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[tdmills]

Patriots | Maroney confident he will break out in 2009

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Wed, 06 May 2009 09:06:26 -0700

Karen Guregian, of the Boston Herald, reports New England Patriots RB Laurence Maroney vowed that he will silence his critics this season and prove he is worthy of being a first-round draft pick. "Man, you know, you like to be confident," Maroney said in a phone interview. "You never want to say it's not going to be your year. I just feel real confident about myself. I just feel like this has to be my year. There's no other way around it. I just feel like I have to be better this year. …I was a first rounder with a lot of expectations. I know how good I can be. I know my worth to the team."

Here is a guy that isn't getting much press this year from FBG. Any hope for him with Fred Taylor in town now?

 

[Superdbs]

Patriots | Maroney confident he will break out in 2009 Comment (0) Wed, 06 May 2009 09:06:26 -0700Karen Guregian, of the Boston Herald, reports New England Patriots RB Laurence Maroney vowed that he will silence his critics this season and prove he is worthy of being a first-round draft pick. "Man, you know, you like to be confident," Maroney said in a phone interview. "You never want to say it's not going to be your year. I just feel real confident about myself. I just feel like this has to be my year. There's no other way around it. I just feel like I have to be better this year. …I was a first rounder with a lot of expectations. I know how good I can be. I know my worth to the team."Here is a guy that isn't getting much press this year from FBG. Any hope for him with Fred Taylor in town now?

Dead to me. Can't stay healthy, can't beat out journeyman backs, isn't a three-down player or goal line guy whenever he does play. If Brady comes back strong, he'll be even more of an afterthought on offense next to the passing game.Other than that, he's awesome

 

[Raider Nation]

He'll break something, alright.

 

[TheFanatic]

Well that settles it then....

 

[tombonneau]

As a fan of Maroney and FF owner, it's frustrating because we got a glimpse of what he could do as a full-time back at the end of 07. I think if he stays healthy, he's an above-average back in this league.

 

[tdmills]

I just think its crazy that nobody talks about him.

In the 07 playoffs he had back to back 122 yard games...and then he gets hurt in 08.

I know NE isn't a running team....but what is his outlook?

 

[Banger]

He can say whatever he wants but the proof is in the pudding. BB doesn't trust him, doesn't like him, doesn't feel he's good enough, whatever but he obviously isn't comfortable riding him and hasn't to date so I don't see why that should change just because Maroney thinks it should.

 

[Dave Larkin]

As long as Maroney is a Patriot in that RBBC, I won't trust what he says about having a breakout season. I do think he could get the most carries for the Patriots, but with Brady back there directing traffic, Maroney won't be more than a RB4.

 

[MAC_32]

Beanie Wells thinks he's soft.

 

[FantasyTrader]

Ah yes, that feels better. Just wouldn't have been May without it.

 

[switz]

Beanie Wells thinks he's soft.

The Pats signed 'Fragile' Fred Taylor so they had a more durable RB.

 

[TheFanatic]

Patriots | Maroney confident he will break out in 2009

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Wed, 06 May 2009 09:06:26 -0700

Karen Guregian, of the Boston Herald, reports New England Patriots RB Laurence Maroney vowed that he will silence his critics this season and prove he is worthy of being a first-round draft pick. "Man, you know, you like to be confident," Maroney said in a phone interview. "You never want to say it's not going to be your year. I just feel real confident about myself. I just feel like this has to be my year. There's no other way around it. I just feel like I have to be better this year. …I was a first rounder with a lot of expectations. I know how good I can be. I know my worth to the team."

Here is a guy that isn't getting much press this year from FBG. Any hope for him with Fred Taylor in town now?

Sorry, but that is not someone who is confident. He talks in hypotheticals first. Talks about how "you" like to be confident. Like? It's as if he's repeating something someone else said to him. His agent maybe? He doesn't say this is his year. He's saying it has to be his year. He talks about having to be better. He doesnt say, "this is my year. I will be better." He is talking about all kinds of external things. Not anything internal and not showing any sort of internal fortitude that I can see....This guys is even soft in an interview...

