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Maroney 2009 (1 Viewer)

Yitbos69

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From what I have read and heard it's seems that it is likely that Maroney will be in Camp with NE. If he comes in healthy will he be the primary RB for NE in 2009. Will NE look to the draft for a young RB considering the age of most of the other RB's on their roster in 2008.

If he Maroney is the main back in NE...would he make a good #3 RB

 
If there's one thing I know about the way Belicheck handles the NE running game its that I have no idea how Belicheck will handle the NE running game.

You'll only be getting guesses.

I was always a fan of Maroney's talent but he just can't seem to ever put it together. I finally traded him away in a dynasty because I just couldn't deal with the headaches.

 
If there's one thing I know about the way Belicheck handles the NE running game its that I have no idea how Belicheck will handle the NE running game.You'll only be getting guesses.
Belichick isn't very confusing when it comes to the running game. The problem is the last time he had a consistent RB who could stay healthy was when Corey Dillon was in town.
 
If there's one thing I know about the way Belicheck handles the NE running game its that I have no idea how Belicheck will handle the NE running game.You'll only be getting guesses.I was always a fan of Maroney's talent but he just can't seem to ever put it together. I finally traded him away in a dynasty because I just couldn't deal with the headaches.
Is Belichick really the one to blame? If Maroney would run hard, block well, catch well, and not get hurt every time he takes the field, do you think Belichick would still have him on the sidelines so much?
 
If there's one thing I know about the way Belicheck handles the NE running game its that I have no idea how Belicheck will handle the NE running game.You'll only be getting guesses.I was always a fan of Maroney's talent but he just can't seem to ever put it together. I finally traded him away in a dynasty because I just couldn't deal with the headaches.
Is Belichick really the one to blame? If Maroney would run hard, block well, catch well, and not get hurt every time he takes the field, do you think Belichick would still have him on the sidelines so much?
:confused: Even Bob Kraft called Maroney out.
 
Maroney 2009, What will his role be?
First thing in the morning, he's going to water my lawn.Second, it'll be trimming the hedges.Next, raking the leaves/hedge clippings.After that, I'll probably give him a little break before he descends on skimming the pool.
 
I see no reason to expect anything different than what we have seen so far. 15-17 carries a game in games where they want to establish the run, practically no use in the passing game, and very few goal line looks.

People keep saying the Pats running game is a mystery, but other than that one monster year from Dillon they have used a RBBC and have done everything the same.

The only wrinkle has been when they decide to play an entire half without running the ball. That one is hard to predict.

As for drafting a hot shot rookie RB, I would tend to doubt it. They will likely sign someone as depth like Jordan last year (heck, maybe even Jordan this year) or maybe someone like Keving Jones. And everyone will share the wealth and no one will make a great fantasy option (although in the past two years Morris has been ok as a RB3 when's he's played).

 
I see no reason to expect anything different than what we have seen so far. 15-17 carries a game in games where they want to establish the run, practically no use in the passing game, and very few goal line looks.People keep saying the Pats running game is a mystery, but other than that one monster year from Dillon they have used a RBBC and have done everything the same.The only wrinkle has been when they decide to play an entire half without running the ball. That one is hard to predict.As for drafting a hot shot rookie RB, I would tend to doubt it. They will likely sign someone as depth like Jordan last year (heck, maybe even Jordan this year) or maybe someone like Keving Jones. And everyone will share the wealth and no one will make a great fantasy option (although in the past two years Morris has been ok as a RB3 when's he's played).
I think part of their approach has been a result of there having not been anyone to carry the load. Dillon did when he produced that monster year, and if you go back a few more years, Antowain Smith more or less carried the load in 2001. Aside from that, no one has really stepped up. Obviously, they had wanted Maroney to be that guy, or they would not have spent a 1st round pick on him. The "mystery," if that's what you or anyone else wants to call it, has arisen as a result of Maroney's injuries, lack of heart, and other disappointing aspects of his game.
 
If there's one thing I know about the way Belicheck handles the NE running game its that I have no idea how Belicheck will handle the NE running game.You'll only be getting guesses.I was always a fan of Maroney's talent but he just can't seem to ever put it together. I finally traded him away in a dynasty because I just couldn't deal with the headaches.
Is Belichick really the one to blame? If Maroney would run hard, block well, catch well, and not get hurt every time he takes the field, do you think Belichick would still have him on the sidelines so much?
I didn't blame Belicheck for Maroney's lack of production. Just saying in recent years (and especially last year), you never knew which RB was going to be the bell cow that day or if there would even be a bell cow. Last year we had Maroney, Morris, Jordan, Green Ellis, Faulk and Evans getting time. Sure alot of the changes were due to injury, but Billy also used RBs depending on package and opponent.
 
