Mario Williams (1 Viewer)

[RKMoney]

Got his first sack yesterday and just wanted to say congrats to Mario on that. Looks like his projection for the year will be 4 sacks which clearly shows he's worth the #1 overall pick.

Got to love a #1 overall player where in every game you go "Is he playing this series/game? I haven't seen or heard his name called out once".



Major props to the Texans organization for picking up this "stud"/

 

[perry147]

:BEAT_A_DEAD_HORSE:

 

[massraider]

Yep, they need a guy averaging 3.3 yards per carry. Where, oh where can they find such a stud?

BTW, think Mario had 1.5 yesterday. Putting him on pace for 6. A respectable total for a rookie DE.

 

[RKMoney]

Yep, they need a guy averaging 3.3 yards per carry. Where, oh where can they find such a stud?BTW, think Mario had 1.5 yesterday. Putting him on pace for 6. A respectable total for a rookie DE.

If we can play the likes of Miami every week, I agree 100%.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Mario has more sacks than Reggie Bush has TDs

 

[JuniorNB]

Keep in mind that Colston was a sixth round pick. This is not an exact science.

If the argument is that Williams wasn't worth the number one overall pick, that's fine, but keep in mind that if he wasn't, Bush would have been. He's not exactly setting the world on fire, either.

 

[RKMoney]

Mario has more sacks than Tomlinson has TDs

Changed. Guess that means LT < Mario since you base sacks and TDs as a gage of how great a player is going to turn out.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

After four games in their rookie years:

Tackles/Sacks

Julius Peppers - 6/3

Dwight Freeney - 6/2

Mario Williams - 7/1.5

Yep. Four games is a great sample size for such astounding statistical analysis as RKMoney has provided us today.

 

[RKMoney]

Keep in mind that Colston was a sixth round pick. This is not an exact science.If the argument is that Williams wasn't worth the number one overall pick, that's fine, but keep in mind that if he wasn't, Bush would have been. He's not exactly setting the world on fire, either.

Bush has had more of an impact on NO than Mario has with the Texans. Anyone whose watched either team would agree with that statement. I would say having Bush in your lineup makes all other players better since other team must account for him at all times.

 

[RKMoney]

After four games in their rookie years:Tackles/SacksJulius Peppers - 6/3Dwight Freeney - 6/2Mario Williams - 7/1.5Yep. Four games is a great sample size for such astounding statistical analysis as RKMoney has provided us today.

I've seen every Texans game and Mario has had no impact in any of them. Thought he was the next Peppers / can't miss defensive player?

 

[ATC1]

Keep in mind that Colston was a sixth round pick. This is not an exact science.If the argument is that Williams wasn't worth the number one overall pick, that's fine, but keep in mind that if he wasn't, Bush would have been. He's not exactly setting the world on fire, either.

Bush has had more of an impact on NO than Mario has with the Texans. Anyone whose watched either team would agree with that statement. I would say having Bush in your lineup makes all other players better since other team must account for him at all times.

Was about to post the same exact thing.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

After four games in their rookie years:Tackles/SacksJulius Peppers - 6/3Dwight Freeney - 6/2Mario Williams - 7/1.5Yep. Four games is a great sample size for such astounding statistical analysis as RKMoney has provided us today.

I've seen every Texans game and Mario has had no impact in any of them. Thought he was the next Peppers / can't miss defensive player?

I'm just saying maybe we want to wait a bit.You may be right, but I think it's too early to tell.Plus, I too thought it was a mistake for the Texans to take MWill instead of Bush.

 

[Dazz]

I'll sum this up from my perspective:

As a Jaguars fan, I was absolutely terrified of Reggie Bush going to the Texans. The guy was going to create havoc all over the field, drawing a safety out of coverage or God forbid a linebacker, and open up the entire offensive gameplan. The amount of improvement that team would've had with Bush in the backfield would've been remarkable because at all times, he must be accounted for on the field. You can already see the makings of this with the Saints, whether it be a reverse where the entire defense is over-pursuing Reggie or the seams in coverage’s his presence makes. His stats are not truly indicative of what he's done for that team, and his worth goes far beyond 3 YPC. In fact the only rookie HB to even approach what he means to the Saints right now is Maroney, and he doesn't even begin to attract the defensive attention Bush does on a regular basis.

Mario Williams, in short, does none of that. The fact is that as a fan of an opposing team in the division, I was ecstatic when they signed him and I've seen nothing to change that. At his best, at his peak, at his apex, he is a player that can be managed out of a game. Reggie Bush already defies that in the fourth week of his career.