 

[Mark Wimer]

He'll break something, alright.

This - if he gets enough carries to actually get hit more than a few dozen times.

 

[soothsayer]

I think it's a mistake to overlook Maroney as someone to take a chance on. To draft/acquire him you won't have to give up much at all (a late pick or unproven prospect)....yet there is clearly a high upside to him. It's easy to poke fun at him and discount his chances but given his upside his price tag is very attractive IMO.

 

[T Bell]

If he's as confident of breaking out in 2009 as Jeff George is, I'm sold.

 

[Phlash]

I'll believe it when I see it. Guy has plenty of talent but he is brittle beyond belief.

 

[foxco]

I have gotten him as a throw-in in a couple of dynasty league trades... just in case.

 

[EBF]

Send him some acne medication.

 

[Multiple Scores]

Traded him for a 2010 1st rounder.

 

[Banger]

I think it's a mistake to overlook Maroney as someone to take a chance on. To draft/acquire him you won't have to give up much at all (a late pick or unproven prospect)....yet there is clearly a high upside to him. It's easy to poke fun at him and discount his chances but given his upside his price tag is very attractive IMO.

I don't think many would debate that he's not worth taking as your 5th RB and seeing what happens but that's a far cry from where this guy was a season or two ago as a 1st round pick for the Pats.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

grabbed him as a wtf RB in round 12 of a dynasty start up. why not.

 

[RoyDubb]

got him in the 17th round in a startup, well worth the risk at that point. And i believe that is his ADP in most leagues, past the 14th round, so why not take a chance on a 24 year old RB?

 

[Scooby1974]

Traded him for a 2010 1st rounder.

Nice work on your part!

 

[T Bell]

Traded him for a 2010 1st rounder.

I dumped him this last offseason too, just to recoup my original pick value. I felt like I came out ahead on that one. I've concluded that he's another Mewelde Moore, albeit a higher drafted version of course. Both are immensely talented, but both suffer injuries easily (to the point where it seems to have hurt their professional reputation) and both are and have been in bad situations, either with superior talent in front of them or with few carries due to system or being in RBBC's. I get the feeling with Maroney that if he has a good season at this point, you have to regard it as a fluke that's not likely to repeat and become a pattern.

 

[Michael Fox Fan]

Traded him for a 2010 1st rounder.

I dumped him this last offseason too, just to recoup my original pick value. I felt like I came out ahead on that one. I've concluded that he's another Mewelde Moore, albeit a higher drafted version of course. Both are immensely talented, but both suffer injuries easily (to the point where it seems to have hurt their professional reputation) and both are and have been in bad situations, either with superior talent in front of them or with few carries due to system or being in RBBC's. I get the feeling with Maroney that if he has a good season at this point, you have to regard it as a fluke that's not likely to repeat and become a pattern.

It's a little strange to see a 1st rd pick compared to a 4th rd pick

 

[Adebisi]

I've concluded that he's another Mewelde Moore, albeit a higher drafted version of course. Both are immensely talented, but both suffer injuries easily (to the point where it seems to have hurt their professional reputation) and both are and have been in bad situations, either with superior talent in front of them or with few carries due to system or being in RBBC's.

You make it sound as though Maroney has never been given a good, fair chance.

 

[Adebisi]

Maroney has said these types of things before every one of this seasons in the NFL. At this point, he's stuck in a committee with Fred Taylor, Sammy Morris, and Kevin Faulk. Even if he proves to be the most effective runner of the group, I think the Patriots will keep the committee intact at this point, for fear of running him down over the course of the season, since there is absolutely no evidence whatsoever to suggest that he can run effectively for a full year.

 

[Loan Sharks]

Maroney has said these types of things before every one of this seasons in the NFL. At this point, he's stuck in a committee with Fred Taylor, Sammy Morris, and Kevin Faulk. Even if he proves to be the most effective runner of the group, I think the Patriots will keep the committee intact at this point, for fear of running him down over the course of the season, since there is absolutely no evidence whatsoever to suggest that he can run effectively for a full year.

