nxmehta
Footballguy
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/foot...s.ap/index.html
Not that I'm surprised, and not that anyone cares...
Not that I'm surprised, and not that anyone cares...
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Mangini refuses to name starting QB... AGAIN (1 Viewer)
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10 years from now, when everyone is mimicing this shark strategy, you will look back and say, MANGENIUS!!!Hey are you starting Matt Ryan or the rookie from Rutgers this week coach...http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/foot...s.ap/index.html
Not that I'm surprised, and not that anyone cares...
You'll find out sunday guys. THis press conference is over!
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
Quinn wasn't that bad looking back on it.
Avery
Footballguy
Perhaps that's just a relative comparison to Anderson.Kinda like Gradowski looking great!
GreatLakesMike
Footballguy
Exactly. Quinn did look that bad. He's not nicknamed Captain Checkdown for no reason. Both QB's stink. If Ratliff can't play any better than Quinn and Anderson, then I wonder why he's even on an NFL roster? Seriously, can it get any worse?
TommyGilmore
Footballguy
It will be Anderson. Quinn won't start until Cleveland is safe from paying his last performance bonus.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
If anything, you'd think he would name his starting QB just to avoid the derisive criticism he received last time he pulled this tactic. At least the last time the commentators/fans didn't KNOW that Quinn couldn't really throw deep and Anderson couldn't throw at all.
top dog
Footballguy
I don't know if they were correct or not but I remember the announcers talking about that last game and they said he could start after the bye and not reach 70% of the snaps or whatever it was that he needed...
kaa
Footballguy
Quinn certainly isn't as bad as he has looked in 2009. He has seriously regressed, and I blame the coaching.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
They have 5, count 'em, 5, offensive touchdowns in their last 14 games, so, no.
TommyGilmore
Footballguy
This article says that Quinn gets a $1.32 million bonus at 45% of the snaps, then a $5 million bonus if he hits 70%.It's no longer possible for Quinn to reach 70%, but he could still reach 45%. I guess $1.32 million is small potatoes in today's NFL, but if the team is going to lose no matter who plays QB, then they may as well save some money while they're losing. Plus, there's still time to evaluate Quinn if he plays the final 4-5 games of the season and finishes at 44.9%.I don't know if they were correct or not but I remember the announcers talking about that last game and they said he could start after the bye and not reach 70% of the snaps or whatever it was that he needed...
We rarely agree, but this time you are spot on.TommyGilmore
Footballguy
The Browns are on pace for 926 offensive snaps, which means that Quinn must play fewer than 417 snaps to avoid paying his bonus.
So far, he's played 140 snaps, which leaves him with 277.
At their current pace of 57.9 snaps per game, Quinn would reach 277 in 4.8 games.
I don't think we'll see Quinn before Week 13 unless it's an emergency situation.
So far, he's played 140 snaps, which leaves him with 277.
At their current pace of 57.9 snaps per game, Quinn would reach 277 in 4.8 games.
I don't think we'll see Quinn before Week 13 unless it's an emergency situation.
Frenchy Fuqua
Footballguy
Saw the stat that the Saints D has scored more TD than the Browns O this year.
Sleeping King
Footballguy
The rumor is that it is down to Sipe or Kosar. I would probably say the shark move is to pick up Sipe since he is older.
Kool-Aid Larry
Footballguy
to be fair to mangina, maybe he just doesn't want to say the words.
it would be hard to say something like that in front of the entire world --- "DEREK ANDERSON IS MY STARTING QUARTERBACK!!!!!"
it would be hard to say something like that in front of the entire world --- "DEREK ANDERSON IS MY STARTING QUARTERBACK!!!!!"
Jewell
Footballguy
Opposing defenses are trembling now, "Who will have to prepare for? Anderson or Quinn?" I'm sure it's keeping them up at night.
Doesn't Mangini realize that he's the only coach that does this so it makes him look like even more of a buffoon than he already is? Other coaches do it with backs and injureds players, but how many do it with their starting QB?
And I wonder if this lays any credence to the theory that the Browns were sitting Quinn because he's due a $5 mil escalator bonus if he takes 70% of the snaps? Now they can play Quinn when he doesn't have a mathmatical possibility of reaching 70%. Seems like he still would have a possibility, though.
Doesn't Mangini realize that he's the only coach that does this so it makes him look like even more of a buffoon than he already is? Other coaches do it with backs and injureds players, but how many do it with their starting QB?
And I wonder if this lays any credence to the theory that the Browns were sitting Quinn because he's due a $5 mil escalator bonus if he takes 70% of the snaps? Now they can play Quinn when he doesn't have a mathmatical possibility of reaching 70%. Seems like he still would have a possibility, though.
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TommyGilmore
Footballguy
Adam Schefter reporting that Quinn will start this week
Maybe starting Quinn on Monday night in order to showcase him to potential trade partners?
Maybe starting Quinn on Monday night in order to showcase him to potential trade partners?
Or permanently ruin his value?
B-Deep
Footballguy
thxwas skimming and missed it
B-Deep
Footballguy
this is what i was looking forthanksThis article says that Quinn gets a $1.32 million bonus at 45% of the snaps, then a $5 million bonus if he hits 70%.It's no longer possible for Quinn to reach 70%, but he could still reach 45%. I guess $1.32 million is small potatoes in today's NFL, but if the team is going to lose no matter who plays QB, then they may as well save some money while they're losing. Plus, there's still time to evaluate Quinn if he plays the final 4-5 games of the season and finishes at 44.9%.I don't know if they were correct or not but I remember the announcers talking about that last game and they said he could start after the bye and not reach 70% of the snaps or whatever it was that he needed...
B-Deep
Footballguy
If my math is correctif he plays all of the snaps, round up he'll be around 60870% of 926 is 648so, this REALLY seems like they held him out just long enough to ensure he cannot hit 70%one game earlier and he may have hit it (if he plays all the rest)
TommyGilmore
Footballguy
The only way he can hit 70% is if the Browns go to a no-huddle offense and run 80 offensive plays per game (which has never happened in the history of the NFL).B-Deep said:
