Marion Barber (1 Viewer)

[eefflrat]

i don't watch enough of the Cowboys to get a feeling for Barber. His numbers overall don't look too bad last year with 900+ yards and a 4.3 YPC and a missed game. I know that felix jones looks to be the starter going forward, so where does that leave barber? Is he the backup to Jones, or is he going to get traded?

just seems to me that his numbers aren't bad and he is relatively young and the wear and tear can't be that bad for a guy who has touched the ball about 1000 times in 5 years.

i will say that I recently got barber as a "throw in" in a dynasty trade and didn't think much about it until I saw his stats from last year and realised he actually put up decent numbers, but was a bust for his ADP.

 

[Bankerguy]

i don't watch enough of the Cowboys to get a feeling for Barber. His numbers overall don't look too bad last year with 900+ yards and a 4.3 YPC and a missed game. I know that felix jones looks to be the starter going forward, so where does that leave barber? Is he the backup to Jones, or is he going to get traded?just seems to me that his numbers aren't bad and he is relatively young and the wear and tear can't be that bad for a guy who has touched the ball about 1000 times in 5 years. i will say that I recently got barber as a "throw in" in a dynasty trade and didn't think much about it until I saw his stats from last year and realised he actually put up decent numbers, but was a bust for his ADP.

I'm really not sure who would trade for him. I think he stays in Dallas one more year. Oh and hello RBBC, he will not be an every down back.

 

[Todem]

i don't watch enough of the Cowboys to get a feeling for Barber. His numbers overall don't look too bad last year with 900+ yards and a 4.3 YPC and a missed game. I know that felix jones looks to be the starter going forward, so where does that leave barber? Is he the backup to Jones, or is he going to get traded?

just seems to me that his numbers aren't bad and he is relatively young and the wear and tear can't be that bad for a guy who has touched the ball about 1000 times in 5 years.

i will say that I recently got barber as a "throw in" in a dynasty trade and didn't think much about it until I saw his stats from last year and realised he actually put up decent numbers, but was a bust for his ADP.

I'm really not sure who would trade for him. I think he stays in Dallas one more year. Oh and hello RBBC, he will not be an every down back.

Had his best FF and pro season as part of an RBBC...that is a good thing IMO for Barber owners.

 

[Da Guru]

Not sure Barber ever was a feature back. MBIII seems better suited to be a comittee back.

 

[Balco]

I think Barber is an excellent part time back, just not a full time player. Cowboys would be better off with Choice/Jones as the two headed monster, but no team will trade for Barber's contract.

 

[fsufan]

I think Barber is an excellent part time back, just not a full time player. Cowboys would be better off with Choice/Jones as the two headed monster, but no team will trade for Barber's contract.

I think Choice is the better all around RB of the 3

 

[Ron_Mexico]

I think Barber is an excellent part time back, just not a full time player. Cowboys would be better off with Choice/Jones as the two headed monster, but no team will trade for Barber's contract.

I think Choice is the better all around RB of the 3

concur

 

[finito]

I think Barber is an excellent part time back, just not a full time player. Cowboys would be better off with Choice/Jones as the two headed monster, but no team will trade for Barber's contract.

I think Choice is the better all around RB of the 3

concur

I like Choice alot, but I *really* like what Felix can do.

 

[TS Garp]

I think Barber is an excellent part time back, just not a full time player. Cowboys would be better off with Choice/Jones as the two headed monster, but no team will trade for Barber's contract.

I think Choice is the better all around RB of the 3

concur

I like Choice alot, but I *really* like what Felix can do.

Agree, which is why the Cowboys will keep working in all three of them. It'll frustrate owners, but they'd be crazy not to.

 

[mjd2]

i tink all of you are giving credit to the wrong area its the line not the running backs

 

[Ultima Thule]

Why does everyone think that Jones is the lead back going forward? Even if he is I just don't see how he is someone I should go after. He got 116 carries last year and even if he is the lead back they are such a RBBC team. Someone help me to understand.

 

[fsufan]

Why does everyone think that Jones is the lead back going forward? Even if he is I just don't see how he is someone I should go after. He got 116 carries last year and even if he is the lead back they are such a RBBC team. Someone help me to understand.

the answer you are looking forhttp://www.nfltouchdown.com/wp-content/upl...jerry-jones.jpg

 

[rock753]

Not sure Barber ever was a feature back. MBIII seems better suited to be a comittee back.