 

[DerangedGridironGeek]

Keep in mind that Colston was a sixth round pick. This is not an exact science.If the argument is that Williams wasn't worth the number one overall pick, that's fine, but keep in mind that if he wasn't, Bush would have been. He's not exactly setting the world on fire, either.

Bush has had more of an impact on NO than Mario has with the Texans. Anyone whose watched either team would agree with that statement. I would say having Bush in your lineup makes all other players better since other team must account for him at all times.

Carr and AJ are having a good season. Throwing Bush into that mix would have been interesting to watch. Shoot.....had Davis remained healthy....this offense would have been very interesting,

 

[RKMoney]

After four games in their rookie years:Tackles/SacksJulius Peppers - 6/3Dwight Freeney - 6/2Mario Williams - 7/1.5Yep. Four games is a great sample size for such astounding statistical analysis as RKMoney has provided us today.

I've seen every Texans game and Mario has had no impact in any of them. Thought he was the next Peppers / can't miss defensive player?

I'm just saying maybe we want to wait a bit.You may be right, but I think it's too early to tell.Plus, I too thought it was a mistake for the Texans to take MWill instead of Bush.

I could definitely be wrong but I saw Mario in college and while he looked great at times, there were just as many times where he was completely absent in the game. Plus, he played on a team with two other 1st round defensive players which helped and their team was a .500 ball club. He didn't come close to Peppers dominace in college but somehow got overhyped and lumped into the same class as him.

 

[Two Deep]

Mario has more sacks than Reggie Bush has TDs

 

[JuniorNB]

Keep in mind that Colston was a sixth round pick. This is not an exact science.

If the argument is that Williams wasn't worth the number one overall pick, that's fine, but keep in mind that if he wasn't, Bush would have been. He's not exactly setting the world on fire, either.

Bush has had more of an impact on NO than Mario has with the Texans. Anyone whose watched either team would agree with that statement. I would say having Bush in your lineup makes all other players better since other team must account for him at all times.

Carr and AJ are having a good season. Throwing Bush into that mix would have been interesting to watch. Shoot.....had Davis remained healthy....this offense would have been very interesting,

That's the key part of the statement. Davis caught the ball just as well as Bush does, plus, he was a good runner, too- something that Bush is doing terribly, so far.As soon as Davis went (or stayed) out, it automatically made Houston's choice destined to look stupid.

The reason they passed on Bush was that they had a similar player already in place. The Texans had a ton of weaknesses, but Dominick Davis was not one of them. My only criticism is that they didn't trade the pick. The potential of drafting Bush would have made some team overspend big-time for that pick.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Mario has more sacks than Reggie Bush has TDs

And I have just as many TD's as Bush. So what does that mean?

 

[Wadsworth]

I don't think anyone who followed Mario's career at NC State is surprised, this is pretty much what he did in college. Do next to nothing most of the time and then put up big numbers against bad teams. As long as he's playing Duke or the Dolphins he does great.

 

[RKMoney]

Keep in mind that Colston was a sixth round pick. This is not an exact science.If the argument is that Williams wasn't worth the number one overall pick, that's fine, but keep in mind that if he wasn't, Bush would have been. He's not exactly setting the world on fire, either.

Bush has had more of an impact on NO than Mario has with the Texans. Anyone whose watched either team would agree with that statement. I would say having Bush in your lineup makes all other players better since other team must account for him at all times.

Carr and AJ are having a good season. Throwing Bush into that mix would have been interesting to watch. Shoot.....had Davis remained healthy....this offense would have been very interesting,

That can be another thread in itself, Davis health or lack of. A player who was drafted out of college late because his history of injuries. A HUGE question mark this last offseason and he walked with a limp but the Texans still felt as if they didn't need a RB and that he would come back 100%? I don't see how that decision could come from an ounce of logic.I can't give the Texans front office a pass when they imply that there was no seeing this in Davis (out for entire year,possibly career is over) when they could have drafted Bush. Why didn't NO simply pass up Bush? They had Deuce who had fewer injury question marks as Davis did!So, to recap, it was perfectly logical for the Texans to pass on Bush but made total sense that NO drafted him?! Don't buy it.Have fun running Ron Dayne and keep bragging about Mario as the next LT while teams have to game plan against Bush while players like Colston light up the league as a result.

 

[RKMoney]

Mario has more sacks than Reggie Bush has TDs

And I have just as many TD's as Bush. So what does that mean?

