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Marquise Goodwin, WR Buffalo (1 Viewer)

GroveDiesel

Footballguy
This guy could be a great dynasty pickup or late round redraft flyer. He's the #4 WR right now but could end up seeing the field a lot if he keeps playing like he's played in camp. Every single day I read the camp reports from that day and every single day he has at least one long TD and has had multiple tough catches he's made. He's also reportedly a tenacious downfield blocker.

Yesterday the Bills ran an intrasquad scrimmage and afterwards Marrone specifically mentioned that they've been pleasantly surprised with how great Goodwin's hands are. With Olympic level speed and the hands he's displayed, this kid is going to see playing time sooner rather than later.

I know that Rogers is the sexy "sneaky" Buffalo WR pick, but I like Goodwin over Rogers at this point by quite a bit. Goodwin could easily be Mike Wallace with heart and better hands. I like TJ Graham, but I think Goodwin will replace Graham by the end of the season. Stevie, Woods and Goodwin will be the starting 3 WRs by the end of the year IMO. And when the Bills split Spiller out wide, there won't be a team in the league that can handle all that speed.

 

Faust

MVP
Rotoworld:

Bills OC Nathaniel Hackett says rookie deep-threat Marquise Goodwin has "just been awesome" in camp.
"I think what he’s done out here up to this point, I don’t think anybody expected," Hackett said. Per in-house reporter Chris Brown, Goodwin has "made plays consistently, (several) of the big play variety." Goodwin's Olympic speed always figured to turn heads in practice, but he struggled for consistency at Texas. The preseason looms as a large test.


Source: buffalobills.com
 

MDSkinner

Footballguy
It will be interesting to see how this plays out in the preseason. With Wood, Goodwin and Rogers all three rookies trying to get playing time, you just never know.

 

KCitons

Footballguy
Don't forget TJ Graham, I keep hearing reports that he is having a good camp.

Could there be too many mouths to feed in Buffalo this season? Been a long while since anyone has said that.

 

finito

Footballguy
Don't forget TJ Graham, I keep hearing reports that he is having a good camp.

Could there be too many mouths to feed in Buffalo this season? Been a long while since anyone has said that.
Seems like way too many if reports from camp are true and just about *everyone* is standing out. I still like Woods a lot, but if everyone else is playing as well as advertised, it'll be hard to see who will have any fantasy value.

 

nirad3

Footballguy
I saw a lot of this guy during my years in Austin. He's the real deal. Some (or heck, maybe "most") of these "track guys that play some football" never pan out.

This guy is a FOOTBALL PLAYER that just happens to have wicked downfield speed.

With any QB consistency at UT, he would have had much better stats.

I don't think he'll ever be an NFL team's #1 WR, but he'll certainly have an opportunity to put up fantasy stats ... maybe as soon as this year.

 
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GroveDiesel

Footballguy
It will be interesting to see how this plays out in the preseason. With Wood, Goodwin and Rogers all three rookies trying to get playing time, you just never know.
If Rogers makes the team it's only because he would be more likely to get snagged off of the practice team than Hagan because Hagan has outplayed him. I doubt Rogers gets much playing time this year.

 

Grigs Allmoon

Footballguy
Could there be too many mouths to feed in Buffalo this season? Been a long while since anyone has said that.
Not only are there a lot of WRs that could see action, but you would have to believe this will be a run-first offense. I can't say I'm too eager to grab any of them in redrafts. I think we're looking at dynasty fliers with everyone but Stevie, who might be a low end starter. Woods might be rosterable in PPR, I suppose...

 

Faust

MVP
Rotoworld:

WGR 550 Buffalo calls rookie WR Marquise Goodwin getting free for long receptions a "daily occurrence" at Bills practice.
Beat writer Joe Buscaglia goes as far as to call Goodwin "flourishing." Goodwin is already one of the fastest players in the NFL, but caught just 120 passes in four years at Texas. He'll serve as a situational deep threat, but will likely make his greatest rookie contributions on special teams.