Agree with this, he breaks down when he carries every down; like someone said, it helps us MBIII owners that he just runs in the 2nd half and on the goal line.

 

[Da Guru]

Not sure Barber ever was a feature back. MBIII seems better suited to be a comittee back.

Agree with this, he breaks down when he carries every down; like someone said, it helps us MBIII owners that he just runs in the 2nd half and on the goal line.

I agree, Barbers running style is more effective in the 10-15 range. The way he runs it appears he gets more banged up with 25 carries.

 

[Tanner9919]

Dallas is a team that will have 3 RBs with 145 carries each..they haven't rushed more than 436 times in any of the past three seasons..

this is the biggest RBBC in the NFL at this time..

Jones can't stay healthy, neither can Barber, can't get all warm-n-fuzzy about either one ...

Jones is to Rb's what Lee Evans is to WR's: a consummate tease..

 

[switz]

Why does everyone think that Jones is the lead back going forward? Even if he is I just don't see how he is someone I should go after. He got 116 carries last year and even if he is the lead back they are such a RBBC team. Someone help me to understand.

Because of those 116 carries, almost half came in the last 4 games. If that is an indication of what will go on next season, then it's reasonable to conclude he'll be the primary RB. He also averaged 15 carries per game in the payoffs. Notably, some of his highest YPC games are also his highest number of attempt games. So it looks like he can handle 12-15 carries, and still average over 5 YPC.No one knows for sure, it's just reading trends and making educated guesses.

 

[switz]

Dallas is a team that will have 3 RBs with 145 carries each..they haven't rushed more than 436 times in any of the past three seasons..

this is the biggest RBBC in the NFL at this time..

Jones can't stay healthy, neither can Barber, can't get all warm-n-fuzzy about either one ...

Jones is to Rb's what Lee Evans is to WR's: a consummate tease..

I'm pretty sure it's way too early to make absolute statements like that.

 

[phthalatemagic]

Dallas is a team that will have 3 RBs with 145 carries each..they haven't rushed more than 436 times in any of the past three seasons..

this is the biggest RBBC in the NFL at this time..

Jones can't stay healthy, neither can Barber, can't get all warm-n-fuzzy about either one ...

Jones is to Rb's what Lee Evans is to WR's: a consummate tease..

I'm pretty sure it's way too early to make absolute statements like that.

He's jut basing it on the last 32 game trend.

 

[switz]

Dallas is a team that will have 3 RBs with 145 carries each..they haven't rushed more than 436 times in any of the past three seasons..

this is the biggest RBBC in the NFL at this time..

Jones can't stay healthy, neither can Barber, can't get all warm-n-fuzzy about either one ...

Jones is to Rb's what Lee Evans is to WR's: a consummate tease..

I'm pretty sure it's way too early to make absolute statements like that.

He's jut basing it on the last 32 game trend.

I didn't realize he'd missed 32 games in a row Or that he missed MORE games this year than last

 

[phthalatemagic]

Dallas is a team that will have 3 RBs with 145 carries each..they haven't rushed more than 436 times in any of the past three seasons..

this is the biggest RBBC in the NFL at this time..

Jones can't stay healthy, neither can Barber, can't get all warm-n-fuzzy about either one ...

Jones is to Rb's what Lee Evans is to WR's: a consummate tease..

I'm pretty sure it's way too early to make absolute statements like that.

He's jut basing it on the last 32 game trend.

I didn't realize he'd missed 32 games in a row Or that he missed MORE games this year than last

He didn't. And he didn't It's still a trend Actually it's the last 26 games, he's missed 12 games. That's not a good trend. Maybe you only like the trends that make Jones look good?

 

[rock753]

 

[switz]

Dallas is a team that will have 3 RBs with 145 carries each..they haven't rushed more than 436 times in any of the past three seasons..

this is the biggest RBBC in the NFL at this time..

Jones can't stay healthy, neither can Barber, can't get all warm-n-fuzzy about either one ...

Jones is to Rb's what Lee Evans is to WR's: a consummate tease..

I'm pretty sure it's way too early to make absolute statements like that.

He's jut basing it on the last 32 game trend.

I didn't realize he'd missed 32 games in a row Or that he missed MORE games this year than last

He didn't. And he didn't It's still a trend Actually it's the last 26 games, he's missed 12 games. That's not a good trend. Maybe you only like the trends that make Jones look good?

Actually the trend is that he missed 10 games due to 2 injuries in '08, and 2 games due to 1 injury in '09 - that means he is trending to miss FEWER games per season, and have FEWER injuries per season. That's what the trend is...

