Malaysian plane shot down in Ukraine. (1 Viewer)

[Gopher State]

I hope the U.S. takes quick action in this matter

 

[Aerial Assault]

OMG OBAMA HASN'T CANCELLED ALL OF HIS PLANS FOR THE NEXT THREE WEEKS TO VISIT THE CRASH SITE AND PERSONALLY CLEAN UP ALL OF THE CARNAGE.

AND HE SAID IT "MAY BE A TERRIBLE TRAGEDY" RATHER THAN SAYING THAT IT IS ONE.

IMPEACH! IMPEACH!

Ted Cruz alias?

 

[flapgreen]

This is Tim's kind of thread.

 

[jonessed]

OMG OBAMA HASN'T CANCELLED ALL OF HIS PLANS FOR THE NEXT THREE WEEKS TO VISIT THE CRASH SITE AND PERSONALLY CLEAN UP ALL OF THE CARNAGE.

AND HE SAID IT "MAY BE A TERRIBLE TRAGEDY" RATHER THAN SAYING THAT IT IS ONE.

IMPEACH! IMPEACH!

Your schtick is awful.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

I'm sure this has been asked before, but I'm late to the party -

Can anyone recall a civilian aircraft being shot down by a foreign military before? What were the consequences?

Both the US and Soviet Union have done it, an Iranian and Korean airliner, respectively. Not much.

That was a different time though, nothing could be done. No globalization, Russia wasn't dependent on others for their survival, and the one we shot down was from a country we had no diplomatic ties to.

Very true, much different time. Didn't mean to imply that nothing will happen this time.

Europe's has to take a lead on this. If Russia is truly responsible, even by accident, and they do not own complete responsibility then action must be taken.

I would probably go full economic isolation and if I were a country with citizens on that plane, I'd draw down my diplomatic staffs immediately. No visas for any Russian citizens, put NATO on high alert to defend the Ukraine and tell Russia it's time to go.

But this is Europe's backyard, they have to force Russia's hand here.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

OMG OBAMA HASN'T CANCELLED ALL OF HIS PLANS FOR THE NEXT THREE WEEKS TO VISIT THE CRASH SITE AND PERSONALLY CLEAN UP ALL OF THE CARNAGE.

AND HE SAID IT "MAY BE A TERRIBLE TRAGEDY" RATHER THAN SAYING THAT IT IS ONE.

IMPEACH! IMPEACH!

Your schtick is awfully good.

 

[flapgreen]

Presidents don't need to go into bunker mode every time bad #### goes down, I don't understand why people think this has to happen. They are pretty much in crisis response mode 24/7, it's part of the job description.

Bill? Clinton? Is that you?

 

[flapgreen]

He thinks that it MAY be a terrible tragedy, yet continues on with jokes? What a leader.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2696366/It-looks-like-terrible-tragedy-Obama-briefly-addresses-Malaysian-plane-crash-emerges-23-U-S-passengers-board.html

Barack Obama provoked fury in the U.S. by casually devoting mere moments to the deaths of 295 people aboard a Malaysian airliner on Thursday in Wilmington, Delaware, and then launching into jokes and his prepared remarks on the need to expand America's transportation infrastructure.

Twenty-three Americans are feared dead after the jetliner crashed in eastern Ukraine.

Obama declared that 'it looks like it may be a terrible tragedy, but not before enthusiastically declaring that 'it is wonderful to be back in Delaware.'

Give it a rest, weirdo.

Waaahhhhh, did I hurt your little feelings by criticizing our esteemed "leader"?

I dislike Obama as much as anyone but I dislike you more. You have problems.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Presidents don't need to go into bunker mode every time bad #### goes down, I don't understand why people think this has to happen. They are pretty much in crisis response mode 24/7, it's part of the job description.

Bill? Clinton? Is that you?

 

[Politician Spock]

Video of falling plane: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ffc_1405644832

 

[jamny]

Presidents don't need to go into bunker mode every time bad #### goes down, I don't understand why people think this has to happen. They are pretty much in crisis response mode 24/7, it's part of the job description.

I get that but it seems like he might have been able to skip a fundraiser tonight. Maybe not the night for it. I know I put too much emphasis on perception but it does mean something to me.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Presidents don't need to go into bunker mode every time bad #### goes down, I don't understand why people think this has to happen. They are pretty much in crisis response mode 24/7, it's part of the job description.

I get that but it seems like he might have been able to skip a fundraiser tonight. Maybe not the night for it. I know I put too much emphasis on perception but it does mean something to me.