Lets say this is the case, which is a best case scenario for Maroney. Where does he go from there? When is his contract up? Cap hit etc? If he does ok this year he may move on to a better situation.

 

[32 Counter Pass]

Does he have potential? Sure. But until I see otherwise I will not take a chance unless it is very, very late in a draft.

Maroney = Caddy

Neither can stay healthy.

 

[T Bell]

Traded him for a 2010 1st rounder.

I dumped him this last offseason too, just to recoup my original pick value. I felt like I came out ahead on that one. I've concluded that he's another Mewelde Moore, albeit a higher drafted version of course. Both are immensely talented, but both suffer injuries easily (to the point where it seems to have hurt their professional reputation) and both are and have been in bad situations, either with superior talent in front of them or with few carries due to system or being in RBBC's. I get the feeling with Maroney that if he has a good season at this point, you have to regard it as a fluke that's not likely to repeat and become a pattern.

It's a little strange to see a 1st rd pick compared to a 4th rd pick

As time goes on where someone was drafted means less and less. We routinely compare a first overall pick with a sixth rounder when we talk about Manning and Brady.

 

[T Bell]

I've concluded that he's another Mewelde Moore, albeit a higher drafted version of course. Both are immensely talented, but both suffer injuries easily (to the point where it seems to have hurt their professional reputation) and both are and have been in bad situations, either with superior talent in front of them or with few carries due to system or being in RBBC's.

You make it sound as though Maroney has never been given a good, fair chance.

Has he ever lost his starting job other than due to injury? I don't recall that being the case.

 

[Avery]

I don't have high hopes, but based on the reaction to him on this thread, he shouldn't cost much of anything so he seems like a decent enough flyer for the end of the bench. Also, with a new O-coordinator calling the plays in New England, perhaps he'll have a bit of a fresh start.

 

[Zimm]

He will prolly get a max of 15 carries a game i doubt he will even be the starter by seasons end anyway he doesn't fit the system.

 

[David Yudkin]

Just . . . say . . . no.

Maroney is probably worth a flyer because his value should be about 8 cents on the dollar right now. He might sneak in a decent game or two and might be decent roster depth fantasy wise. But that's about it.

Anyone thinking NE will be anything but a RBBC hasn't been paying attention the past few years. IMO, the only way Maroney has much value is if all the other Pats RBs get hurt (which Denver fans will tell you can happen).

 

[iSnitch]

There's a lot of quality one-liners in this thread. If I can get him for the minimum bid in my auction ($1) then I MIGHT snag him (imo that's pathetic that even for minimum cost I would think twice) but he is very close to being totally worthless.

 

[Routilla]

Maybe a break out in hives.

 

[Adebisi]

I've concluded that he's another Mewelde Moore, albeit a higher drafted version of course. Both are immensely talented, but both suffer injuries easily (to the point where it seems to have hurt their professional reputation) and both are and have been in bad situations, either with superior talent in front of them or with few carries due to system or being in RBBC's.

You make it sound as though Maroney has never been given a good, fair chance.

Has he ever lost his starting job other than due to injury? I don't recall that being the case.

"Lost" his starting job? He never even won the starting job.

 

[T Bell]

I've concluded that he's another Mewelde Moore, albeit a higher drafted version of course. Both are immensely talented, but both suffer injuries easily (to the point where it seems to have hurt their professional reputation) and both are and have been in bad situations, either with superior talent in front of them or with few carries due to system or being in RBBC's.

You make it sound as though Maroney has never been given a good, fair chance.

Has he ever lost his starting job other than due to injury? I don't recall that being the case.

"Lost" his starting job? He never even won the starting job.

NFL.com shows him as having 6 starts in 2007, including the season opener, and 3 more last year. Both seasons were interrupted by injury and the team's RBBC proclivities. I'm not advocating for Maroney here, but to say that the team has really given him a sustained try when he's been healthy is stretching the truth.

