
The genre was overshadowed by the birth of Rock and Roll in the 50s, but experienced a bit of a revival in the 60s with the rise in popularity of its cousin, folk music, and even crossed over into mainstream culture on a few occasions, i.e. the Darlin Family on Andy Griffith, the theme song for The Beverly Hillbillies, the use of Foggy Mountain Breakdown in Bonnie and Clyde, and even the Dueling Banjos scene in Deliverance. Toward the end of the decade, bluegrass maintained a small but enthusiastic following, and it was during this time that the genre took another step in its evolution, adding more current and popular material into their repertoire.
The acceptance and incorporation of electric instruments during the 70s and 80s (and *sigh* drums in the 90s and beyond) signaled another step in its evolution, and as bluegrass races towards its 100th birthday, it remains the same up-tempo enigma it has always been: not quite country, not quite folk, not quite jazz and not quite jam band yet able to take songs from different genres and give them a whole new life, because it's still played by gifted musicians who love it passionately.
I think part of the reason bluegrass is maligned is its association with 'hillbilly' culture, which is where the original Seldom Scene broke the mold, as its origin was not the Appalachians but rather suburban Maryland. More on that later...
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MAC_32
Footballguy
While the frequency of vulgarity is quite a bit less than the Beastie Boys I echo this warning for Incubus. Brandon Boyd's opinions towards women are also quite a bit different than what churned out of Brooklyn in the 1980's.
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
Is there a way to link them in the OP?
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
Well, I tried for blurb and preview Thursday, but you weirdos still watch football or something.
Just Win Baby
Footballguy
More NSFW language in my Mike Shinoda list.
My list contains songs from:
His music has been characterized as falling into many different genres, including:
My list contains songs from:
- Mike Shinoda (solo)
- Linkin Park, including several LP songs featuring other artists
- Fort Minor
- X-Ecutioners
His music has been characterized as falling into many different genres, including:
- Nu metal
- Hip hop
- Rap metal
- Rap rock
- Rapcore
- Alternative rock
- Alternative metal
- Hard rock
- Pop rock
- Pop
- Electronic rock
- Industrial rock
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Ok I hope to pop in here later after my wife and eat, drink, etc.Well, I tried for blurb and preview Thursday, but you weirdos still watch football or something.
Uruk-Hai
Footballguy
Hood's voice never bothered me (I like it a lot), but maybe that's because I've been listening to singers with his style most of my life. He's a little higher pitched than many of the singers he resembles (like RVZ), but his phrasing is straight out of southern rock, outlaw country, and many of the Americana godfathers. There's some Hank Williams and bluegrass stylings in there, too. I think he has a great voice for the types of songs he sings. I could see it being an acquired taste for folks weaned on music from the NE, upper MW, and West Coast though.
Yo Mama
Footballguy
My kids’ first rock concert when they were something like 8 and 10 years old was Linkin Park and Incubus. Since we know members of Incubus, we got awesome seats (10th row center or something crazy like that) and were able to go backstage after.
The kids knew more about Linkin Park and were standing on their seats screaming “Shut up when I’m talking to you!” with their fists in the air. Those were fairly bad words at the time for them but we let it slide since it was so awesome.
My wife and I also went to the memorial concert for Chester at the Hollywood Bowl not long after his death (it was originally supposed to be a LP concert). Such an incredible experience.
The kids knew more about Linkin Park and were standing on their seats screaming “Shut up when I’m talking to you!” with their fists in the air. Those were fairly bad words at the time for them but we let it slide since it was so awesome.
My wife and I also went to the memorial concert for Chester at the Hollywood Bowl not long after his death (it was originally supposed to be a LP concert). Such an incredible experience.
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
If that etc I'd what I think it is, I have more weird Mastodon videos to unleash for you allOk I hope to pop in here later after my wife and eat, drink, etc.Well, I tried for blurb and preview Thursday, but you weirdos still watch football or something.
I watched Cooking with Mastodon on break today if interested. 
Uruk-Hai
Footballguy
Hippies also got turned onto it after getting semi-burnt out on Rock God Excess in the '70s. My aunt was one - she's the one who got me into Seldom Scene and several of their contemporaries.
I can't even tell you how many bluegrass festivals I went to in the '80s/'90s. God, those were fun - 2 or 3 days, pitch a tent, everyone sharing (food, booze, dope), music whenever you wanted to hear it. But the most fun was just walking around the campgrounds. You'd turn a corner and there's an impromptu jam session among festival goers - some dressed like Deadheads, or some 80 year-old folks, or some little kids - all mixed up together. I may be forgetting, but I don't ever recall seeing a fight or people getting ignorant.