 

[phthalatemagic]

Actually the trend is that he missed 10 games due to 2 injuries in '08, and 2 games due to 1 injury in '09 - that means he is trending to miss FEWER games per season, and have FEWER injuries per season. That's what the trend is...

Not over the past 26 games.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Love the

 

[switz]

Actually the trend is that he missed 10 games due to 2 injuries in '08, and 2 games due to 1 injury in '09 - that means he is trending to miss FEWER games per season, and have FEWER injuries per season. That's what the trend is...

Not over the past 26 games.

Actually if you want to only look at the past 26 games, he missed 0 games in the most recent 13, and 10 of the previous 13... so again the trend is that he's less injury prone than he was, is you insist on using the injury prone label.

Now that's counting the playoffs, if you want to include the preseason as well, your argument looks even worse.

 

[phthalatemagic]

Actually the trend is that he missed 10 games due to 2 injuries in '08, and 2 games due to 1 injury in '09 - that means he is trending to miss FEWER games per season, and have FEWER injuries per season. That's what the trend is...

Not over the past 26 games.

Actually if you want to only look at the past 26 games, he missed 0 games in the most recent 13, and 10 of the previous 13... so again the trend is that he's less injury prone than he was, is you insist on using the injury prone label.

Now that's counting the playoffs, if you want to include the preseason as well, your argument looks even worse.

a) You really want to invoke preseason statistics? b) You aren't picking up what I'm putting down here. I think other people are, but not you. You first get sensitive about someone rightfully calling Jones injury prone or unable to not handle a feature load, then torture statistics to support your opinion. I used the same statistics, also in a tortured sense to say the opposite thing. Why don't you take a step back and admit that Jones DOES have an injury history, and it's UNKNOWN that he can handle a feature load or not? You know.. like all the other sensible humans on this board. That is unless this was all a silly rhetoric exercise. I don't think it was. I think you are just too big of a fan of Jones to see the forest, instead of a bunch trees.

Or we can just go back to the last TWENTY SIX game trend, where he failed to suit up for nearly 50% of those games. Not very rugged back, that Jones kid.

 

[switz]

Actually the trend is that he missed 10 games due to 2 injuries in '08, and 2 games due to 1 injury in '09 - that means he is trending to miss FEWER games per season, and have FEWER injuries per season. That's what the trend is...

Not over the past 26 games.

Actually if you want to only look at the past 26 games, he missed 0 games in the most recent 13, and 10 of the previous 13... so again the trend is that he's less injury prone than he was, is you insist on using the injury prone label.

Now that's counting the playoffs, if you want to include the preseason as well, your argument looks even worse.

a) You really want to invoke preseason statistics? b) You aren't picking up what I'm putting down here. I think other people are, but not you. You first get sensitive about someone rightfully calling Jones injury prone or unable to not handle a feature load, then torture statistics to support your opinion. I used the same statistics, also in a tortured sense to say the opposite thing. Why don't you take a step back and admit that Jones DOES have an injury history, and it's UNKNOWN that he can handle a feature load or not? You know.. like all the other sensible humans on this board. That is unless this was all a silly rhetoric exercise. I don't think it was. I think you are just too big of a fan of Jones to see the forest, instead of a bunch trees.

Or we can just go back to the last TWENTY SIX game trend, where he failed to suit up for nearly 50% of those games. Not very rugged back, that Jones kid.

You're the one not seeing the forest for the trees here. I've agreed that Jones has had injuries in his history, I've disagreed that they are as big a deal as some (like you) want to make them out to be.As for the past 26 games, you're still missing the point... were the 50% he missed the more recent, or more past games? Exactly...

I'll take more recent performances as an indication of future prospects over a argument that depends on data from two seasons ago...

 

[phthalatemagic]

You're the one not seeing the forest for the trees here. I've agreed that Jones has had injuries in his history, I've disagreed that they are as big a deal as some (like you) want to make them out to be.As for the past 26 games, you're still missing the point... were the 50% he missed the more recent, or more past games? Exactly...I'll take more recent performances as an indication of future prospects over a argument that depends on data from two seasons ago...

Ohh no. I get your point. It just sucks. I never made a big deal out of his injury history. I'm making a big deal out of your argument style and homerism. Just be objective please. If you want to take more recent performances as an indication of future prospects, then I guess we can expect Jones to run for exactly 91 yards/game. We can extrapolate that out to a 10 year career and he will finish with 14560 yards. He will also score exactly one touchdown per game for the rest of his career as well. Nice career. This is the type of garbage that you are doing here. Cherry picking a particular season because it suits you doesn't help anyone. What he did (or didn't do) in 2008 is GERMANE to the discussion, despite your desire to dismiss it. He has injuries. Deal with it.

 

[switz]

You're the one not seeing the forest for the trees here. I've agreed that Jones has had injuries in his history, I've disagreed that they are as big a deal as some (like you) want to make them out to be.As for the past 26 games, you're still missing the point... were the 50% he missed the more recent, or more past games? Exactly...I'll take more recent performances as an indication of future prospects over a argument that depends on data from two seasons ago...

Ohh no. I get your point. It just sucks. I never made a big deal out of his injury history. I'm making a big deal out of your argument style and homerism. Just be objective please. If you want to take more recent performances as an indication of future prospects, then I guess we can expect Jones to run for exactly 91 yards/game. We can extrapolate that out to a 10 year career and he will finish with 14560 yards. He will also score exactly one touchdown per game for the rest of his career as well. Nice career. This is the type of garbage that you are doing here. Cherry picking a particular season because it suits you doesn't help anyone. What he did (or didn't do) in 2008 is GERMANE to the discussion, despite your desire to dismiss it. He has injuries. Deal with it.

What do you think of Ray Rice's prospects moving forward? Since 2008 is so GERMANE to all discussions, I'm guessing you have him slotted around 40 on your RB list. Or is 2008 ONLY germane when it fits your argument?

 

[phthalatemagic]

You're the one not seeing the forest for the trees here. I've agreed that Jones has had injuries in his history, I've disagreed that they are as big a deal as some (like you) want to make them out to be.As for the past 26 games, you're still missing the point... were the 50% he missed the more recent, or more past games? Exactly...I'll take more recent performances as an indication of future prospects over a argument that depends on data from two seasons ago...

Ohh no. I get your point. It just sucks. I never made a big deal out of his injury history. I'm making a big deal out of your argument style and homerism. Just be objective please. If you want to take more recent performances as an indication of future prospects, then I guess we can expect Jones to run for exactly 91 yards/game. We can extrapolate that out to a 10 year career and he will finish with 14560 yards. He will also score exactly one touchdown per game for the rest of his career as well. Nice career. This is the type of garbage that you are doing here. Cherry picking a particular season because it suits you doesn't help anyone. What he did (or didn't do) in 2008 is GERMANE to the discussion, despite your desire to dismiss it. He has injuries. Deal with it.

What do you think of Ray Rice's prospects moving forward? Since 2008 is so GERMANE to all discussions, I'm guessing you have him slotted around 40 on your RB list. Or is 2008 ONLY germane when it fits your argument?

I don't really have much of an opinion of Ray Rice, except he's so overvalued right now that it doesn't matter what I think of him. My leagues Ray Rice owners won't deal him no matter what I put in front of their faces.

 

[phthalatemagic]

Just want to add switz, that you could be right about Jones. But you just never showed me why (at least why that made sense). You being right, however doesn't necessarily give you license to just dismiss facts that he does have injury issues.

 

[switz]

Just want to add switz, that you could be right about Jones. But you just never showed me why (at least why that made sense). You being right, however doesn't necessarily give you license to just dismiss facts that he does have injury issues.

I've never dismissed that he's been injured, just the weight people put into those injuries in projecting his future prospects. It's not an all or nothing, black and white matter. Many players who have had injuries in the past go on to have great careers. Felix has played almost a whole season worth of games (13) without getting injured in his most recent past. And in those games he's had the most average carries per game in his NFL career.You can call it twisting stats, or torturing them... that's your prerogative.

 

[phthalatemagic]

Just want to add switz, that you could be right about Jones. But you just never showed me why (at least why that made sense). You being right, however doesn't necessarily give you license to just dismiss facts that he does have injury issues.

I've never dismissed that he's been injured, just the weight people put into those injuries in projecting his future prospects. It's not an all or nothing, black and white matter. Many players who have had injuries in the past go on to have great careers. Felix has played almost a whole season worth of games (13) without getting injured in his most recent past. And in those games he's had the most average carries per game in his NFL career.You can call it twisting stats, or torturing them... that's your prerogative.

OK.How many times do you see the Cowboys running the ball next season? Do you think Choice/Barber/Jones are all on the team in 2010? Do you see Choice/Barber having less than 100 carries? I'm curious to know what you think the rushing attack will look like for the Cowboys next season. Maybe you said it, and I wasn't paying attention due to this silly argument.

 

[TenTimes]

Marion Barber isn't even the lead back in his own thread

 

[DesmondBishop]

Marion Barber isn't even the lead back in his own thread

So to try and clarify for myself, Choice may get the most carries and Barber will get the short yardage stuff (And TD's?) and Jones will have a set of plays designed for him because he is the only one of the three that scares a defense?

 

[Ridgelake]

Marion Barber isn't even the lead back in his own thread

So to try and clarify for myself, Choice may get the most carries and Barber will get the short yardage stuff (And TD's?) and Jones will have a set of plays designed for him because he is the only one of the three that scares a defense?

If all 3 backs return next year, you'll likely see a breakdown like you saw near the end of the season. Except Barber will start off healthy instead of injured. So Felix will get the most carries (50%), Barber next (40%). Barber will get the short yardage stuff. Then Choice (10%) will get the wildcat plays and be the 3rd down guy.But I have a feeling all 3 won't be back. Either Barber or Choice will get traded. If its Choice that gets traded, then you'll likely see a return to the Julius Jones/Barber split. There, Julius got the majority of carries. Barber was the 3rd down guy, short yardage guy, and game closer. But if Barber is traded, then its more guess work, but probably Choice remaining the 3rd down back and getting maybe 1/3 of the other work with Felix getting 2/3.

 

[dickey moe]

 

[switz]

Marion Barber isn't even the lead back in his own thread

So to try and clarify for myself, Choice may get the most carries and Barber will get the short yardage stuff (And TD's?) and Jones will have a set of plays designed for him because he is the only one of the three that scares a defense?

If all 3 backs return next year, you'll likely see a breakdown like you saw near the end of the season. Except Barber will start off healthy instead of injured. So Felix will get the most carries (50%), Barber next (40%). Barber will get the short yardage stuff. Then Choice (10%) will get the wildcat plays and be the 3rd down guy.But I have a feeling all 3 won't be back. Either Barber or Choice will get traded. If its Choice that gets traded, then you'll likely see a return to the Julius Jones/Barber split. There, Julius got the majority of carries. Barber was the 3rd down guy, short yardage guy, and game closer. But if Barber is traded, then its more guess work, but probably Choice remaining the 3rd down back and getting maybe 1/3 of the other work with Felix getting 2/3.

Jones had 79 carries in the last 6 games (including two playoff games), or 13 per game on average. He had 16 and 14 carries in the two playoff games. The Cowboys had talked at the beginning of the season of getting him 12-15 carries per game IIRC.I would expect Jones to hover around 15 carries per game next season, but I doubt the give him 20 on a regular basis. That should put him between 200 and 250 for the season. He averaged over 6 YPC in those last 6 games, so I don't think a somewhat light workload will have a negative effect on him. In fact, those 6 game #s project out to around 1400 yards rushing.I honestly expect to see Jones more in the 200-220 level of carries, and not near 250.So if that's what Jones gets, where does that leave Barber and Choice? Well, when Barber was splitting with Jones, he was most effecive with carries in the 130s (135 and 138) - and I could see that, if he's there, and the Cowboys are more committed to the run.If Barber stays, Choice will be just a third down/WildCat back. The coaches have shown that they feel both Jones and Barber are better than Choice - no matter what fans or others might think.If Barber goes, then I could see Jones workload up around 250 carries, with Choice getting the rest.

 

[eefflrat]

Marion Barber isn't even the lead back in his own thread

So to try and clarify for myself, Choice may get the most carries and Barber will get the short yardage stuff (And TD's?) and Jones will have a set of plays designed for him because he is the only one of the three that scares a defense?

If all 3 backs return next year, you'll likely see a breakdown like you saw near the end of the season. Except Barber will start off healthy instead of injured. So Felix will get the most carries (50%), Barber next (40%). Barber will get the short yardage stuff. Then Choice (10%) will get the wildcat plays and be the 3rd down guy.But I have a feeling all 3 won't be back. Either Barber or Choice will get traded. If its Choice that gets traded, then you'll likely see a return to the Julius Jones/Barber split. There, Julius got the majority of carries. Barber was the 3rd down guy, short yardage guy, and game closer. But if Barber is traded, then its more guess work, but probably Choice remaining the 3rd down back and getting maybe 1/3 of the other work with Felix getting 2/3.