 

[Adebisi]

I've concluded that he's another Mewelde Moore, albeit a higher drafted version of course. Both are immensely talented, but both suffer injuries easily (to the point where it seems to have hurt their professional reputation) and both are and have been in bad situations, either with superior talent in front of them or with few carries due to system or being in RBBC's.

You make it sound as though Maroney has never been given a good, fair chance.

Has he ever lost his starting job other than due to injury? I don't recall that being the case.

"Lost" his starting job? He never even won the starting job.

NFL.com shows him as having 6 starts in 2007, including the season opener, and 3 more last year. Both seasons were interrupted by injury and the team's RBBC proclivities. I'm not advocating for Maroney here, but to say that the team has really given him a sustained try when he's been healthy is stretching the truth.

Sammy Morris - a journeyman RB by anyone's definition - has outplayed Maroney since Maroney spent his rookie year splitting carries with a washed-up Corey Dillon.Maroney played in 13 games in 2007 and led the team with 14.2 carries per game (Morris also had 14.2, but played in only 6 games).

The team's "RBBC proclivities" are a result of no one being good enough to be The Man as much as they are a predetermined strategy. Why were Antowain Smith and Corey Dillon ridden so hard in 2001-02 and 2004-05, respectively? It's because they were clearly the best RBs on the roster.

Please explain to me why a team would spend a 1st round pick on a RB, only to deny him the opportunity to be the centerpiece of their running game. In 2008, Maroney and Morris played in 3 games together (Weeks 1, 2, and 5). Morris had more carries than Maroney. Why do you suppose that might be?

 

[Avery]

Sammy Morris - a journeyman RB by anyone's definition - has outplayed Maroney since Maroney spent his rookie year splitting carries with a washed-up Corey Dillon.

Maroney played in 13 games in 2007 and led the team with 14.2 carries per game (Morris also had 14.2, but played in only 6 games).

The team's "RBBC proclivities" are a result of no one being good enough to be The Man as much as they are a predetermined strategy. Why were Antowain Smith and Corey Dillon ridden so hard in 2001-02 and 2004-05, respectively? It's because they were clearly the best RBs on the roster.

Please explain to me why a team would spend a 1st round pick on a RB, only to deny him the opportunity to be the centerpiece of their running game. In 2008, Maroney and Morris played in 3 games together (Weeks 1, 2, and 5). Morris had more carries than Maroney. Why do you suppose that might be?

I believe Yudkin has said a number of times that there is something going on behind the scenes with Maroney that is beyond the realm of his physical skillset.

 

[-baller]

Maroney has said these types of things before every one of this seasons in the NFL. At this point, he's stuck in a committee with Fred Taylor, Sammy Morris, and Kevin Faulk. Even if he proves to be the most effective runner of the group, I think the Patriots will keep the committee intact at this point, for fear of running him down over the course of the season, since there is absolutely no evidence whatsoever to suggest that he can run effectively for a full year.

Lets say this is the case, which is a best case scenario for Maroney. Where does he go from there? When is his contract up? Cap hit etc? If he does ok this year he may move on to a better situation.

he's signed through this year and next year, and his cap figure is a little shy of $2m, I believe.thx, miguel! http://www.patscap.com/

I think there's some truth in this thread, but also a lot of exaggeration and misinformation.

a couple years ago some guy in my league took him in the second, I think it was, and I laughed at him --- not so much because I hated maroney, but because of the value.

after a few games, he then tried to trade maroney to me at some premium price, and I still had no interest because he carries a lot of legit negatives.

so, I'm telling you all this not because I want to derail about my league, but to show that I actually had a negative opinion on maroney at one point --- but I think the pendulum has swung all the way back to where he looks like a good late rounder because of the value of the pick.

he actually has great upside, and while he certainly has an injury history, does that mean I have a trend off those limited data points?