Were you equally as mad when GW didn't come back from Crawford every time something terrible happened? Clinton in Martha's Vineyard, GHW at Camp David. Doesn't matter the president, they always get this same criticism. In today's linked world, you can pretty much be anywhere you want anytime you want. Canceling or putting stuff off as a president ends up getting you a backlog of stuff you never wanted to do in the first place. Fund-raising as a second-term sitting president cannot be very much fun.

 

[mr roboto]

Presidents don't need to go into bunker mode every time bad #### goes down, I don't understand why people think this has to happen. They are pretty much in crisis response mode 24/7, it's part of the job description.

I get that but it seems like he might have been able to skip a fundraiser tonight. Maybe not the night for it. I know I put too much emphasis on perception but it does mean something to me.

Should he do this if 300 people were killed in a suicide bombing in Africa? Or is it just cause a big plane fell out of the sky?

 

[mcintyre1]

MORE than 100 AIDS activists, researchers and health workers bound for a major conference in Melbourne were on the Malaysia Airlines flight downed in the Ukraine.

 

[BeaverCleaver]

Video of falling plane: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ffc_1405644832

The comments from that link seem to indicate it wasn't this plane.

 

[Christo]

I hope the U.S. takes quick action in this matter

 

[jamny]

Presidents don't need to go into bunker mode every time bad #### goes down, I don't understand why people think this has to happen. They are pretty much in crisis response mode 24/7, it's part of the job description.

I get that but it seems like he might have been able to skip a fundraiser tonight. Maybe not the night for it. I know I put too much emphasis on perception but it does mean something to me.

Should he do this if 300 people were killed in a suicide bombing in Africa? Or is it just cause a big plane fell out of the sky?

There also happens to be an escalation of the situation in Israel. I understand not everyone feels the same as I do but sorry, I just feel that maybe tonight isn't the night for a fundraiser.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Terrific, a bunch of people who made it their lives work to help other people.

 

[eurotrashman]

Presidents don't need to go into bunker mode every time bad #### goes down, I don't understand why people think this has to happen. They are pretty much in crisis response mode 24/7, it's part of the job description.

I get that but it seems like he might have been able to skip a fundraiser tonight. Maybe not the night for it. I know I put too much emphasis on perception but it does mean something to me.

Should he do this if 300 people were killed in a suicide bombing in Africa? Or is it just cause a big plane fell out of the sky?

There also happens to be an escalation of the situation in Israel. I understand not everyone feels the same as I do but sorry, I just feel that maybe tonight isn't the night for a fundraiser.

I'm surprised you feel this way.

 

[HellToupee]

OMG OBAMA HASN'T CANCELLED ALL OF HIS PLANS FOR THE NEXT THREE WEEKS TO VISIT THE CRASH SITE AND PERSONALLY CLEAN UP ALL OF THE CARNAGE.

AND HE SAID IT "MAY BE A TERRIBLE TRAGEDY" RATHER THAN SAYING THAT IT IS ONE.

IMPEACH! IMPEACH!

this thread needs more obnoxious posts like this

 

[BustedKnuckles]

MORE than 100 AIDS activists, researchers and health workers bound for a major conference in Melbourne were on the Malaysia Airlines flight downed in the Ukraine.

boy ...Russia really doesnt want a cure for aids

 

[HellToupee]

I'm sure this has been asked before, but I'm late to the party -

Can anyone recall a civilian aircraft being shot down by a foreign military before? What were the consequences?

Both the US and Soviet Union have done it, an Iranian and Korean airliner, respectively. Not much.

That was a different time though, nothing could be done. No globalization, Russia wasn't dependent on others for their survival, and the one we shot down was from a country we had no diplomatic ties to.

Very true, much different time. Didn't mean to imply that nothing will happen this time.

Europe's has to take a lead on this. If Russia is truly responsible, even by accident, and they do not own complete responsibility then action must be taken.

I would probably go full economic isolation and if I were a country with citizens on that plane, I'd draw down my diplomatic staffs immediately. No visas for any Russian citizens, put NATO on high alert to defend the Ukraine and tell Russia it's time to go.

But this is Europe's backyard, they have to force Russia's hand here.

This is Europe's game but I doubt they'll do anything more than ceremonial so they don't screw with Russia's gas

 

[BustedKnuckles]

I'm sure this has been asked before, but I'm late to the party -

Can anyone recall a civilian aircraft being shot down by a foreign military before? What were the consequences?

Both the US and Soviet Union have done it, an Iranian and Korean airliner, respectively. Not much.

