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marques colston listed as wr, te on yahoo (1 Viewer)
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Couch Potato
Footballguy
It just shows the ignorance of Yahoo. Colston has been playing as a WR, not a TE, since the first mini-camp. All this does is give people a chance to exploit the rules, so shame on Yahoo.
tribecalledjeff
Footballguy
I currently tier the top TEs like this:
Gates
Gonzo
Shockey
Heap
Winslow
Watson
Crumpler
Witten
LJ Smith
etc.
I think his absolute floor is tier 3 (TE 6-7). How many WR2 don't put up at least 50-600-4? (Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I can't imagine it's that many. He is a better red zone target than most WR2 also, so if anything I think those numbers are underestimating his TD potential.)
Right now I see him around 55-650-6, which is 156 points in a ppr, right in tier 2 (TE 2-5).
I think what some of us are looking for is if he is good enough to count on the whole year, allowing us to trade the top line TE that we drafted for other value. At this point, I'm very strongly leaning yes. Very curious to hear other thoughts, though.
Gates
Gonzo
Shockey
Heap
Winslow
Watson
Crumpler
Witten
LJ Smith
etc.
I think his absolute floor is tier 3 (TE 6-7). How many WR2 don't put up at least 50-600-4? (Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I can't imagine it's that many. He is a better red zone target than most WR2 also, so if anything I think those numbers are underestimating his TD potential.)
Right now I see him around 55-650-6, which is 156 points in a ppr, right in tier 2 (TE 2-5).
I think what some of us are looking for is if he is good enough to count on the whole year, allowing us to trade the top line TE that we drafted for other value. At this point, I'm very strongly leaning yes. Very curious to hear other thoughts, though.
LawFitz
Footballguy
Keep one thing in mind fellas before you go off trading away Gates - Yahoo may correct this later and switch him back to just a WR.
I recall a few years ago when Teyo Johnson was a rookie, he was listed as WR/TE, then changed to just TE a few weeks into the season when Yahoo figured it out.
I recall a few years ago when Teyo Johnson was a rookie, he was listed as WR/TE, then changed to just TE a few weeks into the season when Yahoo figured it out.
tribecalledjeff
Footballguy
from Yahoo! rules. This thought/fear also occured to me, so I had already checked this out. I remember from basketball last season also that they would add position eligibilities but never take them away.
Couch Potato
Footballguy
Yes, that's how it is. Though it was bonehead of them to list him as a TE since there was sufficient info at the time they put their listings out to do it right, there's no way they now could compound the error by screwing with people's rosters once drafts have taken place. I don't fault folks for taking advantage of the loophole, just that the loophole exists when it wasn't necessary.
LawFitz
Footballguy
Is it just me or does these sentences seem a bit contradictory? What happens if Yahoo decides next week that Colston's "primary" position has changed to WR?Not that I don't believe you, I just distinctly remember Teyo's similar situation, though that was a few years ago now and Yahoo may have different regulations.
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tribecalledjeff
Footballguy
I believe that happened to Teyo, but that was a few years back. I don't think those sentences are contradictory - updates to position = an added position. Either way, let's get this back on track - I'm more interested in actually discussing Colston than debating his eligibility.
Winning IS Everything
Footballguy
My league uses statsworld.com and he is listed as a TE there as well. If he is sure to stay that way I may drop Troupe for him.
Couch Potato
Footballguy
I don't know about Teyo a few years back or what the rules were then, but the way I understand the current rules, it means that once a player has been listed to be eligible at a position, that cannot be taken away (that makes sense because you rely on that when structuring your roster during a draft and it would be wrong to have something yanked away). However, "In-season updates to position eligibility are made" refers to adding positions for a player.For example, if Michael Robinson SF is currently listed as just a RB but somehow in week 9 he becomes the starting QB, he'd be listed by Yahoo as QB/RB instead of just RB. Those who drafted him as RB wouldn't have that taken away.
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Biabreakable
Footballguy
8 targets for Colston in week 1.
Not bad even if your using him as a Wr.
Cleveland secondary had a lot of injuries though. I want to see what this young guy can do against a decent pass defense.
Bush still had more targets in the passing game than anyone. Yikes.
Not bad even if your using him as a Wr.
Cleveland secondary had a lot of injuries though. I want to see what this young guy can do against a decent pass defense.
Bush still had more targets in the passing game than anyone. Yikes.
I would rank him as a top 12-15 TE - somewhere around guys like Heath Miller and Ben Troupe.
edit to add: It reflects badly on these sites that they can't get this right.
edit to add: It reflects badly on these sites that they can't get this right.
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I picked him up at the end of last week but sat him in favor of Cooley. This week I'll reverse that and possibly drop Cooley. I'd put him at #5 or #6 TE with a chance to move higher if he develops a good rapport with Brees and/or Horn doesn't start getting more of the looks.
tribecalledjeff
Footballguy
12-15 seems awfully low - what do you project his numbers to be? that would be around 50-500-4. given his 8 targets this last week including 2 red zone targets, and the fact that he's the unquestioned WR2, i think that is his ABSOLUTE floor and have him a decent amount higher than that. Dodds currently has him at WR49 in the top 200 foward, which is around 60-650-5. I think this is pretty accurate. Maybe it's just wishful thinking, though
I still wouldnt rank him ahead of:Gates, Gonzo, Shockey, Heap, Watson, Crumpler, LJSmith, Witten, McMichael, Cooley, and Winslow. That's 11 guys, hence TE12.I can see 60-650-5 for him, but the rookie wall looms later in the season, and those guys I listed above have already proven that 60-650 is well within their reach (except for Watson and Winslow, and it's clear that's where they are headed), while Colston hasn't.12-15 seems awfully low - what do you project his numbers to be? that would be around 50-500-4. given his 8 targets this last week including 2 red zone targets, and the fact that he's the unquestioned WR2, i think that is his ABSOLUTE floor and have him a decent amount higher than that. Dodds currently has him at WR49 in the top 200 foward, which is around 60-650-5. I think this is pretty accurate. Maybe it's just wishful thinking, though
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tribecalledjeff
Footballguy
Fair enough. I was comfortable enough with him that I traded Heap, leaving me Colston and Clark. I see good things for the kid. We'll see.I still wouldnt rank him ahead of:Gates, Gonzo, Shockey, Heap, Watson, Crumpler, LJSmith, Witten, McMichael, Cooley, and Winslow. That's 11 guys, hence TE12.I can see 60-650-5 for him, but the rookie wall looms later in the season, and those guys I listed above have already proven that 60-650 is well within their reach (except for Watson and Winslow, and it's clear that's where they are headed), while Colston hasn't.12-15 seems awfully low - what do you project his numbers to be? that would be around 50-500-4. given his 8 targets this last week including 2 red zone targets, and the fact that he's the unquestioned WR2, i think that is his ABSOLUTE floor and have him a decent amount higher than that. Dodds currently has him at WR49 in the top 200 foward, which is around 60-650-5. I think this is pretty accurate. Maybe it's just wishful thinking, though
IGKYA!!!
Footballguy
Can they do this mid-week after some teams picked him up?
Marc Levin
Hangs out with Oscar Zeta Acosta
I'm exploiting it.My sole TE in my lone Y! league (autodrafted - of course - like I'm gonna spend time on a Y! league) is Cooley - been WAY down on him forever.Just p/u Colston, and he's gonna be my starting TE from here on out.
Marc Levin
Hangs out with Oscar Zeta Acosta
They apparently will add eligibility but not remove it, thus he's listed as a WR/TE in Y!I think Cooley had this too as a HB/TE
semaj33
bloodwashed
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