I see no reason to expect anything different than what we have seen so far. 15-17 carries a game in games where they want to establish the run, practically no use in the passing game, and very few goal line looks.People keep saying the Pats running game is a mystery, but other than that one monster year from Dillon they have used a RBBC and have done everything the same.The only wrinkle has been when they decide to play an entire half without running the ball. That one is hard to predict.
:clyde: My projected role for him is to drive some other owner insane with unpredictable production from week to week. Too much potential to drop, too little reliability to start.
 
If there's one thing I know about the way Belicheck handles the NE running game its that I have no idea how Belicheck will handle the NE running game.You'll only be getting guesses.I was always a fan of Maroney's talent but he just can't seem to ever put it together. I finally traded him away in a dynasty because I just couldn't deal with the headaches.
Is Belichick really the one to blame? If Maroney would run hard, block well, catch well, and not get hurt every time he takes the field, do you think Belichick would still have him on the sidelines so much?
I didn't blame Belicheck for Maroney's lack of production. Just saying in recent years (and especially last year), you never knew which RB was going to be the bell cow that day or if there would even be a bell cow. Last year we had Maroney, Morris, Jordan, Green Ellis, Faulk and Evans getting time. Sure alot of the changes were due to injury, but Billy also used RBs depending on package and opponent.
Uhh, not really. There are not "Green Ellis" packages. None of these guys stayed healthy, and with the exception of Faulk, none of them were consistent. It's not about Belichick, except when, as DY said, when they choose to basically not run at all.
 
I see no reason to expect anything different than what we have seen so far. 15-17 carries a game in games where they want to establish the run, practically no use in the passing game, and very few goal line looks.People keep saying the Pats running game is a mystery, but other than that one monster year from Dillon they have used a RBBC and have done everything the same.The only wrinkle has been when they decide to play an entire half without running the ball. That one is hard to predict.As for drafting a hot shot rookie RB, I would tend to doubt it. They will likely sign someone as depth like Jordan last year (heck, maybe even Jordan this year) or maybe someone like Keving Jones. And everyone will share the wealth and no one will make a great fantasy option (although in the past two years Morris has been ok as a RB3 when's he's played).
David - I wish you had posted this useful perspective before. :unsure:
 
I see no reason to expect anything different than what we have seen so far. 15-17 carries a game in games where they want to establish the run, practically no use in the passing game, and very few goal line looks.

People keep saying the Pats running game is a mystery, but other than that one monster year from Dillon they have used a RBBC and have done everything the same.

The only wrinkle has been when they decide to play an entire half without running the ball. That one is hard to predict.

As for drafting a hot shot rookie RB, I would tend to doubt it. They will likely sign someone as depth like Jordan last year (heck, maybe even Jordan this year) or maybe someone like Keving Jones. And everyone will share the wealth and no one will make a great fantasy option (although in the past two years Morris has been ok as a RB3 when's he's played).
David - I wish you had posted this useful perspective before. ;)
Seriously - guy spends all season selling people on how valuable the NE RB's are going to be. :lmao:
 
JetsWillWin said:
Dr. Octopus said:
If there's one thing I know about the way Belicheck handles the NE running game its that I have no idea how Belicheck will handle the NE running game.

You'll only be getting guesses.

I was always a fan of Maroney's talent but he just can't seem to ever put it together. I finally traded him away in a dynasty because I just couldn't deal with the headaches.
Is Belichick really the one to blame? If Maroney would run hard, block well, catch well, and not get hurt every time he takes the field, do you think Belichick would still have him on the sidelines so much?
I didn't blame Belicheck for Maroney's lack of production. Just saying in recent years (and especially last year), you never knew which RB was going to be the bell cow that day or if there would even be a bell cow. Last year we had Maroney, Morris, Jordan, Green Ellis, Faulk and Evans getting time. Sure alot of the changes were due to injury, but Billy also used RBs depending on package and opponent.
Uhh, not really. There are not "Green Ellis" packages. None of these guys stayed healthy, and with the exception of Faulk, none of them were consistent. It's not about Belichick, except when, as DY said, when they choose to basically not run at all.
:thumbup:
 
Maroney had a stellar playoffs last season.

He went into this season and he just didn't seem right.

Turns out his shoulder was fooked.

If Maroney comes into camp 100% healthy, I think

he will be the #1 RB, but I also think this will be his last chance

to show his value to BB.

A nice "buy low" if you can get him cheap, imo.