That was a different time though, nothing could be done. No globalization, Russia wasn't dependent on others for their survival, and the one we shot down was from a country we had no diplomatic ties to.

Very true, much different time. Didn't mean to imply that nothing will happen this time.

Europe's has to take a lead on this. If Russia is truly responsible, even by accident, and they do not own complete responsibility then action must be taken.

I would probably go full economic isolation and if I were a country with citizens on that plane, I'd draw down my diplomatic staffs immediately. No visas for any Russian citizens, put NATO on high alert to defend the Ukraine and tell Russia it's time to go.

But this is Europe's backyard, they have to force Russia's hand here.

This is Europe's game but I doubt they'll do anything more than ceremonial so they don't screw with Russia's gas

Russia should find the crew that manned the missiles and execute them on live tv...that may go a long way to getting forgiveness

 

[jamny]

Presidents don't need to go into bunker mode every time bad #### goes down, I don't understand why people think this has to happen. They are pretty much in crisis response mode 24/7, it's part of the job description.

I get that but it seems like he might have been able to skip a fundraiser tonight. Maybe not the night for it. I know I put too much emphasis on perception but it does mean something to me.

Should he do this if 300 people were killed in a suicide bombing in Africa? Or is it just cause a big plane fell out of the sky?

There also happens to be an escalation of the situation in Israel. I understand not everyone feels the same as I do but sorry, I just feel that maybe tonight isn't the night for a fundraiser.

I'm surprised you feel this way.

Really?

Why is that?

 

[HellToupee]

I'm sure this has been asked before, but I'm late to the party -

Can anyone recall a civilian aircraft being shot down by a foreign military before? What were the consequences?

Both the US and Soviet Union have done it, an Iranian and Korean airliner, respectively. Not much.

That was a different time though, nothing could be done. No globalization, Russia wasn't dependent on others for their survival, and the one we shot down was from a country we had no diplomatic ties to.

Very true, much different time. Didn't mean to imply that nothing will happen this time.

Europe's has to take a lead on this. If Russia is truly responsible, even by accident, and they do not own complete responsibility then action must be taken.

I would probably go full economic isolation and if I were a country with citizens on that plane, I'd draw down my diplomatic staffs immediately. No visas for any Russian citizens, put NATO on high alert to defend the Ukraine and tell Russia it's time to go.

But this is Europe's backyard, they have to force Russia's hand here.

This is Europe's game but I doubt they'll do anything more than ceremonial so they don't screw with Russia's gas

Russia should find the crew that manned the missiles and execute them on live tv...that may go a long way to getting forgiveness

Putin might have already taken care of the crew

 

[HellToupee]

geez these ######l mesh commercials give me the willies

 

[HellToupee]

geez these ######l mesh commercials give me the willies

V is censored. I wonder if penis is.

Well penis is ok but V=###### isn't

strange

 

[Jim11]

He thinks that it MAY be a terrible tragedy, yet continues on with jokes? What a leader.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2696366/It-looks-like-terrible-tragedy-Obama-briefly-addresses-Malaysian-plane-crash-emerges-23-U-S-passengers-board.html

Barack Obama provoked fury in the U.S. by casually devoting mere moments to the deaths of 295 people aboard a Malaysian airliner on Thursday in Wilmington, Delaware, and then launching into jokes and his prepared remarks on the need to expand America's transportation infrastructure.

Twenty-three Americans are feared dead after the jetliner crashed in eastern Ukraine.

Obama declared that 'it looks like it may be a terrible tragedy, but not before enthusiastically declaring that 'it is wonderful to be back in Delaware.'

Give it a rest, weirdo.

Waaahhhhh, did I hurt your little feelings by criticizing our esteemed "leader"?

I dislike Obama as much as anyone but I dislike you more. You have problems.

You make no sense. You dislike me more than you dislike Obama. I'm a nobody, while Obama does things that affect millions of people. You're the one with problems.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

Just watched an eyewitness account of the crash scene ....guy said the bodies were everywhere and turned inside out :X

 

[jamny]

Were other commercial planes flying over the same area?

 

[Aerial Assault]

Presidents don't need to go into bunker mode every time bad #### goes down, I don't understand why people think this has to happen. They are pretty much in crisis response mode 24/7, it's part of the job description.

I get that but it seems like he might have been able to skip a fundraiser tonight. Maybe not the night for it. I know I put too much emphasis on perception but it does mean something to me.

You were equally outraged when Bush the Lesser feted McCain with a birthday cake as the citizens of New Orleans were suffering unspeakable tragedy and horrors because of Hurricane Katrina, right?