I can find a lot of guys in the league that have a few injuries --- does that doom them to further injury?

to say he's not a 'goalline back' is a bit of an exaggeration, as he stands to have quite a few more opportunities than the bulk of nfl backs just because of that offense.

to say he's rbbc could also be a little misleading, while maybe technically true, and to say new england can't, or won't, run the ball is just an outright crock.

IF he's healthy, and he should be, he figures to start, get plenty enough carries to put up fantasy points, and have a ton more shots at the end zone than most other backs in football --- all for a late round pick.

 

[duaneok66]

Maroney's in jail???

 

[Adebisi]

Sammy Morris - a journeyman RB by anyone's definition - has outplayed Maroney since Maroney spent his rookie year splitting carries with a washed-up Corey Dillon.

Maroney played in 13 games in 2007 and led the team with 14.2 carries per game (Morris also had 14.2, but played in only 6 games).

The team's "RBBC proclivities" are a result of no one being good enough to be The Man as much as they are a predetermined strategy. Why were Antowain Smith and Corey Dillon ridden so hard in 2001-02 and 2004-05, respectively? It's because they were clearly the best RBs on the roster.

Please explain to me why a team would spend a 1st round pick on a RB, only to deny him the opportunity to be the centerpiece of their running game. In 2008, Maroney and Morris played in 3 games together (Weeks 1, 2, and 5). Morris had more carries than Maroney. Why do you suppose that might be?

I believe Yudkin has said a number of times that there is something going on behind the scenes with Maroney that is beyond the realm of his physical skillset.

Yeah - he's a pansy who hasn't run hard and doesn't give consistent effort. It's obvious to anyone who has watched him play since he came into the league. Guy is a joke.

 

[Avery]

Sammy Morris - a journeyman RB by anyone's definition - has outplayed Maroney since Maroney spent his rookie year splitting carries with a washed-up Corey Dillon.

Maroney played in 13 games in 2007 and led the team with 14.2 carries per game (Morris also had 14.2, but played in only 6 games).

The team's "RBBC proclivities" are a result of no one being good enough to be The Man as much as they are a predetermined strategy. Why were Antowain Smith and Corey Dillon ridden so hard in 2001-02 and 2004-05, respectively? It's because they were clearly the best RBs on the roster.

Please explain to me why a team would spend a 1st round pick on a RB, only to deny him the opportunity to be the centerpiece of their running game. In 2008, Maroney and Morris played in 3 games together (Weeks 1, 2, and 5). Morris had more carries than Maroney. Why do you suppose that might be?

I believe Yudkin has said a number of times that there is something going on behind the scenes with Maroney that is beyond the realm of his physical skillset.

Yeah - he's a pansy who hasn't run hard and doesn't give consistent effort. It's obvious to anyone who has watched him play since he came into the league. Guy is a joke.

Be that as it may, although Yudkin won't say the specific issue, he seems to imply that it is more Maroney just being "soft".

 

[Adebisi]

he's signed through this year and next year, and his cap figure is a little shy of $2m, I believe.

thx, miguel! http://www.patscap.com/

I think there's some truth in this thread, but also a lot of exaggeration and misinformation.

a couple years ago some guy in my league took him in the second, I think it was, and I laughed at him --- not so much because I hated maroney, but because of the value.

after a few games, he then tried to trade maroney to me at some premium price, and I still had no interest because he carries a lot of legit negatives.

so, I'm telling you all this not because I want to derail about my league, but to show that I actually had a negative opinion on maroney at one point --- but I think the pendulum has swung all the way back to where he looks like a good late rounder because of the value of the pick.

he actually has great upside, and while he certainly has an injury history, does that mean I have a trend off those limited data points?

I can find a lot of guys in the league that have a few injuries --- does that doom them to further injury?

to say he's not a 'goalline back' is a bit of an exaggeration, as he stands to have quite a few more opportunities than the bulk of nfl backs just because of that offense.

to say he's rbbc could also be a little misleading, while maybe technically true, and to say new england can't, or won't, run the ball is just an outright crock.