Charlie Steiner
Footballguy
We went to many bluegrass/folk festivals in the 70's, and the vibe was pretty much what you mentioned, minus the hippies/Dead Heads; at least, they weren't dressed that way. Seemed more like mostly 'normal' dressed folks, but yeah, lots of impromptu jam sessions all over the place. One thing I didn't mention in my write-up is that Jerry Garcia had been introduced to bluegrass and was a fan before forming the Grateful Dead.
Also, I'm glad to hear you already have a connection to the 'Scene. Part of the next chapter involves your old neck of the woods.
Uruk-Hai
Footballguy
The funny thing is that I can't recall seeing the Seldom Scene at any of those festivals. I know they had to play some of them. I do have legitimate reasons for the memory lapse, but you'd think I'd at least remember them as they were the biggest bluegrass act in the area. I know I saw JD Crow & The New South a few times. And, of course, Bill Harrell.
The festival at Conowingo State Park in Maryland was probably the best, just for the layout (wooded campgrounds instead of being out in a field with no shade). There was also one near Harrisonburg, VA that was a similar set-up.
-OZ-
Footballguy
My choice needs no introduction, everyone knows the man.
Jimmy Buffett
Born on Christmas Day 1946 (same year as my dad), he was a gift to us all. Born in Pascagoula, Mississippi, spent part of his childhood in Mobile and Fairhope, Alabama. His dad worked for the Army corps of engineers.
He was a Catholic altar boy
played trombone (which I also did).
Failed out of Auburn. War
!
Got his adult life started in Nashville before moving to Key west. His agent tried to make him the replacement for Jim Croce.
His first album has three of the greats, including every frat boy’s go to “why don’t we get drunk and screw” https://youtu.be/7RgyNCt9UXs?si=vlbJVAWBDo5ah21m
It would take Jimmy 30 years for an album to top the charts, and probably not one most would expect, although it does have a couple of my favorites. (License to chill).
He even became a decent author, a salty piece of land is a good read imo.
He became fairly prolific with his cameos, and even sang with a certain
.
Overall, his music is fantastic but he’s really known for his live experiences and cult following.
Here’s to you Parrot heads
Jimmy Buffett
Born on Christmas Day 1946 (same year as my dad), he was a gift to us all. Born in Pascagoula, Mississippi, spent part of his childhood in Mobile and Fairhope, Alabama. His dad worked for the Army corps of engineers.
He was a Catholic altar boy
played trombone (which I also did). Failed out of Auburn. War
!Got his adult life started in Nashville before moving to Key west. His agent tried to make him the replacement for Jim Croce.
His first album has three of the greats, including every frat boy’s go to “why don’t we get drunk and screw” https://youtu.be/7RgyNCt9UXs?si=vlbJVAWBDo5ah21m
It would take Jimmy 30 years for an album to top the charts, and probably not one most would expect, although it does have a couple of my favorites. (License to chill).
He even became a decent author, a salty piece of land is a good read imo.
He became fairly prolific with his cameos, and even sang with a certain
. Overall, his music is fantastic but he’s really known for his live experiences and cult following.
Here’s to you Parrot heads
Charlie Steiner
Footballguy
Over the course of my list, there may be an explanation for their absence.
snellman
Footballguy
Never heard of them, but listening to your sample, I am looking forward to it. I had a definite southern rock sound that I enjoy.
snellman
Footballguy
I was debating posting this with my other one because it is a fairly political song, but I am hoping that us MAD's are neutral enough to not be offended. If you are I apologize, but it is an interesting number but not top 31 worthy.
We the people.
We the people.
John Maddens Lunchbox
Socialism for Dummies
Thank you.
I know everyone is excited as they develop and finish their rankings, but these very interesting blurbs will be impossible to find once we start listening to the playlists.
Anyway
Röyksopp
They are a duo and Norwegian.
They get other people to sing for them…most of the time
Tears for Fears
They are a duo (most of the time) and English
They alternate vocals between the duo
More closer to the start of this.
krista4
Footballguy
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Are we getting a Ringo list for this one?
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
WTF is rapcore?
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
1. I think it might be a decent idea to ask @Zegras11 to pin or link to OP. If not, I am happy to do a link on my first post of the thread and link these. Just a simple KP - Mastodon with a link to my 1 or 2 main posts about the band.
2. Sorry, this is one of my very few outlets for geeking out about music. I thought a slow release of posts like these would be a good build up to the 1st because there isn't much chatter in either thread currently. IMO 45 of these posts on Oct 1st can be overwhelming too.
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
I love the categories - great way to think about the songs. I was trying figure out something as well when listening to mine - like a favorite part or two in the songs and give 'em a
rating or something? Trouble is I have no decent language for music, so my descriptions would be like transition 1 or cymbal thingy at 3:15.Similar threads