Absolutely NOTHING.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Mario has more sacks than Reggie Bush has TDs

And I have just as many TD's as Bush. So what does that mean?

Absolutely NOTHING.

Bingo.

 

[Keys Myaths]

Mario has more sacks than Reggie Bush has TDs

And I have just as many TD's as Bush. So what does that mean?

Absolutely NOTHING.

Just like this thread.In the end, you might be right, but four games isn't enough to establish a whole career off of.Quit your trolling.

 

[RKMoney]

Keep in mind that Colston was a sixth round pick. This is not an exact science.

If the argument is that Williams wasn't worth the number one overall pick, that's fine, but keep in mind that if he wasn't, Bush would have been. He's not exactly setting the world on fire, either.

Bush has had more of an impact on NO than Mario has with the Texans. Anyone whose watched either team would agree with that statement. I would say having Bush in your lineup makes all other players better since other team must account for him at all times.

Carr and AJ are having a good season. Throwing Bush into that mix would have been interesting to watch. Shoot.....had Davis remained healthy....this offense would have been very interesting,

That's the key part of the statement. Davis caught the ball just as well as Bush does, plus, he was a good runner, too- something that Bush is doing terribly, so far.As soon as Davis went (or stayed) out, it automatically made Houston's choice destined to look stupid.

The reason they passed on Bush was that they had a similar player already in place. The Texans had a ton of weaknesses, but Dominick Davis was not one of them. My only criticism is that they didn't trade the pick. The potential of drafting Bush would have made some team overspend big-time for that pick.

Sorry, but that response sounds like it's from someone who works for the Texans. Do you honestly think that nobody in that office had NO clue as to DD's health in the offseason? If you really believe that they thought Davis was going to be fine or had no way of knowing then you've really bought their lie hook, line and sinker.So, I guess NO knew Deuce was going to be ok but still drafted Bush meanwhile, the Texans were so clueless about Davis' health they felt like it was more likely that he would be perfectly fine, screw his inujury history, than hurt so the logical next step was to get a defensive player who was absent about 50% during his college games?

 

[RKMoney]

Mario has more sacks than Reggie Bush has TDs

And I have just as many TD's as Bush. So what does that mean?

Absolutely NOTHING.

Just like this thread.In the end, you might be right, but four games isn't enough to establish a whole career off of.Quit your trolling.

Says the troller who adds absolutely nothing to the thread.

 

[Two Deep]

Mario has more sacks than Reggie Bush has TDs

And I have just as many TD's as Bush. So what does that mean?

It means Bush aka "The Christ of the NFL" has had 4 games to score a TD and he still doesnt have anymore than the guy sitting on his couch watching him.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Mario has more sacks than Reggie Bush has TDs

And I have just as many TD's as Bush. So what does that mean?

It means Bush aka "The Christ of the NFL" has had 4 games to score a TD and he still doesnt have anymore than the guy sitting on his couch watching him.

Except for the fact that his team is 3-1, in large part due to him, and I'm not even on a team.

 

[Kirby]

Mario has more sacks than Tomlinson has TDs

Changed. Guess that means LT < Mario since you base sacks and TDs as a gage of how great a player is going to turn out.

 

[RKMoney]

Mario has more sacks than Reggie Bush has TDs

And I have just as many TD's as Bush. So what does that mean?

It means Bush aka "The Christ of the NFL" has had 4 games to score a TD and he still doesnt have anymore than the guy sitting on his couch watching him.

Score a TD is a TOTAL crapshoot in the NFL. See LT as a prime example or LJ until yesterday as another.What isn't a crapshoot is yards accumulation, and as for Bush, he is on his way towards a 1500 total yards accumulation if you project out his current ttl yards over the course of the season. I think getting a back who can return kicks/be used a receiver and runner who can get you 1500 yards his first year out is a pretty damn solid #1 overall pick.

 

[RKMoney]

Mario has more sacks than Tomlinson has TDs

Changed. Guess that means LT < Mario since you base sacks and TDs as a gage of how great a player is going to turn out.

He implied that Williams was better than Bush because Williams has more sacks than Bush has TDs. If that's how he ranks players (by sacks to tds) then he must also have Williams ranked higher than LT.

 

[Giants2003]

I thought this guy was banned, why is he back? Can someone ban him permanently?

 

[RKMoney]

Mario has more sacks than Reggie Bush has TDs

And I have just as many TD's as Bush. So what does that mean?

It means Bush aka "The Christ of the NFL" has had 4 games to score a TD and he still doesnt have anymore than the guy sitting on his couch watching him.

Except for the fact that his team is 3-1, in large part due to him, and I'm not even on a team.

Let's not throw out the fact that Bush has been a significant part as to why NO is winning now bit. Let's stick with him having zero TDs!

 

[icehouse]

I'll sum this up from my perspective:

As a Jaguars fan, I was absolutely terrified of Reggie Bush going to the Texans. The guy was going to create havoc all over the field, drawing a safety out of coverage or God forbid a linebacker, and open up the entire offensive gameplan. The amount of improvement that team would've had with Bush in the backfield would've been remarkable because at all times, he must be accounted for on the field. You can already see the makings of this with the Saints, whether it be a reverse where the entire defense is over-pursuing Reggie or the seams in coverage’s his presence makes. His stats are not truly indicative of what he's done for that team, and his worth goes far beyond 3 YPC. In fact the only rookie HB to even approach what he means to the Saints right now is Maroney, and he doesn't even begin to attract the defensive attention Bush does on a regular basis.

Mario Williams, in short, does none of that. The fact is that as a fan of an opposing team in the division, I was ecstatic when they signed him and I've seen nothing to change that. At his best, at his peak, at his apex, he is a player that can be managed out of a game. Reggie Bush already defies that in the fourth week of his career.

The Bush apoligists kill me. So far he hasn't lived up to his lofty draft expectations, AND IT'S OK TO ADMIT THAT. Bush's best contribution so far has been as a decoy, and a receiver that you can line up at different spots. A glorified decoy isn't worth the #1 spot in the draft either, and certainly isn't worth $50M. A glorified decoy isn't the next Sayers, Barry, next great back, etc. Why is it so hard for y'all to admit that Bush's impact as a RB (see the impact Maroney is having for example, and he is also splitting carries) hasn't been all that great? A RB's main job is to run the ball. Yes, Bush must be accounted for no matter where he lines up on the field....but so does Dante Hall and Micheal Pittman. That advantage (ability to put a RB out wide) isn't more important than me being able to give my RB the ball and have him do a RB's main job....RUN THE DAMN BALL. So far Bush is not stellar at that. The Saints offense is much improved because Bush is there (he has contributed), they have a new stud QB, a new quality receiver (and Horn is not having hammy issues) and Deuce is back (ya know, the RB that is actually doing a RB's job). If Deuce wasn't there moving the chains the passing game would go to hell because Bush hasn't shown the ability to be effective running.In Houston, Bush would have been counted on to run the ball and be an every down back. Running the ball is the area that he is contributing to least...yet we blew it by not picking him?

With all that being said, Mario Williams sucked in his first 3 games. He made an impact this Sunday (1.5 sacks and a game winning tipped pass). So far he hasn't lived up to #1 billing and Bush hasn't lived up to #2. No regrets on Bush from this Houston fella. Maroney is a different story though.

 

[Kirby]

Mario has more sacks than Tomlinson has TDs

Changed. Guess that means LT < Mario since you base sacks and TDs as a gage of how great a player is going to turn out.

He implied that Williams was better than Bush because Williams has more sacks than Bush has TDs. If that's how he ranks players (by sacks to tds) then he must also have Williams ranked higher than LT.

But Tomlinson has 3.. that's where I'm confused.

 

[RKMoney]

I thought this guy was banned, why is he back? Can someone ban him permanently?

Why would I be banned or better yet why do you care?

 

[Ditka is God]

Keep in mind that Colston was a sixth round pick. This is not an exact science.

If the argument is that Williams wasn't worth the number one overall pick, that's fine, but keep in mind that if he wasn't, Bush would have been. He's not exactly setting the world on fire, either.

Actually, he was the fourth to last player picked in the 7th round. Link......

 

[Two Deep]

Mario has more sacks than Reggie Bush has TDs

And I have just as many TD's as Bush. So what does that mean?

It means Bush aka "The Christ of the NFL" has had 4 games to score a TD and he still doesnt have anymore than the guy sitting on his couch watching him.

Except for the fact that his team is 3-1, in large part due to him, and I'm not even on a team.

They may be 4-0 if you were out there.

 

[RKMoney]

Mario has more sacks than Tomlinson has TDs

Changed. Guess that means LT < Mario since you base sacks and TDs as a gage of how great a player is going to turn out.

He implied that Williams was better than Bush because Williams has more sacks than Bush has TDs. If that's how he ranks players (by sacks to tds) then he must also have Williams ranked higher than LT.

But Tomlinson has 3.. that's where I'm confused.