While New Orleans was drowning

 

[jamny]

Presidents don't need to go into bunker mode every time bad #### goes down, I don't understand why people think this has to happen. They are pretty much in crisis response mode 24/7, it's part of the job description.

I get that but it seems like he might have been able to skip a fundraiser tonight. Maybe not the night for it. I know I put too much emphasis on perception but it does mean something to me.

You were equally outraged when Bush the Lesser feted McCain with a birthday cake as the citizens of New Orleans were suffering unspeakable tragedy and horrors because of Hurricane Katrina, right?

While New Orleans was drowning

If true, that isn't right either. I don't remember that happening at the time, do you? Or is it something that came out after the fact? That's the first time I heard of it.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

Glad you guys are on the case.

 

[Aerial Assault]

Presidents don't need to go into bunker mode every time bad #### goes down, I don't understand why people think this has to happen. They are pretty much in crisis response mode 24/7, it's part of the job description.

I get that but it seems like he might have been able to skip a fundraiser tonight. Maybe not the night for it. I know I put too much emphasis on perception but it does mean something to me.

You were equally outraged when Bush the Lesser feted McCain with a birthday cake as the citizens of New Orleans were suffering unspeakable tragedy and horrors because of Hurricane Katrina, right?

While New Orleans was drowning

If true, that isn't right either. I don't remember that happening at the time, do you? Or is it something that came out after the fact?

Do I remember it happening at the time? Absolutely. A storm of almost unheard-of intensity was inexorably descending on a major city with landfall imminent . . . and the president was out in Arizona doing goofy political stuff to boost the image of the guy viewed as his hoped-for successor. Remaining in the White House to be briefed on the unfolding crisis was probably the right move. And yeah, the birthday cake silliness was contemporaneously reported.

 

[Aerial Assault]

Glad you guys are on the case.

Holding down the fort until you and/or CNN weigh in

 

[jamny]

Presidents don't need to go into bunker mode every time bad #### goes down, I don't understand why people think this has to happen. They are pretty much in crisis response mode 24/7, it's part of the job description.

I get that but it seems like he might have been able to skip a fundraiser tonight. Maybe not the night for it. I know I put too much emphasis on perception but it does mean something to me.

You were equally outraged when Bush the Lesser feted McCain with a birthday cake as the citizens of New Orleans were suffering unspeakable tragedy and horrors because of Hurricane Katrina, right?

While New Orleans was drowning

If true, that isn't right either. I don't remember that happening at the time, do you? Or is it something that came out after the fact?

Do I remember it happening at the time? Absolutely. A storm of almost unheard-of intensity was inexorably descending on a major city with landfall imminent . . . and the president was out in Arizona doing goofy political stuff to boost the image of the guy viewed as his hoped-for successor. Remaining in the White House to be briefed on the unfolding crisis was probably the right move. And yeah, the birthday cake silliness was contemporaneously reported.

So he deserved criticism for it as Obama does now, imo.

 

[Aerial Assault]

Presidents don't need to go into bunker mode every time bad #### goes down, I don't understand why people think this has to happen. They are pretty much in crisis response mode 24/7, it's part of the job description.

I get that but it seems like he might have been able to skip a fundraiser tonight. Maybe not the night for it. I know I put too much emphasis on perception but it does mean something to me.

You were equally outraged when Bush the Lesser feted McCain with a birthday cake as the citizens of New Orleans were suffering unspeakable tragedy and horrors because of Hurricane Katrina, right?

While New Orleans was drowning

If true, that isn't right either. I don't remember that happening at the time, do you? Or is it something that came out after the fact?

Do I remember it happening at the time? Absolutely. A storm of almost unheard-of intensity was inexorably descending on a major city with landfall imminent . . . and the president was out in Arizona doing goofy political stuff to boost the image of the guy viewed as his hoped-for successor. Remaining in the White House to be briefed on the unfolding crisis was probably the right move. And yeah, the birthday cake silliness was contemporaneously reported.

So he deserved criticism for it as Obama does now, imo.

I actually would not have gone through with the fundraiser either, so I don't disagree with your overall point and I don't think (although I may be wrong) that you're coming from a knee-jerk Obama hater's perspective . . . but the two situations are not even remotely similar. They're both unspeakable tragedies, but one involved an imminent (and inevitable) threat to the entire citizenry of a large American city. The other, while absolutely of great concern and heartbreakingly, horrifyingly sad, does not.