Source: WGR 550 Buffalo
 

GroveDiesel

Footballguy
Goodwin, Good luck

- It seems like a daily occurrence at Bills camp now, but Marquis Goodwin got loose for another long completion in Tuesday's practice. This time, the Bills attempted to disguise their coverage by putting safety Aaron Williams over Goodwin. The defensive player ran back with him for about 8 yards and then released him to the back defender on the play, which this time was Crezdon Butler. The cornerback was a quarter of a second late in reacting to Goodwin being sent on a fly route, and that's all the Olympic athlete needed. Goodwin burned down the middle of the field and brought in a perfectly thrown ball from Kevin Kolb for a touchdown. He also contributed a pair of intermediate receptions early on in practice. The rookie wideout is getting more and more time on the field with injuries to Stevie Johnson and T.J. Graham, and he's flourishing.
http://www.wgr550.com/pages/17052735.php?contentType=4&contentId=13596710

I'm seriously thinking this guy could be Big Time. I'm not sure there's a DB in the league that can cover him deep. And you can't jam him at the line because he's strong too, so if you don't knock him down, he's by you for a TD too.

I think most experts and fantasy guys are way underestimating the WR talent on this team. If the QB can get them the ball, they're going to put up some big numbers. Stevie, Woods, Goodwin and Graham are going to be giving defensive coordinators nightmares.

Also, from Daniel Jeremiah:

From touch to endzone: L. Blount 12.91 seconds on his 51 yard TD. M. Goodwin 13.36 seconds on his 107 yard KOR TD.

 
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GroveDiesel

Footballguy
Goodwin should see extended time tonight with both Johnson and Graham out. Starters will probably be Woods, Goodwin and my bet is either Smith or Hogan as the #3 WR tonight.

It's a great chance for him to work with and against the 1s and probably run more combinations of routes than he has been. Great opportunity for the kid to earn more playing time.

 

Faust

MVP
Great recap of how well he did at the Senior Bowl and hinting at the questions surrounding how he was underutilized at Texas under Bryan Harsin:

Marquise Goodwin continues assault on draft boards at Senior Bowl

Excerpts:

Daniel Jeremiah @MoveTheSticks

Every time I watch Texas WR Marquise Goodwin take a rep, I think of spaceballs. "Prepare ship for ludicrous speed." #SeniorBowl
Matt Miller @nfldraftscout

If only Marquise Goodwin was used like Tavon Austin.
Matt Miller @nfldraftscout

Marquise Goodwin's stock will be all over the place, team-to-team, but I'd grab him in Rd 2. That athleticism can't be coached.
 
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GroveDiesel

Footballguy
Great recap of how well he did at the Senior Bowl and hinting at the questions surrounding how he was underutilized at Texas under Bryan Harsin:

Marquise Goodwin continues assault on draft boards at Senior Bowl

Excerpts:

Daniel Jeremiah @MoveTheSticks

Every time I watch Texas WR Marquise Goodwin take a rep, I think of spaceballs. "Prepare ship for ludicrous speed." #SeniorBowl
Matt Miller @nfldraftscout

If only Marquise Goodwin was used like Tavon Austin.
Matt Miller @nfldraftscout

Marquise Goodwin's stock will be all over the place, team-to-team, but I'd grab him in Rd 2. That athleticism can't be coached.
What I love is that it turns out Goodwin is more than speed and explosiveness. He has good hands and is extremely strong for his size. If you're fast but weak, DBs will just jam you at the line. Not many guys are going to be strong enough to jam Goodwin.

His only two negatives at this point are his height and he needs to learn to run routes a little better. I think the route running will come. His height is what it is. He is a good leaper and does a decent job high pointing the ball, but he'll never be a big red zone threat other than on quick slants like Welker.

In 2 or 3 years, I could see Woods and Goodwin being the #1 and #2 in Buffalo and terrorizing defenses.

 

JFS171

Footballguy
He reminds me a little bit of Steve Smith. Undersized guy that is super quick, and super fast. Strong for his size, and dynamic in the return game.

Smitty started the same way for Carolina, and then made himself impossible to take off the field. Liking Goodwin at his current price in dynasty. You can't coach that kind of speed and athleticism.

 

Faust

MVP
Rotoworld:

Bills WR Marquise Goodwin (broken hand) has resumed practicing.
Goodwin has gotten in two limited sessions this week, suggesting he could return to full practice next week. He almost certainly won't play Thursday against the Browns, but could be eyeing a Week 6 return against the Bengals. The rookie deep threat was hurt in Week 1, and fumbled away his lone reception.