Can I change it to Tiki then? Think you get the gist of it, right? Saying Mario having more sacks than bush has tds isn't a sound statement.

 

[icehouse]

Mario has more sacks than Reggie Bush has TDs

And I have just as many TD's as Bush. So what does that mean?

It means Bush aka "The Christ of the NFL" has had 4 games to score a TD and he still doesnt have anymore than the guy sitting on his couch watching him.

Except for the fact that his team is 3-1, in large part due to him, and I'm not even on a team.

In large part due to the new QB, new WR, new coach, and old RB coming back and giving the offense a running game (since the new rookie isn't doing that).Bush has contributed to the Saints offense, but let's not act like the extreme turnaround is all on him. I can fully admit Mario contributed nothing for his first 3 games...but folks try to give Bush way to much credit.

 

[RKMoney]

I'll sum this up from my perspective:

As a Jaguars fan, I was absolutely terrified of Reggie Bush going to the Texans. The guy was going to create havoc all over the field, drawing a safety out of coverage or God forbid a linebacker, and open up the entire offensive gameplan. The amount of improvement that team would've had with Bush in the backfield would've been remarkable because at all times, he must be accounted for on the field. You can already see the makings of this with the Saints, whether it be a reverse where the entire defense is over-pursuing Reggie or the seams in coverage’s his presence makes. His stats are not truly indicative of what he's done for that team, and his worth goes far beyond 3 YPC. In fact the only rookie HB to even approach what he means to the Saints right now is Maroney, and he doesn't even begin to attract the defensive attention Bush does on a regular basis.

Mario Williams, in short, does none of that. The fact is that as a fan of an opposing team in the division, I was ecstatic when they signed him and I've seen nothing to change that. At his best, at his peak, at his apex, he is a player that can be managed out of a game. Reggie Bush already defies that in the fourth week of his career.

The Bush apoligists kill me. So far he hasn't lived up to his lofty draft expectations, AND IT'S OK TO ADMIT THAT. Bush's best contribution so far has been as a decoy, and a receiver that you can line up at different spots. A glorified decoy isn't worth the #1 spot in the draft either, and certainly isn't worth $50M. A glorified decoy isn't the next Sayers, Barry, next great back, etc. Why is it so hard for y'all to admit that Bush's impact as a RB (see the impact Maroney is having for example, and he is also splitting carries) hasn't been all that great? A RB's main job is to run the ball. Yes, Bush must be accounted for no matter where he lines up on the field....but so does Dante Hall and Micheal Pittman. That advantage (ability to put a RB out wide) isn't more important than me being able to give my RB the ball and have him do a RB's main job....RUN THE DAMN BALL. So far Bush is not stellar at that. The Saints offense is much improved because Bush is there (he has contributed), they have a new stud QB, a new quality receiver (and Horn is not having hammy issues) and Deuce is back (ya know, the RB that is actually doing a RB's job). If Deuce wasn't there moving the chains the passing game would go to hell because Bush hasn't shown the ability to be effective running.In Houston, Bush would have been counted on to run the ball and be an every down back. Running the ball is the area that he is contributing to least...yet we blew it by not picking him?

With all that being said, Mario Williams sucked in his first 3 games. He made an impact this Sunday (1.5 sacks and a game winning tipped pass). So far he hasn't lived up to #1 billing and Bush hasn't lived up to #2. No regrets on Bush from this Houston fella. Maroney is a different story though.

Bush is projected out to 1500 total yards which will be greater than ALL Texans RB this year. Call that not living up to his hype?Mario can't play the likes of Miami every week but at least he is consistant from his college days, play against piss poor teams and he shows up, play against better ones then he is a zero.

Did you see that nice run around TD from Betts two weeks ago ONLY because Mario was MAN HANDLED one-on-one? Guess you missed that.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Mario has more sacks than Reggie Bush has TDs

And I have just as many TD's as Bush. So what does that mean?

It means Bush aka "The Christ of the NFL" has had 4 games to score a TD and he still doesnt have anymore than the guy sitting on his couch watching him.

Except for the fact that his team is 3-1, in large part due to him, and I'm not even on a team.

They may be 4-0 if you were out there.

I guarantee it. Nobody'd give me a chance though.

 

[Two Deep]

Mario has more sacks than Reggie Bush has TDs

And I have just as many TD's as Bush. So what does that mean?

It means Bush aka "The Christ of the NFL" has had 4 games to score a TD and he still doesnt have anymore than the guy sitting on his couch watching him.

Except for the fact that his team is 3-1, in large part due to him, and I'm not even on a team.