 
Maroney had a stellar playoffs last season.He went into this season and he just didn't seem right.Turns out his shoulder was fooked.If Maroney comes into camp 100% healthy, I thinkhe will be the #1 RB, but I also think this will be his last chanceto show his value to BB.A nice "buy low" if you can get him cheap, imo.
I think the question is not whether Maroney is the #1 or not, but rather how the heck will he stay healthy. I'm a Pats fan and there is no way that they can rely on him next year. So he won't get the bulk of the carries. In other words, I don't think there can be a true #1 next season. If you were BB would you really rely on Maroney???I agree though, he is a great buy low candidate because you should even have to "buy him." He can be had for nothing right now.
 
I know it probably won't happen but NE should trade him. It would probably be best for him and team if they parted ways.

 
I know it probably won't happen but NE should trade him. It would probably be best for him and team if they parted ways.
Here's the problem with this one. It is not in the best interest of NE to trade him. He is relatively inexpensive salary wise and his trade value is nominal. What would another team be willing to part with, a 5th or 6th round pick at this point? The Pats could get some production out of him if he is somewhat healthy, so I think he'll stay a Patriot.
 
I know it probably won't happen but NE should trade him. It would probably be best for him and team if they parted ways.
Here's the problem with this one. It is not in the best interest of NE to trade him. He is relatively inexpensive salary wise and his trade value is nominal. What would another team be willing to part with, a 5th or 6th round pick at this point? The Pats could get some production out of him if he is somewhat healthy, so I think he'll stay a Patriot.
Looking at his contract, I have to agree. However, I do think he is worth more than a 5th round pick to most other teams.
 
I know it probably won't happen but NE should trade him. It would probably be best for him and team if they parted ways.
Here's the problem with this one. It is not in the best interest of NE to trade him. He is relatively inexpensive salary wise and his trade value is nominal. What would another team be willing to part with, a 5th or 6th round pick at this point? The Pats could get some production out of him if he is somewhat healthy, so I think he'll stay a Patriot.
Looking at his contract, I have to agree. However, I do think he is worth more than a 5th round pick to most other teams.
If you look at the trades considered and made and how little teams offered up for RBs, I don't see Maroney having much value in a trade. When you stop and consider that Maroney has now missed parts of 3 seasons with the same shoulder injury and that a team could draft a RB with better health and less black marks on his effort on the field, I don't see a big market for LM. A team could take the same pick they would have to give up on Maroney and take someone younger and healthier.
 
I'm looking forward to Maroney's price being driven up by a decent (and healthy) pre-season so a bunch of suckers will reach/overspend for him. He'll inevitably get dinged early in the season and be a non-factor by week 8. Next season somebody will say he's a great buy low because he just needed a change of scenery. Wash and repeat until he's out of the league in three seasons.

 
I know it probably won't happen but NE should trade him. It would probably be best for him and team if they parted ways.
Here's the problem with this one. It is not in the best interest of NE to trade him. He is relatively inexpensive salary wise and his trade value is nominal. What would another team be willing to part with, a 5th or 6th round pick at this point? The Pats could get some production out of him if he is somewhat healthy, so I think he'll stay a Patriot.
Looking at his contract, I have to agree. However, I do think he is worth more than a 5th round pick to most other teams.
If you look at the trades considered and made and how little teams offered up for RBs, I don't see Maroney having much value in a trade. When you stop and consider that Maroney has now missed parts of 3 seasons with the same shoulder injury and that a team could draft a RB with better health and less black marks on his effort on the field, I don't see a big market for LM. A team could take the same pick they would have to give up on Maroney and take someone younger and healthier.
It obvious that you feel that he will never recover from his injury. Maroney himself is more optomistic (I guess he needs to be) :
Maroney agreed that going on injured reserve Oct. 20 was for the best.

“It was the smartest (course of action) when you think about longevity, and think about the outlook,” Maroney said. “Is he going to be stupid now, and have a short career after this? Or take care of it now and have a long career. Me and Bill (Belichick) talked about it a lot. We did the best thing we felt was right.”"
http://www.prosportsdaily.com/comments/sil...ain-170985.htmlEven if he can't go full time as RB , he is one of the better kick returners in the league. He is probably worth a 5th round pick on that basis alone.

 
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I know it probably won't happen but NE should trade him. It would probably be best for him and team if they parted ways.
Here's the problem with this one. It is not in the best interest of NE to trade him. He is relatively inexpensive salary wise and his trade value is nominal. What would another team be willing to part with, a 5th or 6th round pick at this point? The Pats could get some production out of him if he is somewhat healthy, so I think he'll stay a Patriot.
Looking at his contract, I have to agree. However, I do think he is worth more than a 5th round pick to most other teams.
If you look at the trades considered and made and how little teams offered up for RBs, I don't see Maroney having much value in a trade. When you stop and consider that Maroney has now missed parts of 3 seasons with the same shoulder injury and that a team could draft a RB with better health and less black marks on his effort on the field, I don't see a big market for LM. A team could take the same pick they would have to give up on Maroney and take someone younger and healthier.
It obvious that you feel that he will never recover from his injury. Maroney himself is more optomistic (I guess he needs to be) :
Maroney agreed that going on injured reserve Oct. 20 was for the best.

“It was the smartest (course of action) when you think about longevity, and think about the outlook,” Maroney said. “Is he going to be stupid now, and have a short career after this? Or take care of it now and have a long career. Me and Bill (Belichick) talked about it a lot. We did the best thing we felt was right.”"
http://www.prosportsdaily.com/comments/sil...ain-170985.htmlEven if he can't go full time as RB , he is one of the better kick returners in the league. He is probably worth a 5th round pick on that basis alone.
If you kept up on all my other posts on Maroney over the years, there is also something else going on with him beyond the shoulder injury. What that is, no one will talk about, but I can confirm that he has other issues unrelated to his shoulder that are not injury related. I have poked around for answers to this for months and no one will tell me what they are and whatever it is, those that know have been sworn to secrecy. Can't explain it anymore than I just did, but I have been told that there are other things going on with him.He returned 28 kicks in his rookie season in 2006 and hasn't done it since. Of players with a total of 300 or more carries over the past three seasons, Maroney ranks 19th in ypc. He clearly has physical issues, plays soft, and has not gotten a reputation for not playing particularly hard. Whether Maroney is worth a 5th or more really doesn't make much difference at this point as it's unlikely he will be traded, but there are other RBs that are either free agents or coming in as rookies that teams would probably find more attractive with less baggage.

I would guess Maroney's fork in the road will be this season, as he will either start to be a productive and reliable back or he will be done with the Pats and have to test the free agent waters. He's still very young and would benefit benefit from being in a system that fits him better, so maybe he will get a better shot on another team once he's done in NE.

 
If you kept up on all my other posts on Maroney over the years, there is also something else going on with him beyond the shoulder injury. What that is, no one will talk about, but I can confirm that he has other issues unrelated to his shoulder that are not injury related. I have poked around for answers to this for months and no one will tell me what they are and whatever it is, those that know have been sworn to secrecy. Can't explain it anymore than I just did, but I have been told that there are other things going on with him.

He returned 28 kicks in his rookie season in 2006 and hasn't done it since. Of players with a total of 300 or more carries over the past three seasons, Maroney ranks 19th in ypc. He clearly has physical issues, plays soft, and has not gotten a reputation for not playing particularly hard. Whether Maroney is worth a 5th or more really doesn't make much difference at this point as it's unlikely he will be traded, but there are other RBs that are either free agents or coming in as rookies that teams would probably find more attractive with less baggage.

I would guess Maroney's fork in the road will be this season, as he will either start to be a productive and reliable back or he will be done with the Pats and have to test the free agent waters. He's still very young and would benefit benefit from being in a system that fits him better, so maybe he will get a better shot on another team once he's done in NE.
I know you said you can't explain it anymore, but are you referring to something else physical, a mental issue of some sort or are you in the dark even about what realm of "other issue" it is?
 
If you kept up on all my other posts on Maroney over the years, there is also something else going on with him beyond the shoulder injury. What that is, no one will talk about, but I can confirm that he has other issues unrelated to his shoulder that are not injury related. I have poked around for answers to this for months and no one will tell me what they are and whatever it is, those that know have been sworn to secrecy. Can't explain it anymore than I just did, but I have been told that there are other things going on with him.

He returned 28 kicks in his rookie season in 2006 and hasn't done it since. Of players with a total of 300 or more carries over the past three seasons, Maroney ranks 19th in ypc. He clearly has physical issues, plays soft, and has not gotten a reputation for not playing particularly hard. Whether Maroney is worth a 5th or more really doesn't make much difference at this point as it's unlikely he will be traded, but there are other RBs that are either free agents or coming in as rookies that teams would probably find more attractive with less baggage.

I would guess Maroney's fork in the road will be this season, as he will either start to be a productive and reliable back or he will be done with the Pats and have to test the free agent waters. He's still very young and would benefit benefit from being in a system that fits him better, so maybe he will get a better shot on another team once he's done in NE.
I know you said you can't explain it anymore, but are you referring to something else physical, a mental issue of some sort or are you in the dark even about what realm of "other issue" it is?
All I know is I pushed people I know about what the real issue was with regard to Maroney and after ruffling some feathers was told that only part of it was a physical injury and there was another issue not making it into the news. That's all I got and was told not to push the issue farther than that because that was all I was going to get. That's almost verbatim what info I got, so I cannot begin to speculate what else it could be.
 

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