Source: ESPN.com
 

rickyg

Footballguy
I think that Goodwin has been quietly very impressive thus far in limited action. He's already caught one long td and last week he had another that was called back by penalty I believe. He's already showing that he is better at the nfl level (at least for rt now) than tavon Austin, and he has a better OC and better qb to work with.

He might just be the poor mans tavon Austin as described. Or tavon Austin might be the wannabe marquise Goodwin??

What does everyone think about this kid in dynasty? Can he be a more complete wr than a situational deep threat?

 

GoodLloydHaveMercy

Footballguy
I'm a believer and I'm surprised there hasn't been a little more buzz... EVERYTIME i watch him on film he pops off the screen... Very explosive and I think the comparison to Steve smith is a good one... Not sure any little guy will be as strong in the air as Steve smith has been over his career but I see a similar style of play and I believe in dynasty he is a great stash especially in return yardage leagues

 

smapdi

Footballguy
I love the promise of this kid. I really wish his season wasn't so hampered by injury so far. He has all the speed you could ever want: fastest WR at the combine and supposedly ran a sub 4.20 forty at Texas. That's not embellishing it.. he was an actual Olympic athlete for Team USA at London. Not a wanna be qualifier- he was there representing the US of A in the long jump. If he would have posted his qualifying jump (to make Team USA), he would have walked away with the gold medal. He is an insane athlete. He also isn't just some wanna be track guy that thinks he can play football; he's just the opposite: a football guy who was fast enough to dominate in track.

Tavon Austin is a pretty fair comparison body/athleticism wise. He certainly didn't put up Austin's numbers at Texas but he was terribly underused. He is one hell of a kick returner as he showed in preseason (107 yard TD). He can make an immediate impact in that area. I think he could be one hell of a bubble screen guy as well once he settles in to the NFL. He also can use that 4.30 speed to beat pretty much any DB down the field on a fly route. He isn't some delicate flower track guy that goes down on the slightest touch either. He can break tackles and make people miss.

I can't wait to see what he can do the 2nd half of the season now that he is healthy. I feel like him and Manuel could really hit it off once EJ makes it back from the knee injury: Manuel has the arm and Goodwin has the legs to beat defenses deep.

 
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smapdi

Footballguy
Talk about good timing. 59 yard TD against KC in the 1st.

He absolutely burnt the CB and SS. Both had good coverage but Goodwin was just too fast. The saftey made a bee line for him but Goodwin put on after burners and flew by both of them.

Its good to see him healthy and making plays

 

smapdi

Footballguy
Nice! This kid looks legit. Just wanna see him more involved than just a few deep balls a game.
Same here. Its going to take a little time for that. He was terribly under used at Texas and has missed most of this year with an injury. The go route is the simplest play for them to run with him & the most effective at the moment.

He could be a menance on quick slants underneath or drag routes across the field. Throw in some bubble screens to get him in space as well. Once he has the ball and a hint of day light he is gone. That 4.20 speed is too hot to handle, even for CBs

 

ninogaggi

Footballguy
I'm 7-3 in a 12 teamer with deep benches and not liking my WR situation this week. Am I crazy for considering picking Goodwin up and flexing him as a one week flier, or possibly more?

He'll be starting with both Stevie & Woods out and he's flashed some potential in spots this season. All I know about him from highlights and limited research is that the kid can fly.

Any body else thinking he might be a sneaky pick up and play? Buffalo homers willing to share any helpful info on him/his situation would be greatly appreciated.

 

Onions

Footballguy
Nice performance for Goodwin in his first career start (6-81 with TD rec and 1-17 rushing). Looked pretty impressive out there.

 

FinHead

Footballguy
In our PPR keeper league, I drafted Goodwin but let him go. Now Goodwin and Woods are both available; which is the better pickup?

 

Bills_Fan11

Footballguy
Remember when Losman would drop back and the only time you thought something good might happen was when he chucked it deep to Evans who was always being the DB? That's sort of where I'm at with this offense and Goodwin now. Three big TDs with three different QBs vs thee good defenses; not bad.

 
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Sabertooth

Footballguy
Maybe. He's a rookie so he will be inconsistent. That said I think he could be a desean jackson type of guy in a year or two.