 

[Run It Up]

Sleep schedule all messed up, woke up at 7pm today to Israel invading Gaza and a passenger jetliner filled with NATO civilians being shotdown by Russian rebels.

Unless the international community takes a collective nap, this is terrible, like Lusitania terrible.

 

[jamny]

Presidents don't need to go into bunker mode every time bad #### goes down, I don't understand why people think this has to happen. They are pretty much in crisis response mode 24/7, it's part of the job description.

I get that but it seems like he might have been able to skip a fundraiser tonight. Maybe not the night for it. I know I put too much emphasis on perception but it does mean something to me.

You were equally outraged when Bush the Lesser feted McCain with a birthday cake as the citizens of New Orleans were suffering unspeakable tragedy and horrors because of Hurricane Katrina, right?

While New Orleans was drowning

If true, that isn't right either. I don't remember that happening at the time, do you? Or is it something that came out after the fact?

Do I remember it happening at the time? Absolutely. A storm of almost unheard-of intensity was inexorably descending on a major city with landfall imminent . . . and the president was out in Arizona doing goofy political stuff to boost the image of the guy viewed as his hoped-for successor. Remaining in the White House to be briefed on the unfolding crisis was probably the right move. And yeah, the birthday cake silliness was contemporaneously reported.

So he deserved criticism for it as Obama does now, imo.

I actually would not have gone through with the fundraiser either, so I don't disagree with your overall point and I don't think (although I may be wrong) that you're coming from a knee-jerk Obama hater's perspective . . . but the two situations are not even remotely similar. They're both unspeakable tragedies, but one involved an imminent (and inevitable) threat to the entire citizenry of a large American city. The other, while absolutely of great concern and heartbreakingly, horrifyingly sad, does not.

I didn't bring up Katrina as a comparison. They aren't similar.

 

[Aerial Assault]

I didn't bring up Katrina as a comparison. They aren't similar.

I brought it up, because it doesn't take long to go back to find an example of a president who is not Obama acting with wild inappropriateness while a crisis was unfolding. Perhaps my point is not really aimed at you, but at all the teabag idiots who actually are trying to make an issue out of this.

 

[Jim11]

I didn't bring up Katrina as a comparison. They aren't similar.

I brought it up, because it doesn't take long to go back to find an example of a president who is not Obama acting with wild inappropriateness while a crisis was unfolding. Perhaps my point is not really aimed at you, but at all the teabag idiots who actually are trying to make an issue out of this.

Yeah, they should understand that it wasn't his fault. Nobody put what he SHOULD have said on the teleprompter...or suggested that maybe telling jokes right about then was inappropriate.

 

[tjnc09]

It’s an astonishing twist of fate – a Malaysian air steward is dead after swapping himself onto flight MH17, only months after his wife, who is also a steward, saved her own life by swapping herself off the missing Malaysian Airlines flight MH370.

Sanjid Singh's last minute decision to board Malaysian Airlines flight MH17 has devastated his family.

The Malaysian Insider reported that the 41-year-old had swapped flights with a colleague to fly on the Kuala Lumpur-bound Boeing 777.

His wife had swapped out of flight MH370 which has been missing since March.

The father of the steward, 71-year-old Jijar Singh, sobbed as he said was eager to see his only son after the flight.

'He always called us before he leaves for his trip,' Sanjid's father said.

'Sanjid's wife was meant to fly on MH370 but swapped with another colleague at the last minute,' he said.

 

[mr roboto]

Were other commercial planes flying over the same area?

Yes. Some jag-off on CNN tried to pin this on laziness or lack of planning on Malaysia Airlines. But they were north of the area that was under caution.

 

[mcintyre1]

Just watched an eyewitness account of the crash scene ....guy said the bodies were everywhere and turned inside out :X

There's video on LiveLeak... I don't think I'll ever forget some of those images. Not recommended viewing.

 

[Norman Paperman]

What will happen first, we find out who really shot down the plane, or we find the missing Malaysian Air plane?

 

[Mario Kart]

Just watched an eyewitness account of the crash scene ....guy said the bodies were everywhere and turned inside out :X

There's video on LiveLeak... I don't think I'll ever forget some of those images. Not recommended viewing.

The :30 one? Just wondering if there is more than one out there.

 

[ClownCausedChaos2]

Now I want cake.

 

[jamny]

How do they not know for sure if any Americans were on board?

 

[Eminence]

I don't get how you don't know who shot the missile. Shouldn't the list of people who have missiles be relatively short?

 

[BroncoFreak_2K3]

How do they not know for sure if any Americans were on board?

you are seriously surprised by this? par for the course with this administration.