In large part due to the new QB, new WR, new coach, and old RB coming back and giving the offense a running game (since the new rookie isn't doing that).Bush has contributed to the Saints offense, but let's not act like the extreme turnaround is all on him. I can fully admit Mario contributed nothing for his first 3 games...but folks try to give Bush way to much credit.

Very nicely said.

 

[Slinger]

It's generally agreed by Coaches that DE, OT and QB are the most important positions NFL. Houston has/had many many problems to address. Hopefully with the pick of Williams, they've taken care of one of those positions. That's remained to be seen, but you can't judge a DE strictly by his sack, and even his tackle total.

 

[icehouse]

Mario has more sacks than Reggie Bush has TDs

And I have just as many TD's as Bush. So what does that mean?

It means Bush aka "The Christ of the NFL" has had 4 games to score a TD and he still doesnt have anymore than the guy sitting on his couch watching him.

Score a TD is a TOTAL crapshoot in the NFL. See LT as a prime example or LJ until yesterday as another.What isn't a crapshoot is yards accumulation, and as for Bush, he is on his way towards a 1500 total yards accumulation if you project out his current ttl yards over the course of the season. I think getting a back who can return kicks/be used a receiver and runner who can get you 1500 yards his first year out is a pretty damn solid #1 overall pick.

I don't, not if he doesn't excel at the main thing a RB is supposed to do...run the ball.The total yards argument kills me as well. It would have more merit if Bush's average yards per catch or per return were above average...to make up for him not excelling at running the ball....but the numbers aren't.

 

[RKMoney]

Mario has more sacks than Reggie Bush has TDs

And I have just as many TD's as Bush. So what does that mean?

It means Bush aka "The Christ of the NFL" has had 4 games to score a TD and he still doesnt have anymore than the guy sitting on his couch watching him.

Except for the fact that his team is 3-1, in large part due to him, and I'm not even on a team.

They may be 4-0 if you were out there.

I guarantee it. Nobody'd give me a chance though.

I bet if you contacted someone who makes those kinds of decisions with the Texans you may just get a shot...wouldn't surprise me given their lack of drafting talent!

 

[The Gator]

Bush isn't even the best rookie on his own team!

IHeartColston.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

In large part due to the new QB, new WR, new coach, and old RB coming back and giving the offense a running game (since the new rookie isn't doing that).Bush has contributed to the Saints offense, but let's not act like the extreme turnaround is all on him. I can fully admit Mario contributed nothing for his first 3 games...but folks try to give Bush way to much credit.

The new QB, new WR, and old RB wouldn't be having the success they are without Reggie B. Deuce looks slow to me, but is getting yards because the lanes are so big. Colston is good, but is getting a lot of 1-1 coverage. He should excel in that role due to his size.Brees...well I'm just a fan of Brees anyway, so yes, he does help a bit.

 

[JuniorNB]

Saying that the Brees, McAllister, Colston, ect. are doing well because of Bush'd presence is like saying that every tackle the other Texans make is because teams stay away from Williams.

It's sad when Bush supporters don't have stats to back their claims so they have to use the old "decoy or disruption-to-the-defense" claim.

Fact is, neither has lived up to their billing and both will get better.

 

[perry147]

It's generally agreed by Coaches that DE, OT and QB are the most important positions NFL. Houston has/had many many problems to address. Hopefully with the pick of Williams, they've taken care of one of those positions. That's remained to be seen, but you can't judge a DE strictly by his sack, and even his tackle total.

Even if the Texans belived that MW was worth the top pick they should have traded down for more picks and still could have gotten him.The Texans not taking Bush was about MONEY and nothing else - not about putting a better product on the field, addressing a postion of need or anything else - JUST MONEY.

 

[Dazz]

I'm not saying that he's as great as he will be in the future now, or that he's lighting the league on fire right now. I just feel much, much better about the Texans having Williams instead of Bush, purely as an outside observer with interets within the division. As a Jaguars fan, I want absolutely nothing to do with Reggie Bush or the problems he makes on the field, whether it be at HB running the ball, releasing from the backfield, or lining up at WR. To be honest I think his career is going to even out at or around the talent of Brian Westbrook, possibly with more durability. That would be a damn good career path to have for a HB.

And yes, the upgrade the Saints have had at QB with Brees and bringing in Colston, along with a healthy Deuce on the field is significant. Each and every one of those, actually, is significant, and so was drafting Reggie Bush. All those things have worked in tandem to make an offensive unit I think most people slept on.