 

Rushmore

Footballguy
How would you compare Goodwin's value to Wood's? I know they provide different skill-sets. Both have looked good when given opportunity (and healthy), however Woods seemed most effective while Manuel was starting.

 

mr roboto

Footballguy
If they both develop I think they compliment one another. Woods is a polished all-around WR while Goodwin is the deep threat. Woods is prob higher in ppr and Goodwin in standard (again, assuming they develop up to potential).

 

Ghost Rider

Footballguy
I've had my eye on this guy all season, but never really had room to stash him, and now everyone will be all over him. Bah.

 

LawFitz

Footballguy
I've had my eye on this guy all season, but never really had room to stash him, and now everyone will be all over him. Bah.
It's not too late. He's on bye next week, so a lot of people may pass on him. And of course, he could sit on your squad the next two weeks then doughnut you as a reward when he comes back.

 

buck naked

Footballguy
Nice performance for Goodwin in his first career start (6-81 with TD rec and 1-17 rushing). Looked pretty impressive out there.
Part of it was just opportunity with the top 2 WR's out. Both Johnson and Woods are better possession WR's than Goodwin, who is a little small to be a high reception guy.

But, the speed he showed on his TD catch is unteachable. Wow, that was fast. If he can develop his skills and work hard the next couple of years, he could be a nice consistent deep threat.

 

GroveDiesel

Footballguy
I'd be shocked if Goodwin isn't a starter over Graham by next year. Graham has been horribly inconsistent all year while Goodwin has made play after play. He's also a much better blocker than Graham.

Woods is probably a guy that will be more consistent but not put up elite numbers on any week. Goodwin could put up a 0-2 point performance pretty easily but also has the ability to put up a 5 reception, 140 yard 2 TD game pretty easily. In fact, he let a second long TD got through his hands yesterday (one of the only balls I've seen him drop this year)

 

DropKick

Footballguy
How do the Buffalo faithful see the WR position shaking out during FF play-offs. Should Johnson, Woods, etc. be healthy by then?

 

nastynate

Footballguy
Think Goodwin would make a nice #3, but I'm not sure he's a guy that'll start on the outside over woods or johnson anytime soon.

Crazy watch him separate from Cromartie like he did -- Cro looked like he was slow jogging.

 

smapdi

Footballguy
I'm all but certain that if every comes back fully healthy (big IF - Johnson is known for nagging groin injuries), Goodwin will take over the 3rd WR spot. They've been saying all year how they want Stevie in the slot so I can see Goodwin lined up outside.

He can break one off at any point. Especially due to the Bills commitment to run game. He's just so fast that CB's cannot stay with him.

 

SaintsInDome2006

Footballguy
I'm all but certain that if every comes back fully healthy (big IF - Johnson is known for nagging groin injuries), Goodwin will take over the 3rd WR spot. They've been saying all year how they want Stevie in the slot so I can see Goodwin lined up outside.

He can break one off at any point. Especially due to the Bills commitment to run game. He's just so fast that CB's cannot stay with him.
I thought he looked pretty good vs the Saints but the difference was in Lewis not being able to get him the ball.

 

Gvindy

Footballguy
Doesn't Marrone have a history of using WR/RB in kind of a Percy Harvin type role? I haven't watched the games, has he been lined up in the back field at all, or come over from the slot on a reverse yet? I think that is the next step to use his athleticism...

 

Resident A

Footballguy
I'm a Bills fanatic, and here're my take:

Stevie Johnson is still the #1 target, and will be the slot WR when everyone is healthy. Johnson isn't real fast, but may have the best "moves" of any WR in the NFL, and is not going anywhere soon.

Robert Woods is the top outside WR, and will be taking over the #1 target label from SJ13, probably by end of next year IMO. Woods has Reggie Wayne type WR1 potential. When he comes back healthy after the bye and has Manual back at QB, he'll start to show it again.

TJ Graham is technically a starter opposite Woods on the outside (in 3WR sets), but he has no fantasy value. He has shown almost nothing now in 2 years, and will likely be out of football in a year or 2.

Goodwin is explosive & can catch, but is not a natural WR. I see him being like a Dante Hall or Hester when they played WR, but with a little more upside. He should replace Graham next year or sooner, but I don't think he'll be higher than the 3rd option anytime soon.

In dynasty, Woods is far more valuable than Goodwin.

 

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