IF he's healthy, and he should be, he figures to start, get plenty enough carries to put up fantasy points, and have a ton more shots at the end zone than most other backs in football --- all for a late round pick.

I'm very surprised to hear all of this from you. In particular, I don't understand this line: "...to say he's rbbc could also be a little misleading..." Um, how so? This team has Fred Taylor (the most accomplished RB on the team), Sammy Morris (who has looked better than Maroney since he joined the team), and Kevin Faulk (who's pretty much a lock as the 3rd down back).How is it "misleading" to call that a RBBC?

 

[Adebisi]

Be that as it may, although Yudkin won't say the specific issue, he seems to imply that it is more Maroney just being "soft".

I don't think it's necessary for me to rehash my opinions about Yudkin's so-called "inside information," so I will just say that it's pretty obvious to anyone who really follows this team that management has not been happy with Maroney for quite some time now. Since Bob Kraft bought the Patriots, I can't recall Kraft ever saying anything negative about any player on the team, except for Maroney, when he said, during the 2007 playoffs, that Maroney was "finally" running hard. Unless it was something like "his mother has cancer and his wife & child just died during childbirth," if there was some other serious issue regarding Maroney that wasn't related to football, everything we have seen from the Patriots over the past few years would indicate that the team would simply just wash their hands of the guy.

 

[David Yudkin]

Be that as it may, although Yudkin won't say the specific issue, he seems to imply that it is more Maroney just being "soft".

I don't think it's necessary for me to rehash my opinions about Yudkin's so-called "inside information," so I will just say that it's pretty obvious to anyone who really follows this team that management has not been happy with Maroney for quite some time now. Since Bob Kraft bought the Patriots, I can't recall Kraft ever saying anything negative about any player on the team, except for Maroney, when he said, during the 2007 playoffs, that Maroney was "finally" running hard. Unless it was something like "his mother has cancer and his wife & child just died during childbirth," if there was some other serious issue regarding Maroney that wasn't related to football, everything we have seen from the Patriots over the past few years would indicate that the team would simply just wash their hands of the guy.

I have been told by people that know more than the general public that Maroney has issues not related to health or football . . . but no one will tell me what those issues are. If I knew I would say.

 

[-baller]

he's signed through this year and next year, and his cap figure is a little shy of $2m, I believe.

thx, miguel! http://www.patscap.com/

I think there's some truth in this thread, but also a lot of exaggeration and misinformation.

a couple years ago some guy in my league took him in the second, I think it was, and I laughed at him --- not so much because I hated maroney, but because of the value.

after a few games, he then tried to trade maroney to me at some premium price, and I still had no interest because he carries a lot of legit negatives.

so, I'm telling you all this not because I want to derail about my league, but to show that I actually had a negative opinion on maroney at one point --- but I think the pendulum has swung all the way back to where he looks like a good late rounder because of the value of the pick.

he actually has great upside, and while he certainly has an injury history, does that mean I have a trend off those limited data points?

I can find a lot of guys in the league that have a few injuries --- does that doom them to further injury?

to say he's not a 'goalline back' is a bit of an exaggeration, as he stands to have quite a few more opportunities than the bulk of nfl backs just because of that offense.

to say he's rbbc could also be a little misleading, while maybe technically true, and to say new england can't, or won't, run the ball is just an outright crock.

IF he's healthy, and he should be, he figures to start, get plenty enough carries to put up fantasy points, and have a ton more shots at the end zone than most other backs in football --- all for a late round pick.

I'm very surprised to hear all of this from you. In particular, I don't understand this line: "...to say he's rbbc could also be a little misleading..." Um, how so? This team has Fred Taylor (the most accomplished RB on the team), Sammy Morris (who has looked better than Maroney since he joined the team), and Kevin Faulk (who's pretty much a lock as the 3rd down back).How is it "misleading" to call that a RBBC?

my caveat was that rbbc might be technically correct, but I think it's misleading in spirit because rbbc carries all this innuendo of poor fantasy value.I could say jacobs was rbbc on the giants, or deangelo was rbbc on carolina --- are those guys really bad fantasy picks?

now, what if you could get them in a late round?