Jones had 79 carries in the last 6 games (including two playoff games), or 13 per game on average. He had 16 and 14 carries in the two playoff games. The Cowboys had talked at the beginning of the season of getting him 12-15 carries per game IIRC.I would expect Jones to hover around 15 carries per game next season, but I doubt the give him 20 on a regular basis. That should put him between 200 and 250 for the season. He averaged over 6 YPC in those last 6 games, so I don't think a somewhat light workload will have a negative effect on him. In fact, those 6 game #s project out to around 1400 yards rushing.I honestly expect to see Jones more in the 200-220 level of carries, and not near 250.So if that's what Jones gets, where does that leave Barber and Choice? Well, when Barber was splitting with Jones, he was most effecive with carries in the 130s (135 and 138) - and I could see that, if he's there, and the Cowboys are more committed to the run.If Barber stays, Choice will be just a third down/WildCat back. The coaches have shown that they feel both Jones and Barber are better than Choice - no matter what fans or others might think.If Barber goes, then I could see Jones workload up around 250 carries, with Choice getting the rest.

didn't Barber sign a new deal last year or the year before? Would it be cost effective for them to trade him (would it matter in an uncapped year anyway?), and would another team be willing to eat the salary he's due? I'm not sure if he's being paid like a TRUE #1, any ideas?

 

[switz]

didn't Barber sign a new deal last year or the year before? Would it be cost effective for them to trade him (would it matter in an uncapped year anyway?), and would another team be willing to eat the salary he's due? I'm not sure if he's being paid like a TRUE #1, any ideas?

He signed a new deal right before they drafted Jones and Choice.

Cowboys owner Jerry Jones indicated that money won't be a factor in Marion Barber returning for the 2010 season, but injury concerns could cause a change in his usage pattern.

MBIII's injuries have been of the nagging variety, but the Cowboys still haven't been able to rely on him down the stretch for two straight years. Felix Jones has earned a greater share of the early-down carries, and Tashard Choice is expected to see more time on passing downs. ESPNDallas.com's Calvin Watkins shot down a "hot rumor" that the Cowboys are shopping Barber, who is due $4M bonus on top of his $3.8M salary in 2010.

 

[eefflrat]

didn't Barber sign a new deal last year or the year before? Would it be cost effective for them to trade him (would it matter in an uncapped year anyway?), and would another team be willing to eat the salary he's due? I'm not sure if he's being paid like a TRUE #1, any ideas?

He signed a new deal right before they drafted Jones and Choice.

Cowboys owner Jerry Jones indicated that money won't be a factor in Marion Barber returning for the 2010 season, but injury concerns could cause a change in his usage pattern.

MBIII's injuries have been of the nagging variety, but the Cowboys still haven't been able to rely on him down the stretch for two straight years. Felix Jones has earned a greater share of the early-down carries, and Tashard Choice is expected to see more time on passing downs. ESPNDallas.com's Calvin Watkins shot down a "hot rumor" that the Cowboys are shopping Barber, who is due $4M bonus on top of his $3.8M salary in 2010.

so he's due 7.8 million this year? That's a lot for a backup RB, but it is Jerry jones, and in an uncapped year it shouldn't matter anyway. However, there is a chance that Jones is just posturing as all owners and GM's do. i would bet if they got a fair enough offer Barber would be gone, the Cowboys young guns Jones and Choice look capable of handling duties in a committee

 

[phthalatemagic]

Just want to add switz, that you could be right about Jones. But you just never showed me why (at least why that made sense). You being right, however doesn't necessarily give you license to just dismiss facts that he does have injury issues.

I've never dismissed that he's been injured, just the weight people put into those injuries in projecting his future prospects. It's not an all or nothing, black and white matter. Many players who have had injuries in the past go on to have great careers. Felix has played almost a whole season worth of games (13) without getting injured in his most recent past. And in those games he's had the most average carries per game in his NFL career.You can call it twisting stats, or torturing them... that's your prerogative.

OK.How many times do you see the Cowboys running the ball next season? Do you think Choice/Barber/Jones are all on the team in 2010? Do you see Choice/Barber having less than 100 carries? I'm curious to know what you think the rushing attack will look like for the Cowboys next season. Maybe you said it, and I wasn't paying attention due to this silly argument.

I switz just wanted to argue about Jones' frailty, instead of give his ideas on how the Dallas running game is going to shape up.One for the road:

 

[KellysHeroes]

Barber looked great until that Quad injury