I don't expect maroney to get 25 carries/game, but that offense should garner plenty more plays and ToP than the average nfl offense, and even more importantly, plenty more td opps.

if they're blowing teams out, you'll most likely find maroney on the bench in quarter 4, but he can easily do his damage in the previous 3 quarters, IF he stays healthy.

IF he stays healthy he will get the bulk of the carries in what could possibly be the nfl's most prolific offense, so even if that amounts to a 70-80 yard average and one td per game, I'll take that for where he's likely to be drafted.

I think you need a crystal ball to figure his health.

would you rather have a back who gets 25 carries on a team that averages 10 ppg, or a back getting 15 carries on a team that averages 35 ppg --- and even if you picked the 25 carry back, how many rounds higher would you take him?

I say it's misleading because IF he stays healthy, you could easily be looking at first round production from the ? round.

is there a reliable adp on him yet?

I think I'll do a game by game breakdown in a minute to further underscore my point.

 

[-baller]

Be that as it may, although Yudkin won't say the specific issue, he seems to imply that it is more Maroney just being "soft".

I don't think it's necessary for me to rehash my opinions about Yudkin's so-called "inside information," so I will just say that it's pretty obvious to anyone who really follows this team that management has not been happy with Maroney for quite some time now. Since Bob Kraft bought the Patriots, I can't recall Kraft ever saying anything negative about any player on the team, except for Maroney, when he said, during the 2007 playoffs, that Maroney was "finally" running hard. Unless it was something like "his mother has cancer and his wife & child just died during childbirth," if there was some other serious issue regarding Maroney that wasn't related to football, everything we have seen from the Patriots over the past few years would indicate that the team would simply just wash their hands of the guy.

I have been told by people that know more than the general public that Maroney has issues not related to health or football . . . but no one will tell me what those issues are. If I knew I would say.

yeah, maroney actually alluded to this in his interview after the shoulder injury.I find it as mysterious as it is obnoxious.this is another legit reason to pass on him in the second, but I'd overlook it if you're picking in the 5th or 6th.

 

[duaneok66]

he's signed through this year and next year, and his cap figure is a little shy of $2m, I believe.

thx, miguel! http://www.patscap.com/

I think there's some truth in this thread, but also a lot of exaggeration and misinformation.

a couple years ago some guy in my league took him in the second, I think it was, and I laughed at him --- not so much because I hated maroney, but because of the value.

after a few games, he then tried to trade maroney to me at some premium price, and I still had no interest because he carries a lot of legit negatives.

so, I'm telling you all this not because I want to derail about my league, but to show that I actually had a negative opinion on maroney at one point --- but I think the pendulum has swung all the way back to where he looks like a good late rounder because of the value of the pick.

he actually has great upside, and while he certainly has an injury history, does that mean I have a trend off those limited data points?

I can find a lot of guys in the league that have a few injuries --- does that doom them to further injury?

to say he's not a 'goalline back' is a bit of an exaggeration, as he stands to have quite a few more opportunities than the bulk of nfl backs just because of that offense.

to say he's rbbc could also be a little misleading, while maybe technically true, and to say new england can't, or won't, run the ball is just an outright crock.

IF he's healthy, and he should be, he figures to start, get plenty enough carries to put up fantasy points, and have a ton more shots at the end zone than most other backs in football --- all for a late round pick.

I'm very surprised to hear all of this from you. In particular, I don't understand this line: "...to say he's rbbc could also be a little misleading..." Um, how so? This team has Fred Taylor (the most accomplished RB on the team), Sammy Morris (who has looked better than Maroney since he joined the team), and Kevin Faulk (who's pretty much a lock as the 3rd down back).How is it "misleading" to call that a RBBC?

please don't argue with Maroney owners . . . they aren't biased . . ..